| * agateau answers day old irc pings now | 07:33 | |
| agateau | shadeslayer: yes, I am coming to Akademy | 07:33 |
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| agateau | Riddell: I've been exclusively using lightdm-kde for a long time now, I consider it solid. It still lacks the lock-after-autologin feature from kdm though, but I know David Edmundson has a plan for it, ping him. | 07:34 |
| agateau | yofel_: that bug with the lightdm classic greeter is probably due to a bug in the plasma components it uses. In the "User Bar" theme we actually have fixed copies of the TextField component to fix keyboard handling | 07:36 |
| agateau | yofel_: the fixes are in KDE 4.9, so it should work correctly there | 07:36 |
| Riddell | agateau: did you see the bugs which debfx had? | 07:39 |
| agateau | Riddell: mmm no | 07:40 |
| Riddell | by default it wants to log into a previous session which doesn't work | 07:40 |
| agateau | oh | 07:40 |
| agateau | I haven't been active on lightdm for a while now, it may be fixed already | 07:40 |
| agateau | but I remember something like this | 07:41 |
| * agateau checks | 07:41 | |
| Riddell | agateau: can you get the language box to contain some options? it's entirely empty for me | 07:41 |
| agateau | Riddell: oh yes, that one as well | 07:42 |
| agateau | Riddell: reading the log of david work right now: he "fixed" the language box by removing it | 07:44 |
| Riddell | ug Debian's owncloud packages don't install mysql and don't set up a mysql database for you | 10:15 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: awesome, you can teach me everything about KSNI and App Indicator | 10:20 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: first thing to learn: KSNI == App Indicator | 10:20 |
| shadeslayer | right, knew that :P | 10:20 |
| Riddell | ug and then it doesn't even set up right | 10:20 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: there I just reduced your teaching to half :) | 10:20 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 10:20 |
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| jussi | Riddell: I find kamerka much lighter and nicer UI IMHO. However, it does not (yet) do video. | 10:59 |
| jussi | (in regards to the seed change) | 10:59 |
| Riddell | can't say I've heard of it | 11:00 |
| jussi | !info kamerka | 11:02 |
| ubottu | kamerka (source: kamerka): shiny photo taking application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-1 (precise), package size 96 kB, installed size 318 kB | 11:02 |
| jussi | Riddell: install and try it | 11:02 |
| jussi | Riddell: iirc, Kamerka is written with QML | 11:04 |
| Riddell | mm, shiny indeed | 11:05 |
| Riddell | afiestas_: how do you think they compare? | 11:05 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: don't forget about kde-telepathy message-indicator! | 11:19 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ofcourse not, I've deferred it till Akademy where I'll talk to agateau about implementation details | 11:20 |
| shadeslayer | then I'll have a better idea of what needs to be done | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | talking about deferred | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: do we have data yet? | 11:20 |
| * shadeslayer runs off to /dev/null | 11:20 | |
| Riddell | data? | 11:22 |
| shadeslayer | I sent you the data, but you were not satisfied, I also have lost interest in gathering said data | 11:22 |
| * shadeslayer is on a coding spree | 11:22 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fwiw call ui now has phonon integration as well, but the phonon KCM is all sorts of broken | 11:23 |
| shadeslayer | kde bug 302308 | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | the phonon kcm was designed to support runtime backend switching == the phonon kcm is broken by design | 11:23 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 302308 in general "kcm_phonon does not update device list even when a existing/new device is plugged in" [Normal,New: ] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302308 | 11:23 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 11:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fix eet | 11:24 |
| * apachelogger was under the impression the pulse overlay does plug listening | 11:24 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: well, you are working on runtime anyway | 11:24 |
| shadeslayer | wait ... I am? when did that happen | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | you just need to register to some pulse signal or osmething | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: kio streaming? | 11:24 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes | 11:30 |
| shadeslayer | Seems like I've got my hands in too many things :P | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | srsly? :P | 11:32 |
| * Peace- has compiled ffmpeg successfully on quantal | 11:32 | |
| * Peace- happ | 11:32 | |
| Peace- | y* | 11:32 |
| * apachelogger tired and sticky | 11:33 | |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order shower | 11:33 |
| * kubotu slides shower down the bar to apachelogger | 11:33 | |
| * Peace- feel sorry for apachelogger | 11:33 | |
| apachelogger | pff | 11:33 |
| Peace- | feels | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | yesterday it was like super hawt, then it started raining now it is super hawt and super humid | 11:34 |
| Peace- | here there is 39 degree | 11:36 |
| Peace- | wtf | 11:36 |
| shadeslayer | hah! | 11:38 |
| shadeslayer | It's something like 45 degrees here | 11:39 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fwiw I still couldn't get the KIO stuff to work | 11:45 |
| shadeslayer | I didn't get the right debug messages | 11:45 |
| shadeslayer | I'll look into it next week | 11:46 |
| * apachelogger points out htat 4.9 is closing in :/ | 11:47 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: so, what's with the data? | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | not really interested :( | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | good thing I waited 2 or was it 3 months then | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | <- not happy, not at all | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, sorry about that | 11:48 |
| Riddell | what data is this? | 11:48 |
| * shadeslayer is not motivated enough to collect data | 11:48 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: data about where we spend most of our dev time | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | and where we can improve | 11:48 |
| Riddell | mm, tricksy | 11:49 |
| apachelogger | well then | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | how about some mangement overhead? :D | 11:51 |
| Riddell | not something kubuntu has ever had is that | 11:54 |
| apachelogger | just about time | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | any ideas what library I should link against for kdeui and kdecore? | 12:05 |
| shadeslayer | -lkdeui -lkdecore doesn't seem to be working | 12:05 |
| Riddell | mm, libkdeui and libkdecore? | 12:05 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 12:05 |
| Riddell | in cmake? | 12:05 |
| shadeslayer | configure.in ... | 12:06 |
| shadeslayer | don't ask ... | 12:06 |
| Riddell | umm | 12:06 |
| Riddell | well /usr/lib/libkdecore.so and /usr/lib/libkdeui.so are there | 12:07 |
| shadeslayer | like I said .. don't ask :P | 12:07 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, the project was linking against kdeui and kdecore | 12:07 |
| shadeslayer | was missing libs | 12:07 |
| apachelogger | braindumps ftw | 12:40 |
| * markey dumps brain | 12:42 | |
| markey | mmmmh brainz | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/zombie-apocalypse-are-bath-salts-to-blame/2012/06/07/gJQAsYL3LV_blog.html | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj_ | Hey all | 13:10 |
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| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1005677] Re-emergence of "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widg... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1005677 (by Doug McMahon) | 16:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1005677 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Re-emergence of "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)'"" [High,Confirmed] | 16:23 |
| ScottK | BTW, Debian finally uploaded kde4libs 4.8.4 to Unstable, so that's a good source of what patches are really needed if someone wants to resume work on 4.8.4 for precise. | 16:50 |
| debfx | ScottK: 4.8.4 is already in the updates PPA | 16:57 |
| debfx | we should probably lift it to -proposed soon | 16:58 |
| ScottK | debfx: With the fixed kde4libs? | 16:58 |
| debfx | yes | 16:58 |
| ScottK | Ah. Let's go then. | 16:59 |
| ScottK | If someone can upload them, I'm in ubuntu-sru now, so I can accept them. | 16:59 |
| * debfx has another look at kubuntu-ppa bugs first | 17:02 | |
| debfx | I suppose we don't have a script to push packages from the updates ppa to -proposed? | 17:06 |
| debfx | yofel_, Riddell ^ | 17:06 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: ^^^ | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | afaik no | 17:10 |
| BluesKaj_ | later all , stuff to do | 17:47 |
| yofel_ | debfx: afaik no, at least not from me | 20:07 |
| yofel_ | can you cherry pick http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=kdelibs.git&a=commit&h=808914aff663636e602fd6b60d6040bf0001e462 btw. ? That really removes the Hibernate button from plasma | 20:08 |
| genii-around | Perhaps someone may know offhand.. if there is some known bug with 3.4,3.5 64 bit kernels and Atom N450. I get odd error messages. | 20:11 |
| yofel_ | #ubuntu+1 would be more helpful I guess | 20:22 |
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| shadeslayer | or for that matter, #ubuntu-kernel | 20:23 |
| genii-around | Hm | 20:25 |
| debfx | yofel: to precise? | 20:52 |
| yofel | yes, for 4.9 it'll be in rc1 | 20:52 |
| yofel | but we got bug reports about hibernate not working as we disabling it in policykit, and plasma ignored that | 20:52 |
| yofel | *we're | 20:52 |
| yofel | er, solid ignored it | 20:53 |
| debfx | appShouldConserveResources() is called to check if hibernation is allowed? | 20:53 |
| yofel | wait | 20:54 |
| yofel | debfx: sorry, I'm too tired today -.- I meant http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=kde-workspace.git&a=commit&h=c78a108ae304a42c0507f2ae962ba186f10426f6 | 20:55 |
| yofel | thanks a lot for taking a look | 20:56 |
| debfx | that looks more plausible ;) | 20:57 |
| debfx | I wonder what that kdelibs commit fixes, the commit message is not very verbose | 20:57 |
| Ezim | why are not kubuntu-netrunner working togheter? netrunner developer is same person that also is behind blue system. correct? | 21:14 |
| BluesKaj | Ezim, yup | 21:16 |
| Ezim | BluesKaj: good. then drop kubuntu and join netrunner :)... maybe leave buntu based and go over to debian. | 21:17 |
| BluesKaj | Ezim, I tried netrunner ..it's ok , but nothing special from what could see. A stable kubuntu based OS | 21:18 |
| Ezim | BluesKaj: it is kubuntu :). I know that. but why netrunner-kubuntu, when same company supports both. | 21:19 |
| BluesKaj | pretty plain vanilla , nothing exciting going on | 21:19 |
| BluesKaj | stability is the philosophy , I believe | 21:20 |
| Ezim | BluesKaj: stability is good, then why not direct base kubuntu on debian? | 21:21 |
| BluesKaj | dunno , it's a compiliation of tried and true apps and driver for ppl who don't want any "issues". | 21:22 |
| Ezim | BluesKaj: driver and apps are avaible in debian to :) | 21:23 |
| BluesKaj | debian's permissions system is goofy | 21:23 |
| Ezim | almost everything that buntu uses comes from upstream and often that is debian. | 21:23 |
| BluesKaj | Ezim, you can say the same thing about ubuntu all of it's derivatives | 21:25 |
| Ezim | BluesKaj: :) yeah my question was towards kubuntu, not the other buntu. | 21:25 |
| BluesKaj | well, it's kde , some ppl prefer kde to the other desktops | 21:26 |
| Ezim | BluesKaj: exactly. :) | 21:27 |
| ScottK | Ezim: Kubuntu is stability, but not acient. | 21:27 |
| Ezim | ScottK: debian testing is also stable and not acient :). | 21:27 |
| ScottK | If you want to run KDE 4.4 in 2012, then Debian Squeeze is a good choice. | 21:27 |
| BluesKaj | netrunner doesmn't use some of the default kubuntu apps , it even uses some gtk apps by default | 21:28 |
| ScottK | That's a mix of 4.7 and 4.8 right now. | 21:28 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1011400] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: lectura insuficiente en buf... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1011400 (by Manuel) | 21:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1011400 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: lectura insuficiente en buffer_copy para error en dpkg-deb durante `./usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4.8.1'" [Undecided,New] | 21:38 |
| debfx | kubotu: why do you only post useless bug reports? | 21:41 |
| debfx | yofel: is there a launchpad bug for the polkit hibernation issue? | 21:52 |
| shadeslayer | pkgkde-symbolshelper seems a bit busted | 21:52 |
| yofel | debfx: bug 989652 against kubuntu-ppa is what I remember | 21:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 989652 in Kubuntu PPA "Hibernate only locks the screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/989652 | 21:54 |
| debfx | ok | 21:59 |
| shadeslayer | I've been meaning to ask, what does this : +#MISSING: 0.4.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1# _ZN6Attica8Metadata7PrivateD1Ev@Base 0.4.0 : signify? | 22:24 |
| shadeslayer | the MISSING part I mean | 22:25 |
| shadeslayer | nvm ... debian has docs on this :| | 22:25 |
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