[00:36] i just upgraded from 11.04 to 12.04, i was running 3 monitors, 2 x screens, one for onboard and one for old radeon card. after reinstall i cant get both s xscreens to show. i have setup exactly the same bar new hdd. I still have old hard drive. what conf files should i be looking at to find difference in setup. I'm running xubuntu. did fresh install from dl ISO [00:44] ?anyone? [00:53] can anyone list where display conf files are in xubuntu? [00:53] i found file:///home/hammo/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml and it has all 3 monitors listed [01:20] hi does someone know the best way to test the new theme refresh ? [01:26] how would one: git-clone the repository to easily stay up to date.? [01:28] cd ~/.themes && git clone link-to-github-location [01:29] Then, to update cd ~/.themes/Greybird/ && git pull [01:30] thanks :) [01:30] You trying the white branch? [01:31] So, that would be git clone -b bright-menus https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird.git [01:31] can anyone list where display conf files are in xubuntu please [01:32] Not /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? Also, may try arandr for dual monitor setup. [01:35] hmmmm, i dont have Xorg.conf :( but i found file:///home/hammo/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml that lists monitors just cant get 2nd xscreen to display. 1 xscreen for onbaord 1 xscreen for old radeon card. [01:35] used to work before upgrade, just need to know conf files to compare so i can setup as before [01:38] unit193 thanks but i dont really see any difference (only in the file manager the location bar icons are different and the menu is white === Htbrdd is now known as zz_Htbrdd [02:36] so, when i press the volume keys on my keyboard it shows a volume control, but it doesn't affect the actual volume. [02:50] I have a problem with crontab. I can execute a command from the terminal fine, but when I try via crontab it does nothing... I have tried various solution from the interwebz maybe y'all can help [02:52] Alright, what's the command? [02:52] And, if you open a sh terminal, does it work there? [02:53] the command is "background" is a executable shell script [02:53] and yes when I run it from a terminal it runs fine [02:53] are you using the full path to the program in the crontab? [02:53] the shell script is just one line (aside from the header) "xfdesktop --reload" [02:54] yes [02:54] full path yes [02:54] and to the shell executing it? /bin/bash /full/path/to/background [02:54] */1 * * * * bash -c /home/hans/bin/background [02:55] log: [02:55] bash -c, everyone forgets the -c [02:55] I have bash -c... [02:56] Jun 19 23:55:01 hans-xubuntu CRON[29940]: (hans) CMD (bash -c /home/hans/bin/background) Jun 19 23:55:01 hans-xubuntu CRON[29939]: (hans) MAIL (mailed 1 byte of output; but got status 0x00ff, #012) [02:56] huh [02:57] (You did, she forgot, it's my craziness) You don't happen to have a mail server on that? :P [02:57] not sure... [02:57] how can I check that? [02:57] type mail [02:57] (Not technically, but oh well) [02:57] hans@hans-xubuntu:~$ mail No mail for hans [02:57] nope [02:58] Not sure if you can redirect output, or error output to a file. [02:59] I am not getting an error... its just not doing anything [03:01] And did/do you have to set display? [03:01] not sure... [03:02] what might that be? [03:02] Tells it what display X11 is running on. [03:02] export DISPLAY=:0 [03:03] would that be cron issue or a xfdesktop --reload issue? [03:03] because the xfdesktop command works perfectly fine when I run it from the command line [03:03] Well, best to add it to the script. [03:04] crontab or the shell? [03:05] Well, you can add that to either crontab or /full/path/to/background [03:05] cool [03:05] when you're launching from cron you don't have the same environment variables as from a shell, so things like DISPLAY may not be set (not sure if DISPLAY itself is the issue here, but environment variables tend to be it) [03:05] Just DISPLAY=:0 in crontab -e [03:05] And it using SH, that's not cool either. [03:06] sh in ubuntu is dash, not bash [03:07] so... (1) add DISPLAY=:0 in crontab -e (2) change bash to dash [03:07] right [03:07] ? [03:07] no no, you probably want to be using bash [03:07] ok [03:08] DISPLAY=:0 in crontab -e, should that go anywhere particular in the file? above below the command? [03:09] current crontab -l : [03:09] SHELL=/bin/sh [03:09] PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/home/hans/bin [03:09] DISPLAY=:0 [03:09] Remember to use pastebin.com [03:09] */1 * * * * bash -c /home/hans/bin/background [03:10] Pretty much, see if that works better. [03:10] IT WORKS!!!!! [03:10] Thanks GUYS!! [03:10] Sure, welcome. [03:10] Can we just hold on for one more min, to make sure it is working? [03:10] Speaking of such The following packages will be upgraded: cron [03:11] Oh snap, it works like a charm! [03:11] so what did DISPLAY=:0 do? [03:11] if you do not mind explaining... [03:11] pleia2? [03:11] basically it tells the shell what monitor/display/place to output the results to [03:13] so would I need that for other sripts as well? Like when I was trying to trouble shoot myself, I tried to execute a command that essentailly opened a txt document in an editor... it also failed [03:13] for graphical programs, yeah probably [03:13] ok [03:13] well thanks [03:13] anyway I can tip? [03:14] hehe [03:18] Well have a good night/day depending on where you are. [03:18] I will praise this IRC and spread the good word. [03:19] You already have it set, so fi you just add more to crontab that need a gui you are set already. [03:19] thanks... now how do I quit this IRC... solved. Good night [04:17] Hey, is there any way to change an option for the color of selected tabs? [04:18] In what program? [04:18] just overall, but the program I've noticed it in is bluefish [04:19] Each program may or may not have a setting for that, if I understand what you want. [04:20] yeah, i wasn't sure if there was a generic setting for active tabs in xubuntu or not [09:38] I use spotify in xfce, I would like to stop and pause the music with a keyboard shortcut. Is there anyway I can do this. It shows up in the task bar, where I can pause it from there; but would like to control it via the keyboard. Any ideas? [09:55] untaken: It seems we could use examples from this page: http://kothar.net/index.php/blog/30-spotifydbus [09:56] untaken: Noticed there an update at the end of the page, linking to an app providing the mappings. Will have to check it out. [09:56] me takes a look (thanks) [10:11] astraljava: sweet, did the job. thanks mate :) [10:16] Hey, What is the System requirment for Xubuntu? :) [10:16] I mean, CPU? [10:17] May i run it on p4 1.7Ghz, 512MB SDRAM, ? :) [10:17] Hope i'll get the reply soon :) [10:19] should work ok, though don't expect it to be a rocket [10:20] Aww! [10:20] I use a p4 here - but I do have more RAM [10:20] hmm, [10:20] Okay! [10:20] So should try out Lubuntu? [10:21] up to you - I'd try xubuntu first ;) [10:22] Hmm, [10:22] So, i gonna try both then! [10:22] First X and L [10:22] I've tried, Ubuntu, but, it didn't work at all [10:23] But, Just, Yesterday, i come to know that there are many kinds of Unbuntu, I just, googled.. [10:23] XUbuntu just impressed me! [10:24] what didn't work about ubuntu? the install? [10:24] No! I installed it on Window(Wubi like somethin) [10:24] and Starts after more than 5 mins [10:25] And then, When i do something, it hangs :/ [10:25] ahh, that's probably not the fastest way to use it, it is more a kind of way to check it out [10:25] how old is your computer? [10:26] I don't, I brought it from a Computer shop, when my p3 stopped working! [10:26] It's second hand :/ [10:26] so it's quite old? [10:26] Nope! It doesn't look old at all :/ [10:27] I just, bought a mother board that is old.. [10:27] And others are new! [10:28] There's too RAM one is of 512 MB and another is 128 MB << Is than can be a problem with Ubuntu? [10:28] two* [10:29] well that sounds somewhat old to me ;-) I think xubuntu, lubuntu or some other lightweight system would be great for your computer [10:29] Yeah! [10:29] I'll try Xubuntu first! [10:29] It should work! [10:30] may i take a name of Linux Based operating system, what i used and it was good? [10:32] Okay, I used and an operating system linux based. It was Gnome something.. And it worked good.. [10:32] I did not understand that question, could you rephrase that? [10:32] ahh ok [10:32] It was mint something! [10:33] But, The only problem was, It corrupts my Another HDD everytime I connect :/ [10:33] there are many gnome based operating systems, most distros have more than one desktop environment to choose from. Linux mint is widely used and there is a gnome version [10:34] Hmm, My question is that, If, It worked good, So Xubuntu can? [10:34] it worked good on Linux Mint* [10:35] Sorry for my bad english [10:36] I'm sure you could solve your HDD problem, though I have no idea what it is, perhaps you should ask on a mint channel or generel hardware channel about that, xubuntu should work as well, it is mostly a matter of taste. [10:36] linux mint also have a version using xfce (like xubuntu) [10:36] Okay, But, I am not gonna install Mint again.. I don't want my Data lose once again :D [10:37] lolz, I just used it, because, i've no idea that there's is a XUbuntu that can work on P4 [10:38] p4 as in pentium 4? [10:38] Yeah! [10:38] Intel Pentium 4 [10:38] sure [10:38] 1.7Ghz [10:39] Well, If it works good, then okay, if it doesn't... Then, There's another Unbuntu(Lunbuntu) [10:39] lol [10:39] as it is somewhat old processor I would recommend that you use a lightweight desktop environment like XFCE or LXDE both available as linux mint versions and ubuntu versions [10:39] Well, What should i for better performance? Can you suggest me? [10:40] i use* [10:40] No linux mint anymore :P [10:40] I'll get the Xubuntu [10:40] ok, then go for xubuntu, that would be my recommendation [10:41] since I'm not sure how mature LXDE is [10:41] Okay! [10:41] what is your native language? [10:41] And it won't work.. I'll try Lubuntu [10:42] They both have Wubi.exe as in Unbuntu? [10:42] I don't think any of them use wubi, though I'm not sure [10:43] hello, how do I change the refresh rate of a second monitor (in this case, an old TV) on 12.04? [10:43] Simooon: What? Xubuntu doesn't have wubi? [10:44] xubuntu does - but I'd not recommend it [10:44] not sure, but I don't think so, I would not recommend installing it that way anyway, does Mint use wubi? [10:45] Nope! Mint doesn't have any Wubi, As i know! [10:45] thedark, I think that is something you should do on your TV if it is even possible. === zz_Htbrdd is now known as Htbrdd [10:45] Chintu, I think wubi is used only by ubuntu [10:46] I'll use, Wubi first, I've a little knowledge about Linuxs, And if i am stuck with anything so i could use Window too === Htbrdd is now known as zz_Htbrdd [10:46] Simooon, Yeah, That's Why i am asking that, Xubuntu hai Lubuntu has Wubi or not? [10:46] Simooon: wubi is there in xubuntu [10:46] Btw, I am clear now :) [10:46] Simoon: uh, wouldn't I use Xrandr? [10:47] Simooon: but I too never recommend it [10:47] hobgoblin, ok, I stand corrected :-P [10:48] thedark, what connector are you using for the tv? [10:48] s-video [10:48] xubuntu detects the TV, I am pretty sure I just have to change the refresh rate [10:48] it was working perfectly in 10.10 [10:49] the bootup screen even showed up on it [10:49] but it showed the refresh rate as 30hz [10:49] well if it worked before then I guess it should still work, don't know how though [10:49] now xubuntu 12.04 sets it to 60hz and it doesn't display anything, despite being detected [10:50] I am pretty sure I just gotta use xrandr to change the refresh rate [10:50] Chintu, did you catch that xubuntu apparently have wubi? [10:50] I am trying to figure it out now :( [10:51] thedark, perhaps you should try arandr? [10:51] Simooon: Yeah! I guessed, It should have :p [10:52] I wouldn't use it though Chintu [10:52] I have [10:52] no option for Refresh Rate :( [10:53] But, I would like to install it through Wubi first! [10:53] you know that you can still dual boot without wubi, right? [10:54] Chintu: you do as you wish to - I'm just saying that I would not use it - nor would I recommend it's use. [10:54] Simooon: How could i? :o [10:54] hobgoblin: Does it slow the OS? [10:54] Just install it alongside windows [10:55] Chintu, wubi makes linux slower, though windows should not be affected. [10:55] But, Then, I won't be able to Uninstall it..If, i'll plan to install Lunbuntu? [10:56] Chintu: yes you can :) [10:56] you just install over the top of it [10:56] Hmm, Maybe, That's the problem, Why Ubuntu didn't work good on my PC :/ [10:56] ubuntu wouldn't have worked well with 512Mb [10:57] thedark, perhaps you can use this: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=265224 [10:57] checking it out, thanks for trying to help me out [10:57] Hmm, [10:57] thedark, np [10:59] Chintu: what version of windows do you have? [10:59] I've told my friend to download Xubuntu for me! [10:59] hobgoblin: Windows XP SP2 [10:59] I just, use it for performance [10:59] Chintu, perhaps you should look at some youtube tutorials on this, they can be quite enlightening [11:00] Oh! Youtube, Can't :( [11:00] It's an slow network here! [11:00] ahh sucks, there are great text/picture guides as well though. [11:01] Chintu: you shouldn't have any issues with that - boot the iso and then let it shrink your partition and it will install in new partitions [11:01] Okay! I am gonna install it tonight! [11:02] I'll be here with my mobile, while, i'll be installing XUbuntu! [11:02] defrag it a couple of times and have backups [11:02] Chintu: if you have ethernet you will be bale to get here in the livecd [11:02] I am having a USB internet! [11:02] So i can't [11:03] Thanks for your support guys! :) [11:03] np [11:03] you all are nice :) [11:03] I'll be here soon, When i start the Installation :) [11:05] brb [12:12] någon svensk här inne som kan hjälpa lite ??? [12:13] !se | xubuntu135 [12:13] xubuntu135: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntustöd hittar du i #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se. Tack! [13:38] hi all [13:40] someone knows about more about kernel 3.x / xubuntu / pae to use on old ibm thinkpads ? [13:40] how long couldt i calculate with non-pae-kernels ? [13:45] i cant imagine needing PAE on an old machine, but you can look for a live CD with PAE, or make one... i would probably just install and try it [13:51] holstein in sh ? [13:53] 12.04 xubuntu is without pae - but how long ? btw. so long the LTS runs ? [13:54] foobar55: Yes, it'll be the same kernel during the whole lifecycle of the release, just with updates of course. [13:56] ok - but when 12.04 LTS runs out ?? may be in three years - i put my old laptops to garbache ? [13:57] foobar55: I couldn't tell, but maybe some other distros will provide a working kernel, or like holstein suggested, you can roll your own. [13:57] foobar55: Xubuntu precise (12.04) is supported for 3 years, yes. [14:00] i split my P III mobile in dual core with a knife [14:09] foobar55, when the op sys goes out of support, it does not stop existing. It can still be downloaded and backported updates will still appear. [14:10] And once an op sys is 3 years old, there is unlikely to be any need for it to be supported - everything that might go wrong has gone wrong! [14:16] oohhh, my thinkpads are ten years old - i hope i can use them the next ten years [14:34] Hello guys! [14:34] Weird thing happened! lolz [14:35] I just, Put my disc to burn it up with Xubuntu ... And my PC hangs lolz [14:36] I can just see.. DVD-WR's green light now [14:36] And hoping that... CD won't be corrupt lllz [14:40] Reminder/Disclaimer: -- Xubuntu Community meeting in 20min in #xubuntu-devel. -- === burn__ is now known as burn [15:00] Chintu, I hope you have more luck than me. About half the CDs and DVDs I make are useless. :-( [15:03] SandJ: Weird, The disc is fully blank.. after 20 minute of burning time.. I was thinking.. That, It would show inaccessible disc :/ [15:03] Was the "test burn only" option set? [15:07] Nope, My PC just hanged, When i started the Burning! :/ [15:07] It seems like hardware problem [15:07] ... and saved your blank CD from an untimely death. [15:08] I should use, The USB boot method... Can anyone help me with it? :) [15:08] lolz! Yeah, SandJ [15:08] !unetbootin | Chintu [15:08] Chintu: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [15:09] Oh, I am on mobile, I should get on PC to see that link.. [15:10] I think, I should.. Postpone it to some another day :( [15:10] Wow! [15:11] Guys, zproblem is solved :) [15:11] -z [15:11] It was hardware fault.. lolz [15:11] I just forgot to remove the Corrupt Harddisk from my system :D [15:12] Burn, Process is running smoothly right now :) [15:13] Wow, Completed ^_^ [15:13] it was so fast :D [15:14] So, What should i do first? [15:14] Defrag my disk? [15:17] Have you removed the corrupt hard disk? [15:20] Yes! :) [15:20] It was just connected with motherboard not with.. SMPS [15:21] And now, I am doing defragmentation of C:\ [15:36] Defragmented it twice.. I think,it's a good time to start installation :) [15:37] up to you - but I always turned the pagefile off before I installed next to windows - the installer won't move it and it might be in the way of making a useful size partition [15:37] So, I should turn off pagefile too [15:38] Just, Restaring my PC [15:38] Should i turf ogpf pagefile of all Partition or just one(C:) ? [15:38] turn off* [15:39] Sorry, If iam asking too many question.. :) [15:40] I am not that stupid, But, If someone helps me...Then, I use to be :p [15:45] there's only one pagefile in windows from memory [15:46] I'd page files from all 4 partitions :/ [15:49] The installation is just stopped :( [15:50] An Error Occurred: Permission Denied [15:50] For more information, please, see the log file.. :/ [16:07] The Xubuntu installation is too slow, As like Ubuntu... :( [16:07] I am giving 8GB space to it :p [16:10] Chintu: installing takes time [16:11] Nope, The cursor is taking a while to move after moving my mouse :/ [16:11] Is it common? [16:12] I've had it on machines with low RAM [16:13] So, It won't work fast on my PC? :/ [16:15] Importing from Microsoft window is an good Idea? [16:18] Chintu: have you installed it yet? [16:19] while you are installing - you have your ram trying to install and run the livecd for you to look at - all at the same time :) [16:19] Nope, Installation is running! [16:19] then wait till it's rebooted before you decide how fast or slow it is :) [16:19] Oh, That's why, It is slow? [16:19] lolz Okay :) [16:23] So I'm trying to add Aptana Studio to the xfce menu and I can't figure this out.... I've been googling and hacking for the past hour on this. [16:24] Hi coreyman, Have you tried using alacarte? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [17:00] Hello. I tried to install Xubuntu with a live CD, but the step of copying files never ends... What's the problem? What can I try? [17:00] How long is "never ends"? [17:01] more than 20 min [17:01] And can you see the drive light - does it stop flashing after a certain time? [17:01] yes, it stops flashing. [17:01] It restarts flashing when I click every anywhere with the mouse :p :D [17:02] but then, it doesn't flash anymore [17:02] It happened also with a Lubuntu [17:03] Now, I'm trying to install a Xubuntu-alternate... [17:04] It's Installed and much better speed than, Ubuntu, Thank you to All XUbuntu family :) [17:07] I am gonna give my whole night to understand XUbuntu :) [17:08] Where does the problem comes from when the installing process stop on copying files ? [17:09] Disk drive? [17:10] Chintu : I'm installing from a live CD [17:10] lolz, I don't know, Much about it,,.. I just joined the XUbuntu today :p [17:13] Okay, Guys had a nice with you all... I'll back.. With more questions and suggestions :p [17:13] Take care! [17:35] I succeed installing XUbuntu with the alternate version (the installation of the desktop version was blocking at the end of copying files) [17:36] I still don't understand why I had this problem with the desktop version... maybe because it's an old PC ? [17:41] Could it be a fault with the downloading / burning of the CD? [17:44] bye === Soupermanito is now known as GridCube [19:12] How do I add an evento to the "save screen" key? I think in english is [20:37] Hi.... I am having a weird issue with starting xubuntu 12.04 on a 3.2.0-25-generic kernel. [20:37] After the start it takes about a minute until i can use keyboard shortcuts [20:38] before that the Xserver will take a full cpu and xfce4-settings-helper will take about 25% of the second cpu. [20:38] Does anybody have an idea on what the source of this problem might be? [20:39] elsuco: i would try another kernel to confirm that its a kernel issue, otherwise, i might tend to just wait the minute and deal with it, since i dont reboot often [20:42] the issue has been since kernel 3.0.* and for some reason my desktop freezes sometimes(i think it is something with the nvidia-driver, since nothing appears in syslog) and i have to restart a lot in the last few days. [20:42] is there some way to check the integrety of the system or something like that? [20:44] might be... i would probably load up a live CD and force the vesa graphics driver... i would try maybe a 10.04 live CD [20:45] how do i force the vesa driver? is it a boot option in grub? [20:45] elsuco: safe graphics mode [20:46] you can hit shift, and get grub showing, and hit F6 and force safe graphics [20:46] ok thanks, i will try that and see what happens [20:49] thanks for the support [21:20] elsuco: I'v had Xubuntu versions that used 100% cpu for a while when running xmodmap. Do you have a (long) ~/.Xmodmap ? [21:21] no, he's gone [22:40] Anyone else experiencing a slow applications menu? === zz_Htbrdd is now known as Htbrdd === Soupermanito is now known as GridCube === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === Htbrdd is now known as zz_Htbrdd === zz_Htbrdd is now known as Htbrdd === Htbrdd is now known as zz_Htbrdd === zz_Htbrdd is now known as Htbrdd === Htbrdd is now known as zz_Htbrdd === zz_Htbrdd is now known as Htbrdd