[05:42] <micahg> scott-upstairs: I added the other 2 packages that xfce4-utils were broken out to to recommends of ubuntustudio-default-settings since it seems like they're all needed
[05:44] <micahg> and uploaded
[05:47]  * micahg waits for that to publish before uploading the meta
[06:29] <astraljava> scott-upstairs: With a little (!) help from micahg, the emails should flow through nicely now. There was after all an option for limiting the size of the emails. I've set it to 60KB now, should take care of the problem.
[06:30]  * micahg is hoping tomorrow's ISO will build :)
[06:32] <astraljava> Thanks for all the work on it! I'm hoping my other life slows down a bit now, so I can get to Studio work as well.
[06:32] <micahg> I'm just uploading :)
[06:33] <astraljava> Well you did a little bit extra just now. I _do_ read the changelogs. :)
[06:35] <micahg> generating meta upload now
[06:37] <astraljava> Cool!
[06:44] <micahg> uploaded
[06:45]  * micahg has one more to go
[06:47] <astraljava> Nice, thanks! Is the time (around 18:15 or so) UTC? Means the build initiates at 1800 UTC?
[06:54] <micahg> yeah
[06:55] <astraljava> Alright, let's see how it runs in 11 hours, then. Thanks again. :)
[06:58] <micahg> hrm, gimp plugin registry patch isn't working
[07:00] <micahg> I can't play with it tonight though
[07:00]  * micahg will comment in the bug
[07:00] <astraljava> Can I be of assistance there?
[07:01] <micahg> Bug #1013003 
[07:02] <astraljava> Ok, I'll see what I can do.
[07:03] <micahg> ok, if you or scott-upstairs get something before 17:00 UTC or so, go ahead and look for a sponsor, otherwise, I can upload later today when I come in
[07:04] <astraljava> Alright, let's see how it goes. Have a good one!
[10:09] <falktx> hm, does 12.10 have gimp 2.8?
[11:25] <astraljava> Version: 2.8.0-2ubuntu1
[11:25] <astraljava> falktx: So in other words, yes.
[11:33] <falktx> nice
[12:05] <ailo> micahg: I forget. What was the tool to use when wanting to backport?
[12:06] <ailo> I read a bit about it, and all I seemed to find was you create a bug for it, which I assume the tool does too
[12:08] <astraljava> ailo: requestbackport
[12:21] <scott-upstairs> hmmmm, i wonder why the gimp-plugin-registry patch didn't work...it build in ppa
[12:22] <scott-upstairs> astraljava, thanks for finding that setting, i certainly hope it works
[12:23] <astraljava> scott-upstairs: We'll see in a few. I'll try to work out the patch on buildd pbuilder, but my machine isn't really up-to-date, I
[12:23] <astraljava> *I've had to tweak it all day. :)
[12:47] <astraljava> scott-upstairs: Where/how did you get that patch on the bug #1013003
[12:48] <ailo> astraljava: Thanks. We should get the newer qjackctl backported, since it half-solves a bug (in jackd2 I think)
[12:50] <astraljava> ailo: Ok cool.
[13:13] <ailo> ooh, there's some testing involved as well :P
[13:13] <ailo> Anyone done much backporting here?
[13:14] <ailo> I just followed the instructions to upload to ppa. Seems like a smart place to keep testing packages
[13:15] <ailo> ah, but qjackctl hasn't been updated yet for quantal :(
[13:16] <astraljava> ailo: Yeah, that's what it is indeed. I think at least one person needs to test the changes before it is accepted into the queue.
[13:16] <astraljava> ailo: You can requestsync it. :)
[13:16] <ailo> Aha!
[13:17] <ailo> But I need to do that from the quantal (development version), no?
[13:19] <ailo> I guess it couldn't be synced to anything else anyway..
[13:20] <ailo> This is weird: The package 'qjackctl' does not exist in the Debian primary archive in sid, sid-security, sid-updates or sid-proposed
[13:20] <astraljava> Usage: requestsync [options] <source package> [<target release> [base version]]
[13:21] <astraljava> So no, I don't think you need to.
[13:21] <ailo> I noticed it had quantal as default. The package does exist in sid though
[13:22] <astraljava> ailo: http://packages.debian.org/sid/qjackctl
[13:22] <astraljava> Maybe I misunderstood.
[13:23] <ailo> Well, I just did: requestsync qjackctl
[13:23] <ailo> Which should have the right options by default
[13:24] <ailo> And qjackctl does exist, so..
[13:27] <astraljava> Great. :)
[13:28] <astraljava> Oh, now I understood correctly.
[13:30] <ailo> I asked about it on #ubuntu-devel. Seems there's some problem with https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/qjackctl/+publishinghistory
[13:32] <astraljava> Yep, reading it too.
[13:32] <scott-work> i was reading micahg 's comments in the bug report, is there a good guide for making quilt patches?
[13:32] <scott-work> i've _applied_ quilt patches, but never created one :P
[14:38] <micahg> scott-work: http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/howto/quilt.html#creating_a_patch
[14:42] <micahg> err.maybe not the best guide, but it should get you going
[14:43] <astraljava> micahg: Good morning. I didn't get far with the patch for gimp-plugin-registry. I needed to fight with my machine, and I still don't have a working schroot for quantal.
[14:44] <micahg> astraljava: ok, no problem, FWIW, debootstrap in precise-backports works fine for me
[14:44] <astraljava> micahg: I'm not sure it's a problem with that.
[14:45] <astraljava> micahg: It's not binding /home for me.
[14:45] <astraljava> But oh well, I'll fight that battle elsewhere.
[16:18] <astraljava> So who's on precise? Does hitting Alt+F<1-6> take you to a virtual terminal? I wonder what I have done that eliminated the need for pressing Ctrl as well.
[16:28] <jussi> astraljava: macbook..
[16:29] <astraljava> Err... your point?
[16:30] <jussi> astraljava: the keyboard was all messed up last time i checked..
[16:30] <astraljava> Which keyboard?
[16:31] <astraljava> The keyboard on my Studio box at home? It's not a MacBook, if that's what you were trying to refer to.
[16:32] <jussi> oh
[16:33] <ailo> astraljava: Ctrl+Alt+F<1-6> ?
[16:34] <astraljava> ailo: It used to be that I needed to use both Ctrl and Alt together, to have F<1-6> take me into a virtual terminal. But now for some reason, only Alt is enough.
[16:34] <jussi> astraljava: is your control button stuck? :P
[16:36] <astraljava> xev doesn't think so.
[16:50] <ailo> exit
[16:50] <ailo> exit
[16:50] <ailo> :P
[16:53] <astraljava> TYPE HARDER!
[16:59] <astraljava> micahg: Well, I'm not sure I can be of much assistance re: gimp-plugin-registry. My worry is that the debdiff is rather freaky as the source has links inside, and some changes are suggested by patch having been applied already because of this.
[17:00] <astraljava> micahg: How does the build procedure work in this case? Will the debdiff be applied to the sources before buildd starts to churn, or is it applied at build-time? If the latter, then the confusion could explain it.
[18:26] <astraljava> The cdimage mails seemed to just drop in this time, unless you approved them explicitly.
[18:56] <micahg> astraljava: no worries, thanks for trying
[18:57] <micahg> astraljava: debdiff is applied to source, patches are applied before build begins
[18:57] <astraljava> Ok.
[18:58] <astraljava> micahg: Anyway, it builds here on a fresh quantal pbuilder.
[19:12] <len-dt>  astraljava I need both ctl and alt.
[19:14] <astraljava> Weird.
[19:14] <astraljava> But thanks. :)