=== CTtechguy__ is now known as CTtechguy === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial [15:24] ubuntu-one says The authentication failed. when i try to login please help [15:26] MassiveTR: bad credentials. try resetting the password [15:26] ill try [15:34] it still says the authentication failed [16:36] Good morning, sound has disappeared from my otherwise perfectly working system. Any thoughts as to how to troubleshoot this? === LordOfTime is now known as TheLordOfTime [18:05] So, I have this odd problem, I am only able to play music as root. Yes, I am a member of the audio group. [18:12] Listener, sounds quite weird [18:15] bioterror: I think so. [18:16] is this a default lubuntu installation? [18:16] as you seem to have root account enabled and probably logged in? [18:17] bioterror: "sudo aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" works [18:17] bioterror: "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" does not [18:18] bioterror: yes, default lubuntu, up to date [18:18] ls -lh /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav [18:18] hmmm [18:18] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1995103 [18:19] not the only one [18:19] bioterror: misery loves company [18:20] ^^ Listener [18:22] Listener, what if you run alsamixer with your user? [18:22] not as root [18:22] just as a regular user [18:22] nothing is muted and so on? [18:23] and do we know this is not a permissions problem for some reason? can't imagine it would be, but… [18:23] maybe a cp /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav ~/ is in order [18:23] I would start with the alsamixer [18:23] bioterror: alsamixer seem to run fine as either user or root [18:24] and nothing is muted? [18:24] as I stated, do not run as root [18:24] and what's the output of aplay without root? [18:24] ^ yes tat [18:25] bioterror: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:985:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to create IPC semaphore [18:25] aplay: main:682: audio open error: Permission denied [18:25] ooh fu [18:25] hoho [18:25] n [18:27] O_O http://darkness.codefu.org/wordpress/2007/12/linux-audio-strikes-back/ [18:29] wxl: I saw that... [18:29] i think that's your solution, as crazy as it sounds [18:30] 2007? :D [18:30] I would reinstall soundcard [18:30] i hear what you're saying, however, i still see that same problem all across the internets [18:31] wxl: no longer a \etc\alsa directory [18:32] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4130234/connecting-to-alsa [18:33] wxl: err /etc/alsa [18:36] wxl: yeah, I saw that too, but I don't seem to have an .asoundrc file [18:37] grep ipc_key /usr/share/alsa/* [18:38] wxl: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf:defaults.pcm.ipc_key 5678293 [18:38] same as me [18:39] to get hex: printf '%x\n' 5678293 [18:39] 56a4d5 [18:39] wxl: that's a nice trick [18:40] wxl: least i learned something today [18:40] same thing with dude, i see 56a4d5 and 56a4d6 [18:41] although nattach column for me is 2 [18:41] if it's worth anything let me know, i'll put it on the wiki [18:42] sorry but i'm already late [18:42] i'm thinking this is less wiki and more bug report [18:42] seems pernicious across many distros [18:42] and the reason is not clear [18:42] :) [18:44] Listener: what are your nattach values? [18:44] those are attached processes [18:45] you probably don't want to mess with removing those memory assignments if it's non-zero ;) [18:46] if it's zero run ipcrm -M and ipcrm -S on the hex value [18:46] then supposedly audio worked but the comment suggests restarting alsa which may be necessary [18:47] which is easy: sudo alsa force-reload [18:48] wxl: ipcs -m? [18:49] lastly i'd REALLY encourage you to file a bug report. i don't know what conditions result in this occuring but it obviously didn't for a bunch of us here. and i have a feeling the ALSA devs are the only ones that are going to have a clue about where to go with this. [18:49] ipcs -M not -m [18:49] oh [18:49] no [18:49] hold on [18:49] ipcrm -M [18:49] IPC = interprocess communication [18:49] rm = remove ;) [18:49] -M = memory [18:49] -S = semaphore [18:50] wxl: sorry, how do I find my nattach values [18:50] hold a sec [18:51] 0x0056a4d5 748453909 wxl 660 488 2 [18:51] 0x0056a4d6 748486678 wxl 660 65536 2 [18:51] 0x0056a4d5 469204994 wxl 660 1 [18:51] that's the result of: [18:51] ipcs -a | grep 0x0056a4d [18:51] see the two there at the end? [18:52] that's the nattach column [18:52] key | shmid | owner | perms | bytes | nattach | status [18:52] wxl: got it, numm repslt [18:52] um. is that a typo? ;) [18:53] wxl: got it, null result [18:53] null is curious [18:53] i guess null is as good as zero [18:53] nothing's attached [18:53] so now you can do the ipcrm -M and ipcrm -S on the hex values [18:53] e.g. ipcrm -M 0x0056a4d5 [18:55] well this was fun :) [18:55] wxl: done [18:55] aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav [18:55] ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave [18:55] aplay: main:682: audio open error: Device or resource busy [18:55] restart alsa [18:55] which is easy: sudo alsa force-reload [18:56] aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav [18:56] ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1089:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to initialize sum ring buffer [18:56] aplay: main:682: audio open error: Permission denied [18:57] wow that's fun and new [18:57] wxl: and I am out of time to wrestle with this [18:57] wxl: Thanks for your help [18:57] no prob [18:58] wxl: where should I file the bug report [18:59] well [18:59] you need to file a bug report on something [18:59] since you have no problem with alsamixer [18:59] i'm going to say point the finger at aplay [18:59] so run a: [18:59] ubuntu-bug alsa-utils [19:01] thanks in advance Listener [19:01] wxl: no prob... it'll be filed this afternoon [19:01] ttfn [19:08] hrm do you think i could replace PCMan with Nautilus? And if I removed PCMan completely would this harm my system due to PCMan controlling the icons and desktop? [19:09] yes [19:09] to both? [19:09] yes [19:09] nautilus --no-desktop, iirc? [19:10] Hrm, so that would make nautilus only a file manager? [19:10] Nautilus likes to take over everything, desktop, etc. [19:12] Trying to think of alternitives.. I use LXDE for stability not the lightweight reasons. Just wondering if there is a way to configure them to have a little something extra (already tried replacing openbox with icewm and did not like it) [19:13] I guess im using LXDE as a gnome 2 replacement and would love to be able to configure my own happy place that feels and performs like gnome 2 [19:14] move to mate, then [19:14] they have "caja" [19:16] I'm running mate now, but I fear that upstream where it is not supported by lubuntu I may run into issues [20:12] Hi [20:12] I'm trying to install lubuntu [20:13] But I got a black screen with MANY lines in white text [20:13] ---[ cut here ]--- [20:14] during bootup or what? [20:14] WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-3.2.0/kernel/watchdog.c:241 blabla [20:14] Eh I opened the install screen [20:14] Selected language and chose to install updates and stuff. Then clicked next [20:14] And this showed up [20:15] Watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on cpu 0 [20:15] It says on one of the first lines [20:15] And then [20:16] Modules linked in: [20:19] sounds weird [20:19] once again :D [20:19] have you tried reboot and run installer again [20:21] XD [20:21] Ill try [20:22] Oh I got a K8V-F mobo with Radeon 9600 [20:22] If you need that [20:26] And an AMD Athlon 64 [20:26] 2GHx [20:26] GHz* [20:31] Trying again now [20:31] Hi [20:33] when I try to update using Update Manager it will search/download stuff but then I get this pop up window message: [20:33] Failed to download repository information [20:33] Check your Internet connection. [20:33] Details W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [20:33] , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [20:33] , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [20:35] You added a PPA that wasn't made for Precise. [20:36] I tried to start the installer again, but it had a kernel panic at the point after selecting to install updates or not... [20:36] panic occured, switching back to text console. Is the last line [20:37] Kernel Panic - Not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt. [20:37] What should I do? [20:38] Unit193, thanks I think i'll remove that [20:38] !ppa-purge | n1ckn4me09876543 [20:38] n1ckn4me09876543: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [20:38] xRirishi, try alternate installer [20:38] xRirishi, I would [20:39] What does that do? [20:39] !alternate | xRirishi [20:39] xRirishi: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal [20:40] Sigh.. [20:41] There goes 1.5 hours of downloading again [20:41] !minimal [20:41] :o [20:41] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [20:42] Yeah I got 150Kb/s -.- [20:42] Im a kid :D [20:42] Im 13. [20:42] XD [20:42] niice [20:43] Why? [20:43] Shall I do ubuntu or lubuntu? [20:43] yea nice! Many young pepole don't like linux. [20:43] lubuntu, ofcourse! [20:44] Ok [20:44] miniman is my personal favourite! [20:44] minimal even [20:44] Why valdur55 [20:44] IDK if I like it [20:44] It seems not to like my PC -.- [20:45] I got a "seemingly" 64 bit AMD [20:45] but.. [20:45] A friend tells me to try 32 bit [20:45] Shall I do it? [20:45] if you dont have 4GB of RAM, it you dont get much benefits of the 64bit [20:46] O lol [20:46] I got 2 GB [20:46] I would go with the x86 [20:46] Ok [20:47] Unit193: yep got it, thank you. [20:47] hey [20:47] This is me on my PC [20:47] I was on my iPod [20:49] can someone link me to the minimal x86 lubuntu? [20:49] I cant find it :p [20:50] i would just use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PC_.28x86.29 [20:51] and install lubuntu-desktop.. im not aware of an official "lubuntu minimal" [20:54] how can i install lubuntu desktop when i can only download ubuntu on this site? [20:56] ?! === xRirishi is now known as Ririshi_ [20:59] Is someone there [21:00] Sigh. [21:01] Ririshi, is your ISO ok ? Check witch md5sum [21:01] I DIDN'T DOWNLOAD ANYTHING -.- [21:01] lol [21:02] I ask you: how can i install lubuntu if I download Ubuntu from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PC_.28x86.29 [21:04] I'll try Ubuntu mini. [21:05] Ririshi, boot from cd and hit any key when you see Man and keyboard. Then select "check disk for defects" [21:05] Thank you. I will try. [21:07] Ririshi, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop [21:07] if you have installed minimal [21:07] Eh.. totally new to linux/anything.. [21:08] how to do that command? [21:10] Wow [21:10] Weird sound came outta my pc 0.0 [21:14] The minimal seems to work... [21:14] ofcourse ;) [21:14] Hope it'll work :D [21:14] I got past archive server [21:14] Its loading installationmodules arm [21:14] Atm* [21:15] Sorry if my english is bad.. i'm Dutch [21:17] ririshi have you tried the alternate cd? [21:17] it's good for low-ram pcs [21:17] What is low ram? [21:18] depends [21:18] why are you using the minimal? [21:18] How should I do the HDD partitions? [21:18] root and swap [21:18] 2 partitions [21:18] Ririshi_, 1.5x the RAM for swap and and rest for / [21:18] What?! [21:18] ARGH [21:18] :D [21:18] use auto [21:19] it will do [21:19] Will it wipe my previous windows? [21:19] how much RAM do you have? [21:19] Ririshi_, ofcourse it will :D [21:19] I dont want it to... [21:19] I'll do manual [21:20] there should be option for "side by side" [21:20] hes doing minimal right? [21:20] Yeah [21:22] So I got my 140GB free space [21:22] How should I make it? [21:22] Ririshi_, 4GB for swap and rest for / [21:22] Prim or logic? [21:22] Type of the new partition [21:22] .. [21:23] ext2 [21:23] sorry [21:23] Eh [21:23] ext4 :D [21:23] Wtf. [21:23] filesystem is ext4 [21:23] I got primair and logic? [21:23] primary [21:23] Ok [21:23] Begin or end? [21:23] begin [21:24] Ext4? For the 4GB swap [21:24] no [21:24] swap is swap [21:24] ext4 for the / [21:24] Swap area? (i got installer i dutch) [21:25] And now for the other 136GB [21:25] Ext4? [21:25] yes [21:26] On / and no label? [21:26] and when it asks for mount point, you tell / [21:26] And mount options? [21:26] Default? [21:26] yes [21:26] Label? [21:26] you can label it as "root" without "" [21:27] Eh how do you translate this.. [21:27] Typical use [21:27] Its on standard noe [21:27] Now* [21:28] Bootable-flag on? [21:28] yeah [21:30] Its partitioning [21:30] Basic system is getting installed [21:30] Being* [21:31] What is dpkg? [21:31] deb k [21:31] Err [21:31] debian package manager [21:31] Ah [21:31] :p [21:31] I'm totally new [21:32] like we all was one day [21:32] you're taking the best step for this :D [21:32] like how I did my fist installations [21:32] (I still do them like that, mostly) [21:32] It would be totally fxck'd if I just formatted my windows lol [21:33] Everything really needed is on there xD [21:33] Like school stuff and all that [21:33] :D [21:33] -_______________________- [21:34] Lol it gets many different stuff.. Bur it keeps at 6% lol [21:34] But* [21:40] Wooo [21:40] 83% [21:40] Downloading a package. === Ririshi_ is now known as Ririshi [22:17] Hey [22:17] I installed it. [22:18] But... I said to install it in the MBR. But it automaticaly starts windows.. [22:19] And i tried to press F8 and choose the right HD. Now I'm at a screen with: "error: no such partition. grub rescue>" [22:19] you need to install grub to your right hard drive [22:20] i'd help, but you don't have backups [22:20] Huh? [22:20] I installed grub to the "primary" drive with the win 7 loader [22:21] Now what can i do? [22:21] Grub rescue> _ [22:21] How to manually start it? Or something.. [22:24] Eh.. [22:25] I'm in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS tty1 [22:25] How to start ubuntu itself [22:25] you can also try #ubuntu for help [22:26] Ok [22:35] Ririshi, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop [22:35] Ririshi, run that command [22:35] I would also run sudo apt-get update, before that command [22:35] Ririshi, sorry, I passed out on a sofa :D [22:36] How? [22:36] How do I run it, [22:38] Passed out again? >.< [22:38] TRING BUZZZZZZZZ [22:39] Okay.... [22:39] I got into grub by booting from usb.. [22:39] Now I pressed ubuntu and monitor turned off.. [22:40] Sigh -.- [22:40] My monitor just doesnt get a signal.. [22:44] Hmm [22:44] I got into recoverymode and opened a terminal [22:45] Then did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop [22:47] Now its installing [22:50] Everyones dead -.- [22:59] Hey [23:00] I'm installing the lubuntu-desktop package from recovery terminal and during the , my screen went black? [23:02] hrm in lubuntu how do you replace openbox with metacity? I am able to do it in pclinuxos but they have special configuration tools [23:04] I also failed switching PCman with Nautilus, I edited the deasktop.config file and rebooted and nothing [23:05] *desktop [23:12] Sigh [23:23] hum hello ? [23:24] Hi [23:25] can you help the noob I am on lubuntu ? [23:25] I am afraid I cannot [23:25] !ask [23:25] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [23:27] fine... I have installed Lubuntu after seeing ubuntu was too heavy for my computer... the problem is that lubuntu works, but when i want to go on internet (by chromium or firefox) it just freezes [23:29] How much ram you have? [23:29] good question... [23:31] 4Go [23:32] free -m [23:32] Valdur? [23:32] On lxterminal. [23:33] I got ubuntu minimal installed and I try to install lubuntu-desktop, but I keep getting kernel panics.. What to do [23:34] Ririshi, you can run live-cd ? [23:35] As in start a live session thing? [23:35] I'm afraid that will kernel-panic too, as soon as I click 3 times [23:35] (doesn't do anything...) [23:36] Ririshi, reboot computer and when you see Man and Keyboard then hit Space. Then open "check disk for errors" and you may need check your RAM... And next time use memdisk [23:36] Cullens, it should give some outpud [23:37] it's difficult... i can't give them to you... i'm on another computer [23:37] Whats memdisk [23:37] 3020 [23:38] Total mem :) [23:38] yeap 3020 [23:40] Cullens, grep name /proc/cpuinfo [23:41] Valdur: I don't see any men with keyboards [23:41] pentium (R) Dual Core CPU T4200 2.00GHz [23:43] Ririshi, i don't have solution for kernel panics. [23:43] Sigh ): [23:43] Cullens, type top to terminal [23:44] Cullens, and then open firefox / chromium-browser [23:45] done [23:45] what happens ? [23:46] nothing... [23:46]