[00:08] <rick_h_> woot! it worked! 120GB of more space just by popping off the keyboard
[00:12] <rick_h_> hah, iotop showing 80-90M/s write wheee
[00:13] <snap-l> rick_h_: Awesome.
[00:23] <rick_h_> man, a long time since I edited an fstab
[02:03] <brousch> kicking the MBP to the curb. I couldn't get it working with the projector tonight
[02:04] <Blazeix> under mac os or linux?
[02:04] <brousch> linux
[02:05] <Blazeix> using xrandr? i'm thinking about buying the new macbook pro.
[02:05] <Blazeix> so i want to hear everybody's complaints :)
[02:06] <rick_h_> if it's an older nvidia it doesn't support xrandr I thought.
[02:06] <brousch> I tried built in monitor settings and nvidia, but neither would see the projector
[02:07] <brousch> I can't trust it, so it is no good to me
[02:08] <brousch> Blazeix: I would not count on Linux running 100% on Apple hardware
[02:08] <brousch> Had to use extra drivers and a PPA
[02:09] <brousch> And this one is 3 years old. I imagine it's worse for newer models
[02:10] <snap-l> Blazeix: I'd try it, and know that Macs have great resale
[02:10] <Blazeix> yeah, i know i'm in for some pain
[02:11] <Blazeix> i think i'm going to let one of my friends guinea pig it first
[02:12] <brousch> Also, are you a nipple man?
[02:12] <Blazeix> you know it
[02:12] <Blazeix> that's going to be a tough adjustment
[02:12] <brousch> Takes a lot of getting used to
[02:13] <Blazeix> though i do have a nice wireless mouse that i carry around
[02:13] <Blazeix> so i might use that as a crutch
[02:17] <brousch> I put the SSD back into the Dell, and it all still works, again
[02:17] <brousch> Freakish
[02:41] <brousch> I missed my nipple, delete key, and function keys without having to hold down funct
[10:39] <snap-l> "brousch: I missed my nipple," <- Yes, I'm 12, and I snickered.
[10:54] <snap-l> Getting the itch to move things in the den again
[10:55] <snap-l> Thinking I can make some more "space" by moving the file cabinet where the printer rests.
[10:55] <snap-l> Of course, this revalation made itself apparent _after_ I bought a 15ft cable for it
[11:06] <rick_h_> moving time!
[11:28] <snap-l> jcastro: Got the Fan Pack for Rush's Clockwork Angels yesterday
[12:27] <rick_h_> ubuntu porta-john? http://goo.gl/GcPI2
[12:33] <shakes808> Good moring
[12:33] <shakes808> morning
[12:37] <nullspace> rick_h_: be human to others and light a match
[12:40] <nullspace> oh wait it's a cluster
[12:50] <rick_h_> yea
[12:58] <shakes808> I will be MIA tomorrow for CHC, I have my son this week and have to pick him up from the babysitter's
[12:58] <rick_h_> party on sir!
[12:59] <shakes808> and btw, happy fasha's day to all the fasha's in the room!
[13:18] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:20] <snap-l> Wow, those pandaboards aren't that expensive, but when you add up 96 of them, that's 16704.00 (if you bought them from digikey)
[13:20] <snap-l> And you'd have to find another retailer, because they only have 20 in stock
[13:21] <snap-l> Ah, my bad, they only have 48 boards
[13:21] <snap-l> so it's only 8352
[13:24] <rick_h_> yea, somewhere somone filed a grant and paid for them all
[13:24] <rick_h_> _stink_: you get anywhere with your issue yesterday? Never heard back
[13:25] <snap-l> My problem would be finding interesting problems for it
[13:25] <rick_h_> flac conversions can only go on so long :)
[13:25] <snap-l> run benchmarks is not exactly earth-shattering
[13:25] <rick_h_> but but but...it's solar!
[13:25] <snap-l> That part is intriguing
[13:25] <rick_h_> turn it into a single webserver for openmetalcast
[13:26] <snap-l> especially in Michigan. ;)
[13:26] <snap-l> rick_h_: Hah. :)
[13:26] <rick_h_> lol https://twitter.com/tylercoan/status/215058385136140289/photo/1
[13:26] <snap-l> "Honey, I need to run a hadoop cluster so I can find out how many people aren't listening to my podcast"
[13:27] <brousch> snap-l: Your wife is an astronomer, correct? I'm sure she has a lot of interesting problems it could crunch on.
[13:27] <shakes808> snap-l: what panda boards are you talking about?
[13:27] <snap-l> brousch: Oh, definitely. But she's not quite there yet.
[13:28] <snap-l> shakes808: http://goo.gl/GcPI2
[13:28] <snap-l> rick_h_: That picture is stupid
[13:28] <snap-l> Everyone knows tablets sucked before Apple did them. ;)
[13:30] <snap-l> http://codeinthehole.com/writing/a-data-migration-for-every-django-project/ <- Finally, a Django data migration that doesn't begin with "DROP DATABASE foo"
[13:33] <rick_h_> started using alembic for bookie, likey!
[13:33] <rick_h_> fixes a big issue with sqlalchemy-migration, you can use it with git
[13:33] <nixternal> snap-l: no, everyone knows tablets sucked before samsung, motorola, and asus did them (thank you android!)
[13:34] <snap-l> pthhhpt
[13:34] <nixternal> haha
[13:34] <nixternal> i will agree though, apple did make the tablet hip again
[13:34] <nixternal> though, a totally different tablet. not the tablets from years ago with windows xp on them. those things were awful
[13:35] <snap-l> nixternal: point/ match
[13:36] <nixternal> that might be the only thing i understand from tennis, so don't do that again :p
[13:39] <snap-l> nixternal: You're one up on me. ;)
[13:42] <nixternal> see, i thought that meant something different, so i didn't even understand that. only thing close to tennis that i play is beer pong :D
[13:42] <brousch> No, he's 15-love on you
[13:43] <nixternal> oh shit, here we go
[13:44] <brousch> barbarians
[13:45] <nixternal> haha
[13:48] <brousch> I would make a deuce pun, but you would turn it into a poop joke
[13:48] <nixternal> to late
[14:01] <_stink_> rick_h_: i ended up throwing in a span that on('click') does button.fire('click').  this will have to do for now because i am up against some deadlines for functionality.  but i will come back to it in a few weeks and bug you/others again :)
[14:01] <rick_h_> _stink_: yea, make it out to CHC sometime and we can refactor it up
[14:01] <_stink_> thank you sir
[14:02] <rick_h_> sounds like some <3 if you've got model stuff doing UI stuff
[14:03] <_stink_> yeah.  it's get it done time.  i have until end June for a project that really should be about 3 months
[14:03] <rick_h_> yea, gotcha, been there
[14:03] <_stink_> and our ability to campaign to prospects depends on it.
[14:04] <rick_h_> cool
[14:08] <jrwren> that solar cluster looks awesome. I'd like to see how they did the power. DC-DC or did they go DC-AC-DC?
[14:51] <rick_h_> krondor: hey, thanks for the suggestion on the yubikey lastpass stuff
[14:51] <rick_h_> ended up having to get a new key, but cool stuff now
[14:53] <brousch> Is lastpass free?
[14:53] <rick_h_> yea, but you have to pay for the 2-factor. Think it was something liek $12 for the year
[14:54] <brousch> Unconscionable! Everything should be free!
[14:54] <krondor> rick_h_:  no problem, does it work with NFC on your phone?
[14:54] <rick_h_> krondor: oh, no not sure how that'd work. I'd need a NFC on the laptop then right
[14:55] <krondor> no you'd need the lastpass droid app to be smart enough to do nfc
[14:55] <krondor> or nfc on the laptop too I spose
[14:57] <krondor> it's supposed to work I think, which would be neat; http://blog.lastpass.com/2012/03/introducing-lastpass-mobile-support-for.html
[14:58] <rick_h_> oh, I don't have one of those yubikeys, but a nano
[14:58] <rick_h_> http://www.yubico.com/yubikey-nano
[14:59] <krondor> ah ok thought you had the NFC yubi, still nice to have two factor :)
[15:00] <rick_h_> yea, when I launch chrome it pops up my 2-factor inptu box, touch the button, and done passwords automatic from there on out
[15:00] <rick_h_> ooh, this is kind of sweet for locking down on the phone.
[15:02] <krondor> brousch:  you don't have to pay for google authenticator two factor, but you do have to pay for yubikey and the mobile app
[15:02] <rick_h_> yea, I just use the heck out of the chrome extension, so it adds another layer of security on top of that for me
[15:03] <rick_h_> since I use the yubikey for work already, it's not like it's a new/additional device/etc to deal with
[16:03] <snap-l> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement/
[16:03] <snap-l> Oh well
[16:05] <brousch> My inside source has mentioned that they are a PITA
[16:05] <snap-l> brousch: They were a PITA when I was an inside source.
[16:06] <brousch> I think wordpress got hacked and spammed people
[16:07] <greg-g> wow, sourceforge is just jettisening a ton, eh?
[16:08] <brousch> Keeping all of those crufty PHP apps up to date is a hassle
[16:09] <brousch> Especially if they're bleeding developers
[16:09] <jrwren> i don't understand their revenue model? ads ?
[16:09] <snap-l> Not if, because
[16:10] <brousch> jrwren: Yes
[16:10] <brousch> On the download pages
[16:12] <snap-l> I'm about ready to pull my piddly-fart projects off of sf.net and put them up on github
[16:13] <snap-l> Or put up a gitorious instance for them.
[16:14] <jrwren> github please.
[16:14]  * rick_h_ feels obligated to say launchpad...but stops
[16:14] <brousch> snap-l: I put my most recent project on GitHub :(
[16:14] <jrwren> why :( ?
[16:15] <jrwren> github is excellent.
[16:15] <rick_h_> why sadface?
[16:15] <brousch> Because a friend works at SF
[16:15] <rick_h_> ah, right. When's Dave getting out?
[16:16] <jrwren> maybe dave should go work for github :)
[16:16] <brousch> I don't know. Haven't seen him in a while
[16:16] <brousch> I think he's been bumped up to Ramm's former job
[16:17] <rick_h_> oh, good stuff...?
[16:17] <brousch> No. It is less coding, more managing
[16:17] <rick_h_> ugh, never mind
[16:17] <brousch> right
[16:18] <_stink_> heh, i just went through the exercise of backing up my one project on SF... the backup tool gave me 500 errors.
[16:18] <rick_h_> woo!
[16:19] <rick_h_> backup == git clone ...
[16:19] <brousch> That's a lot of errors
[16:19] <rick_h_> then, git remove remote origin && git add remote origin git@github... && git push -u origin master
[16:20] <rick_h_> jrwren: what was your ssh-agent reset thing?
[16:20] <rick_h_> my .xsessionrc seems to get skipped or have a race condition so that every few boots I don't get it
[16:20] <_stink_> yeah, i just wanted to see if it works.
[16:20] <_stink_> it doesn't.
[16:20] <rick_h_> ah, well good to know I suppose
[16:24] <jrwren> appended to my PROMPT_COMMAND: export SSH_AUTH_SOCK=`find /tmp/ssh*  -type s -printf "%T+ %p\n" 2>/dev/null | head -1 | cut -f 2 -d " "`
[16:27] <snap-l> Funny to see all of the former SFers on github as well
[16:30] <jrwren> oh?
[16:32] <snap-l> Nate Oostendorp is developing SimpleCV on github
[16:33] <snap-l> Several other names I've seen are on there.
[16:33] <brousch> Heh
[16:33] <snap-l> Work-related, perhaps.
[16:33] <brousch> Well if you want people to contribute, I think you have to be on github
[16:34] <snap-l> Yeah, and if you want download mirroring, SF.net is probably the way to go
[16:35] <snap-l> I think too the sponsored bullshit sites like SlashBI and their HTML5 site (along with the just discovered goparallel site) are big turn-offs
[16:37] <brousch> heh, goparallel
[16:37] <brousch> slurping projects from other places
[16:39] <snap-l> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/zfg0PrWKDDOO2NaEmaVv/ <- Read the link at the bottom, and see what it might spell backward. ;)
[16:39] <rick_h_> +        self.assertEqual([dict(foo='bar')], calls)
[16:39] <rick_h_> oops
[16:39] <_stink_> snap-l: haha
[17:45] <rick_h_> man, IE9 has this awful UI aroud the url bar/tabs
[17:46] <brousch> It's called "Windows"
[17:50] <greg-g> brousch: are you a professional zinger?
[17:50] <greg-g> or should that be "zing!er"
[17:51] <brousch> Is that a profession?
[17:51] <greg-g> well, you seem to do it all day, so I firgured...
[17:52] <rick_h_> practice practice practice!
[18:31] <rick_h_> kind of cool http://arc.clients.sightmachine.com/
[18:34] <brousch> simplecv?
[18:34] <rick_h_> yea, looks like the webui they're building around their product
[18:34] <rick_h_> example of a fish tank there with some feeding going on
[18:35] <rick_h_> https://twitter.com/kscottz/status/215144106433855491
[18:35] <rick_h_> zoom ftw
[18:37] <brousch> eh?
[18:37] <rick_h_> got the url by zooming into the photo she posted
[18:37] <brousch> ah
[19:38] <snap-l> Argh. Packt is having a game programming sale, but it doesn't cover the one book that I was interested in: Irrlicht
[19:38] <snap-l> http://www.packtpub.com/news/learn-games-programming-offer
[19:38] <brousch> snap-l: complain to them
[20:07] <derekv2> I have a server I need to start, it has no automatic startup script
[20:07] <derekv2> so i want to make an upstart config for it I think
[20:09] <derekv2> the manual startup process is it ( beleive it or not ) run one script, wait until startup succeeds, which you verify by running a second script and look to see all the processes say 'Okay' in the output of this script, then run a third script
[20:09] <jrwren> sounds terrible.
[20:09] <jrwren> fix that part first :)
[20:09] <brousch> Professional grade software there
[20:09] <derekv2> java developers...
[20:10] <greg-g> hilarious
[20:10] <greg-g> sound like something I would do
[20:10] <brousch> But you wouldn't give/sell it to someone else in that state
[20:10] <derekv2> these guys like to write pages of user documentation about workarounds for shit they could have spent that time fixing
[20:11] <greg-g> sounds like you have some good doc writers on staff but no developers
[20:13] <derekv2> their temporary license expired today which i fixed by setting the system clock back
[20:13] <derekv2> sudo date --set="yesterday"
[20:13] <greg-g> oh lord
[20:13] <brousch> So you're paying for this monstrosity?
[20:14] <derekv2> well... working with it
[20:15] <derekv2> the shutdown process is even more fun
[20:15] <derekv2> it has you run ps and look for processes and kill them
[20:15] <derekv2> after you run the shutdown script
[20:15] <brousch> killall -9 java
[20:15] <derekv2> because if you don't and there's some still running it'll fail to restart
[20:16] <greg-g> "here, please kill our shit for us, we don't know how to stop what we started. thanks for  the money, sucker!"
[20:16] <brousch> "we don't know how to stop what we started" made me lol
[20:16] <derekv2> once you let that java process out of the bottle
[20:23] <jrwren> java runs the enterprise.
[20:24] <jrwren> i blame this for the colapse of the internet bubble.
[20:26] <derekv2> enterprise is always going to do stuff in the most ridiculous, self hating way in order to justify its own bloat
[20:26] <snap-l> I wrote something for our solr instances at sf.net
[20:27] <snap-l> Java is pretty awful when it comes to behaving like a real program
[20:27] <derekv2> enterprise is about the game of making things cost more money while making it look like your saving money
[20:27] <snap-l> especially if you put in something like Tomcat, because the Tomcat server forks itself and returns control to the shell
[20:28] <snap-l> so you have NFC if it started, crashed, or decided to join the circus
[21:30] <derekv2> exactly the issue
[21:31] <derekv2> i hate tomcat
[21:31] <derekv2> also this thing takes literally like 5 minutes to start up
[21:31] <derekv2> how do you develop against something like that?
[21:32] <derekv2> leave the punch cards with the operator and collect a stack of paper in the morning
[21:32]  * rick_h_ holds back smart-alec answer
[21:38] <snap-l> derekv2: I feel your pain