[00:10] <jono> pleia2, little disappointed that Ubuntu Accomplishments 0.2 was not included in the UWN
[00:10] <jono> it was quite a big release
[00:11] <jono> no biggie though
[00:11] <pleia2> jono: sorry, can you let us know when there are important ones? We try to include them every week but on weeks like this when the planet section is already quite long we have to drop some :(
[00:12] <jono> pleia2, I understand, I get not including all the development updates ones I did, I was just a bit surprised that a new release blog entry was not included...but like i say, no biggie
[00:12] <pleia2> there are accomplishments posts most week, so I don't really know which are the important ones
[00:12] <pleia2> s/most week/most weeks
[00:13] <pleia2> but yeah, just let us know and we'll try to do a better job :)
[00:17] <jono> pleia2, oh, don't see this as anything of a big deal :-)
[00:17] <jono> pleia2, you folks do an incredible job with UWN
[00:18] <jono> I am just a publicity addict, lol
[00:18] <paultag> jono: they are on a wiki ;)
[00:18] <jono> paultag, I know, but I don't want to go and invade somebody else's space
[00:18] <paultag> pushing up a new item on the next week's page would be well recieved, I think :)
[00:18] <jono> mhall119, hey, I just did a special tutorial for how to build the web browser
[00:18] <jono> paultag, cool
[00:18] <pleia2> paultag: actually, we use a google doc for "in progress" stuff
[00:19] <paultag> pleia2: when did that happen, man, I've been away for a while
[00:19] <pleia2> but anyone can always swing by #ubuntu-news to say "this is important, please include" or post to ubuntu-news-team@lists.ubuntu.com
[00:19] <pleia2> paultag: since a lot of people can't log into the wiki :\
[00:19] <jono> paultag, so you are a prolific programmer, planning on writing an app for the contest?
[00:19] <paultag> jono: heh, I'm a bit busy, but I'll be watching to see what goes on :)
[00:19] <jono> cool :-)
[00:19] <jono> nice to see people interested in writing apps
[00:19] <pleia2> we tried using etherpads too, but they tended to be too unreliable (I don't love using the google doc, but here we are)
[00:19] <paultag> I'm waiting for someone to write me my lens idea
[00:20] <paultag> but alas, no one got into it
[00:20] <bkerensa> paultag: working on lots of RC bugs in Debian ;)
[00:20] <bkerensa> ?
[00:20] <paultag> bkerensa: that's right
[00:20] <bkerensa> nice ;)
[00:20] <paultag> it's getting chilly over in Debian
[00:20] <paultag> almost time for a freeze
[00:20] <bkerensa> indeed... we had a BSP on Saturday
[00:20] <bkerensa> Focused on RC's that will benefit Ubuntu
[00:21] <paultag> any RC will benefit Ubuntu
[00:21] <bkerensa> :P not if we dont use the package? :P
[00:21] <paultag> which packages don't get sunk?
[00:21] <paultag> besides the handful of blacklisted packages
[00:22] <pleia2> bkerensa: actually, the sooner all the RCs get fixed, the shorter the freeze and ubuntu can pull fresh packages again :)
[00:22] <pleia2> so fix ALL the RCs!
[00:22] <paultag> pleia2++
[00:22] <bkerensa> ;p
[00:22] <pleia2> bkerensa: online bsp or real life with awesome pics? :)
[00:23] <bkerensa> pleia2: irl... but I didnt take any pics... photo taking does not seem to be a popular thing ;)
[00:23] <pleia2> aw
[00:24] <paultag> blah
[00:24] <bkerensa> wait.. I do have one but it was a horrible panoramic
[00:24] <bkerensa> :D
[00:24] <paultag> even in the middle of Ohio we took photos :)
[00:24] <bkerensa> we did have 20+ people though
[00:24] <pleia2> nice
[00:24] <bkerensa> http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=wheezy_and_sid&fnewer=&fnewerval=7&rc=1 <-- needs love
[00:24] <bkerensa> and bagels!
[00:25] <bkerensa> paultag: you going to Nicaragua?
[00:25] <paultag> bkerensa: NACK. I'm busy with work. I might go to DC13, though.
[00:42] <bkerensa> pleia2: was your con good?
[00:48] <pleia2> bkerensa: very good :)
[00:49] <pleia2> and intimidating, don knuth, vint cerf, ken thompson and lots of other major people in one room!
[00:50] <bkerensa> pleia2: did you get to meet vint?
[00:50] <pleia2> the R S and A of RSA were all there too, it was like crypto bingo!
[00:50] <bkerensa> heh
[00:50] <pleia2> no, but my fiance works with him from time to time so there will be a more appropriate meeting opportunity at some point
[00:50] <bkerensa> nice
[00:51] <bkerensa> ACM is a good org
[00:51] <pleia2> yeah
[00:52] <pleia2> quite academic for a poor uneducated sap like me, but I do ok :)
[00:56] <bkerensa> The local ACM chapter wanted me to do a talk on Ubuntu a few months back but scheduling conflicts =/
[00:56] <pleia2> aw
[00:57] <bkerensa> I also need to hit up toastmasters some :P
[00:59] <pleia2> I just scheduled my next Ubuntu talk for the Intro to Linux class at ITT Tech
[00:59] <pleia2> they are always a fun group to talk to
[01:00] <pleia2> very practical :)
[06:34] <dpm> good morning all
[06:37] <bkerensa> morning
[06:42] <hobgoblin> morning
[06:43] <nigelb> *groan*
[06:44] <dpm> morning bkerensa, hobgoblin and nigelb :)
[07:06] <dholbach> good morning
[07:11] <nigelb> dholbach: Morning! What phone did you eventually get?
[07:11] <dholbach> nigelb, an old school phone
[07:12] <dholbach> a Nokia C2 something
[07:12] <nigelb> Awesome :)
[07:12] <nigelb> I have a Sony Ericsson old school phone too.
[07:12] <nigelb> The only "fancy" thing it does is radio
[07:12] <dholbach> it did what my old phone did and if I'm clever enough to let it get as wet as the old phone I'm sure it'll survive :)
[07:12] <nigelb> heh
[07:13] <dholbach> on the weekend we had a party, where we camped outside Berlin at a lake - and I assume the phone got wet theree
[07:13] <nigelb> oh fun.
[07:13] <hobgoblin> sounds good
[07:13] <nigelb> and where did all the san in your apartment come from?
[07:13] <dholbach> it was absolutely awesome
[07:13] <nigelb> *sand
[07:15] <dholbach> from the shore of the lake - we camped directly at the lake, barbecued there, I DJed for a couple of hours and those of us who weren't too tired watched the sun go up over the lake
[07:16] <dholbach> if it wasn't for a bit of organisation, I could do this every weekend :)
[07:16] <hobgoblin> I used to do similar every weekend without organisation ;)
[07:17] <nigelb> heh
[07:17] <nigelb> where'd you get the power for your DJ stuff?
[07:17] <hobgoblin> 20km extension lead nigelb :p
[07:17] <nigelb> hahaha
[07:18] <dholbach> it was part of a larger camp site, so we got power from them - I think the extension cord was like 25m or something :)
[07:21] <hobgoblin> cheat :)
[07:25] <czajkowski> morning
[07:26] <hobgoblin> morning czajkowski
[07:26] <dholbach> hobgoblin, what did you want me to say? "We generated our own power!"? :-P
[07:26] <hobgoblin> absolutely :D
[07:27] <nigelb> I kinda hoped you guys had a whiskey-powered generator or something :P
[07:27] <hobgoblin> not me - we just had whisky
[07:28] <dholbach> there was a bit of whiskey, luckily not too much
[07:31] <bkerensa> :D
[07:31] <nigelb> "not to much whiskey" <-- this is never lucky
[07:34] <hobgoblin> depends nigelb ;)
[07:34] <nigelb> heh
[08:00] <czajkowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1014896 ouchies
[08:00] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1014896 in launchpad "Person:EntryResource:getMembersByStatus timeouts" [Critical,Triaged]
[08:03] <AlanBell> jono is breaking launchpad
[08:03] <czajkowski> with style :)
[09:58] <daker> Michael Dell in Casablanca, that's a good news ツ
[11:59] <jcastro> "I wish Canonical would enforce stricter UI guidelines. This app looks much more native than their own Ubuntu One app."
[11:59] <jcastro> dpm: nice job!
[12:04] <czajkowski> jcastro: ping (third time lucky hopefully)
[12:04] <jcastro> hi
[12:04] <jcastro> otp
[12:05] <czajkowski> jcastro: when I got to create a AU and answer it I keep getting Oops! Your question couldn't be submitted because:
[12:05] <czajkowski> body is missing
[12:05] <czajkowski> what do I need to put in there as answering it myself further down
[12:10] <jcastro> well you need to ask the question in the title and body
[12:10] <jcastro> and then at the bottom there is a checkbox "answer my own question"
[12:10] <jcastro> and then you can post an answer at the same time
[12:24] <czajkowski> jcastro: ah so not in the the title area
[12:26] <czajkowski> hmmm
[12:26] <czajkowski> still having issues
[12:26] <czajkowski> It does not meet our quality standards.
[12:26] <czajkowski> would have all the FAQs put on LP by now :/
[12:29] <jcastro> Ok
[12:29] <jcastro> so in the title you put your question
[12:30] <jcastro> and then in the body you have to explain the question
[12:30] <czajkowski> that does seem a bit pointless but ok
[12:30] <jcastro> if you're hitting the quality filter it's likely too short
[12:30] <czajkowski> aye 30 characters
[12:38] <dpm> thanks jcastro :)
[12:43] <jcastro> czajkowski: did that work?
[12:45] <czajkowski> jcastro: aye just got one in http://askubuntu.com/questions/153037/commissioning-never-completes/153038#153038
[12:45] <czajkowski> these are the FAQ the red squad have either done or get asked so adding them to AU
[12:45] <czajkowski> so I know they are right as the lads all answered them
[12:45] <czajkowski> ;)
[12:45] <czajkowski> jcastro: thanks for the help it's really not a nice system to use :/
[12:47] <jcastro> you don't have much reputation, it's a spam measure that is unfortunately necessarry
[12:48] <czajkowski> fair enough just makes it kinda hard but tis done now and have a few more to go
[12:48] <czajkowski> and have posted to the dev ml to get some more folks to suggest FAQ
[12:48] <czajkowski> will be putting another -4 up there today
[12:48] <czajkowski> and getting any other mass ones answered
[12:51] <jcastro> czajkowski: tomorrow or whatever you can accept the answers for them
[12:51] <jcastro> czajkowski: also, you can encourage people to submit fixes to your answers if they need it.
[12:52] <czajkowski> nods okthanks
[12:52] <jcastro> I think when you hit 100 or so the restrictions will lift on asking the questions
[12:53] <jcastro> well, except for the quality ones, those are for everyone
[12:53] <jcastro> but just try to explain in the body more I guess
[13:02] <cjohnston> mornin
[13:24] <czajkowski> jcastro: cheers, bit baffled as to the edits gone in there, someone deleted a line and wronte the exact line again
[13:25] <czajkowski> *wrote
[13:25] <czajkowski> jcastro: oh that was you
[13:25] <czajkowski> I dont get it
[13:25] <czajkowski> :s
[13:25] <jcastro> I think I just added whitespace?
[13:25] <jcastro> and some formatting for the filename
[13:27] <czajkowski> hmm ok
[14:51] <nigelb> mhall119: woops, no jono for the session.
[14:51] <mhall119> he'd better show
[14:51] <nigelb> heh
[14:53] <dholbach> hi jono
[14:53] <nigelb> aha there he is!
[14:53] <jono> hey dholbach
[14:53] <mhall119> jono: dpm: I created the hangout, but it's not broadcasting yet
[14:53] <jono> nigelb, eh?
[14:53] <jono> mhall119, ok, will be two mins
[14:53] <nigelb> jono: can you join the classroom channels too. The bot just complained about you not being there :)
[14:56] <dpm_> mhall119, can you post the URL to the hangout?
[14:56] <dpm_> or alternatively update the /classroom page and I'll fetch it from there
[14:57] <jono> nigelb, there now
[14:57] <nigelb> thanks :)
[14:58] <mhall119> dpm_: jono: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/de894affe3162108fdd3bf0b3631f8b0118fc674?authuser=0&hl=en
[14:59] <dpm_> thanks mhall119
[14:59] <dpm_> jono, I'll join in to help feed the questions
[15:19] <czajkowski> what keeps happening the desktop?
[15:19] <mhall119> czajkowski: ?
[15:19] <mhall119> you mean the desktop-within-the-desktop?
[15:20] <czajkowski> within the desktop within the desktop :)
[15:21] <mhall119> yeah, he's sharing his screen that contains the video of him sharing the screen, hangout-inception :)
[15:21] <czajkowski> mhall119: dpm_ http://blog.launchpad.net/  may want to link that to folks, lets them know the new features coming up
[15:21] <czajkowski> including all our new bug features that are coming or have just landed
[15:21] <mhall119> czajkowski: you can post it in -classroom-chat
[15:21] <dpm_> czajkowski, ok, will point Jono to it
[15:21] <czajkowski> mhall119: in the middle of PPA stff here sorry
[15:40] <czajkowski> oh I just know tomorrow I'm gonna have a ton of questions in my inbox after people created new projects/teams
[15:40] <czajkowski> when things dont go right
[15:47] <mhall119> dpm_: are you going to be around to help during my sessions?
[15:47] <dpm_> mhall119, happy to be, sure
[15:47] <mhall119> thanks
[15:48] <dpm_> I might just have a break on the second one
[15:53] <dpm_> a rocking start to the 2nd workshop days, good work jono for the session and mhall119 for setting it up!
[15:54] <jono> thanks dpm, mhall119
[15:54] <dpm_> mhall119, as soon as you've got the hangout URL, let me know and I'll post on FB and G+ pointing people to d.u.c/w/classroom and your session
[16:09] <jcastro> <-- lunching
[16:32] <dholbach> alright - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[18:41] <mhall119> where did jono go?
[18:42] <bkerensa> mhall119: maybe catching a bite for lunch? :) tis noon on the west coast
[18:54] <nigelb> mhall119: jono disappeared again?
[18:54] <mhall119> seems o
[18:54] <mhall119> so
[19:06] <jussi> o/
[19:58] <mhall119> jono: hey, do you want to do the Developer Q+A with me
[19:58] <mhall119> ?
[20:01] <jono> mhall119, sure, one sec
[20:13] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GreekTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012  one of the most amazing applications I've seen in a long time by the Greek LoCo
[21:02] <mhall119> czajkowski: wow, that is nicely done
[21:02] <czajkowski> aye
[21:03] <czajkowski> mhall119: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChileanTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012  2 years post earth quake!
[21:05] <mhall119> we have some awesome teams
[21:05] <mhall119> (hopes czajkowski approves of using 'awesome' in this case)
[21:06] <czajkowski> :)
[21:06] <czajkowski> amazing :)
[21:06] <mhall119> :)
[21:07] <czajkowski> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-qc/events/history that is some list of activities!!
[21:16] <greg-g> all teams approved this LoCo Council meeting!
[21:17] <czajkowski> busy meeting
[21:18] <czajkowski> 4 down 26 more to do
[21:18] <czajkowski> busy cycle
[21:22] <greg-g> :)
[21:23] <bkerensa> quack
[21:32] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa, jajaja
[21:32] <SergioMeneses> I didn't know the quack thing =/
[21:33] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, It was a great meeting!
[21:34] <bkerensa> SergioMeneses: Surely you have ducks in Colombia? :)
[21:35] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa, yes, we have... but I don't understand the context
[21:35] <SergioMeneses> xD
[21:35] <SergioMeneses> It was fun, really
[21:40] <czajkowski> sometimes things just don't translate well
[21:40] <czajkowski> plus in a meeting it kinda is distracting as well
[21:45] <czajkowski> mhall119: jcastro https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg09472.html  one to keep an eye on
[21:48]  * ajmitch likes the look of being able to set up a local lp environment a bit easier
[21:54] <bkerensa> SergioMeneses: Oregon's state bird is a Duck (Because we have a lot compared to the rest of the country) and State Animal is a Beaver.... Our two largest university's also use the two animals as mascots :) OSU (Of Kernel.org fame) is the Beavers and OU is Ducks and each year we have a Civil War (Football game) and the entire state draws division lines around which team they root for :)
[21:57] <bkerensa> also UO entered into a agreement with Walt Disney to use Donald Duck in their mascot :) it was some sort of handshake deal but Disney has allowed them to use Donald for years :)
[22:08] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa, thanks for the information! :)
[22:08]  * SergioMeneses : quack!