[03:28] <bazhang> hfsplus again
[03:28] <Jordan_U> I didn't know I had ops powers in #ubuntu-irc.
[03:29] <Unit193> You do?
[03:29] <Jordan_U> Well, I'm in the !ops factoid there. Let me check if I actually do.
[03:30] <bazhang> I don't but the emergency ! o p s call is the same as in #ubuntu
[03:30] <Jordan_U> Maybe that should be changed :)
[03:30] <Unit193> Appears my fancy cloak allows me.
[05:11] <sistematico> Any help is welcome on #ubuntu-br
[05:11] <sistematico> JavaNunes is using bad words and insulting others users.
[05:43] <bkerensa> IdleOne: you around?
[06:07] <bkerensa> What do we suggest to users reporting abuse in a loco channel if they have no ops available?
[06:07] <bkerensa> Brazil's loco channel has a guy in there that has been using vulgar profanity in there and trolling it it would appear nobody with ops is around.
[06:13] <Flannel> bkerensa: LoCo channels are -irc, but in case of emergency, that channel has ubuntu/member as operators, so... if it's an emergency, it seems you have the ability to handle it yourself.
[06:13] <bkerensa> kk
[06:13] <Flannel> Just be sure not to step on toes
[06:14] <bkerensa> Flannel: I dont have operator privileges though
[06:14] <bkerensa> thats the issue
[06:14] <bkerensa> in -br
[06:14] <Flannel> -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- 4     *!*@ubuntu/member/*    +Aior (op) [modified 16 weeks, 3 days, 15:21:37 ago]
[06:15] <Flannel> Unless I'm looking at the wrong channel
[06:15] <bkerensa> ahh I see
[06:15] <bkerensa> I was not aware
[06:16] <Flannel> It's alright, the world has enough wares already.
[06:16] <Unit193> Though, I'd recommend staff style, quiet and let channel OPs handle?
[06:17] <Flannel> Unit193: "permanent" quiets are easily forgotten (because the guy is in-channel, just not saying anything, and doesn't get any indication he's muted, etc).  I would just ban and let the ops handle it.
[06:17] <bkerensa> yeah I will idle until an op comes around and let them know why the ban is there and let them handle
[06:17] <Unit193> It does say you are muted if the channel isn't using mode +z, but point taken.
[06:18] <Flannel> bkerensa: That's fine.
[06:18] <Flannel> Just because a channel is +z doesn't mean anyone's listening :)
[06:19] <Unit193> No, but you don't get a note from the IRCd if it is. (People miss it anyway)
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[07:58] <elky> er, crud. wc
[09:00] <dpm> hi all. I would like to change the topic of the #ubuntu-app-devel channel. Could someone help me or make me an operator of that channel? Thanks!
[09:00] <Tm_T> hi David
[09:02] <Tm_T> dpm: looks like jono or IrcCouncil can give you op rights
[09:04] <dpm> thanks Tm_T, I can talk to jono when he's up later on to change the topic for me, but it will take a few hours. Is there anyone from the IrcCouncil around that could give me a hand in the meantime?
[09:06] <Tm_T> AlanBell has been active recently, on now?
[09:10] <AlanBell> o/
[09:14] <dpm> cool, changed the topic now, thanks Tm_T and AlanBell
[15:25] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu ubuntu_64bit been told 4 times by me personally to stop asking me directly for help with gnome-keyring, now pm'ing me telling me my advice to him was bad advice and he fixed it on his own using a different technique than the one I suggested, even though I had not suggested any help and made it clear 4 times I cannot / won't help and to stop contacting me
[16:09] <bazhang> ubuntu_64bit was doing that with numerous helpers.
[17:07] <bazhang> augh
[17:08] <bazhang> he was asked close to half dozen times
[17:15] <bazhang> you'd think someone requesting ubuntu  help could at least spell it correctly
[17:16] <h00k> I don't understand the Puppy Linux references
[17:16] <h00k> are they using Puppy? I may have missed something.
[17:17] <bazhang> puppy gets the proper res, recognizes the monitor, installs the intel drivers. UbuntO does not
[17:17] <h00k> gotcha.
[17:17] <bazhang> the intel drivers bit seems odd
[17:20] <h00k> I feel like it's a big troll, but maybe not :(
[17:21] <bazhang> extremely annoying, at the very least
[17:23] <h00k> It does look like a brazilian IP
[18:18] <Pici> ikonia: was I wrong to say that to ubuntu_64bit?
[18:18] <bazhang> Pici, no
[18:18] <ikonia> no
[18:18] <ikonia> I've had enough of it
[18:18] <Pici> guess not
[18:18] <bazhang> look at what he had to say to sacarlson earlier in the logs
[18:18] <bazhang> very abusive
[18:18] <ikonia> I've made it clear 6 times now I cannot/will not help and to stop asking me directly to help
[18:19] <ikonia> he's clearly doing it to try to provoke
[18:19] <ikonia> I'll remove the ban later when he's got bored
[18:19] <tonyyarusso> bazhang: You mean utnubu?
[18:19] <tonyyarusso> Ubanto?
[18:19] <bazhang> tonyyarusso, ubuntu_64bit
[18:19] <Pici> bazhang: how long ago?
[18:20] <tonyyarusso> I was referring to the spelling comment
[18:20] <bazhang> Pici, right before I left for work, so about 8 hrs ago
[18:20] <Pici> k
[18:20] <bazhang> tonyyarusso, that was ubunto_request_hel
[18:24] <ikonia> as soon as I pm'd ubuntu_64bit he signed off freenode
[18:24] <ikonia> so I suspect he was just trying to be a problem
[18:24] <bazhang> he was doing that numerous users
[18:24] <bazhang> +to
[18:24] <ikonia> yes
[18:32] <bazhang> * mcloy (~mcloy@175.110.74.19) has joined #ubuntu
[18:32] <bazhang> then left
[18:32] <bazhang> thought he was still banned
[18:33] <bioterror> check banlist?
[18:33] <bazhang> just checked the backscroll from earlier
[18:35] <Unit193> Thought it was an account ban, and *maybe* one IP?
[18:37] <bazhang> ubuntu_64bit ban dodging
[18:41] <bkerensa> bazhang: what are we doing about him?
[18:42] <bazhang> bkerensa, I have him in PM, trying to get him to join here to resolve
[18:42] <bkerensa> k
[18:43] <bazhang> bkerensa, apologies for not getting your PM earlier
[18:43] <bkerensa> ahh its ok
[18:44] <bazhang> I have had +g on of late as some very nasty PM are coming my way
[18:44] <bkerensa> kk
[18:50] <bazhang> well he exited #ubuntu briefly, then reset IP and is back now
[18:56] <ikonia> bazhang: mcloy is account banned he had not identified
[18:57] <bazhang> ikonia, ok. the last was referring to ubuntu_64bit
[18:57] <ikonia> ahh sorry
[18:57] <ikonia> I assume you are speaking to him then (that wasn't mcloy you where talking about)
[18:59] <bazhang> yep. trying to convince him to join here to resolve (ubuntu_64bit) instead of ban dodging
[18:59] <bazhang> mccloy I did not bother
[19:02] <ikonia> understood
[20:46] <ikonia> 21:45 < Duality> what does :(){ :|:& };: do?
[20:46] <ikonia> fork bomb ?
[20:46] <Fuchs> yes
[20:46] <Pici> yes
[20:46] <Fuchs> declares a function called :, calles it, passes it's output to another instance of itself, backgrounds that, repeats.
[20:47] <ikonia> let me look at that
[20:47] <ikonia> got it
[20:49] <Fuchs> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb  << has it as an example, it's one of the most common, so maybe the user didn't have any malicious intends (but of course still no good idea to post it in a public channel)
[20:49] <ikonia> I suspect he did
[20:50] <Duality> hi
[20:50] <ikonia> hi Duality
[20:50] <Duality> i been kicked/banned from #ubuntu because i posted something i shouldn't have.. ?
[20:50] <Duality> my friend said i should, and i didn't trust, and asked
[20:50] <ikonia> Duality: who told you to post that command in #ubuntu ?
[20:50] <ikonia> really, a friend told you to do it, so you joined #ubuntu to ask about it
[20:50] <Duality> me i wanted to know what it was!
[20:51] <Duality> i didn't know it was bad!
[20:51] <Duality> (i am at a hackerspace, would that help explain stuff?)
[20:51] <ikonia> not really
[20:51] <Duality> ok
[20:51] <ikonia> and to be honest, you should know better
[20:52] <ikonia> if you're at hacker space than to take something someone gives you and post it into a channel full of 1400+ linux users of different experience levels
[20:53] <Duality> ikonia, i now see yea shouldn't have, but i did not really know what it did, and asked. :( i understand if you do not unbann me
[20:53] <ikonia> you're not banned
[20:53] <Duality> ikonia, lol, i feel really bad now :(
[20:53] <ikonia> but to be honest, I don't believe you, if you are sat at a hacker conference, someone tells you to do something, you know it's bad (hence why you didn't do it yourself) and you take the effort to join the largest channel on freenode and post it to 1400+ users.....I think you know what you are doing
[20:54] <Duality> ikonia, i am a newb to linux myself, my friend said you know you could fix this by typing this ... :S
[20:54] <ikonia> either way, you're not banned and myself and the other operator team will watch your contribution to the channel going forward
[20:54] <ikonia> Duality: yet you didn't type it
[20:54] <Duality> ikonia, i understand
[20:54] <ikonia> Duality: suggesting you knew it was bad, put you did take the effort to post it to 1400+ people
[20:55] <Duality> no i did not know
[20:55] <ikonia> Duality: then why did you not try it yourself ?
[20:55] <ikonia> a friend gave you advice and you ignored it ?
[20:55] <Duality> yea well he had a weird smile on his face
[20:55] <ikonia> so you suspected it may be bad
[20:55] <ikonia> took the effort to join the biggest channel on freenode and post it to users
[20:55] <ikonia> nice job
[20:56] <Duality> yes, i recognice i did something wrong and learned from it, and now kinda feel bad after i learned what it was :(
[20:56] <ikonia> well, to make it clear, I don't believe you at all, but I've got to take you at face value, so you're not banned and welcome to rejoin #ubuntu
[20:58] <Duality> ikonia, nothing like this will ever happen again! i came here to explain myself, and say i learned from what i did, and to apologize, and realize that what i did was pretty wrong
[20:58] <ikonia> understood, thank you
[20:59] <Duality> again sorry :(
[20:59] <ikonia> ok, thank you
[21:47] <ikonia> best of luck Fuchs
[21:48] <Fuchs> ikonia: I'll send you the bill ;)
[21:48] <ikonia> I will take that, I do owe you one, he's nuts