[15:24] <MassiveTR> ubuntu-one says The authentication failed. when i try to login please help
[15:26] <pmatulis> MassiveTR: bad credentials.  try resetting the password
[15:26] <MassiveTR> ill try
[15:34] <MassiveTR> it still says the authentication failed
[16:36] <Listener> Good morning, sound has disappeared from my otherwise perfectly working system. Any thoughts as to how to troubleshoot this?
[18:05] <Listener> So, I have this odd problem, I am only able to play music as root. Yes, I am a member of the audio group.
[18:12] <bioterror> Listener, sounds quite weird
[18:15] <Listener> bioterror: I think so.
[18:16] <bioterror> is this a default lubuntu installation?
[18:16] <bioterror> as you seem to have root account enabled and probably logged in?
[18:17] <Listener> bioterror: "sudo aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" works
[18:17] <Listener> bioterror: "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" does not
[18:18] <Listener> bioterror: yes, default lubuntu, up to date
[18:18] <wxl> ls -lh /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[18:18] <bioterror> hmmm
[18:18] <bioterror> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1995103
[18:19] <bioterror> not the only one
[18:19] <Listener> bioterror: misery loves company
[18:20] <wxl> ^^ Listener
[18:22] <bioterror> Listener, what if you run alsamixer with your user?
[18:22] <bioterror> not as root
[18:22] <bioterror> just as a regular user
[18:22] <bioterror> nothing is muted and so on?
[18:23] <wxl> and do we know this is not a permissions problem for some reason? can't imagine it would be, but…
[18:23] <wxl> maybe a cp /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav ~/ is in order
[18:23] <bioterror> I would start with the alsamixer
[18:23] <Listener> bioterror: alsamixer seem to run fine as either user or root
[18:24] <bioterror> and nothing is muted?
[18:24] <bioterror> as I stated, do not run as root
[18:24] <bioterror> and what's the output of aplay without root?
[18:24] <wxl> ^ yes tat
[18:25] <Listener> bioterror: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:985:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to create IPC semaphore
[18:25] <Listener> aplay: main:682: audio open error: Permission denied
[18:25] <wxl> ooh fu
[18:25] <bioterror> hoho
[18:25] <wxl> n
[18:27] <wxl> O_O http://darkness.codefu.org/wordpress/2007/12/linux-audio-strikes-back/
[18:29] <Listener> wxl: I saw that...
[18:29] <wxl> i think that's your solution, as crazy as it sounds
[18:30] <bioterror> 2007? :D
[18:30] <bioterror> I would reinstall soundcard
[18:30] <wxl> i hear what you're saying, however, i still see that same problem all across the internets
[18:31] <Listener> wxl: no longer a \etc\alsa directory
[18:32] <wxl> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4130234/connecting-to-alsa
[18:33] <Listener> wxl: err /etc/alsa
[18:36] <Listener> wxl: yeah, I saw that too, but I don't seem to have an .asoundrc file
[18:37] <wxl> grep ipc_key /usr/share/alsa/*
[18:38] <Listener> wxl: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf:defaults.pcm.ipc_key 5678293
[18:38] <wxl> same as me
[18:39] <wxl> to get hex: printf '%x\n' 5678293
[18:39] <wxl> 56a4d5
[18:39] <Listener> wxl: that's a nice trick
[18:40] <Listener> wxl: least i learned something today
[18:40] <wxl> same thing with dude, i see 56a4d5 and 56a4d6
[18:41] <wxl> although nattach column for me is 2
[18:41] <kanliot> if it's worth anything let me know, i'll put it on the wiki
[18:42] <kanliot> sorry but i'm already late
[18:42] <wxl> i'm thinking this is less wiki and more bug report
[18:42] <wxl> seems pernicious across many distros
[18:42] <wxl> and the reason is not clear
[18:42] <kanliot> :)
[18:44] <wxl> Listener: what are your nattach values?
[18:44] <wxl> those are attached processes
[18:45] <wxl> you probably don't want to mess with removing those memory assignments if it's non-zero ;)
[18:46] <wxl> if it's zero run ipcrm -M and ipcrm -S on the hex value
[18:46] <wxl> then supposedly audio worked but the comment suggests restarting alsa which may be necessary
[18:47] <wxl> which is easy: sudo alsa force-reload
[18:48] <Listener> wxl: ipcs -m?
[18:49] <wxl> lastly i'd REALLY encourage you to file a bug report. i don't know what conditions result in this occuring but it obviously didn't for a bunch of us here. and i have a feeling the ALSA devs are the only ones that are going to have a clue about where to go with this.
[18:49] <wxl> ipcs -M not -m
[18:49] <wxl> oh
[18:49] <wxl> no
[18:49] <wxl> hold on
[18:49] <wxl> ipcrm -M
[18:49] <wxl> IPC = interprocess communication
[18:49] <wxl> rm = remove ;)
[18:49] <wxl> -M = memory
[18:49] <wxl> -S = semaphore
[18:50] <Listener> wxl: sorry, how do I find my nattach values
[18:50] <wxl> hold a sec
[18:51] <wxl> 0x0056a4d5 748453909  wxl        660        488        2
[18:51] <wxl> 0x0056a4d6 748486678  wxl        660        65536      2
[18:51] <wxl> 0x0056a4d5 469204994  wxl        660        1
[18:51] <wxl> that's the result of:
[18:51] <wxl> ipcs -a | grep 0x0056a4d
[18:51] <wxl> see the two there at the end?
[18:52] <wxl> that's the nattach column
[18:52] <wxl> key | shmid | owner | perms | bytes | nattach | status
[18:52] <Listener> wxl: got it, numm repslt
[18:52] <wxl> um. is that a typo? ;)
[18:53] <Listener> wxl: got it, null result
[18:53] <wxl> null is curious
[18:53] <wxl> i guess null is as good as zero
[18:53] <wxl> nothing's attached
[18:53] <wxl> so now you can do the ipcrm -M and ipcrm -S on the hex values
[18:53] <wxl> e.g. ipcrm -M 0x0056a4d5
[18:55] <wxl> well this was fun :)
[18:55] <Listener> wxl: done
[18:55] <Listener> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[18:55] <Listener> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[18:55] <Listener> aplay: main:682: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[18:55] <wxl> restart alsa
[18:55] <wxl> which is easy: sudo alsa force-reload
[18:56] <Listener> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[18:56] <Listener> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1089:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to initialize sum ring buffer
[18:56] <Listener> aplay: main:682: audio open error: Permission denied
[18:57] <wxl> wow that's fun and new
[18:57] <Listener> wxl: and I am out of time to wrestle with this
[18:57] <Listener> wxl: Thanks for your help
[18:57] <wxl> no prob
[18:58] <Listener> wxl: where should I file the bug report
[18:59] <wxl> well
[18:59] <wxl> you need to file a bug report on something
[18:59] <wxl> since you have no problem with alsamixer
[18:59] <wxl> i'm going to say point the finger at aplay
[18:59] <wxl> so run a:
[18:59] <wxl> ubuntu-bug alsa-utils
[19:01] <wxl> thanks in advance Listener
[19:01] <Listener> wxl: no prob... it'll be filed this afternoon
[19:01] <Listener> ttfn
[19:08] <angrysheep> hrm do you think i could replace PCMan with Nautilus? And if I removed PCMan completely would this harm my system due to PCMan controlling the icons and desktop?
[19:09] <bioterror> yes
[19:09] <angrysheep> to both?
[19:09] <bioterror> yes
[19:09] <Unit193> nautilus --no-desktop, iirc?
[19:10] <angrysheep> Hrm, so that would make nautilus only a file manager?
[19:10] <Unit193> Nautilus likes to take over everything, desktop, etc.
[19:12] <angrysheep> Trying to think of alternitives.. I use LXDE for stability not the lightweight reasons. Just wondering if there is a way to configure them to have a little something extra (already tried replacing openbox with icewm and did not like it)
[19:13] <angrysheep> I guess im using LXDE as a gnome 2 replacement and would love to be able to configure my own happy place that feels and performs like gnome 2
[19:14] <bioterror> move to mate, then
[19:14] <bioterror> they have "caja"
[19:16] <angrysheep> I'm running mate now, but I fear that upstream where it is not supported by lubuntu I may run into issues
[20:12] <xRirishi> Hi
[20:12] <xRirishi> I'm trying to install lubuntu
[20:13] <xRirishi> But I got a black screen with MANY lines in white text
[20:13] <xRirishi> ---[ cut here ]---
[20:14] <bioterror> during bootup or what?
[20:14] <xRirishi> WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-3.2.0/kernel/watchdog.c:241 blabla
[20:14] <xRirishi> Eh I opened the install screen
[20:14] <xRirishi> Selected language and chose to install updates and stuff. Then clicked next
[20:14] <xRirishi> And this showed up
[20:15] <xRirishi> Watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on cpu 0
[20:15] <xRirishi> It says on one of the first lines
[20:15] <xRirishi> And then
[20:16] <xRirishi> Modules linked in: <much text>
[20:19] <bioterror> sounds weird
[20:19] <bioterror> once again :D
[20:19] <bioterror> have you tried reboot and run installer again
[20:21] <xRirishi> XD
[20:21] <xRirishi> Ill try
[20:22] <xRirishi> Oh I got a K8V-F mobo with Radeon 9600
[20:22] <xRirishi> If you need that
[20:26] <xRirishi> And an AMD Athlon 64
[20:26] <xRirishi> 2GHx
[20:26] <xRirishi> GHz*
[20:31] <xRirishi> Trying again now
[20:31] <xRirishi> Hi
[20:33] <n1ckn4me09876543> when I try to update using Update Manager it will search/download stuff but then I get this pop up window message:
[20:33] <n1ckn4me09876543> Failed to download repository information
[20:33] <n1ckn4me09876543> Check your Internet connection.
[20:33] <n1ckn4me09876543> Details W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[20:33] <n1ckn4me09876543> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:33] <n1ckn4me09876543> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:35] <Unit193> You added a PPA that wasn't made for Precise.
[20:36] <xRirishi> I tried to start the installer again, but it had a kernel panic at the point after selecting to install updates or not...
[20:36] <xRirishi> panic occured, switching back to text console. Is the last line
[20:37] <xRirishi> Kernel Panic - Not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt.
[20:37] <xRirishi> What should I do?
[20:38] <n1ckn4me09876543> Unit193, thanks I think i'll remove that
[20:38] <Unit193> !ppa-purge | n1ckn4me09876543
[20:38] <bioterror> xRirishi, try alternate installer
[20:38] <bioterror> xRirishi, I would
[20:39] <xRirishi> What does that do?
[20:39] <bioterror> !alternate | xRirishi
[20:40] <xRirishi> Sigh..
[20:41] <xRirishi> There goes 1.5 hours of downloading again
[20:41] <xRirishi> !minimal
[20:41] <bioterror> :o
[20:42] <xRirishi> Yeah I got 150Kb/s -.-
[20:42] <xRirishi> Im a kid :D
[20:42] <xRirishi> Im 13.
[20:42] <xRirishi> XD
[20:42] <bioterror> niice
[20:43] <xRirishi> Why?
[20:43] <xRirishi> Shall I do ubuntu or lubuntu?
[20:43] <valdur55> yea nice! Many young pepole don't like linux.
[20:43] <bioterror> lubuntu, ofcourse!
[20:44] <xRirishi> Ok
[20:44] <bioterror> miniman is my personal favourite!
[20:44] <bioterror> minimal even
[20:44] <xRirishi> Why valdur55
[20:44] <xRirishi> IDK if I like it
[20:44] <xRirishi> It seems not to like my PC -.-
[20:45] <xRirishi> I got a "seemingly" 64 bit AMD
[20:45] <xRirishi> but..
[20:45] <xRirishi> A friend tells me to try 32 bit
[20:45] <xRirishi> Shall I do it?
[20:45] <bioterror> if you dont have 4GB of RAM, it you dont get much benefits of the 64bit
[20:46] <xRirishi> O lol
[20:46] <xRirishi> I got 2 GB
[20:46] <bioterror> I would go with the x86
[20:46] <xRirishi> Ok
[20:47] <n1ckn4me09876543> Unit193: yep got it, thank you.
[20:47] <Ririshi> hey
[20:47] <Ririshi> This is me on my PC
[20:47] <Ririshi> I was on my iPod
[20:49] <Ririshi> can someone link me to the minimal x86 lubuntu?
[20:49] <Ririshi> I cant find it :p
[20:50] <holstein> i would just use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PC_.28x86.29
[20:51] <holstein> and install lubuntu-desktop.. im not aware of an official "lubuntu minimal"
[20:54] <Ririshi> how can i install lubuntu desktop when i can only download ubuntu on this site?
[20:56] <xRirishi> ?!
[20:59] <Ririshi_> Is someone there
[21:00] <Ririshi> Sigh.
[21:01] <valdur55> Ririshi, is your ISO ok ? Check witch md5sum
[21:01] <Ririshi> I DIDN'T DOWNLOAD ANYTHING -.-
[21:01] <Ririshi> lol
[21:02] <Ririshi> I ask you: how can i install lubuntu if I download Ubuntu from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PC_.28x86.29
[21:04] <Ririshi> I'll try Ubuntu mini.
[21:05] <valdur55> Ririshi, boot from cd and hit any key when you see Man and keyboard. Then select "check disk for defects"
[21:05] <Ririshi> Thank you. I will try.
[21:07] <bioterror> Ririshi, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[21:07] <bioterror> if you have installed minimal
[21:07] <Ririshi> Eh.. totally new to linux/anything..
[21:08] <Ririshi> how to do that command?
[21:10] <Ririshi_> Wow
[21:10] <Ririshi_> Weird sound came outta my pc 0.0
[21:14] <Ririshi_> The minimal seems to work...
[21:14] <bioterror> ofcourse ;)
[21:14] <Ririshi_> Hope it'll work :D
[21:14] <Ririshi_> I got past archive server
[21:14] <Ririshi_> Its loading installationmodules arm
[21:14] <Ririshi_> Atm*
[21:15] <Ririshi_> Sorry if my english is bad.. i'm Dutch
[21:17] <kanliot> ririshi have you tried the alternate cd?
[21:17] <kanliot> it's good for low-ram pcs
[21:17] <Ririshi_> What is low ram?
[21:18] <kanliot> depends
[21:18] <kanliot> why are you using the minimal?
[21:18] <Ririshi_> How should I do the HDD partitions?
[21:18] <kanliot> root and swap
[21:18] <kanliot> 2 partitions
[21:18] <bioterror> Ririshi_, 1.5x the RAM for swap and and rest  for /
[21:18] <Ririshi_> What?!
[21:18] <Ririshi_> ARGH
[21:18] <bioterror> :D
[21:18] <bioterror> use auto
[21:19] <bioterror> it will do
[21:19] <Ririshi_> Will it wipe my previous windows?
[21:19] <kanliot> how much RAM do you have?
[21:19] <bioterror> Ririshi_, ofcourse it will :D
[21:19] <Ririshi_> I dont want it to...
[21:19] <Ririshi_> I'll do manual
[21:20] <bioterror> there should be option for "side by side"
[21:20] <kanliot> hes doing minimal right?
[21:20] <Ririshi_> Yeah
[21:22] <Ririshi_> So I got my 140GB free space
[21:22] <Ririshi_> How should I make it?
[21:22] <bioterror> Ririshi_, 4GB for swap and rest for /
[21:22] <Ririshi_> Prim or logic?
[21:22] <Ririshi_> Type of the new partition
[21:22] <Ririshi_> ..
[21:23] <bioterror> ext2
[21:23] <bioterror> sorry
[21:23] <Ririshi_> Eh
[21:23] <bioterror> ext4 :D
[21:23] <Ririshi_> Wtf.
[21:23] <bioterror> filesystem is ext4
[21:23] <Ririshi_> I got primair and logic?
[21:23] <bioterror> primary
[21:23] <Ririshi_> Ok
[21:23] <Ririshi_> Begin or end?
[21:23] <bioterror> begin
[21:24] <Ririshi_> Ext4? For the 4GB swap
[21:24] <bioterror> no
[21:24] <bioterror> swap is swap
[21:24] <bioterror> ext4 for the /
[21:24] <Ririshi_> Swap area? (i got installer i dutch)
[21:25] <Ririshi_> And now for the other 136GB
[21:25] <Ririshi_> Ext4?
[21:25] <bioterror> yes
[21:26] <Ririshi_> On / and no label?
[21:26] <bioterror> and when it asks for mount point, you tell /
[21:26] <Ririshi_> And mount options?
[21:26] <Ririshi_> Default?
[21:26] <bioterror> yes
[21:26] <Ririshi_> Label?
[21:26] <bioterror> you can label it as "root" without ""
[21:27] <Ririshi_> Eh how do you translate this..
[21:27] <Ririshi_> Typical use
[21:27] <Ririshi_> Its on standard noe
[21:27] <Ririshi_> Now*
[21:28] <Ririshi_> Bootable-flag on?
[21:28] <bioterror> yeah
[21:30] <Ririshi_> Its partitioning
[21:30] <Ririshi_> Basic system is getting installed
[21:30] <Ririshi_> Being*
[21:31] <Ririshi_> What is dpkg?
[21:31] <bioterror> deb k
[21:31] <Ririshi_> Err
[21:31] <bioterror> debian package manager
[21:31] <Ririshi_> Ah
[21:31] <Ririshi_> :p
[21:31] <Ririshi_> I'm totally new
[21:32] <bioterror> like we all was one day
[21:32] <bioterror> you're taking the best step for this :D
[21:32] <bioterror> like how I did my fist installations
[21:32] <bioterror> (I still do them like that, mostly)
[21:32] <Ririshi_> It would be totally fxck'd if I just formatted my windows lol
[21:33] <Ririshi_> Everything really needed is on there xD
[21:33] <Ririshi_> Like school stuff and all that
[21:33] <bioterror> :D
[21:33] <Ririshi_> -_______________________-
[21:34] <Ririshi_> Lol it gets many different stuff.. Bur it keeps at 6% lol
[21:34] <Ririshi_> But*
[21:40] <Ririshi_> Wooo
[21:40] <Ririshi_> 83%
[21:40] <Ririshi_> Downloading a package.
[22:17] <Ririshi> Hey
[22:17] <Ririshi> I installed it.
[22:18] <Ririshi> But... I said to install it in the MBR. But it automaticaly starts windows..
[22:19] <Ririshi> And i tried to press F8 and choose the right HD. Now I'm at a screen with: "error: no such partition. grub rescue>"
[22:19] <kanliot> you need to install grub to your right hard drive
[22:20] <kanliot> i'd help, but you don't have backups
[22:20] <Ririshi> Huh?
[22:20] <Ririshi> I installed grub to the "primary" drive with the win 7 loader
[22:21] <Ririshi> Now what can i do?
[22:21] <Ririshi> Grub rescue> _
[22:21] <Ririshi> How to manually start it? Or something..
[22:24] <Ririshi> Eh..
[22:25] <Ririshi> I'm in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS <pc name> tty1
[22:25] <Ririshi> How to start ubuntu itself
[22:25] <kanliot> you can also try #ubuntu for help
[22:26] <Ririshi> Ok
[22:35] <bioterror> Ririshi, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[22:35] <bioterror> Ririshi, run that command
[22:35] <bioterror> I would also run sudo apt-get update, before that command
[22:35] <bioterror> Ririshi, sorry, I passed out on a sofa :D
[22:36] <Ririshi> How?
[22:36] <Ririshi> How do I run it,
[22:38] <Ririshi> Passed out again? >.<
[22:38] <Ririshi> TRING BUZZZZZZZZ
[22:39] <Ririshi> Okay....
[22:39] <Ririshi> I got into grub by booting from usb..
[22:39] <Ririshi> Now I pressed ubuntu and monitor turned off..
[22:40] <Ririshi> Sigh -.-
[22:40] <Ririshi> My monitor just doesnt get a signal..
[22:44] <Ririshi> Hmm
[22:44] <Ririshi> I got into recoverymode and opened a terminal
[22:45] <Ririshi> Then did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[22:47] <Ririshi> Now its installing
[22:50] <Ririshi> Everyones dead -.-
[22:59] <Ririshi> Hey
[23:00] <Ririshi> I'm installing the lubuntu-desktop package from recovery terminal and during the , my screen went black?
[23:02] <angrysheep> hrm in lubuntu how do you replace openbox with metacity? I am able to do it in pclinuxos but they have special configuration tools
[23:04] <angrysheep> I also failed switching PCman with Nautilus, I edited the deasktop.config file and rebooted and nothing
[23:05] <angrysheep> *desktop
[23:12] <Ririshi> Sigh
[23:23] <Cullens> hum hello ?
[23:24] <Ririshi> Hi
[23:25] <Cullens> can you help the noob I am on lubuntu ?
[23:25] <Ririshi> I am afraid I cannot
[23:25] <valdur55> !ask
[23:27] <Cullens> fine... I have installed Lubuntu after seeing ubuntu was too heavy for my computer... the problem is that lubuntu works, but when i want to go on internet (by chromium or firefox) it just freezes
[23:29] <valdur55> How much ram you have?
[23:29] <Cullens> good question...
[23:31] <Cullens> 4Go
[23:32] <valdur55> free -m
[23:32] <Ririshi> Valdur?
[23:32] <valdur55> On lxterminal.
[23:33] <Ririshi> I got ubuntu minimal installed and I try to install lubuntu-desktop, but I keep getting kernel panics.. What to do
[23:34] <valdur55> Ririshi, you can run live-cd ?
[23:35] <Ririshi> As in start a live session thing?
[23:35] <Ririshi> I'm afraid that will kernel-panic too, as soon as I click 3 times
[23:35] <Cullens> (doesn't do anything...)
[23:36] <valdur55> Ririshi, reboot computer and when you see Man and Keyboard then hit Space. Then open "check disk for errors" and you may need check your RAM...  And next time use memdisk
[23:36] <valdur55> Cullens, it should give some outpud
[23:37] <Cullens> it's difficult... i can't give them to you... i'm on another computer
[23:37] <Ririshi> Whats memdisk
[23:37] <Cullens> 3020
[23:38] <valdur55> Total mem :)
[23:38] <Cullens> yeap 3020
[23:40] <valdur55> Cullens, grep name /proc/cpuinfo
[23:41] <Ririshi> Valdur: I don't see any men with keyboards
[23:41] <Cullens> pentium (R) Dual Core CPU T4200  2.00GHz
[23:43] <valdur55> Ririshi, i don't have solution for kernel panics.
[23:43] <Ririshi> Sigh ):
[23:43] <valdur55> Cullens, type top to terminal
[23:44] <valdur55> Cullens, and then open firefox / chromium-browser
[23:45] <Cullens> done
[23:45] <valdur55> what happens ?
[23:46] <Cullens> nothing...
[23:46] <valdur55> does it frezee ?
[23:46] <Cullens> on chromium yeap...
[23:47] <Cullens> it works with google search, but then impossible to do anything else
[23:47] <valdur55> put terminal window as allways on top.
[23:48] <valdur55> and then look what happens...
[23:48] <Cullens> ok
[23:48] <valdur55> Maybe your settings are bad?
[23:49] <Cullens> what could be bad...? i just installed lubuntu an hour ago
[23:51] <valdur55> ChanServ, ok... is it default conf?
[23:51] <Cullens> I just followed everything which was written...
[23:57] <valdur55> Damn... your perfomance is nice... I have machine with lower spec and i don't have problems
[23:57] <Cullens> well... i didn't have any problem before I installed linux...