[08:46] <yofel> apachelogger: didn't you want to schedule a meeting? (or did I and forgot about it...?)
[11:11] <apachelogger> yofel: I am not sure who was supposed to, but I regularly remember it and then go fuck it .... doodle's UI is making me crazy :(
[11:12] <Tm_T> son! <3
[11:12] <apachelogger> I also should write a mail about dog food
[11:12] <apachelogger> Tm_T: mommy
[11:15] <apachelogger> anything urgent needs doing? otherwise I'll prepare upload to make amarok and clementine build again
[11:19] <Tm_T> amarok to build again sounds urgent (:
[11:20] <apachelogger> well, there was not FTBFS yet :P
[11:24] <apachelogger> oh
[11:24] <apachelogger> actually first I need to prepare a fix for ubiquity
[11:25] <apachelogger> apparently also our installer is written in python and crashes in perfectly build time detectable stupid coding errors \o/
[11:27] <Tm_T> yay
[11:34] <apachelogger> Riddell: how is in charge of ubiquity these days?
[11:36] <Riddell> apachelogger: who?  cjwatson is in general
[11:36] <Riddell> nobody is maintaining the kde side
[11:36] <apachelogger> yah
[11:36] <apachelogger> oh
[11:36] <apachelogger> actually that might be a bug in the kdeui
[11:36] <cjwatson> apachelogger: hmm?
[11:37]  * apachelogger finds all those unrelated classes stuffed in one find totally unparsable
[11:37] <cjwatson> If it's build-time detectable, we should have a test case for it
[11:37] <apachelogger> cjwatson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1008255
[11:37] <apachelogger> seems to be in the ubi plugin when using a hostname with spaces
[11:39] <cjwatson> If it's build-time detectable, by all means present proof of this :-)
[11:39] <apachelogger> cjwatson: run a test that triggers the crash :P
[11:39] <cjwatson> Yeah, that should be self.ui.controller I think
[11:39] <apachelogger> yep
[11:39] <cjwatson> apachelogger: I would love there to be a non-zero number of tests for the KDE frontend
[11:39] <cjwatson> Although that is in frontend-independent code
[11:40] <apachelogger> yeah, I think the ubi tests are just incomplete
[11:40] <apachelogger> and yes, kde frontend tests need to come, but only with the QML port I think
[11:40] <cjwatson> Oh, no it's not, the GTK frontend detects that earlier and presents the error inline
[11:41] <cjwatson> So in theory frontend-independent but in practice only KDE runs into it
[11:41] <apachelogger> cjwatson: doesn't change the fact that the code there is wrong as self has no controller attribute :)
[11:41] <cjwatson> Certainly, I agree.  Do you want to commit a patch for that?
[11:41] <cjwatson> It ought to go into the SRU queue as well
[11:42] <apachelogger> cjwatson: feel free to fix it yourself, I'd have to make a merge request I think
[11:42] <cjwatson> Oh, you probably don't have commit access to lp:~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk
[11:42] <cjwatson> (Though I can add you if you're going to be doing a lot)
[11:42] <cjwatson> But you can just pastebin a patch if you like and I can commit it
[11:42] <cjwatson> Seeing as it's assigned to you
[11:43]  * apachelogger has not signed the contributor agreement so he actually cannot do a lot :)
[11:45] <cjwatson> Ah, damn thing
[11:45] <apachelogger> cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1050741/
[11:46] <apachelogger> "Buy a CD or DVD"
[11:46] <cjwatson> setup -> usersetup, but I'll fix that, thanks
[11:46]  * apachelogger updates website
[11:47] <apachelogger> cjwatson: cheers
[11:47] <cjwatson> committed
[11:54] <apachelogger> cjwatson: are you going to take care of the SRU?
[11:55] <apachelogger> uh, MS announced a tablet
[11:55] <cjwatson> apachelogger: if you assign me a precise task on that bug I'll try to remember ...
[11:55] <apachelogger> cjwatson: done, thanks
[11:56]  * apachelogger moves on to fix liblastfm users
[12:19] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:48] <apachelogger>  -> Considering build-dep kdemultimedia-dev (>= 4:4.2.0)
[12:48] <apachelogger>       Tried versions: 
[12:48] <apachelogger>    -> Does not satisfy version, not trying
[12:48] <apachelogger> yofel, Riddell: debfx: transitional package?
[12:49] <yofel> why not just fix it?
[12:49] <yofel> we usually have transitional packages for upgrade reasons, not FTBFS 
[12:49] <Riddell> yeah
[12:49] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[12:52] <debfx> yofel: and for stay-compatible-with-debian reasons
[12:53] <apachelogger> ah, it's only amarok it seems
[12:54] <debfx> amarok, audex and bangarang
[12:54] <apachelogger> in main anyway
[12:54] <apachelogger> debfx: how can you tell?
[12:55] <debfx> reverse-depends -r sid -b kdemultimedia-dev
[12:55] <debfx> amarok is still in main?
[12:55] <apachelogger> nah, checked precise
[12:55]  * apachelogger did not think of looking at debian ^^
[12:55] <apachelogger> also ETOOMANYTOOLS
[12:56] <debfx> yeah that's a bit of a workaround since reverse-depends doesn't track non-existent packages
[12:57] <apachelogger> and build-rdepends only searches main 
[12:58] <yofel> true
[12:58] <apachelogger> well, main non-free and contrib ^^
[12:59] <Riddell> debian will br dropping kdemultimedia-dev when they update to 4.9
[14:10] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/504452/
[14:10] <apachelogger> wah? Oo
[14:12] <apachelogger> manual dpkg-buildpackage works ....
[14:17] <Riddell> um never seen that before
[14:17] <Riddell> but 2.6 beta 1 is compiled in quantal
[14:19] <apachelogger> I also did not change anything
[14:19] <apachelogger> ...in that cmake stuff
[14:19] <apachelogger> also that error does not make sense
[14:19] <apachelogger> why would it fail on pbuilder build and once running it manually in the same env it installs...
[14:23] <apachelogger> Riddell: should we make amarok make builddep on ffmpeg? used for transcoding and musicbrainz fingerprinting
[14:36] <apachelogger> Riddell: happened again
[14:37] <debfx> apachelogger: the (k)ubuntu seed says "libavcodec cannot be shipped on CDs (c.f. Ubuntu technical board resolution 2007-01-02)."
[14:38] <apachelogger> question is why
[14:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: patent risks presumably
[14:45] <apachelogger> uh ah, I think I ran out of disk space ^^
[14:51] <apachelogger> I have one gig of kcache files Oo
[15:08] <yofel> at least your dpkg isn't broken (hurray on dpkg 1.16.3)
[15:10] <apachelogger> lol
[17:09] <CIA-45> [amarok] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20120620170858-egvrpx2jjnq26l7a * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[17:09] <CIA-45> * Add 0001-port-to-liblastfm1-api.patch from upstream (target 2.7) fixing
[17:09] <CIA-45> compatibiity with liblastfm1, fairly trivial and simple patch (LP: #1015526) *
[17:14] <shadeslayer> yofel: did you review digikam packaging from bzr?
[17:44] <highvoltage> howdy
[17:44] <highvoltage> anyone around that's involved with the kubuntu tablet stuff?
[17:46] <yofel> you want to talk to bulldog98 or rbelem when they're here usually
[17:47] <yofel> shadeslayer: are you sure that those shouldn't be installed? http://paste.kde.org/504704
[17:47] <rbelem> highvoltage, o/
[17:47] <shadeslayer> highvoltage: I'm doing some stuff for kubuntu tablet, mostly trying to get all the pieces to work on ARM :P
[17:48] <yofel> otherwise digikam looks fine
[17:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: is that from the build log?
[17:48] <yofel> that's from the buildlog of the test rebuild I did just now
[17:48] <shadeslayer> ah yes, imgur stuff, I'm not so sure about that
[17:49] <highvoltage> rbelem, shadeslayer: great, not sure if you've been following but we (edubuntu) want to put together an image for the zatab as well
[17:49] <shadeslayer> because the imgur logo etc could be copyrighted, and I didn't find a copyright stuff for that in the src's
[17:49] <highvoltage> we're ordering some of them but ran into some hickups so we don't actually have the devices yet
[17:49] <highvoltage> (but should have it by next week)
[17:49] <shadeslayer> highvoltage: iirc DarkwingDuck has a ZaTab
[17:49] <yofel> ok, sounds reasonable - and the templates?
[17:49] <highvoltage> I last spoke to DarkWing and he said it booted but the screen was black
[17:49] <rbelem> highvoltage, i heard about that in uds-q
[17:50] <rbelem> highvoltage, i got the tablet running
[17:50] <rbelem> highvoltage, but no touchscreen
[17:50] <highvoltage> but my actual question is, how do we go about getting arm images going so long on the canonical build infractructure?
[17:50] <shadeslayer> yofel: I thought I installed the templates ... lemme check
[17:50] <highvoltage> do we need to set up new seeds? who should we poke?
[17:50] <shadeslayer> rbelem: can the zatab boot ubuntu ? Like .. what is needed?
[17:50] <rbelem> highvoltage, you will need seeds
[17:51] <rbelem> shadeslayer, a custom kernel
[17:51] <highvoltage> rbelem: the kernel you use for the zatab is in universe, right?
[17:51] <rbelem> highvoltage, you can take a look on current kubuntu-active seeds
[17:51] <rbelem> highvoltage, not yet
[17:51] <rbelem> one minute
[17:51] <highvoltage> rbelem: how do you get builds then? or aren't there custom ones?
[17:51] <shadeslayer> ofcourse, what I'm more intersted in was, is that custom kernel readily available?
[17:51] <highvoltage> *official ones, I mean
[17:52] <highvoltage> DarkWing said that he'd work on getting it into universe last when we talked
[17:52] <shadeslayer> ah
[17:52] <shadeslayer> I had a really hard time with the kernel bits
[17:52] <shadeslayer> even bricked my tablet :|
[17:53] <rbelem> highvoltage, shadeslayer https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/linux-allwinner
[17:53] <shadeslayer> *click*
[17:53] <shadeslayer> omgawesome
[17:54] <shadeslayer> they seem to have thought of everything 
[17:54] <rbelem> highvoltage, shadeslayer https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/android_device_allwinner_zatab
[17:54] <rbelem> highvoltage, i think that we can have zatab kernel on universe
[17:54] <highvoltage> ah thanks rbelem 
[17:54] <rbelem> highvoltage, i'm working with some linaro guys to get that done
[17:55] <highvoltage> rbelem: I'm not a kernel expert but if there's something I could do, please let me know, I'd like to get involved with that
[17:58] <highvoltage> rbelem: so I guess some of it will go into multiverse? (I see there's some non-free drivers in there)
[17:59] <highvoltage> shadeslayer: how do you brick that tablet? doesn't it just boot from sd card?
[17:59] <shadeslayer> uhh ...
[17:59] <shadeslayer> highvoltage: I have a ASUS transformer
[17:59] <shadeslayer> I was using dd to write kernelblobs and flashed the wrong blob
[17:59] <rbelem> highvoltage, oki
[17:59] <shadeslayer> kaboom
[18:00] <highvoltage> shadeslayer: aah
[18:00] <shadeslayer> no recovery, booted a borked android
[18:00] <highvoltage> :(
[18:00] <rbelem> highvoltage, probably we will have a package that will contain all non-free bits
[18:00] <highvoltage> and that's such a nice tablet too
[18:00] <shadeslayer> managed to fix it though
[18:00] <highvoltage> rbelem: so the package will go into multiverse completely?
[18:00] <shadeslayer> highvoltage: yeah, hardware acceleration is non existent though
[18:01] <rbelem> highvoltage, i think so, only the non-free drivers will go to multiverse
[18:01] <highvoltage> ok
[18:01] <highvoltage> shadeslayer: "fuck you nvidia"?
[18:01] <rbelem> :-D
[18:01] <shadeslayer> hahahaha
[18:02]  * highvoltage actually likes the tegra chips (when they work)
[18:02] <shadeslayer> oh man, that talk is epic
[18:02] <shadeslayer> highvoltage: mostly "fsck you ASUS for not contributing code back properly"
[18:02] <highvoltage> heh
[18:02] <shadeslayer> a) They're using the 2.6.39 kernel ( I think, will have to check )
[18:03] <shadeslayer> b) They just dump the kernel sources, no git history
[18:03] <shadeslayer> c) They didn't implement some things the right way (TM)
[18:03] <shadeslayer> I wouldn't know the correct way to do those things, but I'm quite interested :P
[18:16] <highvoltage> rbelem, shadeslayer: is Kubuntu going to have an alpha 2 image for the zatab?
[18:16] <shadeslayer> idk ... don't have the hardware to test
[18:16] <rbelem> highvoltage, yup
[18:16] <shadeslayer> so we *could* spin images, but will need someone to test
[18:17] <highvoltage> cool.
[18:17] <highvoltage> what kernel do you currently ship?
[18:17] <highvoltage> I have a pandaboard that I could test with
[18:17] <rbelem> highvoltage, i will try to fix the latest issues before alpha2
[18:17] <highvoltage> if that would help
[18:17] <shadeslayer> ooohhh
[18:18] <highvoltage> (and I should have my zatab next week some time)
[18:18] <shadeslayer> Riddell: have you seen this : http://www.360.ee/eng/index.php
[18:18] <shadeslayer> kayaking in Tallinn :P
[18:18] <rbelem> highvoltage, awesome
[18:19] <rbelem> highvoltage, yeah... pandaboard would be helpful to test some arm stuff
[18:19] <shadeslayer> I can test all the other packages
[18:19] <highvoltage> we'll at least check all the kde-edu stuff too since we ship it in edubuntu :)
[18:19] <shadeslayer> except the kernel bits
[18:19] <shadeslayer> awesum :D
[18:53] <shadeslayer> pfffttt
[18:53] <shadeslayer> running wrap and sort will make the debian delta huge
[18:58] <highvoltage> so, the pairs.desktop file needs a line that says "Categories=Qt;KDE;Education;Game;KidsGame;
[18:58] <highvoltage> "
[18:58] <highvoltage> what's the best way to get that into upstream? could one of you guys perhaps commit it?
[18:58] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:58] <yofel> reviewboard usually
[18:58] <shadeslayer> ^
[18:59] <shadeslayer> KidsGame ... didn't know that was even a category
[18:59]  * highvoltage found it using Blinken as an example :)
[18:59] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:08] <yofel> shouldn't "Sort: By Top Rated" sorty by stars? http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/ms.png
[20:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: mmm, got to be done
[20:17] <shadeslayer> :D
[20:24] <Riddell> ffff
[20:25] <highvoltage> 65536
[20:26] <shadeslayer> :D
[20:46] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1015782] package qt4-doc (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy for b... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1015782 (by Andre)
[22:33] <dappermuis> does anyone know what the plans are for packaging  libpoppler >= 0.2?
[22:45] <BarkingFish> is there anyway i can look back through my updates, and see what was updated and when?  I did a 25 package update a couple of days ago up to the 3 series 26 version kernel, and things are going awry, badly.
[22:47] <yofel> you can see that in the apt history
[22:47] <BarkingFish> excellent.
[22:48] <yofel> either look in muon View->History, or /var/log/apt/history.log
[22:48] <BarkingFish> It appears something in the same update has messed with my system, and I want to find out what.  I have checked my system settings/default applications/web browser, and that's all normal
[22:49] <BarkingFish> but everything is opening based on content, rather than directly into firefox - text into kate, music and vids in vlc, pdfs into okular, etc
[22:49] <BarkingFish> html and other direct urls go to firefox, but everything else is getting redirected without me getting a say in it
[22:50] <BarkingFish> i'll take a look at that now, yofel - thanks
[22:55] <BarkingFish> yofel, this is all of what went through with the upgrade on 17/June, this issue only started after that. Could you see anything here which *might* have caused this please?
[22:55] <BarkingFish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1051766/