[04:43] hi room [04:44] how good is u-studio, should i go try and find a review? [04:45] does anybody have a midi device found automatically? [04:46] i didn't think so. [04:46] both of my midi devices are found. [04:46] It is a live dvd or usb stick [04:46] what are thy called? [04:47] try it first. [04:47] What are what called [04:48] what midi devices does u-studio find, is the question [04:48] The ones I have personally tried are an old ensoniq gameport and a generic USB midi port. [04:49] that's 200% better than me [04:50] The easiest way to test is to boot the live iso and try without installing. [04:50] How did you look for the midi device. [04:52] i used a command line info site, i just didn't try it. p.i.t.a. [04:53] are there any good ham radio irc's anyone knows of? [04:53] If you boot to a live iso and look in qjackctl it shold be there even without jack running [04:53] thanks bud [04:54] I don't know the ircs that well. [04:54] i ve found it before, it just didn't get going [04:55] or responding, or light up [04:56] i have 2 usb midi's and a motif too, that is disappointing [04:56] Pretty hard for me to know what that means. I plug the keyboard into the midi port. Use qjackctl to connect the midi port to a running softsynth and when I press keys the softsyth spits out the notes I hit. [04:56] but it works fine on old windows systems [04:56] rhat sounds great [04:59] what generic usb? i have a uno and a yamaha, both usb. your is usb i assume [05:00] has rosegarden gotten any better in the past year? [05:00] it's pretty cool in pup studio [05:02] my usb is a cakewalk/roland. [05:03] I haven't used rosegarden in a while. [05:03] I am mostly a guitarist and use midi mostly for drums [05:04] i like cakewalk, i run sonar, a cakewalk spin-off, in windows, it's perfectly cool [05:04] hydrogen mostly does it for me [05:04] I haven't had a windows system forever. [05:05] i haven't run windows in years either , except by accident [05:06] Ustudio comes with qtractor out of the box, but rose is installable from the ubuntu repos [05:07] sounds good, do you have any quirks with u studio? [05:08] Mostly hardware stuff. My wireless on my netbook has to be unloaded while doing audio. [05:08] Both of my machines are older low memory machines. [05:08] No dual core here. [05:09] My desktop is a p4 just went from 1G to 2.5G with a d66 audio IF [05:09] pup studio 3.1 is freakin great, i'm totally greatful and in awww with it. no dual core here either. you sound happy with a p4, that's great [05:11] Ya, I work with what I have. [05:11] what do you call low memory, when lots of things are open you need more memory or i have found it's a no go to do something fairly reasonably useful [05:12] low means less than 2 g these days. [05:13] I had 1G in both machines but still managed to do a lot with it [05:14] wow, i did pretty much with 1/4 of that, but not lately. what area of the planet are you in right now? i'm in california [05:14] Swappiness is a bit high out of the box (60) I set it to 10 or less. [05:15] I am in BC on Vancouver Island [05:16] so, you planning on a new machine? what are you workin on, with the music thing? [05:16] a new machine is maybe years down the road right now... too much money for me. [05:17] mostly I play live. The computer thing is new to me I have mostly been doing testing for US [05:17] (US means UbuntuStudio) [05:18] yeah, i know. i mostly do midi between keyboards, and modules, and a midi delay, all hardware, no programs to mouse around to have my fun. [05:18] I haven't done much real recording for a while. [05:19] Last time I did a demo for someone else I used a fostex R8 tape machine. [05:19] i get midi feedback, it's awesome, talk about sustain! [05:20] I haven't managed that. But I haven't tried really. [05:21] the amount of midi data runninr in a loop, is ---staggering [05:22] Ya, it would be. [05:22] if i make a mistake with midi settings, i can crash the synth. but it has booted right back up. good designs, i suppose. [05:23] Even just watching the output of a mod wheel move shows a lot. [05:23] it does the new age sound pretty easy, but it's hard to work out a good sustain sound [05:25] i like my little old yamaha djx synth, it has good midi control and a great low end, with whatever they put in it, but only if you work the sound with midi [05:26] Mine is a DX7, I like the feel of the KB. don't use the internal sounds that much right now. [05:26] i got that djx free, but it's a cheapie anyway if you can find one. i have a k3m too, the bass and filteres are legendary- it's a kawai [05:27] have you tried the dx 7 emulators? i want thaose sounds [05:27] There is hexter. It seems to do pretty good. [05:29] It just uses patches ready made it seems to have no way of creating patches, no patch editor [05:29] I had a nice patch editor on my old mega-ste [05:30] editing is almost everything [05:30] Ya the DX is fun for creating new sounds [05:32] i had a korg 01w, it was incredible, but it stopped working, that is a deep, deep box. [05:34] and alot of programs for it too. i read a lot about the dx7. i remember wanting one. it seemed like the best ever possible synth at the time [05:34] The DX is great for making life like sounds. [05:35] Even off the wall sounds tended to have a "rreal" sound [05:35] life-like, i never heard that way of saying it, about the sound [05:36] does it sound lik little animals heh, lots of sounds i make are like defects from space [05:37] Well they are synth sounds, but seem to have come from a live instrument... only there is nothing that sounds that way. [05:37] I think it is the conplexity the FM mod gives [05:38] *complexity [05:38] so, the emulator editor in not easy to get or do? i'm interested [05:39] There does not seem to be one in the repo so far. hexter says it does accept patch changes in the form of sysex messages. [05:39] yeah, the dx could do some warm things. do you eventually get used to the controlling of it and does it finally get a little easier to edit? [05:40] i do syx [05:41] syx can be augmented with a little program called midiox, it's for win though. heard of midiox? i'll be looking for that for 'nix when i get a chance [05:42] I think it is like the old B3s. It doesn't take long to make something sound ok. but years to fully explore the instrument. [05:43] yeah, yrars, i know the feeling, it's a long long experience to get fluent [05:45] so do you feel like there is something you want after the dx7? it seems like it didn't get better, from what i read. [05:45] everything went to wave table... a sample player. [05:47] what is the technical discription of the dx7 again? fm, and ... [05:47] qsynth does a not bad job of that, but it does not give the expressability of synth sound creation [05:47] i like hands on knobs, anything interface is usually too tedious [05:48] The original DX was just fm pretty much, sine waves in. 6 operators in variour arangements [05:49] The DX7 didn't have much in the way of knobs either. setting up patches was tedious [05:49] yeah, but t least you had hardware controls. one of my synths is a quasimidi raven, ever hear of that one? [05:50] nope. been out of the loop HW wise for years. [05:50] got married and have kids ... [05:51] Just started getting back into playing with things at home since last year at the end [05:51] Thats why all my stuf is so old. [05:53] the raven is fun too, but it is like being stuck in a basement in europe and some odd things are included for sure, it's german alright. that dx7 has a large pallet of [05:53] things to do, can you do them all? [05:54] I have a book... I go back to it when i get stuck [05:54] The keyboard has access to all functions [05:55] i still have not got my motif to do everything, it's like learning linux twice [05:55] I had a cheaper yamaha that I ended up making a patch editor for because I couldn't get at everything from the keyboard [05:56] It was sort of FM but started with odd wave shapes to begin with. two FM only. [05:56] maybe i used your editor, thanks for the good work -what else dod you make? [05:57] It was for an old atari ste. [05:57] Most of the sw I have done has been menu stuff at work... [05:58] i may have read about it, i wanted an atari for a while. it's been a while [05:59] do you know about soundiver? [05:59] I had a really nice sequencer on the atari... 1024 tracks to 16 chanels out. [06:00] They had midi built in. No good sound stuff though... nothing like a sound blaster even. [06:00] i agree, s-blaster is the max fun i ever had [06:00] what did you do with sound blaster? [06:02] Nothing, I didn't have one. I was just saying that the sound available on the atari was worse than that. I have an ensoniq though, but I think it was before SB bought them. [06:02] All I use it for is the midi port. [06:03] If I use it for anything else it bugs my delta 66 multi track. [06:04] i had good experience with the sb live fidelity ....with 3 drums /keyed at once , the memory of it remains with me, it was clearer than , maybe, anything i've ever tried [06:05] They were one of the better 16 bit ones. [06:06] did you ever use sound fonts? [06:07] only the software ones. Like used on timidity and qsynth [06:08] None of my cards have there own synth [06:08] ok, i better go,- keep beating on those pots and pans up ther in canada, you cats are the greatest [06:08] Thanks for the chat, bye === arges is now known as arges-lunch === arges-lunch is now known as arges