[01:57] <CarlFK> Failed to fetch http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/oneiric/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[01:57] <CarlFK> where did the debug debs go?
[08:03] <kai> hggdh: thank you. bug is filed. :)
[09:21] <AlexzAK> Hi. Is any body here?
[10:29] <AlexzAK> Why this chat is so silent?
[10:30] <AlexzAK> 124 people: Are you zombies? or some thing?
[10:32] <jpds> AlexzAK: Just ask your question and if someone knows the answer they'll help.
[10:34] <AlexzAK> jpds: Can you help me with bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/readline6/+bug/1015744
[10:34] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1015744 in readline6 "Bash history navigation keys should be enabled in the config" [Undecided,New]
[10:35] <AlexzAK> All Gentoo installations have this feature enabled by default. But Ubuntu distro has no
[10:35] <jpds> AlexzAK: Erm, bash already does that.
[10:35] <AlexzAK> jpds: This feature disabled in default readline config
[10:35] <jpds> ...by default.
[10:36] <AlexzAK> jpds: Page up key search history back regarding what you already typed?
[10:36] <jpds> AlexzAK: Yes.
[10:37] <AlexzAK> I don't see it working in any ubuntu distro for five year actually... I don't understend
[10:38] <jpds> AlexzAK: I've had it working all the time I've used Ubuntu since 5.04.
[10:38] <AlexzAK> so use case:
[10:38] <AlexzAK> 0. disable custom bash config
[10:38] <AlexzAK> 1. type ls and space
[10:38] <AlexzAK> 2. press Page up
[10:38] <AlexzAK> 3. Nothing happens
[10:38] <jpds> AlexzAK: Oh, page up, I just use the up arrow key.
[10:39] <AlexzAK> Yes, Page Up are not interating over history, but do searching
[10:40] <jpds> I do Ctrl-R if I need to search.
[10:40] <jpds> Oh well.
[10:41] <AlexzAK> So you affected by this bug too. This is good
[10:41] <jpds> Not really, I use zsh. ;)
[10:41] <AlexzAK> Can you uncomment lines from my patch in the /etc/inputrc config
[10:42] <AlexzAK> jpds: I use zsh too. About five years ago I installed it, because bash not allowed to press PageUp/PageDown
[10:43] <AlexzAK> jpds: Do you know bash and readline maintainers?
[10:43] <AlexzAK> Can you talk to them?
[10:48] <jpds> No, they'll look into the bug when they have time.
[10:49] <jpds> AlexzAK: Also, it would probably be better to send that feature request to Debian.
[10:50] <AlexzAK> Launchpad says that there are one mainteiner for both Debian and Ubuntu
[10:52] <jpds> AlexzAK: Still, send it to the Debian bug tracker, no point introducing a delta purely in Ubuntu
[10:53] <AlexzAK> I will wait for maintainer response of course. But this problem was originally reported here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/readline6/+bug/103986
[10:53] <AlexzAK> It was a year 2007
[10:53] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 103986 in base-files "Update inputrc config and bash config" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[10:54] <AlexzAK> I will try to send it to Debian
[12:48] <Logan_> I can't seem to triage any bugs anymore... can anyone help?
[12:48] <Logan_> I haven't tried in a while, and I'm part of the Ubuntu Bug Squad group.
[12:49] <Logan_> Oh, hggdh, you're here.
 I can't seem to triage any bugs anymore... can anyone help?
 I haven't tried in a while, and I'm part of the Ubuntu Bug Squad group.
[12:49] <Logan_> Can you help? :)
[12:50] <hggdh> Logan_: what exactly do you need?
[12:50] <Logan_> I can't mark any Ubuntu bugs as Triaged.
[12:50] <Logan_> It's greyed out.
[12:51] <Logan_> But I'm part of the Ubuntu BugSquad group on Launchpad, which should allow me to triage bugs, no?
[12:52] <hggdh> Logan_: yes, you can triage, but you have to be a member of BugControl to set bugs to Triaged (and a few other actions)
[12:52] <Logan_> Oh...
[12:52]  * Logan_ is silly.
[12:52] <hggdh> BugControl membership is a bit more involved
[12:53] <hggdh> Logan_: please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl
[12:53] <Logan_> Reading now. :)
[12:53] <Logan_> I might try applying.
[12:53] <Logan_> I have done a ton of triaging.
[12:54] <hggdh> Logan_: make sure you have at least 5 bugs that shine on showing your triager work
[12:54] <Logan_> And I recently started teaching myself packaging. :P
[12:54] <Logan_> Yeah, definitely. I'll see what I can find.
[12:54]  * hggdh would have to sa -1
[12:54] <Logan_> Hmm?
[12:55] <hggdh> output got confusing due to personal dislexia and tired status
[12:55] <Logan_> Ah. :P
[12:55] <Logan_> I'm going through the [needs-packaging] backlog right now.
[12:56] <Logan_> You wouldn't believe how many aren't linked to Debian WNPP bugs.
[12:56] <hggdh> I meant: if you do not give us 5 nice bugs showing you *triager* work, I would hate it, but would vote -1 on your application
[12:56] <Logan_> Oh, I see.
[12:56] <hggdh> I would believe... we are way behind on upstreaming
[12:56] <Logan_> I know. :/
[12:57] <Logan_> I've been spending most of my triaging time linking to upstream bugs, registering upstream projects, etc.
[12:57] <Logan_> I think that's important.
[12:57] <hggdh> it if, and we do thank you for this work
[12:57] <Logan_> :)
[12:57]  * hggdh goes bang head on wall for a while, dyxlexia is quite strong now
[12:58] <hggdh> s/it if/it is/
[12:58] <Logan_> You should probably sleep. :P
[12:58] <hggdh> I officially got out of bed one hour ago :-)
[12:58] <Logan_> Ah.
[12:59] <Logan_> Well, this in interesting packaging request: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/885574
[12:59] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 885574 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] cheermeup request for packaging" [Wishlist,New]
[12:59] <Logan_> "Sends affirmative messages to the currently logged in users via the notification library. The affirmative messages are intended to boost the user's self-esteem by telling the user he or she is a great person, that someone loves him or her, etc.
[12:59] <Logan_> "
[13:00] <hggdh> er
[13:00] <hggdh> now, there is space for everything, I guess
[13:00] <Logan_> Seems a bit silly.
[13:01] <hggdh> well, for me it does, but this would be my view only. There is space for all
[13:01] <Daekdroom> I can't see how needing an app for telling you how great you are for no reason at all boosts self-steem.
[13:06] <Logan_> hggdh: I should also request to be an Ubuntu member at this point...
[13:06] <Logan_> Hmm.
[13:07] <Logan_> Meh, it says 6 months of continuous contribution. Looks like I'll be waiting a bit. :P
[13:07] <hggdh> Logan_: you can. Please try to get testimonials from people you have dealt with, it does help
[13:08] <hggdh> Daekdroom: neither do I, but this is a personal opinion, and should be influence the packaging of an application
[13:08] <Daekdroom> shouldn't?
[13:08] <hggdh> meaning, it *will* influence my decision to package it (I will not), but it is still a valid package
[13:09] <Daekdroom> Hm.
[13:09] <Daekdroom> So it is a valid package but you'll leave it to someone else to step up for because you don't think it is useful?
[13:10] <hggdh> I do not see I will have time to work on it -- there are other more important (in my humble view) work to be performed
[13:12] <hggdh> Daekdroom: as always, one is free to select to work (or not) on a particular bug
[21:12] <epikvision> how can one help for the papercut project?