[07:17] <dholbach> good morning
[07:18] <dpm> good morning dholbach and all
[07:20] <dholbach> hey dpm
[07:28]  * ajmitch waves
[09:35] <tvnmsk> I dont know if this is the right place to mention this but the link for "unity integration"-video is incorrect, it points to a different video location
[09:41] <dpm> tvnmsk, that's the right place, let me have a look...
[09:42] <tvnmsk> it redirects me to the video of the first day, the last session
[09:46] <dpm> tvnmsk, fixed it now, you might need to reload the page to see the changes. Thanks for the heads up!
[10:36] <pappijo> how can I delete a dialog created with quickly?
[14:02] <__h__> hi, anyone?
[14:07] <dpm> hi __h__
[14:24] <__h__> dpm: hi! any idea of what would be the best approach to get a countdown widget into an app, that is animated...
[14:24] <__h__> dpm: i mean, the countdown widget would be animated
[14:24] <dpm> gotcha
[14:26] <__h__> dpm: http://cnanney.com/journal/code/apple-style-counter-revisited/
[14:33] <dpm> __h__, it all depends on the toolkit of choice. If you are using Qt, that would probably be really easy to do with QML. If you are using Qt, you can probably do some sort of animation with Cairo, or if you want proper animation, then Clutter
[14:34] <__h__> dpm:  are Cairo and Clutter Qt specific?
[14:38] <dpm> __h__, there are independent of the toolkit, if I'm not mistaken, but they are generally used with GTK
[14:38] <dpm> for Qt you'd use QML
[14:39] <dpm> sorry, I've just realized what might have generated the confusion...
[14:39] <dpm> "If you are using Qt, you can probably..." I meant -> "If you're using GTK"
[14:40] <dpm> so:
[14:40] <dpm> GTK -> Cairo or Clutter
[14:40] <dpm> Qt -> QML
[14:45] <__h__> dpm: np
[14:47] <__h__> dpm: I see that cairo for example, is kinda a drawing library, do you think that maybe animating images would be more suitable for this widget?
[14:48] <__h__> like the good ol' sprite thing
[14:50] <dpm> __h__, yeah, I think a poor man's animation would do with Cairo (see the example at the bottom of http://zetcode.com/tutorials/cairographicstutorial/transparency/), but still, you might want to look at Clutter for proper, modern animation, or QML
[14:50] <dpm> what toolkit are you using then, GTK, Qt, or something else?
[14:59] <__h__> dpm: GTK but it is not a definite decision
[14:59] <dpm> ok
[15:01] <__h__> so choices could be left to GTK -> Clutter or Qt -> QML
[15:04] <dpm> yeah, I think so. You might also want to ask on askubuntu, to see if you get more recommendations
[15:09] <__h__> dpm: do you know what could have been the reason for ubuntu to choose Gtk for its apps and quickly, and what are the plans for the future of toolkits in ubuntu?
[15:13] <JanC> or on stackoverflow
[15:14] <JanC> (there are more programmers on stackoverflow than on askubuntu)
[15:15] <JanC> __h__: Ubuntu has traditionally always been based on GNOME, which uses Gtk
[15:29] <__h__> JanC: I see
[15:32] <__h__> JanC: So I would say that Gtk is better integrated with ubuntu than Qt
[15:33] <__h__> JanC: I mean the default Unity shell
[15:35] <JanC> yes, although Qt is themed to look more or less like Gtk, looks & behaviour are likely to be (subtly) different
[15:44] <JanC> OTOH, Qt is somewhat easier to use than Gtk on e.g. Windows, so if your app needs to be cross-platform with minimal effort...
[16:33] <__h__> JanC: I will be targeting ubuntu unity + gnome shell atm
[16:34] <JanC> then certainly Gtk is best (maybe combined with Clutter or similar)
[16:39] <Kalidarn> more doco for Qt too
[16:39] <Kalidarn> and if you've gotta do multi-platform support Qt all the way
[16:40] <Kalidarn> the good thing also about Qt is it looks acceptable in a KDE environment too
[20:21] <titeuf_87> Anyone familiar with how Gtk css themes work? I'm trying to have a hover effect for a label, but without much success.