[06:34] <dpm> good morning
[06:44] <ajmitch> morning dpm
[06:44] <dpm> hey ajmitch, how's it going?
[06:45] <ajmitch> good, just in a meeting for organising kiwi pycon at the moment :)
[06:46] <ajmitch> & dreading the oncoming rush of submissions to review through myapps with this app showdown :)
[06:46] <ajmitch> it looks like there's a decent amount of interest in the competition
[07:06] <dholbach> good morning
[07:22] <ajmitch> hi dholbach
[07:22] <dholbach> hey ajmitch
[07:22] <dholbach> how are you doing?
[07:22] <ajmitch> good, how are you? :)
[07:22] <dholbach> I might need another espresso to fully wake up, but life's good :)
[07:23] <ajmitch> excellent :)
[07:23]  * ajmitch is at a kiwi pycon planning meeting, almost done
[07:24] <dholbach> cool
[07:24] <dholbach> when is the next ARB meeting?
[07:24] <ajmitch> last friday of the month
[07:24] <ajmitch> so the 29th
[07:24] <ajmitch> hopefully we get people showing up
[07:26] <dholbach> which time?
[07:26] <ajmitch> let me check, but iirc it's 21:00 UTC
[07:27] <ajmitch> are you planning to show up, or try & drag others along?
[07:28] <dholbach> 21UTC is a nightmare on a friday :)
[07:28] <dholbach> I'd love to attend, but I guess I'll resort to reading the logs
[07:28] <ajmitch> yeah it's better for me than 18:00 UTC, which was 6AM saturday morning
[07:29] <dholbach> yeah, that's totally understandable
[07:29] <ajmitch> we've had 3, maybe 4 people showing up
[07:29]  * ajmitch has to head out now, but will talk to you later on
[07:29] <dholbach> rock on!
[07:43] <dpm> hi ajmitch, sorry, I god sidetracked. Yeah, apart from the work that it will require, I'm really looking forward to more app submissions for the contest :) Them being in PPAs should make it easier to review them
[09:46]  * ajmitch understands getting sidetracked all too well :)
[09:47] <dpm> :)
[09:48] <ajmitch> Swap:  9149436k total,  9149436k used,        0k free,    24012k cached
[09:48] <ajmitch> oops
[10:11] <ajmitch> dpm: you've got some experience with translations - how do you think we should handle the packages that we get that aren't in english? It doesn't quite seem right to have to make people submit their descriptions & everything in english so that we can review the app
[10:11] <malin> could some please review this app soon? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/782/
[10:12] <ajmitch> malin: yes, it's on the list to look at
[10:12] <malin> ajmitch: thanx :)
[10:13]  * ajmitch took a look over it earlier today but hasn't checked out much further than that
[10:14] <malin> ah :)
[10:14] <ajmitch> as in, I built it, looked at where the files went, checked debian/copyright, but haven't installed & tested :)
[10:14] <dpm> ajmitch, I would still require them to submit the description and info in English. They cannot expect that a team of volunteers know every single language, so I'd suggest sticking to English as the common ground. Ideally, what they should do is to make their app translatable, so that it can be used in their language, English, and any other
[10:17]  * ajmitch seems to be seeing more & more in other languages 
[10:35] <dholbach> thanks ajmitch
[10:38] <ajmitch> dholbach: np
[10:39] <dholbach> :)
[10:39] <ajmitch> so many more in the queue to look at...
[10:39] <dholbach> once I've taken care of a few other things, I'll grab another one of the low-hanging fruit list
[10:40] <ajmitch> ok
[10:40] <ajmitch> there were a couple that I saw which looked mostly ok, installing under /opt/extras.ubuntu.com
[10:41] <ajmitch> hivemind & dino were a couple that should be almost there
[10:44] <ajmitch> the sshsearch lens update for precise got overlooked somehow, there was a call for votes on the list last month & it got no further
[10:44]  * ajmitch just pinged the list about that one
[10:49] <dholbach> oopsie, just fixed a bug in the apps-brancher and re-running it again
[10:49] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-app-reviews should have some more branches in a bit
[10:50] <dholbach> maybe we should have another discussion on the ML to see how useful it is and how we can improve it to do what we want
[10:51] <ajmitch> I have to confess I haven't been using it that much, because I tend to just go to the myapps submission
[10:52]  * dholbach nods
[10:52] <ajmitch> it's still useful to have a branch, but most of the ones I've been looking at recently have an existing branch, or I've just done the initial download, look over & build from the source package
[10:52]  * ajmitch hasn't been doing much packaging touchups where it's more useful to have the history
[10:52] <dholbach> it'd be great if we could get it to the point where it knows exactly what to grab
[10:53] <dholbach> and if it'd show a bit cleverer kind of dashboard of what worked and what didn't
[10:53] <ajmitch> & to link it from the submission rather than remembering where to go for the branch
[10:55] <dholbach> yep
[10:56] <dholbach> and since we're in the brainstorming pie-in-the-sky department already - to have a Trello-like overview board would be awesome too
[13:32] <highvoltage> ajmitch: the unity vm lens and the ssh search lens... I think I voted +1 on both but can't remember if it was a previous iteration of it
[13:32] <highvoltage> ajmitch: what should I do?
[13:49] <dholbach> highvoltage, I just know about the vm lens - you voted +1 for it when there were still some problems - maybe you just follow up and say "+1 again" if you're happy with it
[13:50] <highvoltage> ok
[13:51] <highvoltage> dholbach: sorry for not spotting those namespace things before, I knew about them but didn't think of it with the last review
[13:51] <dholbach> highvoltage, don't worry - I also learnt something new :)
[13:51] <highvoltage> I'll make a lens review checklist :)
[13:51] <dholbach> I hope one day we can codify those checklists into tools, so we're less prone to run into these problems
[13:52] <highvoltage> I don't know how well lintian works and if it supports plugins, but I guess it would be nice if there were a way for lintian to just do it
[13:53] <highvoltage> wow that sentence was horrible
[13:53] <dholbach> no, it was quite understandable :)
[13:53] <highvoltage> I meant, "I don't unsterstand much of how lintian works..."
[19:18] <ajmitch> highvoltage: I was just going off what I saw in the mailing list, I only saw 2 votes for sshsearch lens, and had the author of it asking where it was at yesterday
[19:50] <highvoltage> ajmitch: k