[14:25] <maxolasersquad> ShawnR: A future where one company does the hardware, the OS, and is the gatekeeper of the software is not very exciting to me. I'm very surprised to see Microsoft trying to clone Apple's business model. They have historically had two different business models, and Microsoft has historically been the winner.
[14:45] <maxolasersquad> I'm still reluctant to pass of Microsoft has being able to enter into the tablet/phone market. They have a lot of money and influence. I believe that in time they could gain the critical mass necessary to become a viable player.
[14:47] <ropetin> They have the potential, but they will be unlikely to succeed in my opinion.  They've been through things like this before and they are never able to seal the deal
[14:47] <ropetin> Windows Phone 7 is apparenty pretty good, but unless they go heavily after the BlackBerry market, they don't really have a position
[14:49] <ropetin> Also, make -j48 is AWESOME
[16:06] <maxolasersquad> ropetin: I think going after the blackberry market is exactly how they will succeed. They finally have a solid product, and meanwhile Blackberry fans are going to have to find an exit strategy very soon, and Windows phones and tablets are probably a good fit, culturally speaking.
[16:07] <ropetin> +1 to that, but I have a horrible feeling they will ignore that market and try to go after iPhone users
[16:07] <ropetin> And that will never work
[16:12] <maxolasersquad> Oracle is accepting $0 in damaged from Google for its /ingringement/.
[16:21] <maxh> ropetin: There's still a blackberry market? :P
[16:22] <ropetin> maxh: yup, but slowly dying.  Which sucks on some levels
[16:23] <ropetin> I have a blackberry for work, and it does exactly what it needs to do
[16:23] <ropetin> No more, no less
[16:23] <ropetin> Of course my personal phone is Android ;)
[16:44] <DammitJim> anyone got a Galaxy S2 from T-Mobile?