[01:01] <anthony> question, which is more stable xubuntu or lubuntu?
[01:01] <anthony> i currently have xubuntu installed
[01:02] <Unit193> You know you are asking a channel that favors Xubuntu, right?
[01:02] <anthony> yes, of course
[01:02] <Unit193> And generally they both use the same core.
[01:02] <anthony> but, there are still some honest people
[01:03] <anthony> well, here is the deal, I am not running it on old hardware, just hate the bloated interface of the mainstream fronts like kde
[01:03] <anthony> just want something that works, I like xubuntu and have been using it for years now
[01:03] <anthony> but just wondered about lubuntu
[01:04] <anthony> not trying to offend anyone by the way
[01:06] <Unit193> And I wasn't ignoring, had to look away. :(
[01:07] <David-A> anthony: I briefly tried the LXDE some time ago. It was less configurable, or required more to configure, so I stayed with XFCE.
[01:07] <David-A> May be better now, don't know
[01:08] <Unit193> He's gone.
[01:08] <David-A> right...
[01:08] <David-A> Almost everyday I answer someone who is gone...
[01:09] <Unit193> You are right in that it's easier if you can handle an XML file, but this isn't support topic. :P
[02:07] <asterismo> hi people
[02:07] <asterismo> i need help with something
[02:07] <asterismo> my keyboard Fn + Volumen Up does not work
[02:08] <asterismo> it raises up the volume bar, but that is not the same volume of the sound mixer
[02:23] <asterismo> hi, can anyone help me?
[02:23] <asterismo> Fn + VolumeUp keyboard are not working
[02:23] <asterismo> notification daemon shows up and down and mute.... but the volume does not change or mute
[02:23] <asterismo> any ideas?
[02:27] <asterismo> keyboard FN keys are affecting the device "Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400 ... etc etc]" device
[02:27] <asterismo> not alsamixer
[02:27] <asterismo> any idea how to change this?
[02:27] <asterismo> please
[02:38] <asterismo> hi there
[02:38] <asterismo> testing one two
[02:38] <asterismo> three
[02:38] <asterismo> ;)
[02:38] <Pici> asterismo: have you tried asking in #ubuntu?
[02:39] <asterismo> not now, but they usually ask me to ask here
[02:39] <asterismo> ;)
[02:39] <asterismo> 'll try anyway
[02:47] <asterismo> Pici, nobody answers me in #ubuntu
[02:48] <slowz> asterismo, xfce4-volumed - volume keys daemon
[02:48] <Pici> asterismo: you *just* joined, you didn't ask anything before.
[02:48] <slowz> search for that package. maybe that will help you
[02:54] <asterismo> Pici, i was in #ubuntu-beginners, sorry
[02:54] <asterismo> now i asked in #ubuntu
[02:55] <asterismo> My problem is that Fn+VolUp key shown as XF86AudioLowerVolume in keyboard shortcuts
[02:56] <asterismo> commands the Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon 5400.... ] pulseaudio mixer
[02:56] <asterismo> not alsamixer
[03:01] <asterismo> slowz, i have that package
[03:01] <asterismo> but what do i have pulseaudio?
[03:01] <asterismo> i have xubuntu
[03:05] <slowz> yes
[03:06] <slowz> if its a map prob. xmodmap is the package to edit your key bindings
[03:06] <slowz> might double check that app name
[03:29] <asterismo> slowz, how xmodmap works?
[05:29] <metals> hi
[05:30] <metals> is there any program like Proxifier for Xubuntu?
[05:35] <slowz> mecklen, what is proxifier?
[05:35] <metals> a program which makes all your connections in Windows go through proxies
[05:36] <metals> good for battling the censorship
[05:36] <slowz> you can use a ssh tunnel
[05:36] <slowz> other than that i dont know much about that kinda of thing
[05:37] <metals> accepts username and password?
[05:37] <slowz> no you would "ssh -D 8080 host.com" and set the proxy local to "localhost:8080"
[05:38] <metals> I mean I have bought this proxy and I want to use it on Xubuntu
[05:38] <metals> I know Mac has the program
[05:38] <slowz> ohh sorry i dont know anything about that. im sure there is something. maybe even networkmanager supports it
[05:40] <metals> that's OK, brother
[05:40] <metals> :)
[05:40] <metals> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_talkplugin_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[05:41] <metals> and here, I can't update my Xubuntu
[05:42] <genii-around> remove the file from /var/lib/apt/lists and try again.
[05:42] <metals> from where?
[05:43] <genii-around> eg: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_talkplugin_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages   && sudo apt-get update
[05:43] <asterismo> can anyone take a look at this?
[05:43] <asterismo> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=73496
[05:44] <asterismo> xfce4-volumed is not compatible with pulseaudio, then not compatible with banshee or totem
[05:44] <asterismo> and i cannot change volume from keyboard using Fn keys
[05:44] <asterismo> i found this but it do not work
[05:44] <asterismo> but the idea is ok
[05:44] <asterismo> does anybody knows how to fix this?
[05:46] <slowz> asterismo, did it create the .pulse config?
[05:47] <asterismo> there is a .pulse folder
[05:47] <asterismo> with somethings in there
[05:47] <asterismo> but the script do not work for me
[05:47] <asterismo> xubuntu 12.04
[05:48] <asterismo> the command used in the script is pactl set-sink-mute 0 0
[05:48] <asterismo> or pactl set-sink-mute 0 1
[05:48] <asterismo> but in terminal shows nothing
[05:49] <slowz> im sure its with the keymaps
[05:49] <slowz> you have those setup as stated in the link?
[05:49] <asterismo> yes
[05:49] <asterismo> i'm running the script from terminal even
[05:50] <asterismo> but nothing
[05:50] <asterismo> brb
[05:51] <slowz> sometimes copy and paste dont work from the web. look in those files make sure it created them correct.
[05:53] <slowz> you know the more i look at that script the more i dont know what its doing lol
[06:49] <domas_> hi
[06:50] <domas_> is it possible to install xubuntu from a usb stick instead of burning the image to a cd/dvd?
[06:50] <hobgoblin> !unetbootin | domas_
[06:51] <hobgoblin> works fine domas_ :)
[06:51] <hobgoblin> at least it does if the machine you want to install to see's it as a boot medium
[07:08] <xubuntu528> Hi
[07:11] <Unit193> !hi
[07:15] <xubuntu528> Thx. Anybody experiences with Nvidia drivers?
[07:15] <Unit193> Could ask your question, would make it easier.
[07:15] <Unit193> Also, use "Additional Drivers" to get the new driver.
[07:15] <domas_> thanks, hobgoblin!
[07:15] <xubuntu528> Sure, I got problems installing Nvidia from official Ubuntu application-downloader
[07:17] <xubuntu528> It cannot resolve some dependencies. excuse me. one moment. I look for the message.
[07:18] <xubuntu528> 1) With application-downloader i mean "Software Center"
[07:19] <xubuntu528> 2) the package i try to install is "Nvidia binary X.Org Driver"
[07:19] <xubuntu528> 3) the message contains: it cannot install because the package would depend on xorg.video-abi-10 but it is not going to be installed
[07:20] <xubuntu528> 4) and too the package would depend on xserver-xorg-core, but the version is too new.
[07:20] <xubuntu528> Anything I can work around this problem?
[07:21] <astraljava> xubuntu528: What release are you using? Have you enabled some other repositories? This doesn't sound like a standard configuration.
[07:21] <xubuntu528> the newest.
[07:22] <xubuntu528> oh.wait.
[07:22] <astraljava> xubuntu528: 'The newest' stable? Or are you running the devel release?
[07:22] <xubuntu528> sorry. You don't mean the the version but the location? I have to look.
[07:23] <hobgoblin> xubuntu528: 12.04 or some other release of xubuntu
[07:24] <astraljava> xubuntu528: Ok, open a terminal, and c&p the output of `lsb_release -d`
[07:25] <xubuntu528> I looked in the package management app. http://extreas.ubuntu.com/ubuntu. Initial system download was a mirror in germany.
[07:26] <xubuntu528> lsb_release -d says: Description: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[07:27] <astraljava> xubuntu528: Alright. Could you install a tool called 'pastebinit', and then run the command `cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit`, and c&p the link here, please?
[07:29] <xubuntu528> OK. I'll do so. It'll take a while. cause i have to do something important for 5 min. before. sorry for that.
[07:29] <xubuntu528> many thx till now.!
[07:37] <Sysi> xubuntu528: if you didn't do it before, check for updates and install them and maybe reboot (sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade)
[07:39] <Sysi> if your mirror's cache was updated just when you updated package lists you get problems
[07:43] <xubuntu528> im back. i did the update. and restarted.
[07:43] <xubuntu528> but only by update manager
[07:51] <xubuntu528> @astraljava: Well. `cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit` says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1052245/
[07:53] <xubuntu528> well i see
[07:55] <xubuntu528> but i cannot interpret.
[07:58] <astraljava> xubuntu528: Alright, let me check on mine, one moment.
[07:59] <astraljava> xubuntu528: Which of the three did you attempt to install? I see 'version 173', 'version 96' and 'current'.
[08:01] <Unit193> astraljava: He's not using jockey from what I can tell.
[08:02] <astraljava> Yes, that is obvious.
[08:02] <astraljava> But I'm rather interested in what package is attempting to bring in a newer version of xserver, and why.
[08:09] <xubuntu528> i guess i tried both. both. did not work. but i tried 96 several times
[08:12] <xubuntu528> the complete message: Package dependencies cannot be resolved. -- nvidia-96: Depends: x11-common(>= 1:7.0.0) but 1:7.6+12 is to be installed. -- Depends: xorg-video-abi-10 but is not going to be installed -- depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.10.0-0ubuntu1~) but 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10.2 is to be installed
[08:14] <astraljava> xubuntu528: Ok, so there's nothing surprising there. From the looks of it, this issue seems to be a problem with the mirror. I'd suggest switching to another, or possibly the official archive, then doing update and upgrade. That sounds like some packages are not available for you on the de. mirror.
[08:17] <metals> people
[08:17] <metals> my volume controller next to my clock has gone! How can I bring it back?
[08:18] <xubuntu528> @astraljava: Sounds great. Thanks a lot. I'll try.
[08:30] <metals> my volume controller next to my clock has gone! How can I bring it back?
[08:38] <astraljava> metals: Sounds like you lost the indicator plugin. Right-click on panel, go to Panel > Add New Items...
[08:39] <metals> doesn't show that there, astraljava
[08:39] <metals> no volume
[08:40] <astraljava> metals: No, it doesn't. From the list, choose Indicator Plugin (that's why I referred to it in the first place), and hit Add button.
[08:41] <metals> yep
[08:41] <metals> thanks, astraljava
[08:41] <astraljava> No probs, happy to help. :)
[08:41] <metals> :)
[08:41] <metals> and anything about setting SSOCKS proxies?
[08:43] <astraljava> metals: Does this article help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/24116/what-is-the-all-proxy-environment-variable-used-for
[08:43] <astraljava> It mentions GNOME there, but it might work elsewhere, too.
[08:44] <astraljava> I don't know, I haven't used either (SOCKS proxy nor all_proxy env variable)
[08:45] <metals> I don't understand that
[08:45] <metals> :D
[08:45] <metals> see, I have a user name and a password, along with a IP and port
[08:52] <astraljava> usually you put the credentials before the proxy server address, after the protocol (f.e. socks://user:passwd@proxy_address:port/)
[08:52] <metals> credintial are username and password?
[08:56] <astraljava> Yes, as I demonstrated in the example. :)
[08:56] <metals> :D
[08:56] <metals> I am a rookie
[08:57] <astraljava> No worries, I'm just trying to point out things for future reference. :)
[08:57] <metals> good
[08:57] <metals> :)
[08:57] <metals> I already have Tor
[09:01] <astraljava> metals: I don't know anything about that, there seems to be a page about it on help.u.c but seems a bit outdated.
[09:02] <metals> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCKS
[09:02] <astraljava> Err... I was referring to Tor.
[09:03] <metals> no
[09:03] <metals> Tor works well
[09:03] <metals> it works with my FF
[09:03] <metals> but slow
[09:03] <metals> so slow like an ant
[09:03] <metals> and my aunt :D
[09:03] <metals> but SOCKS is fast
[09:03] <astraljava> I hear that's a drawback, yes.
[09:03] <metals> worked with that on Windows and Mac
[09:04] <metals> must be a way to make it on Linux as well
[09:05] <metals> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65828/how-can-i-configure-proxy-authentication
[09:05] <metals> look at the photo
[09:06] <Marzata> is there some desktop wallpaper bug in 12.04?
[09:06] <Marzata> set one, later is not there
[09:07] <metals> I guess ya put that wallpaper from some other disk
[09:07] <metals> right?
[09:07] <Marzata> wrong
[09:08] <metals> copy the wallpaper ya want on the desktop and then set the wallpaper
[09:08] <metals> see if it works
[09:08] <Marzata> it is in another directory
[09:08] <Marzata> no other disks are connected
[09:08] <Marzata> and stuff
[09:08] <metals> put it on desktop
[09:08] <metals> the photo ya want
[09:08] <metals> then set it as wallpaper
[09:08] <Marzata> actually it can't change
[09:09] <metals> right click on the photo and click on set as wallpaper
[09:10] <Marzata> this works
[09:10] <metals> good
[09:10] <Marzata> but when I right click on the Desktop
[09:10] <metals> ...
[09:10] <Marzata> and then preferences ... there I can not change it
[09:11] <metals> don't know
[09:11] <Marzata> so called desktop settings
[09:18] <astraljava> Marzata: Yeah, I even have to monitors, and changing it works individually.  But both work, nonetheless.
[09:18] <Marzata> well, strange, coz it worked in 11.10
[09:40] <xubuntu097> my wifi starts to go relly slow.. dont remember how to get around this,  something whidt the ip6 ?????
[10:55] <toshiba> hi...is good this distro for toshiba satellite 2450-101 ?
[10:57] <toshiba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1052457/
[10:57] <toshiba> help
[11:02] <hobgoblin> 256Mb of RAM - I'd probably try lubuntu tbh - though it should work with xubuntu
[11:02] <toshiba> asterismo:  can help me?
[11:05] <toshiba> hobgoblin:  oh thanks !!
[11:06] <toshiba> hobgoblin:  i have take the alternate :D
[11:06] <toshiba> 64 mb
[11:06] <toshiba> ram
[11:07] <hobgoblin> k - it'll certainly help with the install :)
[11:08] <toshiba> hobgoblin: unfortunately I have to unplug the hard disk and put it in a notebook with no disk to install
[11:08] <toshiba> the dvd rom player doesn't work
[11:09] <hobgoblin> :( good luck then :)
[11:10] <Myrtti> toshiba: no USB?
[11:10] <toshiba> hobgoblin: thanks for the help ... you are in this afternoon if I need it?
[11:11] <toshiba> Myrtti:  no boot from usb
[11:11] <toshiba> only floppy disk
[11:11] <toshiba> and dvdrom i think
[11:11] <hobgoblin> toshiba: in and out
[11:11] <toshiba> hobgoblin:  ok
[11:12] <hobgoblin> but there are lots of people in and about :)
[11:12] <toshiba> :-D cool!
[11:14] <toshiba> i hope that this distro will work because i put yesterday ubuntu 9.04 and is slow
[11:15] <hobgoblin> well there's only one way to find out - but I'd suspect it's not going to be particularly snappy
[11:23] <toshiba> i have try slitaz-3.0-xvesa but it was block on my asus f7kr-7s033c and not mount it on toshiba o try  :(
[11:40] <xubuntu480> i download xubuntu iso
[11:40] <xubuntu480> wat to do now
[11:40] <xubuntu480> help plss
[11:41] <baizon> xubuntu480: burn it or make a bootable usb drive
[11:41] <xubuntu480> i dnt have a cd drive
[11:42] <xubuntu480> and usb boot is not workin can
[11:42] <xubuntu480> i install it to my hard drive
[11:42] <xubuntu480> like ubuntu
[11:42] <baizon> xubuntu480: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[11:42] <baizon> hmm
[11:43] <baizon> xubuntu480: your using windows right now?
[11:43] <xubuntu480> win xp home edition
[11:43] <baizon> xubuntu480: then i recommend this -> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-with-windows
[11:44] <xubuntu480> but it is too large file
[11:45] <xubuntu480> cant i install small linux distro to my pc over win
[11:46] <baizon> xubuntu480: ?
[11:46] <baizon> how big is your hard drive?
[11:46] <xubuntu480> 80 gb
[11:46] <xubuntu480> with four partions
[11:47] <baizon> so shrink your partition
[11:47] <baizon> run wubi
[11:47] <baizon> then when your in xubuntu use the wubi-move script to copy xubuntu to the new partition
[11:47] <baizon> then you can remove windows and make your partition bigger again
[11:48] <xubuntu480> okkk thnks dude u were real help
[11:48] <baizon> but create it as an lvm, then you can easy shrink and extend your partitions
[11:48] <baizon> no problem :)
[11:49] <xubuntu480> thnks wats ur name by the way
[11:49] <xubuntu480> m amit contact me on amitsaini1901@gmail.com i wanna thnk u
[11:49] <xubuntu480> bie
[13:07] <thedark> can anyone help me get S-Video out working on 12.04?
[13:17] <josy1982> mil mil
[14:35] <josy1982> mul mul
[15:00] <josy1982> :(
[17:50] <toshiba> hobgoblin:  i've installed xubuntu alternate
[17:50] <hobgoblin> nice one toshiba - is it running ok?
[18:32] <asterismo> hi people
[18:32] <asterismo> i still need help with my Fn volume keys
[18:32] <asterismo> how can i control PulseAudio with XF86AudioLowerVolume and other keys...?
[18:33] <asterismo> is there a similar command like "amixer set master 5%+" but for pulseaudio???
[19:45] <xubuntu834> hello
[19:45] <Unit193> Bye?
[20:15] <roasted> hello!
[20:15] <roasted> anybody know offhand where Xubuntu stores keyboard shortcuts?
[20:18] <Unit193> Menu > Settings > Settings Manager > Keyboard OR Window Manager
[20:18] <xubuntu436> for roasted: http://askubuntu.com/questions/90513/how-do-i-change-my-keyboard-shortcuts-in-xubuntu
[20:19] <roasted> xubuntu436: thanks, but I mean where is the actual file stored which contains the changes?
[20:20] <xubuntu436> ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml
[20:20] <xubuntu436> ^ for roasted
[20:21] <roasted> thank you!
[20:22] <xubuntu436> remember: google is your friend :)
[20:24] <xubuntu436> has anyone else had display issues with dell mini's? I'm installing xubuntu on a friends laptop and the liveboot's gfx are janky as heck. I am thinking that it will sort itself out after the install, but I figured that i would ask.
[21:37] <xubuntu753> hi guys
[21:37] <xubuntu753> there's someone?
[21:37] <xubuntu753> i have a "problem" with 12.04
[21:38] <xubuntu753> someone?
[21:39] <knome> !ask
[21:39] <xubuntu753> thanks
[21:39] <xubuntu753> for answer
[21:39] <xubuntu753> so the "problem"
[21:40] <xubuntu753> is i don't know how to active compiz
[21:40] <xubuntu753> soorry if my english is bad
[21:40] <knome> compiz isn't really officially supported
[21:40] <knome> what's your native language?
[21:40] <xubuntu753> italian
[21:41] <xubuntu753> but is good if i write english (for practice xD)
[21:41] <xubuntu753> so is not supported?
[21:42] <knome> not "officially"
[21:42] <knome> so, people might be able to help you, but if it breaks, there isn't really any support
[21:42] <xubuntu753> but if i install emerald
[21:42] <xubuntu753> ok
[21:43] <xubuntu753> i can install but is my own risk?
[21:43] <knome> yes, that's pretty much it
[21:44] <knome> (well, there's no warranty on plain xubuntu either, but if possible, there is even less warranty for xubuntu+compiz :P)
[21:45] <xubuntu753> and? how can i install?
[21:45] <xubuntu753> sorry but i want to try
[21:45] <xubuntu508> how a windows user get started with ubuntu
[21:45] <xubuntu753> i have ubuntu in my c
[21:45] <knome> xubuntu753, i'm not the right one to answer that - haven't used compiz with xubuntu at all :)
[21:45] <xubuntu508> i see that need to download , but what version 32 bit or 64?
[21:45] <xubuntu753> pc*
[21:45] <xubuntu753> ok no problem
[21:46] <xubuntu753> thanks for all
[21:46] <knome> xubuntu508, if you are unsure of the architecture, download the 32-bit version, that will work
[21:46] <xubuntu753> :D
[21:46] <xubuntu508> thanks
[21:46] <knome> xubuntu753, no problem - have fun!
[21:46] <xubuntu508> and whats difference in desktop and alternate?
[21:46] <xubuntu753> the desktop version is a graphic installation
[21:46] <knome> xubuntu508, the desktop iso has graphical installer, and you can try it live from the cd
[21:46] <xubuntu753> and the alternate is a text installation
[21:46] <knome> it == xubuntu
[21:47] <xubuntu508> good , i dun have cd player
[21:47] <xubuntu753> one other quest
[21:47] <xubuntu753> i have downloaded the desktop versione
[21:47] <xubuntu508> so i will download install file. then install from there? and can i still be able to use windows if I am not able to learn to use ubuntu much?
[21:47] <xubuntu753> at boot
[21:48] <xubuntu753> you can choose
[21:48] <knome> xubuntu753, just a proposal, try /nick someothernick to make following the different discussions easier ;)
[21:48] <knome> xubuntu508, with the desktop cd, you can try xubuntu live from the cd, without installing
[21:48] <LukeOK> i changed
[21:48] <knome> xubuntu508, if you decide to install, just make sure you are not overwriting any partitions with windows installed, and you will be able to revert
[21:49] <knome> LukeOK, so, what's with the desktop iso? :)
[21:49] <xubuntu508> oh that might be a issue
[21:49] <xubuntu508> as I have only one partition on my hard drive
[21:49] <knome> xubuntu508, in that case, i suggest you to try from the cd first
[21:50] <xubuntu508> but dun have cd player in laptop that would function
[21:50] <xubuntu508> can i try a usb or external drive ?
[21:50] <knome> xubuntu508, most newer pc's have some kind of hidden "recovery" partition which you can use to recover windows
[21:50] <LukeOK> i have downloaded and burned into a cd, i started the installation and after 15 min. i have this error:"Error 5 I/O Input output error"
[21:50] <LukeOK> there is a problem with cd
[21:50] <knome> xubuntu508, yes, you can use a usb drive too, but i'm not sure about the details on how to create one from windows
[21:50] <LukeOK> and go on
[21:51] <LukeOK> i have burned it again at 4x
[21:51] <knome> LukeOK, sounds like that was a misburn. did you check the disc integrity?
[21:51] <LukeOK> i burned two cd
[21:51] <xubuntu508> knome,  that means I shud install it to my hard disk?
[21:51] <LukeOK> but still display me the error
[21:52] <knome> xubuntu508, no, you'll be able to try it even from the usb stick, once you get the installer in the stick
[21:52] <knome> LukeOK, are you sure your hardware is ok? :)
[21:52] <knome> LukeOK, also, have you checked the .iso integrity; is the checksum the same as in cdimage.ubuntu.com ?
[21:53] <LukeOK> it's all ok hardware and md5
[21:53] <xubuntu508> knome, so i copy downloaded iso to usb, then run installation from there?
[21:53] <LukeOK> i have resolved (sorry if is wrong) this error with text installation
[21:53] <LukeOK> but
[21:54] <knome> xubuntu508, no, just copying the iso isn't enough. you have to get the usb stick to be bootable.
[21:54] <xubuntu508> or would it easier if i actually made a partition on my drive
[21:54] <xubuntu508> so i will need to find a way to make usb bootable, that i can search online to make in windows
[21:54] <knome> xubuntu508, you still need to install from *somewhere*, so you'll probably have to go through getting the iso "burned" to the usb stick
[21:54] <LukeOK> http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm
[21:55] <LukeOK> maybe
[21:55] <xubuntu508> thanks Luke will check it out
[21:55] <knome> LukeOK, ok, so if you get through that error - what's the next thing then? :)
[21:56] <LukeOK> knome nothing it isn't really a problem
[21:56] <LukeOK> sorry
[21:56] <xubuntu508> so i make a bootable usb. boot from usb then install?
[21:56] <LukeOK> yep
[21:56] <knome> LukeOK, ok. :)
[21:56] <LukeOK> now you are in windows or ubuntu?
[21:57] <xubuntu508> me? i am in windows
[21:57] <knome> xubuntu508, again, please remember, if you overwrite the partition where windows is, you won't be able to recover to that exact state
[21:57] <xubuntu508> so in other words. before installing i should at least create a small partition on my hard drive
[21:57] <xubuntu508> and install ubuntu to that new partition
[21:58] <xubuntu508> so then I will be able to boot windows when needed and boot unbuntu
[21:58] <LukeOK> yes
[21:58] <xubuntu508> great.
[21:58] <knome> if the windows is on an ntfs partition (which is likely), i'm not sure how resizing that works though
[21:58] <xubuntu508> i will try to find out
[21:58] <LukeOK> you want install from usb beacuse you haven't the cd drvie?
[21:59] <xubuntu508> my cd drive not functional at all
[21:59] <xubuntu508> so its as i dun have it
[21:59] <LukeOK> xubuntu
[21:59] <LukeOK> 508
[21:59] <LukeOK> this is he program
[21:59] <LukeOK> Universal USB Installer
[21:59] <xubuntu508> xbuntu?
[21:59] <LukeOK> you can download the ubuntu versione that you want
[21:59] <LukeOK> google it
[22:00] <xubuntu508> xubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[22:00] <xubuntu508> this is the one I am downloading
[22:00] <xubuntu508> isn`t it right?
[22:00] <LukeOK> is right
[22:00] <xubuntu508> ok
[22:01] <LukeOK> when the download is finished
[22:01] <xubuntu508> k
[22:01] <LukeOK> use the program
[22:01] <LukeOK> Universal USB Installer
[22:01] <xubuntu508> oh ok , what does that do?
[22:01] <xubuntu508> i am googling it
[22:03] <LukeOK> make you able to boot a iso of ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu (or what do you wnat), from usb
[22:03] <xubuntu508> ok nice
[22:03] <xubuntu508> I was reading about it
[22:04] <xubuntu508> so then I will not have to install OS on drive but have it in USB , right?
[22:04] <LukeOK> yes
[22:04] <LukeOK> permanently
[22:04] <xubuntu508> and whenever I want to have Ubuntu , I plug in USB and boot Ubuntu
[22:04] <LukeOK> no
[22:04] <xubuntu508> and other times just boot Windows
[22:05] <LukeOK> no
[22:05] <xubuntu508> oh ok
[22:05] <LukeOK> this program make you able to install buntu
[22:05] <xubuntu508> oh ok
[22:05] <LukeOK> or what you want
[22:05] <xubuntu508> but installation is still on hard drive
[22:05] <LukeOK> when you install ubuntu
[22:05] <LukeOK> yes
[22:05] <LukeOK> at boot you can choose windows or ubuntu
[22:05] <xubuntu508> ok so i will still need a partition done on disk
[22:06] <LukeOK> yes :D
[22:06] <xubuntu508> good. sorry to ask noob questions
[22:06] <LukeOK> no problem
[22:06] <xubuntu508> but first time trying smthin else than windows
[22:06] <LukeOK> no problem
[22:06] <xubuntu508> so not much proficient with OS other than windows
[22:07] <LukeOK> i have done what you want to do
[22:07] <xubuntu508> okay
[22:07] <xubuntu508> is it better than windows? I mean in using resources?
[22:07] <LukeOK> i think
[22:08] <LukeOK> what your pc hardware?
[22:08] <LukeOK> still sorry for my bad english
[22:08] <xubuntu508> i have laptop with Intel core 2 duo
[22:08] <xubuntu508> 1gb ram
[22:08] <xubuntu508> ur english is good
[22:08] <xubuntu508> 2.0ghz
[22:09] <LukeOK> you run programs smoothly in xubuntu
[22:09] <LukeOK> trust me
[22:09] <xubuntu508> ok good
[22:10] <LukeOK> :D
[22:10] <xubuntu508> because I am sick and tired of this laptop and planning to get a new one but still need to save some more money. so was thinking at least do smthin with this one to make it usable
[22:11] <LukeOK> you'll be able to do
[22:11] <LukeOK> with xubuntu
[22:11] <xubuntu508> ok
[22:11] <LukeOK> both in ubuntu
[22:11] <LukeOK> xubuntu i for low specific computers
[22:12] <xubuntu508> can you point me to somewhere I can read about how to do stuff like watching videos. downloading torrents etc in xbuntu after I install it?
[22:12] <LukeOK> like a blog?
[22:12] <xubuntu508> yeah
[22:12] <xubuntu508> or a guide
[22:13] <LukeOK> wait
[22:13] <xubuntu508> ok
[22:14] <LukeOK> http://www.anthonynotes.com/2012/05/04/anthonys-xubuntu-12-04-post-installation-guide/
[22:14] <LukeOK> maybe
[22:14] <LukeOK> but i'm not sure
[22:14] <xubuntu508> I will check it out
[22:15] <xubuntu508> Thanks for answering question , Will go now.
[22:15] <xubuntu508> Bye
[22:15] <LukeOK> ok
[22:15] <LukeOK> no problem