[00:38] nullspace: doh, dude! [00:48] rick_h_: sorry about this [00:48] she is having some stomach issues and doesn't want to be left alone [00:50] we can wait a week or work something out tomorrow as I've got a half day tomorrow [00:51] yea, can't tomorrow. I can bring next week [01:46] http://miek.nl/files/go/ [01:46] Blazeix: ^^ [01:48] thanks [03:53] http://www.metalinjection.net/around-the-interwebs/a-vehicle-for-the-drummer-on-the-go [11:22] the last paragraph ftw http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-June/120512.html [11:26] Um... [11:27] as a former system admin who liked the consistency of his system-level packages, I take issue with that. ;) [11:27] :) [11:30] Virtualenv and the package management make it very easy to get a level of consistency, but if one machine barfs on the "foour or five" commands, and leaves it in an inconsistent state, I want to a system that can get it back up to speed quickly [11:31] I don't see how it does anything to the system. a simple rm -rf gets things cleaned up [11:31] I can do a quick rpm command to check the integrity of the package [11:31] and do a multi-ssh to see what versions of packages are on the system [11:31] with RPM or deb [11:32] for p in packagedir; cat `bin/pip freeze` [11:32] I can also put additional scripts into the rpm or deb packages to do post-install cleanup [11:32] rick_h_: That assumes that pip didn't bomb halfway through [11:33] or that one of the files didn't get corrupted on dis [11:33] k [11:33] Developers have a hard time realizing that what their sysadmins do is more like a MASH unit [11:34] triage quickly, determine what can be salvaged, and work from there [11:35] And God help him if one of his 4 or 5 commands is "curl gihub.com/..." [11:35] no no no, it's pip -e git@github.... [11:35] fuck me [11:35] ;) [11:36] Get Chris back on the show. There's a paddling waiting for him [11:36] bookie used to do that to carry around a version of the parser stuff from git [11:37] but yes, virtualenv makes it very seductive to just go rm -rf virtualenvdir and reinstall [11:37] and if I was dealing with a package-level corruption, I'd probably do that first [11:37] possibly a mv to see what happened [11:37] triage :) [11:37] make clean && make [11:38] there's your triage [11:38] fail again...punt to the dev "it's broken!" [11:38] rick_h_: There is no punting to the dev at 3am. ;) [11:38] make downtime [11:38] that's `make downtime` [11:39] God, the fucking squirrels are randy. [11:39] swaps out for a single served file that says "Sorry, we're currently unavailable...our dev broke crap" [11:44] Good morning [11:45] dammit, going to go ape on this stupid library [11:45] oh, and morning shakes808 [11:46] rick_h_; looks like the morning is going well for you ;) .... I am going to guess that "stupid library" is referencing Django? [11:47] no, pep381client [11:47] it's doing stupid crap that I want to clean up but when I open the library it's even more stupid than I thought [11:48] and...I'm going to have to install java. son of a ... (separate work item for the day) [12:00] lol. But Java is good. It contains caffine. You can get it all sorts of ways. I prefer mine in a Frap! :D ;) [12:32] rick_h_: Java? You finally moving the Eclipse like real coders? [12:32] no, but the yui3 gallery build system uses ant [12:33] so if I want to get my code into the yui3 gallery...an ant'ing we will go [12:33] I'm having a good OSS day. Adding code to yui3 gallery for all to share/love. [12:33] pep8/ing adding code to the pep381client [12:33] You're a good man [12:34] I got an email this morning. My PyOhio talk was accepted [12:34] heh, we'll see how happy he is to get "PEP8 all the things!" as a MP comment [12:51] rick_h_: I assume you also got an email [12:55] brousch: yea, got the email [12:55] you get in? [12:55] I did [12:55] awesome [12:55] brousch: congrats ;) [12:56] Yeah, well yesterday I thoguht I was out and free. now the weight is back! [12:56] https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch so so awesome [12:56] which one did you end up deciding on? You should record it :D [12:56] widox: Blazeix jrwren ^ [12:56] shakes808: PyOhio records and posts all videos [12:56] shakes808: all the talks will be recorded and put on the site, pretty quick to [12:56] they tend to get them up in 24-48hrs [12:57] I don't know what to think about that pedal. It is so crazy, but so awesome [12:58] yea, funny [12:58] What other things can we take from sewing machines? [12:59] So my problem is I have RLS and my legs bounce all day long. The pedal would not work for me [13:02] Hah, awesome. I got a free parking pass for PyOhio from WingWare [13:02] awesome! [13:03] Everything's coming up brousch today! [13:32] rick_h_: Oh FFS (was re: Vim Clutch) [13:33] Even better: using the CC share alike as your license for software. [13:35] Ah Oracle, and your fucking extension packs for Virtualbox [13:36] it's like a EULA hug every month [13:36] Those are annoying [13:38] snap-l: After listening to my friend's podcast, I would like to change my vote from "Maybe" to "Yes" on if I would listen to a classical music podcast. http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OpenLicensedMusic/~3/Nj5PbU9cAGo/episode-3-cartoon-music.html [13:41] brousch: Why the sudden change of heart? :) [13:42] That is a classical music episode, and I enjoyed it [13:42] Ah, OK. :) [14:36] D00d, where's tjagoda? http://pc-gaming.dcemu.co.uk/rim-discounting-its-16gb-playbook-down-to-169-from-499-468442.html [14:37] If you ever want to get a Python list flowing again, just start talking about distutils. [14:37] sheesh [15:19] lol @ vim-clutch [15:21] Bwahahaha... one of the samples on this song by Intermix: "SIt your $5 ass down before I make change" [15:32] what intermix song? I thought I had all their albums. [15:44] I think it's Funky Hell on Phase Two [15:44] er, sorry, Phaze Two [15:45] I only have that one [15:48] Sheesh, keeping up with Bill Leeb is almost a full-time job. ;) [16:08] I think I'm going to print out rick_h_'s bookie Makefile and tape it to my monitor for reference [16:16] brousch: clean it up while you're at it please [16:55] rick_h_: It'd be like correcting the spelling mistakes of the bible. [16:55] or correcting the perspective of the Mona Lisa [16:55] unthinkable. [17:08] I'm letting my boy down http://goo.gl/EppiF [17:20] snap-l: More like correcting Shakespeare's grammar [17:24] now i have intermix in my head [17:26] rick_h_: Letting him down because you gave him a GUI right away? [17:27] because I've not taught him bash and put him behind a computer at all and he's coming up on 3 [17:27] rick_h_: is that the john goerzen post? [17:27] shoot, he just started getting to watch a movie about 2mo ago [17:28] greg-g: not sure, some guy with this 3yr old loading up startx/xmonad/tuxpaint [17:28] ah, yeah, that post is great [17:28] that's the guy who wrote offlineimap [17:28] ah, nice [17:29] yeah, good guy [17:32] rick_h_: OMG, you have already stunted his development! [17:32] Mine was using Gnome as soon as he could sit up. Now he uses ChromeOS [17:33] * rick_h_ hangs head in shame [17:33] good luck. [17:33] But you need to have computers that you don't mind being destroyed, because it will happen [17:33] my 5yo barely has mouse skills. [17:33] i'm hoping she gets better when she can read so I can show her some BASIC [17:33] George is 4 and is quite good on the touchpad [17:34] yeah, I'm keeping my old ps/2 keyboard just for Rowan [17:34] He learns to spell the words most important to him so he can type them in youtube "thomas" "muppets" "star wars" [17:34] "son, this is a unicomp...it's built like a tank. Yes, that's a challenge..." [17:34] this x200s will probaby be his first comp :) [17:35] also his password, which is a mixture of letters and numbers [17:35] is it l33t sp3@k? [17:36] Once he was able to do things on his own computer (Youtube, Nick jr, PBS Kids) he stopped climbing on my wife and I when we were on our computers [17:36] "Finally! ME TIME! Only took 4 years" [17:37] Nah, 2.5 [17:37] That's why you start them early ;) [17:37] whew [17:37] only 2 more years to go [17:38] Assuming you don't have another one in the meantime [17:38] my alone time now is post 8:30 and that doesn't last long since I'm definitely waking up before 6am [17:38] right [17:38] greg-g: yea, kid bedtime ftw! [17:42] I got some tea and a tea steeping thingy at Teavana. Some of this tea tastes like coolaid [17:43] Currently drinking iced http://www.teavana.com/the-teas/rooibos-teas/p/opus-rouge-rooibos-tea [17:46] brousch: We warned you. [17:47] It's good! [17:50] Kool-aid tea? not for me [17:51] More like a fruit drink [17:51] With a little sour [17:58] Ah, geez, look at this monstrosity http://www.giving.umich.edu/news/ezine/LBP_Spring2012/ [18:03] Are the Twitters broke? [18:09] yea, been breaking today [18:09] working here for me atm though [18:12] oh, i thought it was my network going wonkie [18:12] no, it's on HN and such [18:12] I get all my news through Twitter [18:14] Ah geez. Django changed the project layout in 1.4. Now stuff has shifted around [18:21] yup [18:21] much nicer now [18:41] because brousch loves responsive design: http://aids.gov [18:42] You are giving me AIDS because I like responsive design? [18:42] nope [18:42] its a great example [18:42] * greg-g hangs head [18:42] pretty nice [18:52] <_stink_> greg-g++ [18:55] you guys have aids? [18:55] I didn't know. [18:56] Is it normal to end up with leaves and such in my tea after I pour it? [18:57] hrm... lets see. tea in cup, water of tea, poor water over tea, yup, there will be tea leaves since you put 'em tehre. [18:59] seems excessive [18:59] maybe i'll pull the basket out first [18:59] basket? [18:59] oh you are using an infuser? [19:00] I guess. It's a little metal mesh basket that keeps the leaves out of the tea, but when I pour some of the leaves go out too [19:00] So if I remove the infuser first it should keep the leaves out [19:01] i don't use those, so I don't know :) [19:01] Ah, much better. Only 1 leaf [19:02] And the container has a little holder for the basket when it's out of the water, so I guess this is the right way [19:02] damn, you are making me want tea [19:04] This flavor seems to have no actual tea in it [19:05] http://www.teavana.com/the-teas/herbal-teas/p/pineapple-kona-pop-herbal-tea [19:07] They had some freakish teas that come in a little ball, then in the the water they open into what looks like a whole plant and flower http://www.teavana.com/tea-products/tea-cups-mugs/travel-tea-cups/p/teavana-tea-rhapsody-glass-tea-tumbler?cm_sp=Recos-_-ProductPage-_-1&cm_vc=pdpz1 [19:10] MB Temperature: +61.0°C (high = +45.0°C, crit = +95.0°C) [19:10] Wondering if I should just shut it down [19:29] ok, how rude am I? [19:30] quite [19:30] ok, then I'm going to do this [19:30] :) [19:31] https://github.com/buriy/python-readability/issues/23#issuecomment-6489123 [19:31] as long as I'm keeping in character [19:31] and booya! for my port working where the original fails! :) [19:33] I cannot upvote your comment. Lame. [19:34] and sweet to have the webui to just check how I do rendering that page :) [21:33] lmao https://plus.google.com/photos/104234302931579992973/albums/5756568210679822001/5756568210416502146 [21:37] rick_h_++