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hammoi just upgraded from 11.04 to 12.04, i was running 3 monitors, 2 x screens, one for onboard and one for old radeon card. after reinstall i cant get both s xscreens to show. i have setup exactly the same bar new hdd. I still have old hard drive. what conf files should i be looking at to find difference in setup. I'm running xubuntu. did fresh install from dl ISO00:36
hammo?anyone?00:44
hammocan anyone list where display conf files are in xubuntu?00:53
hammoi found file:///home/hammo/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml and it has all 3 monitors listed00:53
gompahi does someone know the best way to test the new theme refresh ?01:20
gompahow would one: git-clone the repository to easily stay up to date.?01:26
Unit193cd ~/.themes && git clone link-to-github-location01:28
Unit193Then, to update cd ~/.themes/Greybird/ && git pull01:29
gompathanks :)01:30
Unit193You trying the white branch?01:30
Unit193So, that would be git clone -b bright-menus https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird.git01:31
hammocan anyone list where display conf files are in xubuntu please01:31
Unit193Not /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?  Also, may try arandr for dual monitor setup.01:32
hammohmmmm, i dont have Xorg.conf :( but i found file:///home/hammo/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml that lists monitors just cant get 2nd xscreen to display. 1 xscreen for onbaord 1 xscreen for old radeon card.01:35
hammoused to work before upgrade, just need to know conf files to compare so i can setup as before01:35
gompaunit193 thanks but i dont really see any difference (only in the  file manager the location bar icons are different and the menu is white01:38
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xubuntu230so, when i press the volume keys on my keyboard it shows a volume control, but it doesn't affect the actual volume.02:36
anenzymaticboomI have a problem with crontab.  I can execute a command from the terminal fine, but when I try via crontab it does nothing... I have tried various solution from the interwebz maybe y'all can help02:50
Unit193Alright, what's the command?02:52
Unit193And, if you open a sh terminal, does it work there?02:52
anenzymaticboomthe command is "background" is a executable shell script02:53
anenzymaticboomand yes when I run it from a terminal it runs fine02:53
pleia2are you using the full path to the program in the crontab?02:53
anenzymaticboomthe shell script is just one line (aside from the header) "xfdesktop --reload"02:53
anenzymaticboomyes02:54
anenzymaticboomfull path yes02:54
pleia2and to the shell executing it? /bin/bash /full/path/to/background02:54
anenzymaticboom*/1 * * * * bash -c /home/hans/bin/background02:54
anenzymaticboomlog:02:55
Unit193bash -c, everyone forgets the -c02:55
anenzymaticboomI have bash -c...02:55
anenzymaticboomJun 19 23:55:01 hans-xubuntu CRON[29940]: (hans) CMD (bash -c /home/hans/bin/background) Jun 19 23:55:01 hans-xubuntu CRON[29939]: (hans) MAIL (mailed 1 byte of output; but got status 0x00ff, #012)02:56
pleia2huh02:56
Unit193(You did, she forgot, it's my craziness) You don't happen to have a mail server on that? :P02:57
anenzymaticboomnot sure...02:57
anenzymaticboomhow can I check that?02:57
Unit193type   mail02:57
Unit193(Not technically, but oh well)02:57
anenzymaticboomhans@hans-xubuntu:~$ mail No mail for hans02:57
anenzymaticboomnope02:57
Unit193Not sure if you can redirect output, or error output to a file.02:58
anenzymaticboomI am not getting an error... its just not doing anything02:59
Unit193And did/do you have to set display?03:01
anenzymaticboomnot sure...03:01
anenzymaticboomwhat might that be?03:02
Unit193Tells it what display X11 is running on.03:02
Unit193export DISPLAY=:003:02
anenzymaticboomwould that be cron issue or a xfdesktop --reload issue?03:03
anenzymaticboombecause the xfdesktop command works perfectly fine when I run it from the command line03:03
Unit193Well, best to add it to the script.03:03
anenzymaticboomcrontab or the shell?03:04
Unit193Well, you can add that to either crontab or /full/path/to/background03:05
anenzymaticboomcool03:05
pleia2when you're launching from cron you don't have the same environment variables as from a shell, so things like DISPLAY may not be set (not sure if DISPLAY itself is the issue here, but environment variables tend to be it)03:05
Unit193Just   DISPLAY=:0   in crontab -e03:05
Unit193And it using SH, that's not cool either.03:05
pleia2sh in ubuntu is dash, not bash03:06
anenzymaticboomso... (1) add DISPLAY=:0   in crontab -e (2) change bash to dash03:07
anenzymaticboomright03:07
anenzymaticboom?03:07
pleia2no no, you probably want to be using bash03:07
anenzymaticboomok03:07
anenzymaticboomDISPLAY=:0   in crontab -e, should that go anywhere particular in the file?  above below the command?03:08
anenzymaticboomcurrent crontab -l :03:09
anenzymaticboomSHELL=/bin/sh03:09
anenzymaticboomPATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/home/hans/bin03:09
anenzymaticboomDISPLAY=:003:09
Unit193Remember to use pastebin.com03:09
anenzymaticboom*/1 * * * * bash -c /home/hans/bin/background03:09
Unit193Pretty much, see if that works better.03:10
anenzymaticboomIT WORKS!!!!!03:10
anenzymaticboomThanks GUYS!!03:10
Unit193Sure, welcome.03:10
anenzymaticboomCan we just hold on for one more min, to make sure it is working?03:10
Unit193Speaking of such   The following packages will be upgraded: cron03:10
anenzymaticboomOh snap, it works like a charm!03:11
anenzymaticboomso what did DISPLAY=:0 do?03:11
anenzymaticboomif you do not mind explaining...03:11
Unit193pleia2?03:11
pleia2basically it tells the shell what monitor/display/place to output the results to03:11
anenzymaticboomso would I need that for other sripts as well?  Like when I was trying to trouble shoot myself, I tried to execute a command that essentailly opened a txt document in an editor... it also failed03:13
pleia2for graphical programs, yeah probably03:13
anenzymaticboomok03:13
anenzymaticboomwell thanks03:13
anenzymaticboomanyway I can tip?03:13
pleia2hehe03:14
anenzymaticboomWell have a good night/day depending on where you are.03:18
anenzymaticboomI will praise this IRC and spread the good word.03:18
Unit193You already have it set, so fi you just add more to crontab that need a gui you are set already.03:19
anenzymaticboomthanks... now how do I quit this IRC... solved.  Good night03:19
xubuntu883Hey, is there any way to change an option for the color of selected tabs?04:17
Unit193In what program?04:18
xubuntu883just overall, but the program I've noticed it in is bluefish04:18
Unit193Each program may or may not have a setting for that, if I understand what you want.04:19
xubuntu883yeah, i wasn't sure if there was a generic setting for active tabs in xubuntu or not04:20
untakenI use spotify in xfce, I would like to stop and pause the music with a keyboard shortcut. Is there anyway I can do this. It shows up in the task bar, where I can pause it from there; but would like to control it via the keyboard. Any ideas?09:38
astraljavauntaken: It seems we could use examples from this page: http://kothar.net/index.php/blog/30-spotifydbus09:55
astraljavauntaken: Noticed there an update at the end of the page, linking to an app providing the mappings. Will have to check it out.09:56
untakenme takes a look (thanks)09:56
untakenastraljava: sweet, did the job. thanks mate :)10:11
ChintuHey, What is the System requirment for Xubuntu? :)10:16
ChintuI mean, CPU?10:16
ChintuMay i run it on p4 1.7Ghz, 512MB SDRAM, ? :)10:17
ChintuHope i'll get the reply soon :)10:17
knomeshould work ok, though don't expect it to be a rocket10:19
ChintuAww!10:20
hobgoblinI use a p4 here - but I do have more RAM10:20
Chintuhmm,10:20
ChintuOkay!10:20
ChintuSo should try out Lubuntu?10:20
hobgoblinup to you - I'd try xubuntu first ;)10:21
ChintuHmm,10:22
ChintuSo, i gonna try both then!10:22
ChintuFirst X and L10:22
ChintuI've tried, Ubuntu, but, it didn't work at all10:22
ChintuBut, Just, Yesterday, i come to know that there are many kinds of Unbuntu, I just, googled..10:23
ChintuXUbuntu just impressed me!10:23
Simooonwhat didn't work about ubuntu? the install?10:24
ChintuNo! I installed it on Window(Wubi like somethin)10:24
Chintuand Starts after more than 5 mins10:24
ChintuAnd then, When i do something, it hangs :/10:25
Simooonahh, that's probably not the fastest way to use it, it is more a kind of way to check it out10:25
Simooonhow old is your computer?10:25
ChintuI don't, I brought it from a Computer shop, when my p3 stopped working!10:26
ChintuIt's second hand :/10:26
Simooonso it's quite old?10:26
ChintuNope! It doesn't look old at all :/10:26
ChintuI just, bought a mother board that is old..10:27
ChintuAnd others are new!10:27
ChintuThere's too RAM one is of 512 MB and another is 128 MB << Is than can be a problem with Ubuntu?10:28
Chintutwo*10:28
Simooonwell that sounds somewhat old to me ;-) I think xubuntu, lubuntu or some other lightweight system would be great for your computer10:29
ChintuYeah!10:29
ChintuI'll try Xubuntu first!10:29
ChintuIt should work!10:29
Chintumay i take a name of Linux Based operating system, what i used and it was good?10:30
ChintuOkay, I used and an operating system linux based. It was Gnome something.. And it worked good..10:32
SimooonI did not understand that question, could you rephrase that?10:32
Simooonahh ok10:32
ChintuIt was mint something!10:32
ChintuBut, The only problem was, It corrupts my Another HDD everytime I connect :/10:33
Simooonthere are many gnome based operating systems, most distros have more than one desktop environment to choose from. Linux mint is widely used and there is a gnome version10:33
ChintuHmm, My question is that, If, It worked good, So Xubuntu can?10:34
Chintuit worked good on Linux Mint*10:34
ChintuSorry for my bad english10:35
SimooonI'm sure you could solve your HDD problem, though I have no idea what it is, perhaps you should ask on a mint channel or generel hardware channel about that, xubuntu should work as well, it is mostly a matter of taste.10:36
Simooonlinux mint also have a version using xfce (like xubuntu)10:36
ChintuOkay, But, I am not gonna install Mint again.. I don't want my Data lose once again :D10:36
Chintulolz, I just used it, because, i've no idea that there's is a XUbuntu that can work on P410:37
Simooonp4 as in pentium 4?10:38
ChintuYeah!10:38
ChintuIntel Pentium 410:38
Simooonsure10:38
Chintu1.7Ghz10:38
ChintuWell, If it works good, then okay, if it doesn't... Then, There's another Unbuntu(Lunbuntu)10:39
Chintulol10:39
Simooonas it is somewhat old processor I would recommend that you use a lightweight desktop environment like XFCE or LXDE both available as linux mint versions and ubuntu versions10:39
ChintuWell, What should i for better performance? Can you suggest me?10:39
Chintui use*10:40
ChintuNo linux mint anymore :P10:40
ChintuI'll get the Xubuntu10:40
Simooonok, then go for xubuntu, that would be my recommendation10:40
Simooonsince I'm not sure how mature LXDE is10:41
ChintuOkay!10:41
Simooonwhat is your native language?10:41
ChintuAnd it won't work.. I'll try Lubuntu10:41
ChintuThey both have Wubi.exe as in Unbuntu?10:42
SimooonI don't think any of them use wubi, though I'm not sure10:42
thedarkhello, how do I change the refresh rate of a second monitor (in this case, an old TV) on 12.04?10:43
ChintuSimooon: What? Xubuntu doesn't have wubi?10:43
hobgoblinxubuntu does - but I'd not recommend it10:44
Simooonnot sure, but I don't think so, I would not recommend installing it that way anyway, does Mint use wubi?10:44
ChintuNope! Mint doesn't have any Wubi, As i know!10:45
Simooonthedark, I think that is something you should do on your TV if it is even possible.10:45
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SimooonChintu, I think wubi is used only by ubuntu10:45
ChintuI'll use, Wubi first, I've a little knowledge about Linuxs, And if i am stuck with anything so i could use Window too10:46
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ChintuSimooon, Yeah, That's Why i am asking that, Xubuntu hai Lubuntu has Wubi or not?10:46
hobgoblinSimooon: wubi is there in xubuntu10:46
ChintuBtw, I am clear now :)10:46
thedarkSimoon: uh, wouldn't I use Xrandr?10:46
hobgoblinSimooon: but I too never recommend it10:47
Simooonhobgoblin, ok, I stand corrected :-P10:47
Simooonthedark, what connector are you using for the tv?10:48
thedarks-video10:48
thedarkxubuntu detects the TV, I am pretty sure I just have to change the refresh rate10:48
thedarkit was working perfectly in 10.1010:48
thedarkthe bootup screen even showed up on it10:49
thedarkbut it showed the refresh rate as 30hz10:49
Simooonwell if it worked before then I guess it should still work, don't know how though10:49
thedarknow xubuntu 12.04 sets it to 60hz and it doesn't display anything, despite being detected10:49
thedarkI am pretty sure I just gotta use xrandr to change the refresh rate10:50
SimooonChintu, did you catch that xubuntu apparently have wubi?10:50
thedarkI am trying to figure it out now :(10:50
Simooonthedark, perhaps you should try arandr?10:51
ChintuSimooon: Yeah! I guessed, It should have :p10:51
hobgoblinI wouldn't use it though Chintu10:52
thedarkI have10:52
thedarkno option for Refresh Rate :(10:52
ChintuBut, I would like to install it through Wubi first!10:53
Simooonyou know that you can still dual boot without wubi, right?10:53
hobgoblinChintu: you do as you wish to - I'm just saying that I would not use it - nor would I recommend it's use.10:54
ChintuSimooon: How could i? :o10:54
Chintuhobgoblin: Does it slow the OS?10:54
SimooonJust install it alongside windows10:54
SimooonChintu, wubi makes linux slower, though windows should not be affected.10:55
ChintuBut, Then, I won't be able to Uninstall it..If, i'll plan to install Lunbuntu?10:55
hobgoblinChintu: yes you can :)10:56
hobgoblinyou just install over the top of it10:56
ChintuHmm, Maybe, That's the problem, Why Ubuntu didn't work good on my PC :/10:56
hobgoblinubuntu wouldn't have worked well with 512Mb10:56
Simooonthedark, perhaps you can use this: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=26522410:57
thedarkchecking it out, thanks for trying to help me out10:57
ChintuHmm,10:57
Simooonthedark, np10:57
hobgoblinChintu: what version of windows do you have?10:59
ChintuI've told my friend to download Xubuntu for me!10:59
Chintuhobgoblin: Windows XP SP210:59
ChintuI just, use it for performance10:59
SimooonChintu, perhaps you should look at some youtube tutorials on this, they can be quite enlightening10:59
ChintuOh! Youtube, Can't :(11:00
ChintuIt's an slow network here!11:00
Simooonahh sucks, there are great text/picture guides as well though.11:00
hobgoblinChintu: you shouldn't have any issues with that - boot the iso and then let it shrink your partition and it will install in new partitions11:01
ChintuOkay! I am gonna install it tonight!11:01
ChintuI'll be here with my mobile, while, i'll be installing XUbuntu!11:02
hobgoblindefrag it a couple of times and have backups11:02
hobgoblinChintu: if you have ethernet you will be bale to get here in the livecd11:02
ChintuI am having a USB internet!11:02
ChintuSo i can't11:02
ChintuThanks for your support guys! :)11:03
Simooonnp11:03
Chintuyou all are nice :)11:03
ChintuI'll be here soon, When i start the Installation :)11:03
Chintubrb11:05
xubuntu135någon svensk här inne som kan hjälpa lite ???12:12
knome!se | xubuntu13512:13
ubottuxubuntu135: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntustöd hittar du i #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se. Tack!12:13
foobar55hi all13:38
foobar55someone knows about more about kernel 3.x / xubuntu / pae  to use on old ibm thinkpads ?13:40
foobar55how long couldt i calculate with non-pae-kernels ?13:40
holsteini cant imagine needing PAE on an old machine, but you can look for a live CD with PAE, or make one... i would probably just install and try it13:45
foobar55holstein in sh ?13:51
foobar5512.04 xubuntu is without pae - but how long ? btw. so long the LTS runs ?13:53
astraljavafoobar55: Yes, it'll be the same kernel during the whole lifecycle of the release, just with updates of course.13:54
foobar55ok - but when 12.04 LTS runs out ?? may be in three years - i put my old laptops to garbache ?13:56
astraljavafoobar55: I couldn't tell, but maybe some other distros will provide a working kernel, or like holstein suggested, you can roll your own.13:57
astraljavafoobar55: Xubuntu precise (12.04) is supported for 3 years, yes.13:57
foobar55i split my P III mobile in dual core with a knife14:00
SandJfoobar55, when the op sys goes out of support, it does not stop existing.  It can still be downloaded and backported updates will still appear.14:09
SandJAnd once an op sys is 3 years old, there is unlikely to be any need for it to be supported - everything that might go wrong has gone wrong!14:10
foobar55oohhh, my thinkpads are ten years old - i hope i can use them the next ten years14:16
ChintuHello guys!14:34
ChintuWeird thing happened! lolz14:34
ChintuI just, Put my disc to burn it up with Xubuntu ... And my PC hangs lolz14:35
ChintuI can just see.. DVD-WR's green light now14:36
ChintuAnd hoping that... CD won't be corrupt lllz14:36
ochosiReminder/Disclaimer: -- Xubuntu Community meeting in 20min in #xubuntu-devel. --14:40
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SandJChintu, I hope you have more luck than me.  About half the CDs and DVDs I make are useless.  :-(15:00
ChintuSandJ: Weird, The disc is fully blank.. after 20 minute of burning time.. I was thinking.. That, It would show inaccessible disc :/15:03
SandJWas the "test burn only" option set?15:03
ChintuNope, My PC just hanged, When i started the Burning! :/15:07
ChintuIt seems like hardware problem15:07
SandJ... and saved your blank CD from an untimely death.15:07
ChintuI should use, The USB boot method... Can anyone help me with it? :)15:08
Chintulolz! Yeah, SandJ15:08
hobgoblin!unetbootin | Chintu15:08
ubottuChintu: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent15:08
ChintuOh, I am on mobile, I should get on PC to see that link..15:09
ChintuI think, I should.. Postpone it to some another day :(15:10
ChintuWow!15:10
ChintuGuys, zproblem is solved :)15:11
Chintu-z15:11
ChintuIt was hardware fault.. lolz15:11
ChintuI just forgot to remove the Corrupt Harddisk from my system :D15:11
ChintuBurn, Process is running smoothly right now :)15:12
ChintuWow, Completed ^_^15:13
Chintuit was so fast :D15:13
ChintuSo, What should i do first?15:14
ChintuDefrag my disk?15:14
SandJHave you removed the corrupt hard disk?15:17
ChintuYes! :)15:20
ChintuIt was just connected with motherboard not with.. SMPS15:20
ChintuAnd now, I am doing defragmentation of C:\15:21
ChintuDefragmented it twice.. I think,it's a good time to start installation :)15:36
hobgoblinup to you - but I always turned the pagefile off before I installed next to windows - the installer won't move it and it might be in the way of making a useful size partition15:37
ChintuSo, I should turn off pagefile too15:37
ChintuJust, Restaring my PC15:38
ChintuShould i turf ogpf pagefile of all Partition or just one(C:) ?15:38
Chintuturn off*15:38
ChintuSorry, If iam asking too many question.. :)15:39
ChintuI am not that stupid, But, If someone helps me...Then, I use to be :p15:40
hobgoblinthere's only one pagefile in windows from memory15:45
ChintuI'd page files from all 4 partitions :/15:46
ChintuThe installation is just stopped :(15:49
ChintuAn Error Occurred: Permission Denied15:50
ChintuFor more information, please, see the log file.. :/15:50
ChintuThe Xubuntu installation is too slow, As like Ubuntu... :(16:07
ChintuI am giving 8GB space to it :p16:07
hobgoblinChintu: installing takes time16:10
ChintuNope, The cursor is taking a while to move after moving my mouse :/16:11
ChintuIs it common?16:11
hobgoblinI've had it on machines with low RAM16:12
ChintuSo, It won't work fast on my PC? :/16:13
ChintuImporting from Microsoft window is an good Idea?16:15
hobgoblinChintu: have you installed it yet?16:18
hobgoblinwhile you are installing - you have your ram trying to install and run the livecd for you to look at - all at the same time :)16:19
ChintuNope, Installation is running!16:19
hobgoblinthen wait till it's rebooted before you decide how fast or slow it is :)16:19
ChintuOh, That's why, It is slow?16:19
Chintulolz Okay :)16:19
coreymanSo I'm trying to add Aptana Studio to the xfce menu and I can't figure this out.... I've been googling and hacking for the past hour on this.16:23
bluesabreHi coreyman, Have you tried using alacarte?16:24
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xubuntu730Hello. I tried to install Xubuntu with a live CD, but the step of copying files never ends... What's the problem? What can I try?17:00
SandJHow long is "never ends"?17:00
xubuntu730more than 20 min17:01
SandJAnd can you see the drive light - does it stop flashing after a certain time?17:01
xubuntu730yes, it stops flashing.17:01
xubuntu730It restarts flashing when I click every anywhere with the mouse :p :D17:01
xubuntu730but then, it doesn't flash anymore17:02
xubuntu730It happened also with a Lubuntu17:02
xubuntu730Now, I'm trying to install a Xubuntu-alternate...17:03
ChintuIt's Installed and much better speed than, Ubuntu, Thank you to All XUbuntu family :)17:04
ChintuI am gonna give my whole night to understand XUbuntu :)17:07
xubuntu730Where does the problem comes from when the installing process stop on copying files ?17:08
ChintuDisk drive?17:09
xubuntu730Chintu : I'm installing from a live CD17:10
Chintulolz, I don't know, Much about it,,.. I just joined the XUbuntu today :p17:10
ChintuOkay, Guys had a nice with you all... I'll back.. With more questions and suggestions  :p17:13
ChintuTake care!17:13
xubuntu730I succeed installing XUbuntu with the alternate version (the installation of the desktop version was blocking at the end of copying files)17:35
xubuntu730I still don't understand why I had this problem with the desktop version... maybe because it's an old PC ?17:36
SandJCould it be a fault with the downloading / burning of the CD?17:41
xubuntu730bye17:44
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faryshtaHow do I add an evento to the "save screen" key? I think in english is19:12
elsucoHi.... I am having a weird issue with starting xubuntu 12.04 on a 3.2.0-25-generic kernel.20:37
elsucoAfter the start it takes about a minute until i can use keyboard shortcuts20:37
elsucobefore that the Xserver will take a full cpu and xfce4-settings-helper will take about 25% of the second cpu.20:38
elsucoDoes anybody have an idea on what the source of this problem might be?20:38
holsteinelsuco: i would try another kernel to confirm that its a kernel issue, otherwise, i might tend to just wait the minute and deal with it, since i dont reboot often20:39
elsucothe issue has been since kernel 3.0.* and for some reason my desktop freezes sometimes(i think it is something with the nvidia-driver, since nothing appears in syslog) and i have to restart a lot in the last few days.20:42
elsucois there some way to check the integrety of the system or something like that?20:42
holsteinmight be... i would probably load up a live CD and force the vesa graphics driver... i would try maybe a 10.04 live CD20:44
elsucohow do i force the vesa driver? is it a boot option in grub?20:45
holsteinelsuco: safe graphics mode20:45
holsteinyou can hit shift, and get grub showing, and hit F6 and force safe graphics20:46
elsucook thanks, i will try that and see what happens20:46
elsucothanks for the support20:49
David-Aelsuco: I'v had Xubuntu versions that used 100% cpu for a while when running xmodmap. Do you have a (long) ~/.Xmodmap ?21:20
David-Ano, he's gone21:21
KombuchaKipAnyone else experiencing a slow applications menu?22:40
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=== Htbrdd is now known as zz_Htbrdd
=== zz_Htbrdd is now known as Htbrdd
=== Htbrdd is now known as zz_Htbrdd
=== zz_Htbrdd is now known as Htbrdd

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