[00:11] <dupondje> Some package versions are newer in Precise than Quantal ?!
[00:11] <dupondje> that shouldn't be the case I guess ?
[00:15] <FernandoMiguel> no it shouldn't  :\
[00:15] <FernandoMiguel> which ones?
[00:16] <FernandoMiguel> maybe your repo isn't update, dupondje
[00:18] <dupondje> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9
[00:19] <FernandoMiguel> info bind
[00:19] <FernandoMiguel> !info bind
[00:19] <FernandoMiguel> !info precise bind9
[00:19] <FernandoMiguel> !info bind9
[00:20] <gnomefreak> anyone else getting a "crash" on loading unity
[00:20] <FernandoMiguel> why are we getting results of precise in this chat room?
[00:20] <FernandoMiguel> gnomefreak: no more than usual
[00:20] <gnomefreak> FernandoMiguel: please use /msg ubottu
[00:21] <gnomefreak> FernandoMiguel: we havingt added new facts yet   give me a moment
[00:21] <FernandoMiguel> gnomefreak: k
[00:21] <FernandoMiguel> dupondje: seems to be a security fix
[00:21] <FernandoMiguel> I assume the quantal will get it soon
[00:21] <dupondje> Its uploaded 3 weeks ago ...
[00:22] <gnomefreak> what fix?
[00:22] <dupondje> gnomefreak: bind9
[00:22] <gnomefreak> oh
[00:22] <dupondje> newer version in precise then in quantal
[00:22] <gnomefreak> lol
[00:23] <gnomefreak> maybe in proposed or backports maybe why that is
[00:23] <gnomefreak> it is the same version
[00:23] <Daekdroom> It's in updates and security.
[00:24] <gnomefreak> Candidate: 1:9.8.1.dfsg.P1-4
[00:24] <Daekdroom> There are 2 security patches in precise
[00:24] <Daekdroom> Same version but no fix in quantal.
[00:25] <Daekdroom> The patches were backported from upstream, however. It is possible that quantal gets the newer version at some point.
[00:26] <dupondje> Daekdroom: "it is POSSIBLE" :)
[00:26] <dupondje> but now its missing a security patch ...
[00:26] <Daekdroom> I know what I said.
[00:29] <Daekdroom> I can't find any bug report on launchpad regarding that.
[00:35] <gnomefreak> that sucked
[00:46] <gnomefreak> anyone else getting a 403 on dpkg update version 1.16.3ubuntu1
[00:48] <gnomefreak> i cant get past it
[00:48] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[00:52] <trism> gnomefreak: I imagine it is related (to avoid temporarily) bug 1015329
[00:55] <gnomefreak> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main dpkg i386 1.16.3ubuntu1 403  Forbidden [IP: 91.189.92.177 80]
[00:55] <gnomefreak> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.16.3ubuntu1_i386.deb  403  Forbidden [IP: 91.189.92.177 80]
[00:55] <gnomefreak> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[00:55] <gnomefreak> trism: ^^ i dont think it is the same
[00:55] <gnomefreak> but looking anyway
[00:57] <gnomefreak> i guess i report it
[00:58] <trism> gnomefreak: not the same, but my guess is they changed permissions so other people won't update to that version until it is fixed (since that is the version with the bug)
[00:58] <gnomefreak> makes sense thanks
[00:59] <gnomefreak> i will hold off filing it until *ubuntu2
[01:15] <gnomefreak> ok think i caught up on my updates without dpkg update, smoke
[01:22] <gnomefreak> seems cups crashes all over the place
[01:25] <gnomefreak> if you leave evo updates alone and dpkg alone you can update all other packages without much of an issue. the cups crashes do nothing to impeed updates
[01:28] <bjsnider> impede
[01:31] <gnomefreak> yeah that :)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> thanks
[02:43] <cccangel> guys, would compiling a more recent linux kernel like 3.4.3 for ubuntu 12.04 lts break any dependencies that I am unaware of?
[12:19] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[19:26] <FernandoMiguel>  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch but it is not installable
[19:26] <FernandoMiguel> I guess we are having a dependency breakage daily
[19:32] <yofel> I had fun with bug 1015616 today, upgrade with care I guess
[19:36] <trism> yofel: looks like bug 1015567 which I saw a bit earlier
[19:37] <yofel> yup
[19:37] <yofel> thx
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel> which I add yesterday
[19:41] <FernandoMiguel> and fixed today
[19:43] <genii-around> Is there a preferred bug number to add to for "mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable package instances present"  ?
[19:44] <FernandoMiguel> let me check mine
[19:45] <trism> FernandoMiguel: I think it might be a different bug (although similar looking) from yours yesterday, since this is against 1.16.3ubuntu2 (yours was 1.16.3ubuntu1 unless you added another one later)
[19:45] <FernandoMiguel> btw, about UEFI we were talking last week. here is a video https://plus.google.com/109386511629819124958/posts/dmVUQwPZSRQ
[19:45] <FernandoMiguel> trism: AH
[19:45] <yofel> bug 1015329
[19:46] <FernandoMiguel> I had https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1015329
[19:46] <FernandoMiguel> yofel: correcrt
[19:46] <yofel> looked up the changelog
[19:47] <yofel> the coinstallable bug is different. Fun part is that it renders dpkg utterly useless unless you fix the status file
[19:48] <FernandoMiguel> I had that with cups over a month ago
[19:48] <FernandoMiguel> trying to fix it, lead me to do a clean install
[19:48] <yofel> ouch
[19:51] <genii-around> yofel: I was getting it with libsdl, followed the fix to change Multi-Arch to same. Then it complained about wine1.4 and libsane-common. When apt-get -f install it reverts back to complaining about libsdl-net1.2:i386 again.
[19:51] <yofel> o.O
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel> bbl , dinner
[19:57] <genii-around> Is this a bug which seems to be affecting only 64bit ?
[19:58] <Pici> You're using apt-get right, not aptitude?
[20:00] <genii-around> Pici: Me, yes.
[20:00] <Pici> genii-around: okay, just making sure ;)
[20:00] <Pici> !aptitude | for those who don't know
[20:02] <MrChrisDruif> Ugh...I can't install lilypond....or gnome for that matter
[20:02] <MrChrisDruif> I reported a bug for the latter
[20:08] <yofel> genii-around: it would be 64bit only as this is about multiarch
[20:12] <dupondje> Do we have bumblebee or something as default now in Quantal ? or
[20:17] <phoenix_firebrd> should i use ubuntu+1 for kde 4.9 betas ?
[20:18] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: are you there>
[20:18] <yofel> you could use the beta backports too, but +1 works fine except for some dpkg hiccups today
[20:19] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: i mean the channel
[20:19] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: you tested 4.9 beta 2 right>
[20:19] <yofel> ah, no, only if you're actually running quantal
[20:19] <yofel> I'm on beta2 yes
[20:20] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: can you check if microbloging is working for twitter?
[20:20] <yofel> the applet?
[20:20] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: ya
[20:20] <yofel> sec
[20:21] <yofel> crash
[20:22] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: right even for me
[20:22] <dupondje> Do we have something to support Optimus now in Quantal ?
[20:22] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: kmix is also malfunctioning, both have the save issue
[20:22] <yofel> kmix works fine, but it had some issues in 4.8 as well that I didn't have
[20:23] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: " X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3' this is the error message
[20:23] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: its not with the muti channel audio
[20:23] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: is that an upstream bug or local one?
[20:24] <yofel> well, it works fine for me. Only crashes I get is kdeµblog and the battery applet config (fixed in master)
[20:24] <yofel> kdeµblog seems like an upstream bug from my crash
[20:25] <yofel> http://paste.kde.org/504812
[20:25] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: checking
[20:29] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: i cant figure out anything can you take a look at my error log?
[20:30] <yofel> sure
[20:30] <yofel> if I add the applet again it doesn't crash - but instead simply doesn't work
[20:31] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: same here
[20:31] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel:  this is a partial log http://paste.kde.org/504824/
[20:31] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel:  what is causing this error "X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3"
[20:33] <yofel> no idea, I don't know how to debug X errors
[20:34] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: i should tell you  i am using nvidia proprietary driver, that is a one good source of bugs
[20:35] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel:  so shall i file a bug?
[20:35] <yofel> probably (linus would agree) - but nouveau isn't that much better here
[20:35] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: true
[20:35] <yofel> feel free to
[20:35] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: on my way
[20:45] <genii-around> Hm. "blah-blah depends dpkg:i386" on a 64bit system
[20:51] <genii-around> What is odd... all the 32bit packages it complains about.. if you do for instance apt-cache policy whatever:i386 for those, they have no installation candidates
[20:53] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel:  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302267
[21:56] <genii-around> OK. So after it hits the libsdl-net1.2 entry in /var/lib/dpkg/status , it doesn't get to read all the entries that come after that, where in this case dpkg is.
[22:09] <genii-around> In /var/lib/dpkg/status, I removed the stanzas for: libsdl-net1.2, libsdl-image1.2, xaw3dg, and libsdl-ttf2.0-0. I was able then to complete the apt-get -f install, then a dist-upgrade. After this was able to reinstall them.