[15:59] <jamespage> o/
[15:59] <arosales> hello
[16:00] <Daviey> o/
[16:00] <jimbaker> hi
[16:00] <Daviey> #startmeeting
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[16:01] <utlemming> o/
[16:01] <Daviey> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:01] <Daviey> arosales to correct "pieces" on ubuntu server blog
[16:02] <Daviey>  -- done by rbasak, super!
[16:02] <adam_g> o/
[16:02]  * rbasak apologises for the poor kerning
[16:02] <arosales> I think rbasak also filed a ticket to get the blogged moved, correct rbasak ?
[16:02] <rbasak> Yes. That's waiting on IS atm
[16:02] <arosales> rbasak: cool thanks
[16:03] <zul> helo
[16:03] <Daviey> arosales to follow up with rbask on finding the correct home for the Ubuntu Server blog.
[16:03] <arosales> Daviey: waiting on an IS ticket rbasak submitted
[16:04] <Daviey> Yep, i chimed in there aswell. So it's blocked with them.. I think it's making adequate progress to remove from agenda
[16:04] <Daviey> thanks rbasak
[16:04] <Daviey> jamespage, utlemming, and smb to discuss image bloat, in reference to discussion around dropping -virtual kernel; re bug 1009553
[16:04] <Daviey>  -- will cover in kernel section
[16:04] <Daviey> jamespage to follow up with hallyn on servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review
[16:05] <jamespage> c/f
[16:06] <Daviey> jamespage: c/f?
[16:06] <jamespage> carry forwards please
[16:06] <Daviey> oh, ok
[16:06] <Daviey> utlemming to follow up with rbasak on getting armhf images using highbank
[16:07] <utlemming> Daviey: still a todo
[16:07] <Daviey> ok, this week?
[16:07] <Daviey> [TOPIC] Quantal Development
[16:07] <Daviey> Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:08] <Daviey> bug 974584 Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container
[16:08] <Daviey> hallyn: one for you?
[16:08] <hallyn> yes.  i did NOT follow up last week.
[16:08] <hallyn> need to beg someone to analyze/commit my fix
[16:09] <Daviey> hallyn: upstream or distro?
[16:09] <smoser> o/
[16:09] <hallyn> debian and ubuntu
[16:10] <Daviey> hallyn: ok, lets see what we can progress out of meeting
[16:11] <Daviey> thanks
[16:11] <Daviey> bug 920197 zul ?
[16:11] <zul> Daviey: in progress
[16:12] <Daviey> zul: eta?
[16:12] <zul> Daviey: this week
[16:12] <Daviey> roaksoax: bug 1001846 .. he is afk..  will follow up post-meeting
[16:13] <Daviey> bug 1008537 , i disucssed with seb (Desktop), as it might e their concern.. Impacting Firefox aswell
[16:13] <Daviey> bug 1009294 smoser / utlemming ?
[16:13] <Daviey> jamespage: bug 1009579 ?
[16:13] <jamespage> Pending final ack from SRU team - I'll then make the seed changes required....
[16:14] <jamespage> and transition everything that needs to be (~10 packages)
[16:15] <Daviey> jamespage: Don't you need to unassign yourself, and Mark it back to NEW?
[16:15] <Daviey> (i don't think they will look a it with the current status)
[16:15] <Daviey> bug 993291 , jamespage ?
[16:15] <jamespage> when I get time...
[16:15] <jamespage> still working on a good test case ATM
[16:16] <Daviey> test cases rock my world.
[16:16] <Daviey> super
[16:16] <Daviey> bug 1009553 , smb ?
[16:16] <Daviey> bug 1013860 , zul ()[Dblocking MIR?
[16:16]  * smb looks innocent 
[16:16] <Daviey> hallyn: one for you? bug 1014005 ?
[16:16] <smb> Its fix realesed...
[16:17] <Daviey> smoser: i see you as assingee	?
[16:17] <Daviey> ah!
[16:17] <Daviey> smb, what is the current size, happen to know?
[16:17] <zul> Daviey: glanceclient will fixed in the next snapshot
[16:17] <smoser> wait. which am i assigee of?
[16:17] <smb> Daviey, No, not sure, has someone created a new image pulling only linux-virtual
[16:17] <zul> wait we still do jeos?
[16:17] <Daviey> smoser: was asking you about 1009294 .. you are not the assignee, but logical peson :)
[16:18] <Daviey> zul: nah, it's a keen abbreviation that someone has used
[16:18] <smoser> ah. Daviey ok. so yeah, that is fix-committed meaning dailies have been released with the fix in them.
[16:18] <smoser> (hte expected fix).
[16:18] <smoser> i can verify that the fix fixes quantal
[16:18] <smoser> and then we hvae to get utlemming to update hte precise images and release new images
[16:18] <hallyn> Daviey: i care more about kvm-ipxe, but sure.  honoring wishlist priority
[16:18] <Daviey> cool
[16:18] <smoser> which i thought was on his list.
[16:18] <utlemming> the images are tested and queued up
[16:18] <Daviey> bug 997782 .. needs an assignee
[16:19] <utlemming> I just have to put the changelog notice out
[16:19] <zul> Daviey: heh pppphppth
[16:19] <utlemming> and since http://changelogs.ubuntu.com is _still_ out, that is busy work
[16:19] <Daviey> hallyn: yeah, i set it to wishlist.. it seem to be a quickish fix we could slip into the next time it's touched
[16:19] <Daviey> u	urgh
[16:20] <jamespage> Daviey, I'll pickup bug 997782 - promised gnuoy I would
[16:20]  * jamespage assigns himself...
[16:20] <Daviey> jamespage: \o/
[16:20] <Daviey> That is it for current tracked issues.. Are there more that should be tracked?
[16:22] <Daviey> ok! great, so we are almost ready to release.
[16:22] <Daviey> Okay.. Blueprints!
[16:22] <Daviey> ANyone have any questions about WI/process?
[16:23] <arosales> the trend line was reset so it looks better now, thanks to skaet_
[16:23] <arosales> Anyone have a large amount of work items that _aren't_ documented?
[16:24] <Daviey> o/
[16:24]  * Daviey notes that -hardening is covering too much scope atm
[16:24] <Daviey> That topic needs to be reduced.
[16:25] <arosales> Daviey: ok, I"ll work with you on that off-line
[16:25] <arosales> There are some ARM blueprints that may get some additional work items . .
[16:25] <Daviey> I don't think we need to cover every topic right now, i think there is too much.  But generally, anyone have any red flags to raise?
[16:26] <zul> arosales: i usually add when to do openstack snapshots to the bluepritn but didnt this time because i couldnt keep it up to date last cycle
[16:27] <adam_g> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-charms  i haven't seen any WIs come out of this one. is that intentional or did i drop the ball on some BP paperwork ?
[16:27] <arosales> zul: ok, and probably encapsulated in other work items too
[16:28] <zul> arosales: right
[16:28] <Daviey> adam_g: it was missing the series
[16:28] <Daviey> adam_g: should show next refresh, good catch
[16:29] <adam_g> Daviey: ah! okay, thanks
[16:29] <arosales> adam_g: do we know how the charms will work with cloud archive?
[16:30] <arosales> openstack juju charms that is.
[16:30] <Daviey> I'm going to move on, any other concerns.. please raise asap
[16:30] <arosales> perhaps just deploying the latest which should track with the current release?
[16:30] <adam_g> arosales: that hasn't really been discussed to much, but it should be pretty forwarded provided we get determine some way of managing them in the charm store
[16:31] <adam_g> arosales: ping me later and we can chat about it
[16:31] <arosales> adam_g: ok, thanks
[16:31] <Daviey> [TOPIC] 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser)
[16:31] <jamespage> http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html
[16:31]  * smoser missed last weeks meeting
[16:31] <jamespage> your turn next week smoser :-)
[16:32] <jamespage> SRU activity ticking along nicely
[16:32] <Daviey> jamespage: how does the point release currently taste?
[16:32] <zul> i think we are still stuck on nova and dnsmasq
[16:32] <jamespage> good potential
[16:32] <Daviey> Goood progress?  Issues to raise?  Bottlenecks?
[16:32] <jamespage> but some work still to go
[16:33] <zul> dnsmasq and nova :)
[16:33] <jamespage> quite a few SRU's still need verification - any volunteers much appreciated - see the report
[16:33] <jamespage> like zul says ^^
[16:33] <jamespage> Daviey: also we really need to start tracking the 12.04.1 delivery for maas as well
[16:33] <Daviey> maas also needs an SRU
[16:33] <jamespage> snap
[16:33] <Daviey> hah
[16:34] <jamespage> so if we can get the bugs targetted and assigned that would be great
[16:34] <adam_g> what is the status of the stable updates to the openstack components? i see they are still in precise-proposed. are we required to verify all bugs fixed or ?
[16:35] <Daviey> okay., we probably need to start increasing the tracking for .1
[16:35] <Daviey> We need to follow up with the SRU team to try to get nova nto -proposed *today*
[16:35] <zul> adam_g: we are still waiting for nova
[16:35] <adam_g> zul: waiting for exactly?
[16:35] <Daviey> Then we need to really work on -verification.
[16:35] <Daviey> Okay... we have an actin.. super
[16:35] <Daviey> moving on?
[16:36] <zul> Daviey/adam_g: when its all ready ill blog about it and send an email to -server and openstack about it
[16:36] <adam_g> Daviey: actually can we get clarity on the openstack stuff? im still confused
[16:36] <adam_g> zul: telling/asking what? for verification of whats in proposed or an announcement that its been released?
[16:36] <zul> adam_g: both
[16:37] <zul> adam_g: meaning that its available for testing and can you please help test
[16:37] <adam_g> zul: so, we're going to need to go through the standard SRU process for each bug in the changelog, essentially?
[16:38] <adam_g> if so, we need to start compiling test cases now otherwise they're just going to rot in proposed like the first oneiric update
[16:38] <Daviey> ugh... internet problems hjere
[16:38] <Daviey> somewhat, adam	
[16:38] <zul> adam_g: i think so, the ones we can test
[16:38] <adam_g> okay, i still have no idea :) we can discuss later.
[16:38] <Daviey> adam_g: We need to consider the regression potential for each bug, so yes.
[16:39] <Daviey> As we've had input into most of the stable changes, that shouldn't be too much of a challenge
[16:39] <Daviey> just a slight pain
[16:39] <Daviey> We also need to have further discussions with the SRU team to make sure they are satisfied
[16:39] <zul> adam_g: indeed :)
[16:39] <Daviey> I suggest that in about 1 hr, we try to grab slangasek.
[16:40] <adam_g> +1
[16:41] <jamespage> OK - I think that covers most things for this slot
[16:43] <smoser> Daviey, moving on?
[16:43] <Daviey> moving on..
[16:43] <Daviey> ugh, sorry.. My net keeps dieing
[16:43] <Daviey> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:44] <arosales> Velocity next week. jcastro and hazmat in attendance there with a charm school.
[16:44] <Daviey> Ooo
[16:44] <Daviey> okay..
[16:45] <Daviey> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:45] <Daviey> How is the QA world?
[16:47] <jamespage> Not sure where hggdh is but I would encourage people to sign up to the ubuntu-utah-devel ML
[16:47] <jamespage> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-utah-devel
[16:47]  * hggdh is in
[16:47] <jamespage> utah is the new automated testing platform QA have been working on
[16:48] <jamespage> all server tests will be transitioned soon I understand - maybe hggdh can tell us when?
[16:48] <Daviey> jamespage: that is worth raising! Thanks.
[16:48] <hggdh> I do stress jamespage's comment -- please do sign up, and suggest/complain as needed
[16:48] <hggdh> yes, all tests will be migrated to UTAH
[16:48] <Daviey> There is also some planned Openstack CI work, but we should discuss that in a breakout.
[16:49] <Daviey> hggdh: been following DEP-8 disucssions?
[16:49] <Daviey> (or anyone else?)
[16:50] <hggdh> Daviey: I have not, been quite busy, unfortunately
[16:50] <Daviey> hggdh: it's something pitti has been seemingly driving in Debian.. But we've not had discussions or involvement with it.
[16:51] <Daviey> I think it will impact us soonly (or at least SHOULD).. so generally, we probably need to join that disucssion
[16:51] <hggdh> Daviey: I will ping pitti on that tomorrow (already gone for the day)
[16:51] <Daviey> moving on?
[16:51] <Daviey> hggdh: Thanks!
[16:51] <Daviey> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:51] <smb> Still trying not to go mental while looking for some scheduler bug. Meanwhile did a merge for Xen in Quantal which needs to get some review. (maybe I should not have told zul there are minor faults hidden for him to find... ;) ) Otherwise: questions?
[16:51] <smb> ..
[16:52] <zul> ill have a look at it tomorrow
[16:52] <Daviey> smoser: is there anything we can unblock wyou with?
[16:52] <Daviey> I understood you had some sponsorship issues?
[16:52] <smoser> smoser? or smb?
[16:52]  * smb wonders the same
[16:52] <smb> Daviey, Not really blocked on this
[16:53] <Daviey> sorry, i'm trying to type quickly and relying on tab complete as i seem to be suffering some network issue
[16:53] <Daviey> or, i'll blame the Quantal kernel.
[16:53] <Daviey> :)
[16:53] <Daviey> smb: Okay, i'm sorry to rush through this.. But yes, thanks.. Things currently seem good aiui.
[16:53] <Daviey> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:53] <rbasak> Nothing to report. Work on ARM server continues. Any questions for me?
[16:54] <Daviey> rbasak: How is 12.04.1 and 12.10 images currently looking?
[16:54] <Daviey> I didn't really dig into A1 images.
[16:54] <rbasak> Setting aside MAAS for a moment, 12.10 is essentially ready.
[16:54] <Daviey> (i imagine jamespage and smoser haven't dug specifically into arm issues for the point release.)
[16:55] <Daviey> rbasak: wow, don't say tat too loudly.
[16:55] <rbasak> Well all the ARM server specific parts, anyway
[16:55] <Daviey> right
[16:55] <Daviey> Any arm questions?
[16:55] <rbasak> NCommander is working on the highbank enablement in precise-updates. AIUI, that's about a week away.
[16:55] <Daviey> super!
[16:55] <rbasak> MAAS is the important part though, and work on that continues.
[16:56]  * jamespage knows about that ^^
[16:56] <Daviey> yep, fully aware of that little conundrum :)
[16:56] <Daviey> okay..
[16:56] <Daviey> [TOPIC] Welcome jimbaker to Server team (arosales).
[16:56] <arosales> Welcome jimbaker to the server team! We'll be putting jimbaker's juju, python, and java skills for Ubuntu Server :-)
[16:56] <rbasak> Welcome jimbaker!
[16:56] <Daviey> jimbaker: you are focusing on?
[16:57] <Daviey> ok..
[16:57] <Daviey> welcome JIM!
[16:57] <arosales> Perhaps away atm, We'll definately use his phython and java skill in addition to his juju skills.
[16:57] <Daviey> [TOPIC] Open Discussion
[16:58]  * arosales apologizes for not sending meeting minutes to the blog or email. 
[16:58] <arosales> I got added to the blog, so that should be corrected going forwared.
[16:58] <Daviey> \o/
[16:58] <Daviey> okay, lets wrap up..
[16:58] <Daviey> [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time
[16:58] <Daviey> same time, same place
[16:59] <Daviey> 26th June
[16:59] <arosales> thanks Daviey for chairing
[16:59] <Daviey> Thanks all for attending, and apologies for the sporadic nature.. it's been painful.
[16:59] <Daviey> #endmeeting
[16:59] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 19 16:59:37 2012 UTC.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 19 17:00:10 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <smb> \o
[17:00] <arges> \o/
[17:01] <apw> o/
[17:01] <ogasawara> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <sconklin__> o/
[17:01] <bjf> o/
[17:01] <cking> o/
[17:01] <ppisati> Q/omap4: nothing new this week.
[17:01] <ppisati> Q/omap3: i'm tracking down a fs corruption problem in 3.5rcX, a hang during boot related to voltage scaling and did some more debugging on kexec/usb.
[17:01] <herton> o/
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <rtg> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-quantal-alpha-2.html
[17:01] <ogasawara> || apw         || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 4 work item   ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 3 work items  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 1 work item ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || cking       || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 3 work items  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || cooloney    || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item   ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || jjohansen   || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item   ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || jk-         || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 2 work items  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 2 work items  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || ppisati     || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 1 work item   ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || sforshee    || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 1 work item   ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || smb         || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 1 work item   ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 1 work item   ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || tgardner    || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 2 work items  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 1 work items  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || kernel-team || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 2 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Alpha-2 work
[17:02] <ogasawara> items.
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> We have recently rebased the Quantal kernel to the latest v3.5-rc3
[17:02] <ogasawara> upstream kernel and have also uploaded.  It's currently building in the
[17:02] <ogasawara> archive but should be available for testing in the near future.  We
[17:02] <ogasawara> welcome any feedback.  This will also get uploaded to the q-lts-backport
[17:02] <ogasawara> [1] PPA to help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel in 12.04.  We
[17:02] <ogasawara> welcome any early adopters to please install, test, and let us know your
[17:02] <ogasawara> feedback there as well.
[17:02] <ogasawara> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[17:03] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Jun 28 - Alpha 2 (~1 weeks)
[17:03] <ogasawara>   * Note there is some interesting discussions happening on the
[17:03] <ogasawara>     ubuntu-devel mailing list regarding completely dropping the Alpha's
[17:03] <ogasawara>     and Beta's and moving to a 2 week release cadence
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:03] <sconklin__> == 2012-06-19 (weekly) ==
[17:03] <sconklin__> Currently we have 89 CVEs on our radar, with one CVE retired this week.
[17:03] <sconklin__> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:03] <sconklin__> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:03] <sconklin__> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:03] <sconklin__> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:03] <sconklin__> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <sconklin__> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:04] <bjf> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (June  05):
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf>  * Hardy    - 2.6.24-31.102 - Verified, ready for testing; 2 CVEs
[17:04] <bjf>  * Lucid    - 2.6.32-41.91  - Verified, ready for testing; 2 CVEs
[17:04] <bjf>  * Natty    - 2.6.38-15.61  - Verified, ready for testing; 3 CVEs
[17:04] <bjf>  * Oneiric  - 3.0.0-22.36   - Verified, ready for testing; 1 upstream stable release (approx. 60 commits), 1 CVE
[17:04] <bjf>  * Precise  - 3.2.0-26.41   - In verification; 1 upstream stable release (approx. 137 commits)
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:04] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:04] <bjf>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:04] <bjf>  
[17:04] <bjf> The week of Sept. 6 is the week the last Natty kernel will be
[17:04] <bjf> built.
[17:04] <bjf> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:06] <jsalisbury> going once
[17:06] <jsalisbury> going twice
[17:06] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:06] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:06] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 19 17:06:20 2012 UTC.
[17:06] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-19-17.00.moin.txt
[17:06] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-19-17.00.html
[19:04] <fefa> hi everyone
[20:02] <bkerensa> so many Oregonians just joined ;)
[20:02] <bkerensa> hi bryceh :P
[20:02] <c_smith> hello.
[20:02] <tgm4883> o/
[20:02] <c_smith> hello, everyone in Oregon.
[20:02] <shirgall> bkerensa: I'm always here, and I'm a Washingtonion, technically :)
[20:02]  * c_smith is from Oregon, and raises hand
[20:02] <c_smith> o/
[20:02] <bdmurray> oh, right I'm from Washington too
[20:03] <bkerensa> shirgall: ahh you have attended events ;)
[20:03] <czajkowski> aloha
[20:03] <greg-g> hi all!
[20:03] <bkerensa> :P
[20:03] <j_white1> I am from Oregon too. Monmouth here
[20:03] <trinikrono> o/
[20:03] <simosx> Hello everyone from Greece!
[20:03] <itnet7> cool bkerensa !
[20:03] <czajkowski> SergioMeneses: you chairing :)
[20:03] <fefa> hello here from Chile
[20:04] <c_smith> Monmouth? I lived there. almost nothing to do there, so one needs to be creative there.
[20:04] <PabloRubianes> hello from Uruguay
[20:04] <stavrosLinux> hello all
[20:04]  * c_smith currently hails from Salem.
[20:04]  * devxdev is from Tigard OR
[20:04] <j_white1> c_smith I am going to school
[20:04] <c_smith> j_white1, that would make sense.
[20:04] <tgm4883> j_white1, WOU?
[20:05] <j_white1> ^ yes WOU. CS major.
[20:05] <czajkowski> #startmeeting
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[20:05] <bkerensa> Portlandia here :)
[20:05] <NTR> As do I tgm4883
[20:05] <bkerensa> nathwill: where u from? :P
[20:05] <czajkowski> aloha and welcome to the Loco council meeting
[20:05] <czajkowski> we will be going through the teams in the order on the wiki page
[20:05] <konnn> Hello from Greece,too.
[20:05] <czajkowski> sit back and enjoy :)
[20:05] <fkol_k4> Hello frem Greek team
[20:05] <czajkowski> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[20:06]  * c_smith kicks back with music going through his headset
[20:06] <c7p> me too from Greek team
[20:06] <clepto95> me too :)
[20:06] <itnet7> c_smith: ;-)
[20:06] <NikTh> Hello from Greek team
[20:06] <czajkowski> #topic Quebec Re approval
[20:06] <czajkowski> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuebecTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[20:06]  * tgm4883 is 37.5% greek, but lives in oregon
[20:07] <greg-g> great looking reapproval app
[20:07] <czajkowski> tgm4883: hiya, we're doing another team first :)
[20:07] <czajkowski> komputes: ping
[20:07] <TRAVISg_> Just got here
[20:07] <tgm4883> czajkowski, ah, I saw all the greek team people pipe up
[20:07] <SergioMeneses> hello QuecbecTeam!
[20:07] <czajkowski> anyone here from Quebec ?
[20:08] <toumbo> Hello from me too
[20:08] <czajkowski> no :/
[20:08] <czajkowski> ok
[20:08]  * highvoltage 
[20:08] <greg-g> sad
[20:08] <SergioMeneses> nobody here
[20:08] <highvoltage> (oh sorry not me)
[20:08] <TRAVISg_> sorry not from Quebec and spoke out of turn now sitting down quitely and waiting my turn
[20:08] <czajkowski> highvoltage: I did wonder
[20:09] <highvoltage> (I'm in quebec but didn't read the context)
[20:09] <czajkowski> #topic Greek Loco re approval
[20:09] <czajkowski> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GreekTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[20:09] <czajkowski> Geochr: ping
[20:09] <greg-g>  this is actually the app I was referring to when I said it looks good, GreekTeam :)
[20:09] <Geochr> Hello from Greece !
[20:09] <SergioMeneses> Hello Ubuntu Greek Team!
[20:09] <czajkowski> welcome
[20:09] <czajkowski> thanks for coming folks
[20:09] <clepto95> Hello :)
[20:10] <SergioMeneses> yes, It is an awesome work! everything is there!
[20:10] <czajkowski> also fantastic application!
[20:10] <stavrosLinux> Hello !
[20:10] <fkol_k4> Glad to be here!
[20:10] <Geochr> thanks
[20:10] <czajkowski> amazing work and pictures make me happy!
[20:10] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, me too
[20:10] <itnet7> Really good activity!!
[20:10] <greg-g> definitely, pictures++
[20:10] <czajkowski> so Geochr care to tell us about your loco and how you do things please
[20:10] <Geochr> As an Ubuntu community, we started in 2005. We were first approved in 2008, reapproved in 2010, and hopefully for 2012.
[20:11] <Geochr> One of our core aims is to provide support for users in the Greek language. We achieved this with the forum (currently over 9500 members).
[20:11] <greg-g> wow
[20:11] <Geochr> Whenever we promote Ubuntu, we simply recommend new users to visit the forum for user support.
[20:11] <SergioMeneses> 9500!!!
[20:11] <Geochr> We aim to help our members to learn more about Ubuntu and enable them to bring more users to Ubuntu.
[20:11] <Geochr> We worked as a team and completed the localisation of Ubuntu 12.04 to Greek.
[20:12] <Geochr> e have two translation teams in aim to translate Ubuntu. The current release is fully translated in Greek language.
[20:12] <Geochr> We*
[20:12] <czajkowski> yay
[20:12] <Geochr> Another activity of our community is the Ubuntistas magazine. The whole magazine is fully created by our members (editorial, graphics etc). We have 14 issues since the first isue in November 2008
[20:12] <czajkowski> Geochr: so how has the team grown, since you were approved last?  has the team had to over come any issues
[20:13] <Geochr> Yes, we are do our best to improve the team
[20:13] <Geochr> and to spread the Ubuntu
[20:14] <komputes> hi czajkowski
[20:14] <czajkowski> komputes: we're in the middle of another team application now will try and circle back to you ok
[20:14] <komputes> ok
[20:14] <czajkowski> Geochr: is there something we the loco council can help with ?
[20:15] <SergioMeneses> the ubuntu magazine is a wonderful idea!... and congratulations Geochr and ubuntu Greek
[20:15] <SergioMeneses> excelente application
[20:15] <SergioMeneses> excellent
[20:15] <Geochr> Any advise from the  loco council is welecome
[20:15] <czajkowski> itnet7: SergioMeneses greg-g any other comments
[20:16] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, no
[20:16] <itnet7> Not really, I think we're ready to vote
[20:16] <greg-g> not from me,I love the application, well done GreekTeam!
[20:16] <czajkowski> #voters SergioMeneses itnet7 czajkowski greg-g
[20:16] <meetingology> Current voters: SergioMeneses czajkowski greg-g itnet7
[20:16] <Geochr> the congratulations are for the whole team nad not personal
[20:16] <czajkowski> #votesrequired 3
[20:16] <meetingology> votes now need 3 to be passed
[20:16] <itnet7> +1
[20:16] <greg-g> +1
[20:16] <SergioMeneses> +1
[20:16] <czajkowski> patience!
[20:16] <itnet7> lol
[20:17] <czajkowski> #vote please vote on the re approval of the Greek LoCo
[20:17] <meetingology> Please vote on: please vote on the re approval of the Greek LoCo
[20:17] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:17] <czajkowski> +1 amazing application keep up the great work
[20:17] <meetingology> +1 amazing application keep up the great work received from czajkowski
[20:17] <Geochr> thanks...
[20:17] <itnet7> +1 definitely
[20:17] <meetingology> +1 definitely received from itnet7
[20:17] <greg-g> +1
[20:17] <meetingology> +1 received from greg-g
[20:17] <SergioMeneses> +1 excellent!
[20:17] <meetingology> +1 excellent! received from SergioMeneses
[20:17] <czajkowski> #endvote
[20:17] <meetingology> Voting ended on: please vote on the re approval of the Greek LoCo
[20:17] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:17] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:17] <greg-g> :)
[20:17] <greg-g> well done team!
[20:17] <Geochr> thanks loco council
[20:17] <clepto95> thank you!
[20:18] <Geochr> see you 2014 !
[20:18] <SergioMeneses> congratulations
[20:18] <czajkowski> #action SergioMeneses update lauchpad with updated expirary date
[20:18] <meetingology> ACTION: SergioMeneses update lauchpad with updated expirary date
[20:18] <czajkowski> :)
[20:18] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, ok
[20:18] <czajkowski> #topic Oregon Approval
[20:18] <itnet7> Good Job Greece!!
[20:18] <czajkowski> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/ApprovalApplication
[20:18] <the_eye_> thanks
[20:18] <greg-g> hello there Oregon :)
[20:18] <devxdev> Hiya!
[20:18] <bryceh> o/
[20:18] <tgm4883> Quack
[20:18] <SergioMeneses> Hello Ubuntu Oregon Team!
[20:18] <bkerensa> Quack
[20:18] <TRAVISg_> QUACK!
[20:18] <bdmurray> Hi
[20:18] <cweber10> Quack
[20:18] <czajkowski> nathwill: hi there
[20:18] <c_smith> quack
[20:18] <j_white1> Quack
[20:19] <jvlb> Quack!
[20:19] <nathwill> hi all
[20:19] <MarkDude> Quack
[20:19] <czajkowski> nathwill: hiya care to tell us about the team ?
[20:19] <trinikrono> congrats to greek team!
[20:19] <slangasek> um... moo
[20:19]  * shirgall also quacks
[20:19]  * sbeattie waves
[20:19] <tgm4883> lol
[20:19] <bkerensa> tgm4883 will be stepping in for nathwill
[20:19] <konnn> thanks from greece
[20:19] <nathwill> czajkowski, actually, tgm4833 is gonna be taking over for the meeting, i've got some work stuff blowing up that is making me only intermittently available
[20:19] <czajkowski> tgm4883: ok hi there
[20:20] <greg-g> I wouldn't have thought I'd see so much quacking in a LC meeting
[20:20] <itnet7> greg-g: ;-)
[20:20] <tgm4883> Although unofficially a team, we've been contributing to Ubuntu in different capacities for quite a while now
[20:20] <bryceh> greg-g, if it walks like a duck...
[20:20] <tgm4883> Be it release parties, ubuntu hours, bug squashing parties, etc
[20:20] <Brian_H> delayed quack!
[20:21] <kees> quack quack
[20:21] <SergioMeneses> what is quack? or means
[20:21] <tgm4883> bkerensa, has really done quite a lot of work in getting us organized and getting us out into the community
[20:21] <bkerensa> quack
[20:21] <komputes> quack?
[20:21] <czajkowski> ok less quacking and more answering :)
[20:21] <MarkDude> +1
[20:21] <czajkowski> please
[20:21] <bkerensa> Quack = Duck noise... Oregon state animal :P
[20:21] <czajkowski> it doesnt translate well
[20:21] <c_smith> it's an oregon joke
[20:21] <c_smith> czajkowski, it's an Oregon joke.
[20:21] <greg-g> just a point of clarification, there is a important difference between an official team and an approved team. Official isn't a defined word in the LoCo world, so, any team that is working towards approval is effectively the official team of that area
[20:22] <tgm4883> czajkowski, The Oregon team has the largest amount of bug fixes of any loco in North America
[20:22] <czajkowski> greg-g: +1
[20:22] <SergioMeneses> totally agree
[20:22] <tgm4883> we try to have lots of fixes in  the repository each cycle
[20:23] <tgm4883> and our team did much of the multi-arch transitioning of libraries for 12.04
[20:24] <MarkDude> http://oregonsportsreport.com/or_files/ducks.gif <<<< the Duck in question :)
[20:24] <czajkowski> tgm4883: great, how do you manage all of this as I see from launchpad you have 45 members, but yet ye say ye have over 1K followers on social sites, do you think at some point you will get people in these areas to get involved?
[20:25] <itnet7> tgm4883: I enjoyed reading about your events and outreach
[20:25] <tgm4883> czajkowski, While we have 45 members that considered themselves part of our team and have signed up on that web-page, we have a larger community that comes to these events that we hold that are not part of our team
[20:26] <czajkowski> tgm4883: cool
[20:26] <czajkowski> thats good to know
[20:27] <tgm4883> czajkowski, I think the primary reason most people don't join that page is the requirement for a LP account
[20:27] <tgm4883> we encourage, but never force
[20:28] <nathwill> we've also got some pretty active folks in the juju charm-writing community
[20:28] <itnet7> very good work on all of the fixes, and development that you're team is doing as well!
[20:28] <tgm4883> czajkowski, I've been with the team since I started contributing to Ubuntu (back in 2007 when there were 3 of us) and I can absolutely say that I am proud of the accomplishments this team has made
[20:29] <czajkowski> nods
[20:29] <bkerensa> Yep... myself, nathwill and kees all have charms in the charm store and kees and I have both won awards on two occasions.. We regularly use Kees sbuild charm to do package building at BSP's and Bug Jams
[20:29] <czajkowski> greg-g: SergioMeneses itnet7 any other questions
[20:29] <itnet7> tgm4883: what is one of your team biggest accomplishments that you're proud of??
[20:29] <SergioMeneses> nathwill, bkerensa Can you tell us something about your future goals?
[20:29] <kees> I've been hoping to encourage other locos to use the sbuild charm. it's very handy.
[20:30] <tgm4883> Our team has been blessed by some of the members being so good at what they do and able to teach the rest of us (kees, slangasek, bdmurray, and others)
[20:30] <greg-g> just another point of clarification, and this isn't meant to be a jab/criticism, work done by Canonical employees during their work time isn't normally looked at for either personal Ubuntu Membership nor LoCo approval (pending special circumstance) so the library transition (which I assume was done by the great work of the Canonical Oregon people) doesn't really count for this application.
[20:30] <bkerensa> SergioMeneses: My biggest goal or hope is that we can continue to grow our base of contributors while educating our existing base and teaching them how to do more packaging and bug fixes
[20:30] <greg-g> (sorry to be the perpetual point clarifier)
[20:30] <nathwill> czajkowski, we're working on expanding Ubuntu Hours as a low-key, low-pressure way for people to get involved with the community
[20:30] <greg-g> (also, if I misunderstood/assumed incorrectly, let me know)
[20:30] <nathwill> we'd also like to expand to other areas in Oregon
[20:30] <kees> fwiw, I don't work for Canonical.
[20:31] <bkerensa> greg-g: Canonical employees are not required to come to loco events or contribute and do so voluntarily :) we have a number who do participate and plenty who do not
[20:31] <nathwill> i've got some contacts down in Medford who i'm working on getting together so they can coordinate team events in the southern piece of the state
[20:31] <bdmurray> greg-g: and some of the transitioning work was done at a weekend event
[20:31] <tgm4883> itnet7, Personally I think our biggest accomplishment is actually being able to successfully have the events we have had. Unlike much of the east coast, oregon is not so densely populated so getting the numbers of people we have seen at the events is quite outstanding
[20:31] <bkerensa> ^
[20:31] <greg-g> bkerensa: right, that is great, and that is separate/othoganal to what I was referring to
[20:31] <greg-g> bdmurray: oh, that's cool!
[20:31] <bkerensa> also kees for the record is not a Canonical employee ;)
[20:31] <greg-g> kees: I guess I missed that :)
[20:31] <c_smith> May I throw something in?
[20:31] <SergioMeneses> bkerensa, great!
[20:31] <itnet7> cool tgm4883, Thanks! Sure c_smith
[20:32] <slangasek> greg-g: what's referred to for the multiarch library transitions was a weekend event
[20:32] <greg-g> slangasek: gotcha, then I assumed wrong in the specific case here.
[20:32] <greg-g> (the general point still stands ;) )
[20:32] <c_smith> I and a few other folks here in Salem host an Ubuntu Hour weekly, slowly but surely more people are attending.
[20:32] <greg-g> my apologies
[20:32] <slangasek> greg-g: yep, understood :)
[20:32] <itnet7> c_smith: that's really great!!
[20:33] <tgm4883> slangasek, thanks for clearing that up for me :)
[20:33] <SergioMeneses> If you work like a LoCo I don't see problem about the Canonical employees
[20:33] <czajkowski> right I'm keen to keep this moving we have more teams to get to today, any other comments / questions folks
[20:33] <greg-g> yep, go ahead from me :)
[20:33] <greg-g> I'm done clarifying points ;)
[20:33] <czajkowski> #vote please vote on the approval on the Oregon Loco
[20:33] <meetingology> Please vote on: please vote on the approval on the Oregon Loco
[20:33] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:34] <bryceh> +1
[20:34] <greg-g> :)
[20:34] <czajkowski> and thats why I do the named voters
[20:34] <itnet7> :-)
[20:34] <greg-g> +1
[20:34] <meetingology> +1 received from greg-g
[20:34] <SergioMeneses> +1
[20:34] <meetingology> +1 received from SergioMeneses
[20:34] <itnet7> +1 Great Job!
[20:34] <meetingology> +1 Great Job! received from itnet7
[20:34] <czajkowski> +1
[20:34] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[20:34] <czajkowski> #endvote
[20:34] <meetingology> Voting ended on: please vote on the approval on the Oregon Loco
[20:34] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:34] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:35] <czajkowski> #action SergioMeneses update approved locoteams on launchpad and add Oregon loco
[20:35] <meetingology> ACTION: SergioMeneses update approved locoteams on launchpad and add Oregon loco
[20:35] <itnet7> Congratulations, Good Job Oregon!!!
[20:35] <czajkowski> welcome oregon loco
[20:35] <nathwill> whooo!!!!! ty council-members :)
[20:35] <kamusin> congrats Oregon
[20:35] <SergioMeneses> Ubuntu Oregon congratulations... and I like the "quack" thing xD
[20:35] <c_smith> lol
[20:35] <bkerensa> Congrats guys you did great work!
[20:35] <itnet7> ditto ;-)
[20:35] <bkerensa> and gals even :)
[20:35] <c_smith> that's one who likes the joke.
[20:36] <czajkowski> #topic Chile LoCo Re approval
[20:36] <MarkDude> Yay
[20:36] <czajkowski> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChileanTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[20:36] <fefa_> hi i'm fefa from chilean team
[20:36] <czajkowski> fefa_: hey there
[20:36] <czajkowski> cristianvirtual: ping
[20:36] <fefa_> We're here for our second  re approvalthis is the link to our wiki page with the latest  activitiesand we've been involved in a lot of free software events  in our Countryalways participating with our booth and giving talks  about Ubuntu
[20:36] <SergioMeneses> hello Ubuntu Chilean Team!
[20:36] <cristianvirtual> hello
[20:36] <c3959_> hello!
[20:36] <arvaro> hola hola - hello
[20:36] <czajkowski> wow impressive application!
[20:37] <kamusin> hey!
[20:37] <fefa_> everybody say hi !!
[20:37] <pedro_> and the link is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChileanTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[20:37] <czajkowski> cristianvirtual: hey so how are things in the team?
[20:38] <itnet7> Very nice!
[20:38] <fefa_> hi
[20:38] <cristianvirtual> czajkowski: greats! well, sorry im at work now, fefa is representing us for today :( sorry
[20:38] <pedro_> sadly cristianvirtual (i think) is in a meeting right now
[20:38] <pedro_> most of us are currently working
[20:38] <pedro_> ~4 pm here in Chile
[20:38] <czajkowski> no problem
[20:38] <czajkowski> anyone cna jump in
[20:38] <czajkowski> how are the team doing
[20:38] <fefa_> so any question here i am
[20:38] <pedro_> things are going great in our LoCo team
[20:38]  * greg-g is "working" too
[20:39] <czajkowski> last time you guys were here it was post the earthquake and yet you guys were still active
[20:39] <pedro_> this is the moment of the year were we have a lot of Free software related events
[20:39] <czajkowski> I can see from the wiki page no change there
[20:39] <greg-g> yeah, conferene season.
[20:39] <pedro_> it was a bit slow the past year, cause of the reconstruction and all that
[20:39] <czajkowski> nods
[20:39]  * greg-g nos
[20:39] <pedro_> but we keep rolling
[20:39] <czajkowski> but you guys are still doing things so kudos to you al
[20:39] <pedro_> so yeah things are going great this year for us as a team
[20:39] <czajkowski> what issues if any have ye overcome?
[20:40] <pedro_> mostly related to our Geo , Chile is a loong country
[20:40] <greg-g> yes it is :)
[20:40] <czajkowski> nods
[20:40] <pedro_> so most of the 'issues' we have are related to that
[20:40] <greg-g> do you have sub geographical get togethers/meetings?
[20:40] <pedro_> we have problems with things like: merch
[20:40] <pedro_> how to send the merch to the guys that are 900kms away from the main city :-P
[20:40] <czajkowski> nods that is sometimes an issue in teams it is sometimes active in one area over an other, but things change
[20:41] <pedro_> the bill is a bit big when you have to do that
[20:41] <czajkowski> true!
[20:41] <pedro_> yeah, we try to have monthly meetings to keep the communication going
[20:41]  * SergioMeneses nobs
[20:41] <pedro_> and we also use the ML and since the past year facebook for the communication
[20:41] <czajkowski> pedro_: how do you guys organise events with people does everyone pitch in or how is it done
[20:41] <pedro_> mostly for sending announcements
[20:42] <pedro_> it seems that we have more users in that group that in the loco team itself :-P
[20:42] <SergioMeneses> pedro_, Can you tell us something about your future goals?
[20:42] <SergioMeneses> fefa_, ↑↑↑
[20:42] <pedro_> fefa_: all yours :-)
[20:42] <fefa_> SergioMeneses  the most importanta is waht pedro_ sayd before
[20:42] <fefa_> we eant to get to the entyre country
[20:43] <fefa_> with talks, events,etc
[20:43] <fefa_> and also help people outside santiago to do that
[20:43] <fefa_> like pedro- sayd is a little hard for the money that we spend sending merch but we do the best we can do
[20:44] <fefa_> :)
[20:44] <czajkowski> is there anything the council can do to help you ?
[20:44] <SergioMeneses> fefa_, great
[20:44] <czajkowski> not financial :)
[20:44] <czajkowski> but on other ways
[20:44] <pedro_> sometimes we have issues contacting Canonical for getting CDS
[20:44] <SergioMeneses> sponsors
[20:45] <pedro_> so maybe that's something you guys can help us with?
[20:45] <pedro_> for example, we didn't get any reply for like 6 months or so for the last request
[20:45] <pedro_> that was an issue for us
[20:45] <kamusin> true true..
[20:45] <pedro_> in the end , we have to spend money that was destinated to actually send merch to the rest of the country
[20:45] <pedro_> in CDS
[20:45] <czajkowski> hmm
[20:45] <czajkowski> pedro_: was this for the approved cd allocation ?
[20:45] <pedro_> so our budget was reduced because of that
[20:46] <pedro_> czajkowski: yeah
[20:46] <greg-g> the shipit process was holding you up?
[20:46] <greg-g> huh
[20:46] <greg-g> that's good to know, pedro_ , thanks
[20:46] <czajkowski> you did apply for them ?
[20:46] <pedro_> don't really know if that happened to some other loco team or not
[20:46] <czajkowski> #action czajkowski chase up on Chile loco CD allocation
[20:46] <meetingology> ACTION: czajkowski chase up on Chile loco CD allocation
[20:47] <czajkowski> pedro_: fefa_ if someone could drop me a mail with your details I will chase up on that for you tomrorow czajkowski@ubuntu.com
[20:47] <czajkowski> sorry about that
[20:47] <czajkowski> SergioMeneses: greg-g itnet7 anything else?
[20:47] <itnet7> Thanks for not getting discouraged pedro_ ;-0
[20:47] <pedro_> no worries
[20:47] <greg-g> I'm good
[20:47] <itnet7> and team
[20:47] <SergioMeneses> me too
[20:47] <pedro_> czajkowski: will do it, thanks
[20:47] <fefa_> czajkowski great i'll sendo you an email with all the details
[20:47] <fefa_> thanks
[20:47] <kamusin> shiping process is always a stress point for our pockets
[20:47] <czajkowski> #vote please vote on the re approval of the Chile loco
[20:47] <meetingology> Please vote on: please vote on the re approval of the Chile loco
[20:47] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:48] <greg-g> +1
[20:48] <meetingology> +1 received from greg-g
[20:48] <czajkowski> +1 :)
[20:48] <meetingology> +1 :) received from czajkowski
[20:48] <itnet7> +1 Awesome Job!!
[20:48] <meetingology> +1 Awesome Job!! received from itnet7
[20:48] <SergioMeneses> +1
[20:48] <meetingology> +1 received from SergioMeneses
[20:48] <czajkowski> #endvote
[20:48] <meetingology> Voting ended on: please vote on the re approval of the Chile loco
[20:48] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:48] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:48] <greg-g> thanks pedro_ fefa_ and the rest of the team!
[20:48] <c3959_> :-)
[20:48] <itnet7> Definitely
[20:48] <fefa_> thank you guys
[20:48] <pedro_> thanks folks and sorry again for not having the whole loco team involved in this process as we wanted to :-)
[20:48] <SergioMeneses> congratulations fefa_ pedro_ and ubuntu chilean team!
[20:48] <greg-g> pedro_: no worries
[20:48] <czajkowski> #action SergioMeneses update approved locoteams with chile new expiray date
[20:48] <meetingology> ACTION: SergioMeneses update approved locoteams with chile new expiray date
[20:48]  * fefa_ was very nervous 
[20:48] <fefa_> thanks
[20:48] <kamusin> thank you guys
[20:48] <pedro_> SergioMeneses: just set it as 2020 or something  :-P
[20:48] <cristianvirtual> :)
[20:49] <arvaro> gracias!
[20:49] <cristianvirtual> \o/
[20:49] <czajkowski> #topic Uruguay LoCo Re approval
[20:49] <SergioMeneses> pedro_, jajaja
[20:49] <czajkowski> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UruguayTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[20:49] <PabloRubianes> Hello
[20:49] <czajkowski> PabloRubianes: ping
[20:49] <PabloRubianes> hi czajkowski
[20:49] <SergioMeneses> hello Ubuntu Uruguay Team!
[20:49] <czajkowski> welcome !
[20:49] <SergioMeneses> hello PabloRubianes
[20:50] <czajkowski> thanks for coming and sorry for keeping you waiting
[20:50] <PabloRubianes> if you follow the event links there are photos and more details
[20:50] <PabloRubianes> no problem czajkowski
[20:50] <czajkowski> PabloRubianes: who did the video work for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MCBDenb2bs
[20:50] <czajkowski> that was just AMAZING!!!
[20:51] <SergioMeneses> video with Mark!
[20:51] <SergioMeneses> :)
[20:51] <PabloRubianes> that was a huge almost one year process
[20:51] <PabloRubianes> we started to talk to Argentina loco in order to have a multi country event
[20:51] <SergioMeneses> PabloRubianes, congratulations about the UbuConLA,
[20:51] <PabloRubianes> and all worked really well
[20:52] <SergioMeneses> PabloRubianes, yes, I can see it in the planet!
[20:52] <PabloRubianes> thanks to google hangout and lot of hard work we did a great conference
[20:52] <czajkowski> nods
[20:52] <PabloRubianes> czajkowski, people was shocked about the video
[20:52] <greg-g> czajkowski: that video work:
[20:52] <greg-g> http://www.vacuispacii.org/motion-graphics-para-ubucon-latinoamerica/
[20:53] <czajkowski> yes that was pretty
[20:53] <czajkowski> PabloRubianes: so tell us about your team
[20:53] <PabloRubianes> the team is quite active
[20:54] <PabloRubianes> trying to create new forms of events
[20:54] <PabloRubianes> as the "Welcome Day"
[20:54] <czajkowski> oh do tell
[20:54] <czajkowski> what's that ?
[20:54] <czajkowski> I like to hear about new ideas
[20:54] <SergioMeneses> new members?
[20:54] <SergioMeneses> something like FLISOL?
[20:54] <PabloRubianes> mainly is to atract new people on the street
[20:55] <czajkowski> more formal than an Ubuntu hour ? but not a conference?
[20:55] <PabloRubianes> czajkowski, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UruguayTeam/Eventos/UserDay_14-01-2012
[20:55] <PabloRubianes> there are a picture there
[20:55] <PabloRubianes> we ask to the museum for energy
[20:56] <czajkowski> nods
[20:56] <czajkowski> something different alright
[20:56] <SergioMeneses> PabloRubianes, ubuntu on the street
[20:56] <PabloRubianes> and with laptops showed people on the street what ubuntu is
[20:56] <czajkowski> wow
[20:56] <itnet7> Very nice!
[20:57] <czajkowski> PabloRubianes: do you feel there are any issues in the team that need help with or in general ?
[20:57] <PabloRubianes> czajkowski, we have a similar issue with the cds
[20:57] <PabloRubianes> but is different that chile
[20:58] <PabloRubianes> because the problem is the customs don't believe someone can send a ton of cds to give away
[20:58] <czajkowski> PabloRubianes: did you get them at all ?
[20:58] <czajkowski> ahh
[20:58] <czajkowski> PabloRubianes: did you contact shipit for a letter?
[20:58] <PabloRubianes> and they want to charge us
[20:58] <PabloRubianes> czajkowski,
[20:58] <PabloRubianes> yes we did
[20:59] <czajkowski> and..
[20:59] <PabloRubianes> but as we had problems we stoped to ask for them until we can arrange with customs
[20:59] <PabloRubianes> we don't want to cds to be wasted
[20:59] <czajkowski> nods
[20:59] <czajkowski> ok so for the 12.04 cds did you ask for them or not ?
[20:59] <greg-g> I'm sorry you have to deal with that situation, that is not encouraging.
[20:59] <PabloRubianes> is a Uruguayan problem and we will fix it
[21:00] <PabloRubianes> greg-g, to fight this
[21:00] <PabloRubianes> we give away cds asking fot a blank one
[21:00] <PabloRubianes> is not the same but is useful
[21:00] <czajkowski> PabloRubianes: did you ask for the 12.04 ones?
[21:01] <PabloRubianes> czajkowski, no because this situacion
[21:01] <PabloRubianes> we are going to the customs administration in a few weeks
[21:01] <PabloRubianes> so maybe we can arrange this
[21:01] <czajkowski> PabloRubianes: ok can you drop me amail with details and I'll follow up tomorrow please
[21:01] <czajkowski> #action czajkowski follow up on PabloRubianes CD issue with shipit
[21:01] <meetingology> ACTION: czajkowski follow up on PabloRubianes CD issue with shipit
[21:01] <PabloRubianes> czajkowski, ok thanks
[21:01] <czajkowski> ok so any more comments as we have on more team to see
[21:02] <greg-g> I'm good
[21:02] <itnet7> I think we're good
[21:02] <itnet7> :-)
[21:02] <czajkowski> #vote please vote on the re approval of the Uruguay LoCo
[21:02] <meetingology> Please vote on: please vote on the re approval of the Uruguay LoCo
[21:02] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[21:02] <SergioMeneses> no
[21:02] <czajkowski> +1
[21:02] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[21:02] <greg-g> +1
[21:02] <meetingology> +1 received from greg-g
[21:02] <SergioMeneses> +1
[21:02] <itnet7> +1 Great Job!
[21:02] <meetingology> +1 received from SergioMeneses
[21:02] <meetingology> +1 Great Job! received from itnet7
[21:02] <czajkowski> #endvote
[21:02] <meetingology> Voting ended on: please vote on the re approval of the Uruguay LoCo
[21:02] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[21:02] <meetingology> Motion carried
[21:02] <czajkowski> #action SergioMeneses update LP approved locoteams
[21:02] <meetingology> ACTION: SergioMeneses update LP approved locoteams
[21:02] <PabloRubianes> Thanks to the LoCo Council
[21:02] <SergioMeneses> PabloRubianes, congratulations!
[21:03] <PabloRubianes> and czajkowski one more thing
[21:03] <itnet7> Thanks for all of you and your teams hard work!!
[21:03] <PabloRubianes> thanks to help us in the issue with the dates of expiration!
[21:03] <czajkowski> #topic Quebec re approval
[21:03] <czajkowski> PabloRubianes: np
[21:03] <PabloRubianes> :)
[21:03] <czajkowski> komputes: ping
[21:04] <komputes> hi czajkowski
[21:04] <czajkowski> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuebecTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[21:04] <itnet7> Hey there komputes !
[21:04] <komputes> hi itnet7
[21:04] <SergioMeneses> hello ubuntu Quebec!
[21:04] <czajkowski> komputes: sorry for that but as we have so many to get through if people don't turn up we have to move on
[21:04] <komputes> and hello to my fellow loco team members cyphermox and IdleOne
[21:04] <czajkowski> komputes: so how is Quebec loco doing ?
[21:04] <komputes> czajkowski: yup, no problem
[21:05] <cyphermox> hey hey
[21:05] <komputes> czajkowski: very vibrant as usual. mailing list is the most used for internal communication in the loco.
[21:06] <czajkowski> cyphermox: IdleOne alohe
[21:06] <czajkowski> *a
[21:06] <komputes> We run regular events for new and experienced users.
[21:07] <cyphermox> komputes: we should get started on organizing a bug jam very very soon
[21:07] <czajkowski> so I'm not used to seeing testimonals on a loco page, that's rather new :)
[21:07] <czajkowski> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-qc/events/history that is some list of activities!!
[21:07] <komputes> just a few kind words from our vocal members )
[21:08] <komputes> As I said, we regularly run activities. And they are fun, we usually bring food, have presentations and discussions.
[21:08] <czajkowski> komputes: so who organises the events?
[21:08] <komputes> czajkowski: cyphermox and I
[21:08] <greg-g> 2011 was quite active! are you still doing those Ubuntu Hours?
[21:09] <czajkowski> ah yes my other name sake for highlighting :)
[21:09] <cyphermox> it's usually me and/or komputes, yes, but there is often interest in having activities in other locations than montreal where other loco team members organize their activities, since it's pretty geographically dispersed
[21:09] <czajkowski> nods
[21:09] <komputes> greg-g: not as frequently due to work schedule, I would like to delegate that to another member so that we have ubuntu hours more frequently
[21:09] <czajkowski> do you encourage people who are local to you guys to start their own meet ups ?
[21:09] <czajkowski> or do tney have to come through you guys ?
[21:10] <cyphermox> greg-g: the person who was doing the ubuntu hours regularly no longer really does much (MagicFab) but I've been discussing with another member starting to do this again in automn
[21:10] <komputes> czajkowski: they do not have to go through us, we often get announcements for other places than Montreal in the mailing list.
[21:10] <greg-g> ahh, good ole magicfab :)
[21:10] <czajkowski> komputes: that;s what I like to hear :)
[21:10] <cyphermox> czajkowski: no, we strongly encourage people to make their own, and when I see people mentioning stuff I offer them to add the event to the loco directory
[21:10] <IdleOne> Hello!
[21:10] <SergioMeneses> cyphermox, MagiFab is from Colombian! I know him
[21:10] <czajkowski> don't like to hear of blocking having events!
[21:10] <czajkowski> cyphermox: brilliant!
[21:10] <cyphermox> SergioMeneses: indeed
[21:10] <czajkowski> <3 hapy
[21:11] <cyphermox> he's more involved in Trisquel, FSF, and work lately :)
[21:11] <SergioMeneses> cyphermox, yes, he told me
[21:12] <czajkowski> any other comments/issues
[21:12] <cyphermox> I'm getting a nice interest in Ubuntu from the Université de Montreal, so as soon as students start going to school again, we should be getting a few new loco members I expect :)
[21:12] <czajkowski> did ye get your cds?
[21:12] <cyphermox> czajkowski: no
[21:12] <czajkowski> bah
[21:12] <cyphermox> we have a few CDs in the office though
[21:12] <czajkowski> cyphermox: did ye apply
[21:12] <czajkowski> for 12.04 ?
[21:13] <cyphermox> czajkowski: no, it was for approved loco teams :)
[21:13] <czajkowski> cyphermox: ah confusing as your team says re approval
[21:13] <czajkowski> ok
[21:13] <cyphermox> right
[21:13] <czajkowski> but now I clicked
[21:13] <czajkowski> #vote please vote on the re approval of the Quebec LoCo
[21:13] <meetingology> Please vote on: please vote on the re approval of the Quebec LoCo
[21:13] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[21:14] <czajkowski> +1
[21:14] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[21:14] <IdleOne> I just want to say that both komputes and cyphermox are awesome people and they work very hard at keeping Ubuntu alive in Montreal and Quebec in general. I only wish I had more time to help them out.
[21:14] <SergioMeneses> +1
[21:14] <meetingology> +1 received from SergioMeneses
[21:14] <greg-g> +1
[21:14] <meetingology> +1 received from greg-g
[21:14] <itnet7> +1 good job
[21:14] <meetingology> +1 good job received from itnet7
[21:14] <greg-g> great work everyone!
[21:14] <cyphermox> thanks so much komputes for organizing the wiki pages and all :)
[21:14] <czajkowski> #endvote
[21:14] <meetingology> Voting ended on: please vote on the re approval of the Quebec LoCo
[21:14] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[21:14] <meetingology> Motion carried
[21:14] <czajkowski> #action SergioMeneses update LP approved locos
[21:14] <meetingology> ACTION: SergioMeneses update LP approved locos
[21:14] <czajkowski> #action greg-g to update the wiki and team report with meeting mins
[21:14] <meetingology> ACTION: greg-g to update the wiki and team report with meeting mins
[21:15] <czajkowski> #endmeeting
[21:15] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 19 21:15:01 2012 UTC.
[21:15] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-19-20.05.moin.txt
[21:15] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-19-20.05.html
[21:15] <czajkowski> whoooo
[21:15] <czajkowski> :)
[21:15] <komputes> Thank you all for voting us back to Approval state.
[21:15] <SergioMeneses> congratulations Ubuntu Quebec! - cyphermox
[21:15] <greg-g> thanks everyone!
[21:15] <komputes> Thanks everyone
[21:15] <cyphermox> SergioMeneses: yay!
[21:15] <greg-g> thanks for a great meeting and great Ubuntu LoCo Community, so healthy, so wonderful
[21:15] <itnet7> Congrats to all the teams today!!
[21:15] <czajkowski> thank you all for coiming
[21:15] <czajkowski> *coming
[21:15] <czajkowski> great meeting
[21:15] <Geochr> Thanks loco council. Good night from Greece
[21:15] <SergioMeneses> thanks for comming
[21:15] <czajkowski> Slan :)
[21:15] <Geochr> Congraculation to all teams
[21:16]  * SergioMeneses has work to do!
[21:16] <trinikrono> congrats to all the teams
[21:20] <fefa_> congrats evryone
[21:24] <bkerensa> congrats!
[21:25] <metasansana> congrats \o/