[00:18] <Norml> Evening.
[00:42] <Rockerfeller1107> tes
[00:44] <Rockerfeller1107> RTC
[00:45] <Rockerfeller1107> TEST
[01:36] <kubuntu_> _
[02:37] <nafg> Where can I ask questions on developing for kde? I want to lock the screen for certain times.
[04:13] <nafg__> Where can I ask questions on developing for kde? I want to lock the screen for certain times.
[04:18] <Peace-> nafg__: #kde #plasma #kde-devel ^
[05:32] <aeiou> anyone.....when i am using the 'sudo make install' statment in terminal, my keyboard is NOT taking any input except enter. WHY?
[05:43] <aeiou_> anyone.....when i am using the 'sudo make install' statment in terminal, my keyboard is NOT taking any input except enter. WHY?
[05:45] <aeiou_> anyone plese....?
[05:45] <hateball> do you mean it wont accept anything but enter in another window?
[05:45] <hateball> what are you doing, more specificly
[05:46] <aeiou_> hateball : i am trying to use sudo make install. But i can only press enter. i am unable to enter any alphabet or digit
[05:49] <aeiou_> hateball : i mean terminal is not accepting any keyboard input except
[05:49] <aeiou_> enter
[05:49] <hateball> so... you've grabbed some source that you've compiled, and now you want to install it?
[05:49] <hateball> and you type sudo make install, and then it wont let you add anything after that?
[05:50] <hateball> Before you press enter to actually install it, that is
[05:50] <hateball> I'm probably not understanding this correctly
[05:50] <genii-around> aeiou_: Were you able to type the first time the command and hit enter, but now it just sits there and adds a line every time you hit the enter?
[05:51] <Peace-> genii-around: hola
[05:51]  * genii-around slides Peace- a coffee
[05:51] <aeiou_> let me explain, i grabbed source, and compiled it. then i used 'sudo make install'. then i need to input password coz it requires admin preveliges. HERE, i am unable type my password. terminal will not take any input except 'enter'
[05:52] <genii-around> aeiou_: The password is not shown to you
[05:52] <aeiou_> genii-around : not even as *****?
[05:52] <genii-around> eg: You type the password and do not see what you type, when you hit enter it still puts the password you typed even though you do not see it
[05:53] <genii-around> aeiou_: Correct
[05:53] <aeiou_> genii-around : oh!!! thanks.....
[05:53] <genii-around> aeiou_: If you are having problems at this stage, you may want to reconsider something more advanced like doing a compile
[05:54] <hateball> aeiou_: Did you check if the packages were in the software repo before grabbing the source? :)
[05:54] <aeiou_> yes....the compile was all fine. the only probem came at the installation stage
[05:55] <aeiou_> hateball : also, how do i go about for the uninstallation thro terminal?
[05:56] <hateball> aeiou_: if the source you grabbed has an uninstallation script, it's usually "sudo make uninstall"
[05:56] <hateball> note, if
[05:57] <hateball> Which is why it's advisable to use packaged apps from the repo instead...
[05:57] <aeiou_> hateball : and if not??
[05:58] <hateball> Then you'll have to look at the install script and see where it copies stuff to etc, and remove it manually
[05:58] <hateball> !muon
[05:58] <hateball> Which is why this is a better way ^
[06:00] <aeiou_> hateball : thanks
[06:00] <hateball> Hmm, is that the best factoid there is...
[06:01] <genii-around> aeiou_: If the makefile for what you compiled does not come with uninstall as a make option, try instead clean or perhaps dist-clean
[06:01] <genii-around> !coffee
[06:01] <aeiou_> genii-around: does that search and clear out all the files installed in diff places or just that particular folder?
[06:02] <genii-around> aeiou_: dist-clean should wipe out the binaries it made as well
[06:03] <hateball> But only in the build-dir, isnt it?
[06:03] <genii-around> aeiou_: If you had to manually copy them before from the build folder to someplace like /bin or wherever, likely you will have to manually remove them
[06:04] <genii-around> hateball: Depends on the build script, some dump them in working folder, some put them in the system directories
[06:04] <aeiou_> genii-around: ok...also will this installation not appear as an app from 'dash home' after installation?
[06:05] <genii-around> aeiou_: "dash home" is a unity feature, you are in #kubuntu :-)
[06:06] <aeiou_> genii-around: no i am using unity as of now....anyway, wont it appear as an app separately?
[06:06] <genii-around> But anyhow.. from manually installed stuff you may as well have to remove things they put in your home directory like .Desktop  files or so on
[06:07] <genii-around> aeiou_: I'd say probably, but I really don't know in this case
[06:07] <aeiou_> genii-around : then how else would u run it?
[06:09] <genii-around> aeiou_: I'm not currently up on Unity, you'd have to ask someone in #ubuntu about it. This is #kubuntu, where we use primarily the KDE desktop
[06:10] <genii-around> eg: You're in the wrong channel if you're running Ubuntu and not Kubuntu
[08:02] <lexsmooth> подскажите как называется рускоязычный канал?)
[08:03] <Unit193> !ru | lexsmooth
[08:03] <lexsmooth> thx
[08:06] <blue12> what is the name of the KUBUNTu package i need to download from the ubuntu sofware center?
[08:09] <blue12> anyone......what is the name of the KUBUNTu package i need to download from the ubuntu sofware center?
[08:16] <hateball> blue12: To get a full kubuntu desktop?
[08:16] <blue12> hateball : yes
[08:16] <hateball> That would be kubuntu-desktop :)
[08:28] <Bisheey> hey guys, after some upgrades my KDE stopped working, X-Server is starting up, but nothing happens afterwards, after logging into KDM AND using startx
[08:28] <Bisheey> it simply doesn't do anything
[08:28] <Bisheey> not even an errormsg or something
[08:29] <Bisheey> i think i updated the kernel image, but that is weird, since x-server is working fine
[08:33] <Bisheey> it seems like the kde session does not start
[08:39] <Bisheey> bg irssi
[08:41] <Bisheey> :(
[08:42] <Bisheey> if i start kwin manually for the DISPLAY, it says, that the dbus connection was already created, and kills the X-Server
[08:45] <gits1225> Recommendation for a good djvu reader?
[08:45] <Bisheey> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. this is what it says
[08:52] <elst> hi
[08:53] <elst> what is the link to download ubuntu server for network installation?
[08:54] <elst> for normal ubuntu lftp -c "open http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/; mirror netboot/"
[08:55] <elst> but for ubuntu server?
[09:16] <Bisheey> klauncher(11753) kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. Check if you have started the DBUS server. <- Im getting this but dbus is running :(???!ß
[11:36] <mah454> Hello
[11:36] <mah454> How can enable this effect in dolphin ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81PGq5zJG6Y
[11:36] <mah454> I installed kubuntu 12.04 ...
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:48] <Lammeri> hey everyone
[12:48] <Lammeri> Kubuntu installation hung on 90%
[12:49] <Lammeri> I think because of logout
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Lammeri, more detail please
[12:51] <Lammeri> writing from live cd. I was installing Kubuntu and pressed lock screen :/
[12:51] <Lammeri> now it stuck on 90%
[12:51] <Lammeri> maybe the lock screen wasn't the cause, idk for sure
[12:51] <BluesKaj> Lammeri, how are you installing ..ok then unlock , the install should continue
[12:52] <Lammeri> I unlocked, but it won't continue
[12:52] <Lammeri> Im installing from a dvd
[12:52] <Lammeri> well, from a dvd, but from cd image.
[12:52] <Lammeri> I mean i burn cd image on a dvd
[12:53] <Lammeri> is there a way to somehow refresh installation process?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Lammeri, that's fine , you may have to start the install over again, this time don't lock the screen
[12:54] <Lammeri> hell, my internet connection is slow and it had downloaded all updates and packs...
[12:54] <Lammeri> thx anyway BluesKaj
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Lammeri, it's usually better to install the updates/upgrades after the install is finished
[12:55] <Lammeri> okay, thank you. will do.
[16:00] <Guest64660> Hi all
[16:01] <Guest64660> I just installed 12.04 and I cannot get flash working with firefox. I've spent 2 days trying and for the life of me cannot figure it out
[16:10] <BluesKaj_> Guest64660, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:12] <Guest64660> BluesKaj_: do I need to remove the adobe flash plugin or just leave it?
[16:14] <charthy> Could someone help me? I can't boot into my system
[16:15] <Guest64660> What type of behavior are you getting <charthy>?
[16:17] <charthy> Guest64660: Well, right now, I get a message saying "Multiple Active Partitions" then it says to insert a bootable device and press enter
[16:18] <charthy> I already tried to use Boot-Repair, but with no luck, here is the report it gave me before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1052895/
[16:21] <Guest64660> What partition is not bootin? I'm suspecting your windows.
[16:21] <BluesKaj_> Guest64660, you can leave the flashplugin , it will probly be replaced when flashinstaller is installed
[16:22] <Guest64660> BluesKaj_: I removed all and installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras and still no go. I don't understand, I've never had a problem installing flash. I'm seriously stumped here
[16:23] <Guest64660> I've even got a 12.04 installation on another computer and it works just fine
[16:28] <Guest64660> youtube says "you need to upgrade your adobe flash player to view this video" So I click on the link and choose the apt for ubuntu version and I get this:
[16:28] <Guest64660> The address wasn't understood
[16:28] <Guest64660>       
[16:28] <Guest64660>         
[16:28] <Guest64660>         
[16:28] <FloodBotK1> Guest64660: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:33] <Guest64660> Wonder if I'm still muted
[16:34] <Guest64660> After about 14 years of using Linux, I'm seriously getting frusturated with it again over something as simple as flash :-/
[16:38] <Guest64660> I see why it's hard to get people to use linux. Unity is crap and now KDE is going the same route
[16:55] <aeiou> whenever i use the cmake statment i am getting the following error...""CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:98 (MESSAGE):   ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in"""Pls help
[17:03] <Guest19594> Looks like I'm going to have to go to 10.10 or 11.04
[17:04] <Guest19594> I can't believe it's so hard getting flash working
[17:15] <aeiou> anyone.....whenever i use the cmake statment i am getting the following error...""CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:98 (MESSAGE):   ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in"""Pls help
[17:26] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[17:38] <phoenix_firebrd> anyone using creative soundbalster sound card?
[17:49] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd: I"m using an X-Fi.
[17:49] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: what is your kde version?
[17:49] <DarthFrog> Precise.
[17:49] <DarthFrog> Oh, KDE.  Hang on.
[17:50] <DarthFrog> 4.8.3
[17:50] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: how is kmix working for you?
[17:50] <DarthFrog> Well enough, I suppose.  I only use it for volume control.
[17:51] <DarthFrog> I have a Logitech keyboard with  built-in sound controls.  They work.
[17:52] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: does it work correctly when you change channels example from analog stereo to 5.1 ?
[17:53] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd: No idea.  I don't do that kind of stuff.  Volume up/down or mute.  That's all I ever do.
[17:53] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: can you check for me?
[17:53] <DarthFrog> Don't have a 5.1 speaker system anyway.  Though I do have a sub-woofer.
[17:54] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: we wont need that, we have to just change the channel and see
[17:54] <DarthFrog> All that stuff would be part of pulseaudio, I would think.
[17:54] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: no
[17:55] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: its kmix
[17:55] <DarthFrog> Kmix only gives me a volume control.
[17:55] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: ya
[17:55] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: can you check ?
[17:55] <DarthFrog> I only have analog stereo as an option.
[17:55] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: in profile?
[17:56] <DarthFrog> OK, actually Phonon lets me choose.  What do you want me to test?
[17:56] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: change it to 5.1 or 7.1
[17:57] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: after the change how is the kmix taskbar icon?
[17:57] <DarthFrog> 5.1 works.
[17:58] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: it will, hiw is the taskbar icon?
[17:58] <DarthFrog> At least the front left and right speakers work.
[17:58] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: it will, how is the taskbar icon?
[17:59] <DarthFrog> Systray says "Mixer cannot be found" and shows a blank page for an icon.  Though clicking on it brings up the slider volume control.
[18:00] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: thank you so much, so the bug in kmix is now confirmed
[18:00] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: it is because the master channel is not configued automatically
[18:01] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: you have to right click on the taskbar icon and choose select master channel
[18:01] <danielo> hey
[18:01] <danielo> Have any one of you can update nvidia driver to the newest
[18:01] <danielo> ?
[18:02] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: choosing a master channel from the kmix main window wont refresh the icon
[18:03] <danielo> I've added ppa ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates, update and then
[18:03] <danielo> I've installed nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[18:03] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: yesterday i fixed this bug, going to consult the kde developers about this bug
[18:03] <danielo> but nothig changed
[18:05] <phoenix_firebrd> danielo: if you want the latest driver, you have to get it from nvidia website, but that is unsafe
[18:05] <phoenix_firebrd> danielo: you mean the version has not chaned?
[18:05] <danielo> yea
[18:05] <phoenix_firebrd> danielo: you mean the version has not changed?
[18:05] <danielo> version is still the same
[18:05] <danielo> http://www.unixmen.com/nvidia-302-17-has-been-released-install-in-ubuntu12-04-linuxmint13-fedora17/
[18:06] <danielo> I found something like that
[18:06] <phoenix_firebrd> danielo: did you restart after installing the driver?
[18:06] <danielo> yea
[18:06] <danielo> I know a little unix :p
[18:06] <danielo> I thought that I have tho change it in setting
[18:07] <danielo> where we pick the driver device
[18:08] <danielo> with jockey-kde
[18:08] <danielo> but there is nothing new
[18:11] <phoenix_firebrd> danielo: what is the current driver version show by nvidia settings>?
[18:11] <danielo> 295.49
[18:11] <danielo> 64bits
[18:12] <danielo> and I wanted 302.17
[18:12] <L3top> danielo: why do you want 302?
[18:13] <danielo> the are new feature
[18:13] <L3top> What new feature?
[18:13] <danielo> abbillity to change screens etc without restarting xorg
[18:13] <danielo> :P
[18:19] <phoenix_firebrd> danielo: what is you kubuntu version?
[18:19] <danielo> 12.04
[18:19] <danielo> up to date
[18:21] <phoenix_firebrd> danielo: open muon and see the version for nvidia-current there
[18:22] <danielo> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-302.17-driver.html
[18:22] <phoenix_firebrd> danielo: open muon and see the version for nvidia-current there
[18:23] <danielo> under nvidia-current is that version :p
[18:23] <phoenix_firebrd> danielo: can you try to purge and reinstall again?
[18:24] <danielo> for now I am changing to  current
[18:24] <danielo> cause I had choosen current-updates :p
[18:24] <danielo> gonna reboot
[18:25] <graft> hi, how do i make duplex printing the default on a printer?
[18:29] <danielo_> thanks guys
[18:29] <danielo_> :D
[18:29] <danielo_> it works :D
[18:31] <phoenix_firebrd> danielo_: enjoy
[18:32] <danielo_> now I can detect displays connected without relogin
[18:32] <danielo_> :D
[18:32] <danielo_> it is great :p
[18:57] <AceKing> Can someone help please? For some reason I lost sound on my PC a couple of days ago, and I can't figure out wny. KMix wont start up either. It looks like it's going to start, and then hangs up for about 10 seconds or so then shuts down.
[19:42] <alrea7> hi
[19:43] <alrea7> please how i can open file like open with in windows i refer to programfiles bit here im lost pls help
[19:43] <alrea7> please how i can open file like open with in windows i refer to programfiles bit here im lost pls help
[19:44] <alrea7> open wit where ihane to go which directory
[19:45] <BluesKaj_> alrea7, se the whire "K" with the gearicon on left panel , click on it
[19:45] <BluesKaj_> white
[19:46] <alrea7> ok
[19:46] <BluesKaj_> also known as the kicker
[19:46] <alrea7> ?
[19:48] <alrea7> i mean i have file it ask me to chose which app to use to asociate with but i cant log to app as idont knew its directory should i go to system or root or user or ???
[19:49] <BluesKaj_> which app is it ?
[19:49] <alrea7> my question is where the aplication place and dot what in windows its .exe
[19:51] <alrea7> say i want to open word file then system say sorywe dont dind aplication to open it please search which app want to use to open ?
[19:52] <alrea7> ok thank u ill find out
[19:52] <BluesKaj_> like a text file ?
[19:52] <BluesKaj_> usually files that need an application associated with it can be found in /usr/bin , alt+f2 , kdesudo dolphin /usr/bin
[19:53] <alrea7> yes that the answer im looking for thank u
[19:54] <BluesKaj_> you're welcome , alrea7
[20:30] <alrea7> hi all
[20:30] <Galvatron> Hi
[20:30] <alrea7> please im looking for program which ican use in kubuntu like hotspot ?
[20:32] <alrea7> many programes not working here but in windows normaly i use hotspot to go throw now ihave no java no support
[20:32] <alrea7> even icant update
[20:33] <Galvatron> What i this Hotspot program?
[20:33] <alrea7> is there some thing i can use
[20:33] <alrea7> ok
[20:33] <Galvatron> Plese be more specific
[20:33] <Galvatron> What exactly doesn't work
[20:34] <Galvatron> Your description is way to brief
[20:34] <alrea7> you knew my country panned im from sudan so here we have no chrome nor adope flash player nor java ect???? so we use hotspot to download as it hide my ip and country
[20:36] <alrea7> this in windows
[20:36] <alrea7> but here idont know ho to solve it
[20:36] <Galvatron> alrea7: All of this in in the Ubuntu repositories
[20:37] <Galvatron> Flash and Java are in the Restricted Extras - sudo apt-get install restricted extras.
[20:37] <alrea7> yes but not in kubuntu iuse zion al it work but now icant download vuze as it need hava to run
[20:38] <Galvatron> Kubuntu = Ubuntu + KDE, so all is the same
[20:39] <Galvatron> If something's wrong with the local repos, try switching to a server for another country, like the US
[20:41] <alrea7> i will try it as a cant download some update software it ask to mark and it dosent work because it dosent dowlad i belive propliem is that as flash work good with me in youtube but when i need to download from youtube by ading link it dosnt work because it need java
[20:42] <alrea7> you mean if ichoose usa in mycountry it work
[20:42] <L3top> alrea7: what version are you on? what is the output of lsb_release -sc
[20:42] <alrea7> 12.04
[20:43] <L3top> alrea7: As an alternative you could try adding these to the top of your /etc/apt/sources.list, and then running sudo apt-get update http://pastebin.com/yGcfajsk
[20:44] <L3top> Then try to receive the packages.
[20:44] <L3top> It will search for mirrors closest to you.
[20:44] <alrea7> alrea7@alrea7-desktop:~$  sudo apt-get install restricted extras.
[20:44] <alrea7> [sudo] password for alrea7:
[20:44] <alrea7> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:44] <alrea7> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:44] <alrea7> alrea7@alrea7-desktop:~$
[20:44] <alrea7> ok
[20:44] <FloodBotK1> alrea7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:45] <alrea7> ok
[20:45] <L3top> Something else is already trying to install, or update or something. Do you have software center open (muon I guess)? If so, close it.
[20:46] <L3top> It would also not look like that
[20:46] <alrea7> yes im trying again with fuze it already finish
[20:46] <L3top> It would be sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:46] <alrea7> ok
[20:46] <L3top> spaces indicate more than one package to apt
[20:47] <alrea7> i will try
[20:49] <BluesKaj_> alrea7, open a terminal , sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:49] <alrea7> also if ican ask wht is the pest compize program as i try the desktop efect it stuck until i remove plur now it work
[20:50] <BluesKaj_> oops sorry din't see that L3top, i just scrolled down
[20:50] <L3top> no worries ;)
[20:51] <BluesKaj_> alrea7, do lspci | grep VGA , to find your graphics card
[20:51] <alrea7> it working now i think as i use sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:51] <BluesKaj_> ok
[20:52] <alrea7> its poor i use old asrock motherboard
[20:55] <alrea7> i have this gray massege Configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer with whole pade
[20:55] <L3top> yeah... msttcorefonts is... it is a terrible installer. Nothing to be done.
[20:56] <alrea7> it end wht ok wit no respone to mouse click
[20:56] <L3top> hit enter or tab enter
[20:56] <alrea7> yes
[20:56] <alrea7> no thing
[20:56] <BluesKaj_> BBL
[20:56] <alrea7> it stuck
[20:57] <L3top> no... it is just a pain.
[20:57] <alrea7> ?
[20:57] <L3top> I dont remember what you have to do
[20:57] <L3top> arrow
[20:57] <L3top> press the letter O
[20:57] <L3top> It is not intuitive
[20:57] <L3top> the OK will change color when it is selected
[20:57] <alrea7> no?
[20:58] <L3top> one second
[20:58] <alrea7> ok
[20:59] <L3top> yes it is tab
[20:59] <L3top> keep hitting tab till OK changes color
[21:00] <alrea7> yes
[21:01] <alrea7> it work
[21:02] <alrea7> but what this ut download now how ican use it
[21:05] <alrea7> r uthere
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[21:07] <alrea7> same
[21:08] <alrea7> Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isn't associated with any program.
[21:09] <alrea7> ok ihave to go thank you
[21:11] <L3top> Sorry, was busy. You don't use it, programs use it... it is just the microsoft font set. Makes things like wine work.
[21:11] <L3top> oh... he's gone...
[21:34] <IlBabi> Ciao
[21:34] <IlBabi> Ho una 10.04 e non riesco a fare l'upgrade alla 12.04
[21:35] <BarkingFish> !it | IlBabi
[21:35] <IlBabi> I'm sorry
[21:35] <BarkingFish> No problem
[21:35] <BarkingFish> :)
[21:35] <IlBabi>  /join #ubuntu-it
[21:44] <jmil> please help -- a software search shows a package.. then i click more info and it says the package is not in my software source
[21:44] <jmil> if it's not in my software source, then how did the search result come up in the first place??
[21:44] <jmil> it's for pouetchess
[21:49] <jmil> help
[21:49] <jmil> \help
[21:52] <mydogsnameisrudy> jmil:  cant help you , i dont know what you need
[21:59] <Walzmyn> I've got my taskbar set to only show windows on the current desktop, which it does with everything but GIMP. How can I make GIMP play by the same rules?
[22:05] <jmil> where is kubuntu tech support?
[22:25] <BarkingFish> jmil, hi. Sorry to keep you waiting, I've been busy elsewhere.
[22:25] <BarkingFish> Which package is your system telling you that you need, and which version of Kubuntu are you running please?
[22:25] <jmil> BarkingFish: you are tech support?
[22:26] <BarkingFish> part of it, yes :)
[22:26] <jmil> kubuntu 12.04 and trying to install pouetchess
[22:26] <jmil> thank you
[22:26] <jmil> in muon package manager pouetchess is not found
[22:26] <jmil> but in ubuntu software center pouetchess IS found
[22:26] <jmil> but then when i click more info it says it is not part of my software sources
[22:27] <BarkingFish> hm.
[22:27] <jmil> BUT... if it's not part of my software sources then how could package manager find it in the first place BarkingFish?
[22:27] <BarkingFish> Ok, give me one moment please while I check this.
[22:27] <jmil> thank you
[22:27] <BarkingFish> That is a very good question, let me look
[22:28] <BarkingFish> Now this is odd, it's not showing as available for me either.
[22:28] <BarkingFish> let me go look at our pools, hold on :)
[22:30] <BarkingFish> jmil, it is available, but it's in a specific repository.  It may be that muon is finding it because it's mentioned elsewhere.
[22:30] <BarkingFish> Let me get the details on how to add that repository to your system
[22:31] <jmil> hmmm... ok thank you BarkingFish!
[22:31] <jmil> i appreciate your time
[22:31] <BarkingFish> no problem#
[22:31] <BarkingFish> i often sit here all night with nothing to do, it's good to get some work done :)
[22:32] <BarkingFish> jmil, could you just tell me please, which country you're located in? It will help me localise the repository for you to add
[22:32] <jmil> usa
[22:36] <BarkingFish> jmil, ok - this is what you need to do:  can you open a terminal prog up please?  konsole if you have it :)
[22:36] <jmil> i'm ready
[22:36]  * jmil loves kubuntu
[22:36] <BarkingFish> when you're in there, type the following:   sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main multiverse universe restricted'
[22:37] <BarkingFish> exactly as you see it, apostrophes and all :)
[22:37] <BarkingFish> enter your password and it should add the necessary repositories to your setup
[22:37] <jmil> done
[22:37] <jmil> now how do i update?
[22:37] <BarkingFish> jmil, great - type this:  sudo apt-get update
[22:37] <jmil> sudo apt-get update is enough to pull it in?
[22:38] <BarkingFish> yep
[22:38] <jmil> then i will be able to do "sudo apt-get install pouetchess" ??
[22:38] <BarkingFish> that will update all of your sources in one go
[22:38] <BarkingFish> then yes, sudo apt-get install pouetchess will do it
[22:38] <BarkingFish> if you get any errors when you attempt the install, please let me know :)
[22:39] <BarkingFish> I found the package in our universe pool - http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/
[22:39] <BarkingFish> (that's the local UK one mind, archive.ubuntu.com is the universal one)
[22:39] <jmil> barkingfish: got the error: E: Package 'pouetchess' has no installation candidate
[22:39] <BarkingFish> damn.
[22:39] <BarkingFish> Sorry
[22:39] <BarkingFish> let me look this over
[22:40] <jmil> did it install for you?
[22:40] <BarkingFish> I may need to refer this up the ladder to our development team
[22:40] <BarkingFish> hold on
[22:40] <BarkingFish> I haven't tried yet :)
[22:42] <BarkingFish> nope, it didn't.
[22:42] <BarkingFish> Please hold on a bit, I'm gonna refer this up to our development team, may be a duff package
[22:49] <BarkingFish> I'm still with you, jmil - just trying to resolve this for you.
[22:49] <BarkingFish> Evening JMichaelX :)
[22:49] <jmil> thx BarkingFish
[22:50] <JMichaelX> evening to you, too, BarkingFish
[22:51] <BarkingFish> I don't suppose you'd be able to help me with this, JMichaelX, would you?  Brief problem. There's a package called pouetchess - both myself and jmil have it in our software sources, but it's refusing to install.
[22:51] <BarkingFish> I've tried raising -devel to see if it's a software or pool issue, nobody seems to be around
[22:51] <BarkingFish> I know it's in the pools though, I can see it :)  http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/pouetchess/
[22:53] <BarkingFish> jmil gets told there's "No installation candidate" for the package, i just get clearly told "unable to locate package"
[22:53] <JMichaelX> hmm, i have pouetchess installed here. i just fired it up, and it just screwed up my KDE desktop
[22:53] <jmil> interesting
[22:53] <jmil> i heard pouetchess is the best one, so i wanted to install it
[22:53] <jmil> but maybe if there's another chhess that's good, that'd be find
[22:53] <jmil> fine
[22:54] <JMichaelX> it is appearing to me as if pouetchess was removed from the repositories
[22:55] <BarkingFish> That's odd then, the UK archive still shows it's there :)
[22:55] <JMichaelX> BarkingFish: in precise?
[22:55] <BarkingFish> yes
[22:56] <BarkingFish> er, actually - no
[22:56] <JMichaelX> brb
[22:56] <BarkingFish> It has been removed from pool
[22:56] <jmil> but it's clearly an ubuntu bug so i thought i'd try to report it
[22:56] <BarkingFish> The last update was more than 2 or 3 years ago
[22:57] <BarkingFish> It's not going to be available for this distribution, jmil - I apologise. I misread our source service
[22:57] <BarkingFish> are you looking to play chess online with other users?
[22:57] <jmil> ya
[22:57] <jmil> darn
[22:58] <jmil> i heard pouetchess was the best
[22:59] <JMichaelX> BarkingFish: yea, i am sure my installation of pouetchess is left over from a time when it was in the repos. i wonder why it was pulled.
[22:59] <BarkingFish> JMichaelX, not been updated for nearly 3 years
[22:59] <JMichaelX> jmil: you could give dreamchess a try
[22:59] <BarkingFish> I looked again at the pool, last update was waaaaay back in 2009
[23:00] <JMichaelX> pouetchess sure did not play very nicely with the KDE panel
[23:02] <JMichaelX> that's too bad. i hope someone picks pouetchess back up again.
[23:03] <JMichaelX> jmil: dreamchess seems to work nicely here.
[23:03] <BarkingFish> JMichaelX, I'd like to see it reinstated, but it will be a pain in the proverbials to get it running with KDE now, I would imagine - it'll need a lot of updating.   I have no idea how many revisions of KDE have passed in 3 years
[23:19] <JMichaelX> lol dreamchess in fullscreen mode messes of the panel, as well
[23:25] <nafg> I have Konsole set as Show a Launcher When Not Running, on the Icon-Only Task Manager (taskbar).
[23:26] <JMichaelX> it does look to me as if a person could install pouetchess, using binaries from a few ubuntu-iterations ago, and be fine
[23:26] <nafg> When I reboot when Konsole was running, it starts up again since the session is saved and restored. The taskbar thinks it's not running though so clicking the icon starts a new instance.