[00:47] <vibhav> Any op available?
[00:47] <IdleOne> yes
[00:47] <IdleOne> what's up vibhav ?
[00:48] <vibhav> NOthing much
[00:48] <vibhav> I was asking wether my ban from #ubuntu could be removed
[00:48] <vibhav> whether*
[00:49] <IdleOne> I'll have to talk to the other ops about it. Can I get back to you a little later about it?
[00:49] <vibhav> sure
[00:49] <IdleOne> cool :)
[00:49] <vibhav> But could you try to do it before 2nd July?
[00:49] <IdleOne> What is the 2nd of July?
[00:50] <vibhav> DMB meeting
[00:50] <vibhav> Ive applied for contributing developers
[00:50] <IdleOne> What happens at this DMB meeting?
[00:51] <bkerensa> IdleOne: they determine whether he gets upload rights
[00:51] <bkerensa> IdleOne: although its held in #ubuntu-meeting
[00:51] <bkerensa> not #ubuntu
[00:51] <IdleOne> yes, but being banned from the main support channel looks bad
[00:51] <bkerensa> True
[00:52] <vibhav> yup
[00:52] <IdleOne> vibhav: I'll get back to you soon'ish
[00:52] <IdleOne> before July 2
[00:53] <vibhav> thanks dude
[00:53] <IdleOne> bkerensa: Getting upload rights also makes you an Ubuntu member right?
[00:53] <bkerensa> no
[00:53] <IdleOne> intersting
[00:53] <IdleOne> interesting*
[00:54] <bkerensa> Ikr... not sure why it has M in the title it is a bit confusing
[00:54] <bkerensa> DMB's role is to determine whether someone gets MOTU/PPU/Core/Etc
[00:55] <bkerensa> vibhav has in reality done a lot of work in development so I would very surprised if the DMB declined him depending on what he is applying for specifically
[00:55] <IdleOne> @mark #ubuntu vibhav has requested that his ban be removed before July 2 2012. He is applying to the DMB for upload rights.
[00:57] <IdleOne> bkerensa: thanks for the info :)
[00:57] <bkerensa> no doubt
[00:58] <IdleOne> good band
[01:18] <JoseeAntonioR> problem apparently solved
[01:19] <chu> :)
[01:21] <genii-around> Heh. then right after: <mernilio> i need op status here. Is it possible?
[01:21] <JoseeAntonioR> mernilio still in #ubuntu, asking for ops to ban people from the channel, keeping the rude attitude
[01:21] <JoseeAntonioR> genii-around: yep! I thought he/she had calmed down
[01:29] <chu> Ahh zewb in #ubuntu
[01:29] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[01:31] <JoseeAntonioR> He's not listening to any advice
[01:32] <usr13> anywone awake?
[01:32] <chu> Ahh, that's not really contributing anything.
[01:32] <JoseeAntonioR> #u ops, need a quiet in zewb
[01:32] <usr13> there are some rather disruptive things going on....
[01:33] <chu> Cheers bazhang
[01:33] <JoseeAntonioR> usr13: an op has already taken the necessary actions in zewb, don't worry
[01:33] <JoseeAntonioR> bazhang: thanks again
[03:04] <bazhang> the bot can access redhat bugs db?
[03:09] <JoseeAntonioR> bazhang: nope, it returns an error
[03:11] <bazhang> JoseeAntonioR, for that particular bug, yes.
[03:11] <JoseeAntonioR> let me try with another bug, then
[03:11] <bazhang> ok
[03:12] <JoseeAntonioR> nope, same error, it changes the link
[03:13] <JoseeAntonioR> I give the show_bug.cgi page, and looks for xml.cgi
[03:14] <bazhang> cool
[03:14] <bazhang> it works for debian bugs
[03:15] <JoseeAntonioR> yep, it does
[06:29] <bkerensa> It can track some upstream
[06:29] <bkerensa> but Red Hat is clearly not Upstream :)
[06:31] <bkerensa> hmm not moz
 vampirnata: There's MATE-Desktop which is an exact GNOME 2 replica, you may enjoy using it if you're fan of the "classic" Ubuntu look (circa 10.04)
[09:53] <bazhang> augh
[09:53] <bazhang> dont dazzle me bro!
[09:53] <ikonia> the point that mate is based on the gnome2 branch, which is dead seems to be being lost on people
[09:54] <bazhang> shahgurliev seems to think #ubuntu is the UNIX knowledge channel
[09:59] <topyli> i haven't paid enough attention, but it seems the mate folks are actually trying to come up with a sustainable plan, including porting the stuff to gtk3 and gnome3 libs, and only maintaining things like the panel and metacity
[10:00] <topyli> no gurantee of course that such a plan really will work out
[10:00] <ikonia> topyli: I will wager considerable money it's not possible without a re-write
[10:01] <k1l_> i dont think thats gonna work. they had to rename code because of the depencies. the forked the gnome basic apps like nautilus and eog etc. to work with their "new" code
[10:01] <ikonia> agreed
[10:02] <topyli> we'll see. it certainly looks more sane than the old 'goneme' nonsense back in 2.0 days
[10:03] <ikonia> be interesting to see what they plan, but I just can't see it as a sustainable project/design
[10:03] <k1l_> honestly i hope they find a way because then the "gnome2-fanboys" will stop to start a unity/gnome3 flamewar every now and then
[10:04] <ikonia> it won't change that
[10:04] <topyli> i'd rather advertise the 'nostalgic' shell extensions than mate for gnome2 fans
[10:04] <ikonia> the work mint is doing with extensions seems to be the most sensible approach
[10:04] <ikonia> they are using gnome 3 as it was designed
[10:05] <topyli> yes
[10:06] <topyli> anyway, once gnome 4 is out, gnome 3 will be declared 'perfect'. that's how it's always been :)
[10:06] <astraljava> You make it sound like nostalgia is a bad thing.
[10:07] <topyli> well we don't have people pining for gnome 1 these days, do we
[10:07] <Myrtti> "#ubuntu-offtopic"
[10:07] <bazhang> kde3.5 more like
[10:07] <topyli> right :)
[10:12] <bazhang> terminhell giving odd advice
[10:12] <bazhang> ah right, he does not even use Ubuntu
[10:16] <jpds> Nothing like misinformation.
[10:17] <bazhang> neither he nor theadmin use Ubuntu. recommending MATE and the like as well.
[10:17] <ikonia> I like how "they do exist, just not in ubuntu" so where to they exist ? in the air ? I use the "bubble" group on my machine does that make it "bubble exists, just not in ubuntu"
[15:48] <bazhang> oCean, apologies at not being available for PM earlier
[15:49] <bazhang> have had to set +g due to noxious spammers via PM
[15:49] <oCean> bazhang: not a problem at all
[15:49] <oCean> really
[15:50] <oCean> that can be a pain :(
 can i be operator in this xchat like ubottu
[15:54] <oCean> ehm..
 hey vibhav, what did the rapist say to his victim ?
[17:07] <bazhang> some intervention in -ot needed
[17:08] <IdleOne> you intervened :)
[17:09] <bazhang> that deserves a +b
[17:16] <IdleOne> @btlogin
[17:33] <bazhang> martinphone has a history of doing this
[18:36] <oCean> Guest68204: hi
[20:16] <IdleOne> Guest68204: is there anything I can help you with?
[20:17] <Unit193> His connection, and autoidentify, it's M0hi.
[20:17] <IdleOne> oh.
[20:17] <IdleOne> k then :)
[20:17] <Unit193> Seems like he may have left it open.
[22:24] <bkerensa> IdleOne: to clarify apparently DMB can potentially provide membership but it does not seem like that is a frequent function?