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PupuserPuppyStudhi room04:43
PupuserPuppyStudhow good is u-studio, should i go try and find a review?04:44
PupuserPuppyStuddoes anybody have a midi device found automatically?04:45
PupuserPuppyStudi didn't think so.04:46
len-dtboth of my midi devices are found.04:46
len-dtIt is a live dvd or usb stick04:46
PupuserPuppyStudwhat are thy called?04:46
len-dttry it first.04:47
len-dtWhat are what called04:47
PupuserPuppyStudwhat midi devices does u-studio find, is the question04:48
len-dtThe ones I have personally tried are an old ensoniq gameport and a generic USB midi port.04:48
PupuserPuppyStudthat's 200% better than me04:49
len-dtThe easiest way to test is to boot the live iso and try without installing.04:50
len-dtHow did you look for the midi device.04:50
PupuserPuppyStudi used a command line info site, i just didn't try it. p.i.t.a.04:52
PupuserPuppyStudare there any good ham radio irc's anyone knows of?04:53
len-dtIf you boot to a live iso and look in qjackctl it shold be there even without jack running04:53
PupuserPuppyStudthanks bud04:53
len-dtI don't know the ircs that well.04:54
PupuserPuppyStudi ve found it before, it just didn't get going04:54
PupuserPuppyStudor responding, or light up04:55
PupuserPuppyStudi have 2 usb midi's and a motif too, that is disappointing04:56
len-dtPretty hard for me to know what that means. I plug the keyboard into the midi port. Use qjackctl to connect the midi port to a running softsynth and when I press keys the softsyth spits out the notes I hit.04:56
PupuserPuppyStudbut it works fine on old windows systems04:56
PupuserPuppyStudrhat sounds great04:56
PupuserPuppyStudwhat generic usb? i have a uno and a yamaha, both usb. your is usb i assume04:59
PupuserPuppyStudhas rosegarden gotten any better in the past year?05:00
PupuserPuppyStudit's pretty cool in pup studio05:00
Len-nbmy usb is a cakewalk/roland.05:02
Len-nbI haven't used rosegarden in a while.05:03
Len-nbI am mostly a guitarist and use midi mostly for drums05:03
PupuserPuppyStudi like cakewalk, i run sonar, a cakewalk spin-off, in windows, it's perfectly cool05:04
Len-nbhydrogen mostly does it for me05:04
Len-nbI haven't had a windows system forever.05:04
PupuserPuppyStudi haven't run windows in years either , except by accident05:05
Len-nbUstudio comes with qtractor out of the box, but rose is installable from the ubuntu repos05:06
PupuserPuppyStudsounds good, do you have any quirks with u studio?05:07
Len-nbMostly hardware stuff. My wireless on my netbook has to be unloaded while doing audio.05:08
Len-nbBoth of my machines are older low memory machines.05:08
Len-nbNo dual core here.05:08
Len-nbMy desktop is a p4 just went from 1G to 2.5G with a d66 audio IF05:09
PupuserPuppyStudpup studio 3.1 is freakin great, i'm totally greatful and in awww with it. no dual core here either. you sound happy with a p4, that's great05:09
Len-nbYa, I work with what I have.05:11
PupuserPuppyStudwhat do you call low memory, when lots of things are open you need more memory or i have found it's a no go to do something fairly reasonably useful05:11
Len-nblow means less than 2 g these days.05:12
Len-nbI had 1G in both machines but still managed to do a lot with it05:13
PupuserPuppyStudwow, i did pretty much with 1/4 of that, but not lately. what area of the planet are you in right now? i'm in california05:14
Len-nbSwappiness is a bit high out of the box (60) I set it to 10 or less.05:14
Len-nbI am in BC on Vancouver Island05:15
PupuserPuppyStudso, you planning on a new machine? what are you workin on, with the music thing?05:16
Len-nba new machine is maybe years down the road right now... too much money for me.05:16
Len-nbmostly I play live. The computer thing is new to me I have mostly been doing testing for US05:17
Len-nb(US means UbuntuStudio)05:17
PupuserPuppyStudyeah, i know. i mostly do midi between keyboards, and modules, and a midi delay, all hardware, no programs to mouse around to have my fun.05:18
Len-nbI haven't done much real recording for a while.05:18
Len-nbLast time I did a demo for someone else I used a fostex R8 tape machine.05:19
PupuserPuppyStudi get midi feedback, it's awesome, talk about sustain!05:19
Len-nbI haven't managed that. But I haven't tried really.05:20
PupuserPuppyStudthe amount of midi data runninr in a loop, is ---staggering05:21
Len-nbYa, it would be.05:22
PupuserPuppyStudif i make a mistake with midi settings, i can crash the synth. but it has booted right back up. good designs, i suppose.05:22
Len-nb Even just watching the output of a mod wheel move shows a lot.05:23
PupuserPuppyStudit does the new age sound pretty easy, but it's hard to work out a good sustain sound05:23
PupuserPuppyStudi like my little old yamaha djx synth, it has good midi control and a great low end, with whatever they put in it, but only if you work the sound with midi05:25
Len-nbMine is a DX7, I like the feel of the KB. don't use the internal sounds that much right now.05:26
PupuserPuppyStudi got that djx free, but it's a cheapie anyway if you can find one. i have a k3m too, the bass and filteres are legendary- it's a kawai05:26
PupuserPuppyStudhave you tried the dx 7 emulators? i want thaose sounds05:27
Len-nbThere is hexter. It seems to do pretty good.05:27
Len-nbIt just uses patches ready made it seems to have no way of creating patches, no patch editor05:29
Len-nbI had a nice patch editor on my old mega-ste05:29
PupuserPuppyStudediting is almost everything05:30
Len-nbYa the DX is fun for creating new sounds05:30
PupuserPuppyStudi had a korg 01w, it was incredible, but it stopped working, that is a deep, deep box.05:32
PupuserPuppyStudand alot of programs for it too. i read a lot about the dx7. i remember wanting one. it seemed like the best ever possible synth at the time05:34
Len-nbThe DX is great for making life like sounds.05:34
Len-nbEven off the wall sounds tended to have a "rreal" sound05:35
PupuserPuppyStudlife-like, i never heard that way of saying it, about the sound05:35
PupuserPuppyStuddoes it sound lik little animals heh, lots of sounds i make are like defects from space05:36
Len-nbWell they are synth sounds, but seem to have come from a live instrument... only there is nothing that sounds that way.05:37
Len-nbI think it is the conplexity the FM mod gives05:37
Len-nb*complexity05:38
PupuserPuppyStudso, the emulator editor in not easy to get or do? i'm interested05:38
Len-nbThere does not seem to be one in the repo so far. hexter says it does accept patch changes in the form of sysex messages.05:39
PupuserPuppyStudyeah, the dx could do some warm things. do you eventually get used to the controlling of it and does it finally get a little easier to edit?05:39
PupuserPuppyStudi do syx05:40
PupuserPuppyStudsyx can be augmented with a little program called midiox, it's for win though. heard of midiox? i'll be looking for that for 'nix when i get a chance05:41
Len-nbI think it is like the old B3s. It doesn't take long to make something sound ok. but years to fully explore the instrument.05:42
PupuserPuppyStudyeah, yrars, i know the  feeling, it's a long long experience to get fluent05:43
PupuserPuppyStudso do you feel like there is something you want after the dx7? it seems like it didn't get better, from what i read.05:45
Len-nbeverything went to wave table... a sample player.05:45
PupuserPuppyStudwhat is the technical discription of the dx7 again? fm, and ...05:47
Len-nbqsynth does a not bad job of that, but it does not give the expressability of synth sound creation05:47
PupuserPuppyStudi like hands on knobs, anything interface is usually too tedious05:47
Len-nbThe original DX was just fm pretty much, sine waves in. 6 operators in variour arangements05:48
Len-nbThe DX7 didn't have much in  the way of knobs either. setting up patches was tedious05:49
PupuserPuppyStudyeah, but t least you had hardware controls. one of my synths is a quasimidi raven, ever hear of that one?05:49
Len-nbnope. been out of the loop HW wise for years.05:50
Len-nbgot married and have kids ...05:50
Len-nbJust started getting back into playing with things at home since last year at the end05:51
Len-nbThats why all my stuf is so old.05:51
PupuserPuppyStudthe raven is fun too, but it is like being stuck in a basement in europe and some odd things are included for sure, it's german alright. that dx7 has a large pallet of05:53
PupuserPuppyStudthings to do, can you do them all?05:53
Len-nbI have a book... I go back to it when i get stuck05:54
Len-nbThe keyboard has access to all functions05:54
PupuserPuppyStudi still have not got my motif to do everything, it's like learning linux twice05:55
Len-nbI had a cheaper yamaha that I ended up making a patch editor for because I couldn't get at everything from the keyboard05:55
Len-nbIt was sort of FM but started with odd wave shapes to begin with. two FM only.05:56
PupuserPuppyStudmaybe i used your editor, thanks for the good work -what else dod you make?05:56
Len-nbIt was for an old atari ste.05:57
Len-nbMost of the sw I have done has been menu stuff at work...05:57
PupuserPuppyStudi may have read about it, i wanted an atari for a while. it's been a while05:58
PupuserPuppyStuddo you know about soundiver?05:59
Len-nbI had a really nice sequencer on the atari... 1024 tracks to 16 chanels out.05:59
Len-nbThey had midi built in. No good sound stuff though... nothing like a sound blaster even.06:00
PupuserPuppyStudi agree, s-blaster is the max fun i ever had06:00
PupuserPuppyStudwhat did you do with sound blaster?06:00
Len-nbNothing, I didn't have one. I was just saying that the sound available on the atari was worse than that. I have an ensoniq though, but I think it was before SB bought them.06:02
Len-nbAll I use it for is the midi port.06:02
Len-nbIf I use it for anything else it bugs my delta 66 multi track.06:03
PupuserPuppyStudi had good experience with the sb live fidelity ....with 3 drums /keyed at once , the memory of it remains with me, it was clearer than , maybe, anything i've ever tried06:04
Len-nbThey were one of the better 16 bit ones.06:05
PupuserPuppyStuddid you ever use sound fonts?06:06
Len-nbonly the software ones. Like used on timidity and qsynth06:07
Len-nbNone of my cards have there own synth06:08
PupuserPuppyStudok, i better go,- keep beating on those pots and pans up ther in canada, you cats are the greatest06:08
Len-nbThanks for the chat, bye06:08
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