=== SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [06:36] morning SmilyBorg :-) [06:36] o/ [06:36] Hey there :-) [06:40] morning superfly SmilyBorg tumbleweed and all [06:40] nice to have you home tumbleweed [06:40] hey Kilos [06:42] môre oom Kilos [06:43] hi psydroid [06:52] hi Kilos [06:52] hi superfly [06:52] Greetings [06:54] yo dLimit [06:54] you been quiet hey [06:55] Yeah Kilos studying.. Bad for ones social life [06:55] But I'm trying Ubuntu precise today [06:56] thats good [06:56] Thought I'd hate it but its actually freaking awesome [06:56] morning [06:56] tumbleweed: greets [06:57] Not going to give mah gentoo and openbox for it but they did a very good job with it. Even unity doesn't suck that much anymore. [06:57] sounds good dLimit [06:57] hi psydroid, dLimit, tumbleweed [06:58] superfly: Hi. [06:58] So how are you doing Kilos ? [06:58] im good ty dLimit , still on maverick [07:01] I would have still been on karmic if my connection still sucked.. [07:02] hehe [07:02] Karmic was the last best. [07:02] From lucin on everything changed [07:02] lucid* [07:02] na maverick is better [07:04] I dunno, I find 12.04 to be better than ever... oh wait, I'm using KDE :-P [07:04] rofl [07:05] Lol I want to get back onto the KDE bus again.. [07:05] no release chat would be complete without that remark poppin up [07:05] superfly, kubuntu is not available from canonical is it? [07:06] Kilos: I don't know what you mean [07:06] as in do they still supply the cd's? [07:06] morning [07:07] sure i read somewhere they dropping kde [07:07] yo Squirm [07:08] Kilos: Canonical is no longer employing the one person they used to for Kubuntu, so no, Kubuntu is no longer an official, Canonical-endorsed Ubuntu derivative... it now officially joins the ranks of Lubuntu and Xubuntu [07:08] aha [07:08] Which is interesting, since the biggest deployment of desktop Linux that Canonical has done so far is a Kubuntu deployment [07:09] Unity is for consumers... businesses want KDE [07:10] hi NeVeR_ [07:13] and I want Gnome 2 :/ [07:13] Squirm, did you try precise unity? [07:14] hi charl [07:14] no [07:14] but then again, I'm not using Ubuntu [07:14] dLimit, says its awesome [07:14] haven't used it since Unity started [07:15] I like the dashboard with the video's [07:18] well if you have time and no data cap Squirm give it a try [07:19] old saying [07:19] dont knock it till youve tried it [07:22] Still not switching tho. [07:22] morning sflr [07:23] morning guys! [07:23] sflr [07:26] morning sflr [07:26] sflr: if you can, a real IRC client is much better than the web chat interface [07:26] hi superfly! [07:27] irssi [07:27] xchat quassel [07:27] I use xchat from home. at the office it is blocked :) [07:27] Or even telnetting would be better [07:27] if you're a command line junkie [07:27] sflr: you have port 80 open though? [07:27] (HTTP) [07:28] yes, some ports are open [07:28] haha, i must try telnet dLimit :) [07:29] sflr: you can try port 8000 too [07:30] alright im out cheers [07:32] I try that now [07:32] any specific server? [07:33] chat.freenode.net [07:33] .:Kilos:. dont knock it till youve tried it <<-- Not knocking it, I just said I prefer Gnome 2 [07:34] hehe [07:34] it says /connect is unknown command. is there alternative? [07:35] sflr: what are you using? [07:35] xchat-gnome [07:36] can llok in mine if it might help sflr [07:37] look [07:37] sflr: ask Kilos [07:37] Kilos, where do you change the server and port in Xchat? cant find it anywhere [07:37] where are you in xchat now sflr [07:37] in the first little window that opens [07:37] select freenode [07:38] I just opened it [07:38] under networks [07:38] scroll down [07:38] ok [07:38] once selected tick edit [07:38] on the right [07:39] add favourite channels [07:39] wait. i dont have edit option. only Connect and Close [07:39] mine shows irc.freenode.net/8001 [07:40] on the right side [07:40] not bottom [07:40] first needs to connect then. it seems port 8000 also blocked. not connecting. [07:40] should show add, remove, edit and sort buttons [07:41] I stick to the webchat for now :) need to get productive [07:41] no before connecting [07:41] ok ping me when you have time sflr [07:46] Kilos: screenshot of connect window http://i50.tinypic.com/2ymfuwo.png on Ubuntu 12.04, Xchat Gnome version 0.3.0 [07:46] ok i will look quick [07:47] something wrong there should show buttons on the right as well [07:48] can you drag the right side open more [07:48] sflr, ? [07:49] and dont tick the little network list block [07:50] its a modal popup , nothing on the right. and no tick. lol [07:51] close it and look the first window again where you put nicks [07:52] sflr: you need to find this window, and edit the Freenode entry: http://xchat.org/files/screenshots/xchat_screen_2.png [07:52] I think you need to close the connection window, and then go to Edit -> Preferences [07:53] (why is the preferences option in the edit menu? Gnome is seriously almost as bad as Apple) [07:53] thanks, found it in preferences :) [07:53] screenshot can tell 999 words [07:58] superfly, whats that image link againplse [07:59] http://xchat.org/files/screenshots/xchat_screen_2.png [07:59] that xchat isnt working right [07:59] no , the one where i send me screenshot [07:59] oh [07:59] imageshack was it [07:59] oh [07:59] yes... http://imageshack.us/ [08:00] ty [08:02] sflr, should look like this [08:02] http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img836/5238/screenshotny.png [08:02] excuse the messy desktop [08:03] aw thats a bad screenshot, half missing [08:06] lost lots when pc crashed, need to find imageshack info [08:07] thanks Kilos, its ok for now. No time for me to fiddle around with it. The ports are blocked and need to hit the meeting rooms now :S [08:07] ok sflr i will try get all the info for when you have time === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero [08:30] can you guys see all the buttons in the xchat windows on this screenshot guys [08:30] http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img826/2671/screenshothgv.png [08:30] Kilos: remember that there are two different versions of xchat as well [08:30] good morning BTW [08:30] * inetpro is not sure which one you recommend [08:31] oh ya he mustnt use xchat-gnome [08:31] that sucks [08:31] hi inetpro [08:31] is my take screenshot function sick? [08:45] http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img259/144/screenshotlr.png [08:45] had to take screenshot 4 times [08:49] inetpro, when he says ports are blocked. where are they blocked [08:54] at work or online [08:54] Kilos: at work [08:55] ah ty superfly [08:55] i dunno how to get around that [08:56] Kilos: find another port [08:57] oh he should be able to do that [08:57] im lost with that stuff [09:01] will i need to study up on routers to be able to understand that better? [09:03] hi Kilos [09:03] what seems to be the problem? [09:04] are you trying to connect to port 8001 ? [09:06] im good ty charl its steven that has prob with xchat [09:07] but he is busy now [09:08] if he knows how to find another port at work he should win [09:16] ah ok cool [09:17] i never use the xchat list - i always just type /server and then manually specify [09:17] and then connect to the default 6667 port [09:17] i have had similar issues in the past [09:18] ah then maybe you can help him when he gets back. but first i think he should remove xchat-gnome and install xchat [09:18] maybe its me but the gnome xchat kinda sucks === charl_ is now known as charl [10:11] sjoe I'm sure ZA's internet is getting worse [10:12] Yeah I got 30kbps right now [10:13] Suppose to be a 1meg line [10:13] ouch thats worse than gprs [10:16] Its hardly even dialup [10:19] so who is the culprit? telcom? [10:21] dunno. [10:21] could be [10:27] :| [10:27] my internet is chugging today ;( [10:29] i am pretty convinced they are trying to get people to upgrade to more expensive packages [10:29] by just progressively making the cheaper packages slower [10:30] yeah typical [10:35] rofl.. I have a 10mbit line with a 4mbit uncapped unshaped account, and its extremely slow :( [10:35] even switched to my free fnb account to see if its just the account [10:35] isp* === RPM is now known as NeVeR_ [10:37] they will say there are too many peeps working at the moment. Please be patient [10:40] at least maaz hasnt slowed down [10:40] Ping reply from Maaz: 0.57 second(s) [10:41] Maaz, i love you [10:41] Kilos Don't embarrass youself. You aren't a cyber chick [10:41] cheeky bot [10:55] Maaz, you are cool [10:55] NeVeR_: I already know stuff about you [10:57] haha [10:58] :| [10:58] Maaz se .... [10:58] NeVeR_: Excuse me? [10:58] Maaz is tripping [10:59] he is struggling to find an answer for that [10:59] lol [11:00] nuvolari, you need to get a stronger chair for the next meeting [11:00] last one fell over too easily [11:25] hiya maiatoday [11:26] hi Kilos [11:34] hi maiatoday [11:35] hi charl [11:39] hi maiatoday [11:40] hi superfly [11:45] hi maiatoday [11:45] http://capetown-westerncape.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-cars-2008-Nissan-1400-bakkie-W0QQAdIdZ384038660 [11:46] bleargh [12:25] I have a Quantal Quetzal male small T-shirt if anyone wants it. Let me know [12:55] nearly like net splits i see [12:56] Maaz, coffee on [12:56] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [12:56] inetpro, quick coffee before you start working [12:56] hehe [12:58] yoyoyo! [12:59] wb sflr [12:59] hi Kilos! [12:59] remove xchat-gnome and install xchat [13:00] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [13:00] Maaz, ty [13:01] You are welcome Kilos [13:01] thanks Kilos, I will give a try later. I am starting an online meeting now in Google Hangouts [13:01] Kilos: what was that? [13:01] oh you said coffee? [13:02] * inetpro goes to switch on the kettle [13:02] lol [13:03] hey inetpro [13:04] sflr: . [13:04] raisin? lol [13:05] :-) [13:07] https://plus.google.com/101962591714399883882 <-- sflr: is that you? [13:08] i dont know. steven.scheffler@gmail.com [13:13] google plus should introduce friendly URLs. hehe [13:20] interesting surname [13:21] Kerbero? :) [14:34] * Kilos wonders if there is any meaning in a sheeps sounds, other than a lamb screaming [14:34] maaaaaaaa [14:35] and the ewe answering [14:35] jaaaaaaa [14:36] scared to tweet that, someone will call me a twit [15:02] yo Mezenir [15:07] Kilos: voel 'n bietjie eensaam? [15:07] (alone) [15:08] * superfly is not sure if his afrikaans is still up to scratch [15:08] ha ha ha [15:09] dit was reg gewees [15:09] Kilos: what's the story with your visa now? [15:09] i have it superfly [15:09] Kilos: so why aren't you in australia? [15:10] they said it took so long because of bad communication between here and perth i think it was [15:10] ah [15:10] eish [15:10] finances [15:10] Aaah [15:11] As ek die geld gehad het, oom... [15:11] debs has had a bad run for a year with that ankylosing spondilitis and sacroiliitus so mad bills crippled her [15:12] ek weet my vriend [15:12] Shame [15:12] sal miskien sien of ek mark kan email een van die dae [15:12] ASAP means nothing in Cape Town. #liveandlearn [15:13] Hahaha sflr, what's the story? [15:14] waiting for some documents since 1pm. i was promised that will be sent ASAP. which i thought will take around 30 minutes. hehe [15:14] Heh. [15:14] it was a matter of attach and email. lol [15:14] haha [15:16] superfly, maybe i need someone to hack quantas and print me a ticket [15:17] hehe... You need an inside contact [15:20] hey kilos [15:20] hey all [15:20] Yo Mezenir [15:21] hey superfly [15:21] howsit going [15:21] A!right, just on the journey home [15:25] hi Mezenir [15:35] hi sflr [15:35] mmm [15:35] lol [16:40] superfly: did those lights come on again? [16:42] inetpro: they did, and the train left too... I'm home safe and sound [16:42] cool [17:16] yo smile [17:17] hi! :D [17:17] installed ubuntu :) [17:17] instead of linux mint debian [17:17] well I NeVeR_ [17:17] good [17:17] :o [17:17] why never? :p [17:17] teasing NeVeR_ [17:17] oh. :p [17:17] smile: how do you like it? [17:18] I like it, but it could be better even more :p [17:18] for example booting screen hangs [17:18] yeah... that's why I use KDE :-P [17:18] [the graphics] [17:20] smile, unity? [17:20] Kilos: jap. only switching between apps I don't like [17:20] jap? [17:20] jap = yeah [17:20] :p [17:21] belgian ;) [17:21] japanese [17:21] oh language [17:21] :D [17:21] Belgian-Dutch :) [17:21] aha [17:22] yo charl [17:22] Kilos: have you slept wel? :) [17:23] lol last night? [17:23] hi Kilos [17:23] I use Ubuntu 12. 32-bit, as 64-bit fries my laptop [17:23] hi smile [17:23] hi sflr [17:23] hey charl [17:23] that's weird, how so? [17:23] charl: hi! :D [17:23] sflr: what type of chipset are you using [17:24] sflr: well I use 64 bit and livecd worked fine, but install is failing more :( [17:24] its Dell Latitude [17:24] sflr: ok :D [17:24] i'm using a 6-year old fujitsu siemens that is literally falling apart [17:24] the fan just goes on and the side really gets hot. keep my coffee next to it. then its like that for 5 minutes. then machine switches off. Boom! [17:24] and i can run 64-bit ubuntu without any problems [17:24] 64bit isnt as stable methinks [17:24] ian also had probs [17:24] sflr: boom. :p [17:24] nah 64bit is perfectly stable by now [17:25] sflr: can't say i have ever had that issue or heard of anyone with that issue, definitely something weird that's specific to your model [17:25] then I checked and Dell 'recommends' 32-bit ubuntu.lol [17:25] ah ok well... something is clearly up then [17:25] lol, they don't like 64 bit :p [17:25] yes, it must be model. same happens to 3 other laptops at the office [17:26] yeah definitely something up then with that one [17:26] time to upgrade I think. we cant work with burning hardware. haha [17:26] lol [17:26] no that sucks [17:26] lol [17:26] thing is you can't address more than 4GB of ram and you waste a bunch of registers [17:26] don't know if you work with virtualisation much or heavy-weight oracle solutions but 4GB of ram is not enough anymore [17:26] we will give it to windows users [17:27] isnt the 64bit just heavier so you need faster pc and more ram than with 32bit [17:27] i need more than that just for a virtual machine i use for development with some oracle stuff [17:27] Kilos: the instructions are larger but you don't need a faster pc for it [17:27] whew 4 g ram [17:27] VM server or desktop instance? [17:27] we always should compare 32 & 64 bit :) [17:27] sflr: desktop even [17:27] no obviously you need more for servers [17:27] yeah, was just checking [17:28] we are setting up private cloud now [17:28] infrastructure team very sceptical.hehe [17:28] nice, which technology is it based on (if i am allowed to ask, no prob if not) [17:29] we are benchmarking different ones currently. [17:29] its for a distributed data center architecture. nothing fits so far [17:30] Amazon moved to Gardens in Cape Town. new fancy offices. [17:30] amazon? interesting [17:31] http://www.amazon.co.za/ [17:31] you mean that? [17:31] yes, AWS [17:31] nice [17:32] apparently they are hiring lots of peeps suddenly [17:32] hold on a second [17:32] http://www.amazon.co.za/jobs.htm [17:32] there is a company that somebody i know works at [17:32] they are also partly based in cape town and partly in san francisco [17:32] lemme look up the name and see if i can find it [17:32] they used to / are doing work for amazon [17:33] ok. cloud fluffs? [17:34] these people: http://nimbula.com/ [17:34] afaik cocooncrash also works there [17:35] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbula [17:39] i'm sure most of you didn't realise that amazon ec2 was created by two south africans [17:39] at least led up by [17:40] yes, there are some technical docs on the VM somewhere [17:40] we use some ec2 stuff [17:41] Nimbula sounds familiar [17:41] ohi [17:42] it was launched this year, I think I read it in the news then :) [17:42] hi cocooncrash [17:43] afaik nimbula has been going for quite some time [17:43] sflr: First release was a year ago actually :) [17:43] i have not been following the news [17:43] but russell cloran started working for them a long time ago [17:43] yes, sorry. 2011. i am stuck in that year [17:43] i was applying for his old job at the time, that was back at naspers search engine [17:44] ended up not taking the job, might as well because they cut the whole project 2 months later [17:44] is it public or private cloud? and which areas in the world are the datacenters? [17:44] naspers search engine? google competitor? [17:44] hi cocooncrash [17:45] sflr: It's software, not a service, so we don't run datacentres [17:46] thanks cocooncrash, i read up on the site before ask more stupido questions =) [17:46] sflr: this is ancient history now but naspers were building their own search engine [17:46] sflr: they actually had a nice thing going but they decided to cut the whole project [17:47] sflr: the biggest problem really was that they couldn't get the darn thing to scale, even though they had some feature advantages above google at the time [17:47] bummer :( [17:47] sflr: but two months later they had a massive corporate restructuring and decided to cut the whole project and move to google [17:47] sjoe. architecture problems [17:48] Kilos: Hi :) [17:48] charl, what storage engine was it using? [17:49] sflr: they were really super weird though, first they wanted to hire me, then they didn't about some stupid issues regarding me having been involved with sites such as the old muti.co.za [17:49] sflr: then they later came back and wanted to hire me after all, they really screwed with me big time, that's what pissed me off [17:49] so eventually i just gave them the finger [17:49] at one point they actually claimed that i was involved with some online dating site i have never even heard of [17:49] that was the most ridicululous thing i have ever heard [17:49]