[04:43] <PupuserPuppyStud> hi room
[04:44] <PupuserPuppyStud> how good is u-studio, should i go try and find a review?
[04:45] <PupuserPuppyStud> does anybody have a midi device found automatically?
[04:46] <PupuserPuppyStud> i didn't think so.
[04:46] <len-dt> both of my midi devices are found.
[04:46] <len-dt> It is a live dvd or usb stick
[04:46] <PupuserPuppyStud> what are thy called?
[04:47] <len-dt> try it first.
[04:47] <len-dt> What are what called
[04:48] <PupuserPuppyStud> what midi devices does u-studio find, is the question
[04:48] <len-dt> The ones I have personally tried are an old ensoniq gameport and a generic USB midi port.
[04:49] <PupuserPuppyStud> that's 200% better than me
[04:50] <len-dt> The easiest way to test is to boot the live iso and try without installing.
[04:50] <len-dt> How did you look for the midi device.
[04:52] <PupuserPuppyStud> i used a command line info site, i just didn't try it. p.i.t.a.
[04:53] <PupuserPuppyStud> are there any good ham radio irc's anyone knows of?
[04:53] <len-dt> If you boot to a live iso and look in qjackctl it shold be there even without jack running
[04:53] <PupuserPuppyStud> thanks bud
[04:54] <len-dt> I don't know the ircs that well.
[04:54] <PupuserPuppyStud> i ve found it before, it just didn't get going
[04:55] <PupuserPuppyStud> or responding, or light up
[04:56] <PupuserPuppyStud> i have 2 usb midi's and a motif too, that is disappointing
[04:56] <len-dt> Pretty hard for me to know what that means. I plug the keyboard into the midi port. Use qjackctl to connect the midi port to a running softsynth and when I press keys the softsyth spits out the notes I hit.
[04:56] <PupuserPuppyStud> but it works fine on old windows systems
[04:56] <PupuserPuppyStud> rhat sounds great
[04:59] <PupuserPuppyStud> what generic usb? i have a uno and a yamaha, both usb. your is usb i assume
[05:00] <PupuserPuppyStud> has rosegarden gotten any better in the past year?
[05:00] <PupuserPuppyStud> it's pretty cool in pup studio
[05:02] <Len-nb> my usb is a cakewalk/roland.
[05:03] <Len-nb> I haven't used rosegarden in a while.
[05:03] <Len-nb> I am mostly a guitarist and use midi mostly for drums
[05:04] <PupuserPuppyStud> i like cakewalk, i run sonar, a cakewalk spin-off, in windows, it's perfectly cool
[05:04] <Len-nb> hydrogen mostly does it for me
[05:04] <Len-nb> I haven't had a windows system forever.
[05:05] <PupuserPuppyStud> i haven't run windows in years either , except by accident
[05:06] <Len-nb> Ustudio comes with qtractor out of the box, but rose is installable from the ubuntu repos
[05:07] <PupuserPuppyStud> sounds good, do you have any quirks with u studio?
[05:08] <Len-nb> Mostly hardware stuff. My wireless on my netbook has to be unloaded while doing audio.
[05:08] <Len-nb> Both of my machines are older low memory machines.
[05:08] <Len-nb> No dual core here.
[05:09] <Len-nb> My desktop is a p4 just went from 1G to 2.5G with a d66 audio IF
[05:09] <PupuserPuppyStud> pup studio 3.1 is freakin great, i'm totally greatful and in awww with it. no dual core here either. you sound happy with a p4, that's great
[05:11] <Len-nb> Ya, I work with what I have.
[05:11] <PupuserPuppyStud> what do you call low memory, when lots of things are open you need more memory or i have found it's a no go to do something fairly reasonably useful
[05:12] <Len-nb> low means less than 2 g these days.
[05:13] <Len-nb> I had 1G in both machines but still managed to do a lot with it
[05:14] <PupuserPuppyStud> wow, i did pretty much with 1/4 of that, but not lately. what area of the planet are you in right now? i'm in california
[05:14] <Len-nb> Swappiness is a bit high out of the box (60) I set it to 10 or less.
[05:15] <Len-nb> I am in BC on Vancouver Island
[05:16] <PupuserPuppyStud> so, you planning on a new machine? what are you workin on, with the music thing?
[05:16] <Len-nb> a new machine is maybe years down the road right now... too much money for me.
[05:17] <Len-nb> mostly I play live. The computer thing is new to me I have mostly been doing testing for US
[05:17] <Len-nb> (US means UbuntuStudio)
[05:18] <PupuserPuppyStud> yeah, i know. i mostly do midi between keyboards, and modules, and a midi delay, all hardware, no programs to mouse around to have my fun.
[05:18] <Len-nb> I haven't done much real recording for a while.
[05:19] <Len-nb> Last time I did a demo for someone else I used a fostex R8 tape machine.
[05:19] <PupuserPuppyStud> i get midi feedback, it's awesome, talk about sustain!
[05:20] <Len-nb> I haven't managed that. But I haven't tried really.
[05:21] <PupuserPuppyStud> the amount of midi data runninr in a loop, is ---staggering
[05:22] <Len-nb> Ya, it would be.
[05:22] <PupuserPuppyStud> if i make a mistake with midi settings, i can crash the synth. but it has booted right back up. good designs, i suppose.
[05:23] <Len-nb>  Even just watching the output of a mod wheel move shows a lot.
[05:23] <PupuserPuppyStud> it does the new age sound pretty easy, but it's hard to work out a good sustain sound
[05:25] <PupuserPuppyStud> i like my little old yamaha djx synth, it has good midi control and a great low end, with whatever they put in it, but only if you work the sound with midi
[05:26] <Len-nb> Mine is a DX7, I like the feel of the KB. don't use the internal sounds that much right now.
[05:26] <PupuserPuppyStud> i got that djx free, but it's a cheapie anyway if you can find one. i have a k3m too, the bass and filteres are legendary- it's a kawai
[05:27] <PupuserPuppyStud> have you tried the dx 7 emulators? i want thaose sounds
[05:27] <Len-nb> There is hexter. It seems to do pretty good.
[05:29] <Len-nb> It just uses patches ready made it seems to have no way of creating patches, no patch editor
[05:29] <Len-nb> I had a nice patch editor on my old mega-ste
[05:30] <PupuserPuppyStud> editing is almost everything
[05:30] <Len-nb> Ya the DX is fun for creating new sounds
[05:32] <PupuserPuppyStud> i had a korg 01w, it was incredible, but it stopped working, that is a deep, deep box.
[05:34] <PupuserPuppyStud> and alot of programs for it too. i read a lot about the dx7. i remember wanting one. it seemed like the best ever possible synth at the time
[05:34] <Len-nb> The DX is great for making life like sounds.
[05:35] <Len-nb> Even off the wall sounds tended to have a "rreal" sound
[05:35] <PupuserPuppyStud> life-like, i never heard that way of saying it, about the sound
[05:36] <PupuserPuppyStud> does it sound lik little animals heh, lots of sounds i make are like defects from space
[05:37] <Len-nb> Well they are synth sounds, but seem to have come from a live instrument... only there is nothing that sounds that way.
[05:37] <Len-nb> I think it is the conplexity the FM mod gives
[05:38] <Len-nb> *complexity
[05:38] <PupuserPuppyStud> so, the emulator editor in not easy to get or do? i'm interested
[05:39] <Len-nb> There does not seem to be one in the repo so far. hexter says it does accept patch changes in the form of sysex messages.
[05:39] <PupuserPuppyStud> yeah, the dx could do some warm things. do you eventually get used to the controlling of it and does it finally get a little easier to edit?
[05:40] <PupuserPuppyStud> i do syx
[05:41] <PupuserPuppyStud> syx can be augmented with a little program called midiox, it's for win though. heard of midiox? i'll be looking for that for 'nix when i get a chance
[05:42] <Len-nb> I think it is like the old B3s. It doesn't take long to make something sound ok. but years to fully explore the instrument.
[05:43] <PupuserPuppyStud> yeah, yrars, i know the  feeling, it's a long long experience to get fluent
[05:45] <PupuserPuppyStud> so do you feel like there is something you want after the dx7? it seems like it didn't get better, from what i read.
[05:45] <Len-nb> everything went to wave table... a sample player.
[05:47] <PupuserPuppyStud> what is the technical discription of the dx7 again? fm, and ...
[05:47] <Len-nb> qsynth does a not bad job of that, but it does not give the expressability of synth sound creation
[05:47] <PupuserPuppyStud> i like hands on knobs, anything interface is usually too tedious
[05:48] <Len-nb> The original DX was just fm pretty much, sine waves in. 6 operators in variour arangements
[05:49] <Len-nb> The DX7 didn't have much in  the way of knobs either. setting up patches was tedious
[05:49] <PupuserPuppyStud> yeah, but t least you had hardware controls. one of my synths is a quasimidi raven, ever hear of that one?
[05:50] <Len-nb> nope. been out of the loop HW wise for years.
[05:50] <Len-nb> got married and have kids ...
[05:51] <Len-nb> Just started getting back into playing with things at home since last year at the end
[05:51] <Len-nb> Thats why all my stuf is so old.
[05:53] <PupuserPuppyStud> the raven is fun too, but it is like being stuck in a basement in europe and some odd things are included for sure, it's german alright. that dx7 has a large pallet of
[05:53] <PupuserPuppyStud> things to do, can you do them all?
[05:54] <Len-nb> I have a book... I go back to it when i get stuck
[05:54] <Len-nb> The keyboard has access to all functions
[05:55] <PupuserPuppyStud> i still have not got my motif to do everything, it's like learning linux twice
[05:55] <Len-nb> I had a cheaper yamaha that I ended up making a patch editor for because I couldn't get at everything from the keyboard
[05:56] <Len-nb> It was sort of FM but started with odd wave shapes to begin with. two FM only.
[05:56] <PupuserPuppyStud> maybe i used your editor, thanks for the good work -what else dod you make?
[05:57] <Len-nb> It was for an old atari ste.
[05:57] <Len-nb> Most of the sw I have done has been menu stuff at work...
[05:58] <PupuserPuppyStud> i may have read about it, i wanted an atari for a while. it's been a while
[05:59] <PupuserPuppyStud> do you know about soundiver?
[05:59] <Len-nb> I had a really nice sequencer on the atari... 1024 tracks to 16 chanels out.
[06:00] <Len-nb> They had midi built in. No good sound stuff though... nothing like a sound blaster even.
[06:00] <PupuserPuppyStud> i agree, s-blaster is the max fun i ever had
[06:00] <PupuserPuppyStud> what did you do with sound blaster?
[06:02] <Len-nb> Nothing, I didn't have one. I was just saying that the sound available on the atari was worse than that. I have an ensoniq though, but I think it was before SB bought them.
[06:02] <Len-nb> All I use it for is the midi port.
[06:03] <Len-nb> If I use it for anything else it bugs my delta 66 multi track.
[06:04] <PupuserPuppyStud> i had good experience with the sb live fidelity ....with 3 drums /keyed at once , the memory of it remains with me, it was clearer than , maybe, anything i've ever tried
[06:05] <Len-nb> They were one of the better 16 bit ones.
[06:06] <PupuserPuppyStud> did you ever use sound fonts?
[06:07] <Len-nb> only the software ones. Like used on timidity and qsynth
[06:08] <Len-nb> None of my cards have there own synth
[06:08] <PupuserPuppyStud> ok, i better go,- keep beating on those pots and pans up ther in canada, you cats are the greatest
[06:08] <Len-nb> Thanks for the chat, bye