| rick_h_ | nullspace: doh, dude! | 00:38 |
|---|---|---|
| nullspace | rick_h_: sorry about this | 00:48 |
| nullspace | she is having some stomach issues and doesn't want to be left alone | 00:48 |
| nullspace | we can wait a week or work something out tomorrow as I've got a half day tomorrow | 00:50 |
| rick_h_ | yea, can't tomorrow. I can bring next week | 00:51 |
| snap-l | http://miek.nl/files/go/ | 01:46 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: ^^ | 01:46 |
| Blazeix | thanks | 01:48 |
| snap-l | http://www.metalinjection.net/around-the-interwebs/a-vehicle-for-the-drummer-on-the-go | 03:53 |
| rick_h_ | the last paragraph ftw http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-June/120512.html | 11:22 |
| snap-l | Um... | 11:26 |
| snap-l | as a former system admin who liked the consistency of his system-level packages, I take issue with that. ;) | 11:27 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 11:27 |
| snap-l | Virtualenv and the package management make it very easy to get a level of consistency, but if one machine barfs on the "foour or five" commands, and leaves it in an inconsistent state, I want to a system that can get it back up to speed quickly | 11:30 |
| rick_h_ | I don't see how it does anything to the system. a simple rm -rf gets things cleaned up | 11:31 |
| snap-l | I can do a quick rpm command to check the integrity of the package | 11:31 |
| snap-l | and do a multi-ssh to see what versions of packages are on the system | 11:31 |
| snap-l | with RPM or deb | 11:31 |
| rick_h_ | for p in packagedir; cat `bin/pip freeze` | 11:32 |
| snap-l | I can also put additional scripts into the rpm or deb packages to do post-install cleanup | 11:32 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: That assumes that pip didn't bomb halfway through | 11:32 |
| snap-l | or that one of the files didn't get corrupted on dis | 11:33 |
| snap-l | k | 11:33 |
| snap-l | Developers have a hard time realizing that what their sysadmins do is more like a MASH unit | 11:33 |
| snap-l | triage quickly, determine what can be salvaged, and work from there | 11:34 |
| snap-l | And God help him if one of his 4 or 5 commands is "curl gihub.com/..." | 11:35 |
| rick_h_ | no no no, it's pip -e git@github.... | 11:35 |
| snap-l | fuck me | 11:35 |
| snap-l | ;) | 11:35 |
| snap-l | Get Chris back on the show. There's a paddling waiting for him | 11:36 |
| rick_h_ | bookie used to do that to carry around a version of the parser stuff from git | 11:36 |
| snap-l | but yes, virtualenv makes it very seductive to just go rm -rf virtualenvdir and reinstall | 11:37 |
| snap-l | and if I was dealing with a package-level corruption, I'd probably do that first | 11:37 |
| snap-l | possibly a mv to see what happened | 11:37 |
| rick_h_ | triage :) | 11:37 |
| rick_h_ | make clean && make | 11:37 |
| rick_h_ | there's your triage | 11:38 |
| rick_h_ | fail again...punt to the dev "it's broken!" | 11:38 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: There is no punting to the dev at 3am. ;) | 11:38 |
| rick_h_ | make downtime | 11:38 |
| rick_h_ | that's `make downtime` | 11:38 |
| snap-l | God, the fucking squirrels are randy. | 11:39 |
| rick_h_ | swaps out for a single served file that says "Sorry, we're currently unavailable...our dev broke crap" | 11:39 |
| shakes808 | Good morning | 11:44 |
| rick_h_ | dammit, going to go ape on this stupid library | 11:45 |
| rick_h_ | oh, and morning shakes808 | 11:45 |
| shakes808 | rick_h_; looks like the morning is going well for you ;) .... I am going to guess that "stupid library" is referencing Django? | 11:46 |
| rick_h_ | no, pep381client | 11:47 |
| rick_h_ | it's doing stupid crap that I want to clean up but when I open the library it's even more stupid than I thought | 11:47 |
| rick_h_ | and...I'm going to have to install java. son of a ... (separate work item for the day) | 11:48 |
| shakes808 | lol. But Java is good. It contains caffine. You can get it all sorts of ways. I prefer mine in a Frap! :D ;) | 12:00 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Java? You finally moving the Eclipse like real coders? | 12:32 |
| rick_h_ | no, but the yui3 gallery build system uses ant | 12:32 |
| rick_h_ | so if I want to get my code into the yui3 gallery...an ant'ing we will go | 12:33 |
| rick_h_ | I'm having a good OSS day. Adding code to yui3 gallery for all to share/love. | 12:33 |
| rick_h_ | pep8/ing adding code to the pep381client | 12:33 |
| brousch | You're a good man | 12:33 |
| brousch | I got an email this morning. My PyOhio talk was accepted | 12:34 |
| rick_h_ | heh, we'll see how happy he is to get "PEP8 all the things!" as a MP comment | 12:34 |
| brousch | rick_h_: I assume you also got an email | 12:51 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, got the email | 12:55 |
| rick_h_ | you get in? | 12:55 |
| brousch | I did | 12:55 |
| rick_h_ | awesome | 12:55 |
| shakes808 | brousch: congrats ;) | 12:55 |
| brousch | Yeah, well yesterday I thoguht I was out and free. now the weight is back! | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch so so awesome | 12:56 |
| shakes808 | which one did you end up deciding on? You should record it :D | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | widox: Blazeix jrwren ^ | 12:56 |
| brousch | shakes808: PyOhio records and posts all videos | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | shakes808: all the talks will be recorded and put on the site, pretty quick to | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | they tend to get them up in 24-48hrs | 12:56 |
| brousch | I don't know what to think about that pedal. It is so crazy, but so awesome | 12:57 |
| rick_h_ | yea, funny | 12:58 |
| brousch | What other things can we take from sewing machines? | 12:58 |
| brousch | So my problem is I have RLS and my legs bounce all day long. The pedal would not work for me | 12:59 |
| brousch | Hah, awesome. I got a free parking pass for PyOhio from WingWare | 13:02 |
| rick_h_ | awesome! | 13:02 |
| brousch | Everything's coming up brousch today! | 13:03 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Oh FFS (was re: Vim Clutch) | 13:32 |
| snap-l | Even better: using the CC share alike as your license for software. | 13:33 |
| snap-l | Ah Oracle, and your fucking extension packs for Virtualbox | 13:35 |
| snap-l | it's like a EULA hug every month | 13:36 |
| brousch | Those are annoying | 13:36 |
| brousch | snap-l: After listening to my friend's podcast, I would like to change my vote from "Maybe" to "Yes" on if I would listen to a classical music podcast. http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OpenLicensedMusic/~3/Nj5PbU9cAGo/episode-3-cartoon-music.html | 13:38 |
| snap-l | brousch: Why the sudden change of heart? :) | 13:41 |
| brousch | That is a classical music episode, and I enjoyed it | 13:42 |
| snap-l | Ah, OK. :) | 13:42 |
| brousch | D00d, where's tjagoda? http://pc-gaming.dcemu.co.uk/rim-discounting-its-16gb-playbook-down-to-169-from-499-468442.html | 14:36 |
| snap-l | If you ever want to get a Python list flowing again, just start talking about distutils. | 14:37 |
| snap-l | sheesh | 14:37 |
| jrwren | lol @ vim-clutch | 15:19 |
| snap-l | Bwahahaha... one of the samples on this song by Intermix: "SIt your $5 ass down before I make change" | 15:21 |
| jrwren | what intermix song? I thought I had all their albums. | 15:32 |
| snap-l | I think it's Funky Hell on Phase Two | 15:44 |
| snap-l | er, sorry, Phaze Two | 15:44 |
| snap-l | I only have that one | 15:45 |
| snap-l | Sheesh, keeping up with Bill Leeb is almost a full-time job. ;) | 15:48 |
| brousch | I think I'm going to print out rick_h_'s bookie Makefile and tape it to my monitor for reference | 16:08 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: clean it up while you're at it please | 16:16 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: It'd be like correcting the spelling mistakes of the bible. | 16:55 |
| snap-l | or correcting the perspective of the Mona Lisa | 16:55 |
| snap-l | unthinkable. | 16:55 |
| rick_h_ | I'm letting my boy down http://goo.gl/EppiF | 17:08 |
| brousch | snap-l: More like correcting Shakespeare's grammar | 17:20 |
| jrwren | now i have intermix in my head | 17:24 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Letting him down because you gave him a GUI right away? | 17:26 |
| rick_h_ | because I've not taught him bash and put him behind a computer at all and he's coming up on 3 | 17:27 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: is that the john goerzen post? | 17:27 |
| rick_h_ | shoot, he just started getting to watch a movie about 2mo ago | 17:27 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: not sure, some guy with this 3yr old loading up startx/xmonad/tuxpaint | 17:28 |
| greg-g | ah, yeah, that post is great | 17:28 |
| greg-g | that's the guy who wrote offlineimap | 17:28 |
| rick_h_ | ah, nice | 17:28 |
| greg-g | yeah, good guy | 17:29 |
| brousch | rick_h_: OMG, you have already stunted his development! | 17:32 |
| brousch | Mine was using Gnome as soon as he could sit up. Now he uses ChromeOS | 17:32 |
| * rick_h_ hangs head in shame | 17:33 | |
| jrwren | good luck. | 17:33 |
| brousch | But you need to have computers that you don't mind being destroyed, because it will happen | 17:33 |
| jrwren | my 5yo barely has mouse skills. | 17:33 |
| jrwren | i'm hoping she gets better when she can read so I can show her some BASIC | 17:33 |
| brousch | George is 4 and is quite good on the touchpad | 17:33 |
| greg-g | yeah, I'm keeping my old ps/2 keyboard just for Rowan | 17:34 |
| brousch | He learns to spell the words most important to him so he can type them in youtube "thomas" "muppets" "star wars" | 17:34 |
| rick_h_ | "son, this is a unicomp...it's built like a tank. Yes, that's a challenge..." | 17:34 |
| greg-g | this x200s will probaby be his first comp :) | 17:34 |
| brousch | also his password, which is a mixture of letters and numbers | 17:35 |
| greg-g | is it l33t sp3@k? | 17:35 |
| brousch | Once he was able to do things on his own computer (Youtube, Nick jr, PBS Kids) he stopped climbing on my wife and I when we were on our computers | 17:36 |
| greg-g | "Finally! ME TIME! Only took 4 years" | 17:36 |
| brousch | Nah, 2.5 | 17:37 |
| brousch | That's why you start them early ;) | 17:37 |
| greg-g | whew | 17:37 |
| greg-g | only 2 more years to go | 17:37 |
| brousch | Assuming you don't have another one in the meantime | 17:38 |
| greg-g | my alone time now is post 8:30 and that doesn't last long since I'm definitely waking up before 6am | 17:38 |
| greg-g | right | 17:38 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: yea, kid bedtime ftw! | 17:38 |
| brousch | I got some tea and a tea steeping thingy at Teavana. Some of this tea tastes like coolaid | 17:42 |
| brousch | Currently drinking iced http://www.teavana.com/the-teas/rooibos-teas/p/opus-rouge-rooibos-tea | 17:43 |
| snap-l | brousch: We warned you. | 17:46 |
| brousch | It's good! | 17:47 |
| greg-g | Kool-aid tea? not for me | 17:50 |
| brousch | More like a fruit drink | 17:51 |
| brousch | With a little sour | 17:51 |
| brousch | Ah, geez, look at this monstrosity http://www.giving.umich.edu/news/ezine/LBP_Spring2012/ | 17:58 |
| brousch | Are the Twitters broke? | 18:03 |
| rick_h_ | yea, been breaking today | 18:09 |
| rick_h_ | working here for me atm though | 18:09 |
| jrwren | oh, i thought it was my network going wonkie | 18:12 |
| rick_h_ | no, it's on HN and such | 18:12 |
| brousch | I get all my news through Twitter | 18:12 |
| brousch | Ah geez. Django changed the project layout in 1.4. Now stuff has shifted around | 18:14 |
| jrwren | yup | 18:21 |
| jrwren | much nicer now | 18:21 |
| jrwren | because brousch loves responsive design: http://aids.gov | 18:41 |
| brousch | You are giving me AIDS because I like responsive design? | 18:42 |
| jrwren | nope | 18:42 |
| jrwren | its a great example | 18:42 |
| * greg-g hangs head | 18:42 | |
| brousch | pretty nice | 18:42 |
| _stink_ | greg-g++ | 18:52 |
| jrwren | you guys have aids? | 18:55 |
| jrwren | I didn't know. | 18:55 |
| brousch | Is it normal to end up with leaves and such in my tea after I pour it? | 18:56 |
| jrwren | hrm... lets see. tea in cup, water of tea, poor water over tea, yup, there will be tea leaves since you put 'em tehre. | 18:57 |
| brousch | seems excessive | 18:59 |
| brousch | maybe i'll pull the basket out first | 18:59 |
| jrwren | basket? | 18:59 |
| jrwren | oh you are using an infuser? | 18:59 |
| brousch | I guess. It's a little metal mesh basket that keeps the leaves out of the tea, but when I pour some of the leaves go out too | 19:00 |
| brousch | So if I remove the infuser first it should keep the leaves out | 19:00 |
| jrwren | i don't use those, so I don't know :) | 19:01 |
| brousch | Ah, much better. Only 1 leaf | 19:01 |
| brousch | And the container has a little holder for the basket when it's out of the water, so I guess this is the right way | 19:02 |
| jrwren | damn, you are making me want tea | 19:02 |
| brousch | This flavor seems to have no actual tea in it | 19:04 |
| brousch | http://www.teavana.com/the-teas/herbal-teas/p/pineapple-kona-pop-herbal-tea | 19:05 |
| brousch | They had some freakish teas that come in a little ball, then in the the water they open into what looks like a whole plant and flower http://www.teavana.com/tea-products/tea-cups-mugs/travel-tea-cups/p/teavana-tea-rhapsody-glass-tea-tumbler?cm_sp=Recos-_-ProductPage-_-1&cm_vc=pdpz1 | 19:07 |
| snap-l | MB Temperature: +61.0°C (high = +45.0°C, crit = +95.0°C) | 19:10 |
| snap-l | Wondering if I should just shut it down | 19:10 |
| rick_h_ | ok, how rude am I? | 19:29 |
| greg-g | quite | 19:30 |
| rick_h_ | ok, then I'm going to do this | 19:30 |
| greg-g | :) | 19:30 |
| rick_h_ | https://github.com/buriy/python-readability/issues/23#issuecomment-6489123 | 19:31 |
| rick_h_ | as long as I'm keeping in character | 19:31 |
| rick_h_ | and booya! for my port working where the original fails! :) | 19:31 |
| brousch | I cannot upvote your comment. Lame. | 19:33 |
| rick_h_ | and sweet to have the webui to just check how I do rendering that page :) | 19:34 |
| rick_h_ | lmao https://plus.google.com/photos/104234302931579992973/albums/5756568210679822001/5756568210416502146 | 21:33 |
| greg-g | rick_h_++ | 21:37 |
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