[05:55] <gnomefreak> is dpkg fixed yet?
[06:09] <gnomefreak> maybe not
[06:14]  * gnomefreak getting tired of seeing "Dizzy*" beiung held back
[07:47] <qdb> hello . can i install http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/bcmwl-kernel-source ( 5.100.82.112 ) to 10.10 ?
[07:51] <X-tonic> isnt quantal shipping with py3? there was a blog post abt it. But packages.ubuntu.com tells otherwise
[09:18] <graingert_ufo> heya
[09:19] <graingert_ufo> how does one upgrade at this early point in ubuntu+1 history?
[09:19] <graingert_ufo> the standard -d does not cut it
[09:38] <brendand> graingert_ufo, the upgrades are being blocked because python3 porting is not done
[09:38] <graingert_ufo> ic
[09:38] <brendand> graingert_ufo, so to get quantal you must cd install
[09:38] <graingert_ufo> makes sense
[09:57] <AlanBell> hi all, I am wondering if I can install skype on quantal
[09:58] <AlanBell> I am having trouble installing ia32-libs
[09:58] <AlanBell> I had it running on precise and upgraded and skype was removed (fair enough) but I can't seem to reinstall it
[09:59] <AlanBell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1053984/
[10:18] <nperry> AlanBell, I installed the 32bit version of 4.0.4 becuase of ia32-libs playing up.
[10:27] <AlanBell> interesting
[10:27] <qdb> hello. is it usable
[10:29] <nperry> define: "it";
[10:29] <X-tonic> wasnt 12.10 planning on a python 3 shift?
[10:30] <nperry> X-tonic, python3 is now in the repos.... The shift hasn't happened yet afaik
[10:32] <X-tonic> Yes, but I read a blog about it on http://planet.ubuntu.com/ . I cant seem to locate it right now because I cannot see its archives, but it was said that with 12.10 py3 will be the default, and they were speeding up building existing packages with py3
[10:44] <qdb> nperry, ubuntu 12.10 alpha1
[10:53] <brendand> nperry, python3 was in the repos even in precise. python3 will be default in quantal, so everything has to work with it
[10:54] <brendand> nperry, it's happening (my team is in the middle of converting our packages), but not done yet
[11:00] <nperry> brendand, I'm assuming it is going to be a big task
[11:01] <brendand> nperry, it's taken us 3-4 weeks
[11:01] <brendand> nperry, many teams working in parallel though...
[11:21] <Varikonniemi> funny how a change of language version takes a team of developers many weeks
[11:22] <Varikonniemi> i mean, something must fail if not backward compatibility is hold
[11:22] <Varikonniemi> or attained with trivial changes
[11:30] <nperry> Varikonniemi, blame python.
[13:10] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[13:18] <IdleOne> I am having some problems, yesterday i ran dist-upgrade and it upgraded the kernel to 3.5.....and when i rebooted all i got was a black screen after login. this morning there were 15 more packages to upgrade and now when I login it brings me back to the login screen. any idea how I can fix this ?
[13:37] <IdleOne> also when I try to run startx from TTY I see an error about "Unable to load module nvidia" or maybe it is unable to locate module.
[13:53] <bjsnider> IdleOne, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:53] <IdleOne> bjsnider, I looked but I don't know what I am looking for and even if I found it would not know how to interpret it.
[13:54] <IdleOne> suppose I should pastebin it for someone to look at. :)
[14:04] <BluesKaj_> IdleOne, i had a partial install happen to me , very similar to yours , and I ran the repair packages option in the recovery kernel in grub , and worked . Or you can run update/upgrade at the tty and restart
[14:05] <IdleOne> BluesKaj_, I am not getting any errors about packages that need fixing
[14:06] <IdleOne> in windows right now and can't seem to figure out how to access /var/ so i can pastebin the log
[14:06] <BluesKaj_> IdleOne, you won't , but they might be there
[14:06] <IdleOne> BluesKaj_, I see. I'll give it a try then.
[14:36] <Guest89732> bjsnider: paste.ubuntu.com/1054334 Xorg.0 and paste.ubuntu.com/1054337 Xorg.1 logs
[14:37] <IdleOne> BluesKaj_: trying to fix the packages from recovery did not help
[14:39] <BluesKaj_> IdleOne, was there any update/upgrade activity in the recovery mode?
[14:40] <IdleOne> BluesKaj_: I ran upgrade from TTY then rebooted to recovery and tried fixing packages, nothing was done.
[14:41] <BluesKaj_> IdleOne, ok , then it's not what i suspected, bummer :(
[14:41] <IdleOne> what is happening is that when I try to login via the GUI it brings me right back to the login manager
[14:42] <IdleOne> very frustrating seeing how everything was running great till last night
[14:43] <BluesKaj_> IdleOne,  I had a partial nvidia install that prevented X from starting , which then had to be finished installing in the recovery kernel
[14:44] <IdleOne> BluesKaj_: when I run startx I get Failed to load module "nvidia"
[14:44] <IdleOne> I did try uninstalling nvidia-common and reinstalling but no joy
[14:46] <genii-around> IdleOne: Did you try like apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current    , then update-initramfs -u    ?
[14:46] <bjsnider> IdleOne, ok, your system is installing nouveau
[14:46] <bjsnider> using nouveau i should say
[14:46] <bjsnider> it just fails
[14:46] <bjsnider> and vesa fails too
[14:46] <bjsnider> so you should try using nvidia-current
[14:46] <IdleOne> will give that a try. so I remove nvidia-common first?
[14:47] <bjsnider> oh, i see what's wrong
[14:48] <IdleOne> installing -current
[14:48] <bjsnider> nouveau can't work because your kernel command line contains nomodeset
[14:48] <IdleOne> hmm
[14:48] <bjsnider> nouveau needs kms to work
[14:48] <IdleOne> how that get in there
[14:50] <BluesKaj_> keep nvidia-common
[14:52] <IdleOne> genii-around: what does the -u do?
[14:53] <BluesKaj_> installing nvidia-current should disable nouveau , probly blacklist
[14:53] <genii-around> IdleOne: Updates the initramfs for the running kernel
[14:53] <BluesKaj_> ah genii-around good to know
[14:54] <IdleOne> suppose I need to reboot now?
[14:54] <bjsnider> IdleOne, does your /etc/default/grub file have nomodeset in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT section?
[14:54] <IdleOne> let me look
[14:55] <IdleOne> err no such file
[14:56] <bjsnider> it's there, if you have grub2
[14:56] <bjsnider> if not, what kind of linux install is this
[14:56] <IdleOne> I do have grub2
[14:56] <bjsnider> and why am i trying to support it
[14:56] <IdleOne> bjsnider: I only run (K)Ubuntu
[14:57] <IdleOne> oh, wait. my bad
[14:57] <BluesKaj_> bbl
[14:57] <bjsnider> did you forget the /?
[14:58] <IdleOne> I put grub before default :) and I only have quiet splash in that line
[14:59] <bjsnider> is nomodeset in that file at all?
[14:59] <IdleOne> nope
[14:59] <IdleOne> just checked
[15:00] <bjsnider> wait, it says ro recovery nomdeset
[15:00] <bjsnider> so that's your log from a recovery boot, not a normal boot
[15:01] <IdleOne> paste.ubuntu.com/1054379 is /etc/default/grub
[15:01] <bjsnider> yeah those 2 logs aren't much help
[15:02] <IdleOne> paste.ubuntu.com/1054383 is new Xorg
[15:02] <IdleOne> Xorg.0.log that is
[15:05] <IdleOne> Now when I try to run startx I get Failed to load module "nv"
[15:06] <IdleOne> hmm, going to reboot because I am also seeing ro recovery nomodeset when running startx
[15:10] <idleone> wow, something has changed because my font is incredibly small now
[15:11] <idleone> still unable to login via the GUI though
[15:12] <bjsnider> you should be axing in #ubuntu-x
[15:12] <idleone> for support with +1 ?
[15:13] <idleone> paste.ubuntu.com/1054396 is this log any more helpful to you?
[16:12] <bjsnider> IdleOne, yeah they're always out on the cutting edge
[17:18] <genii-around> Is there some known issue with 64bit and atom 64 bit processors? I'm getting something like BUG: Bad RSS-COUNTER on the netbook but not the laptop ( identical repos, same kernel )
[17:51] <dupondje> Somebody around for some weird question ? :)
[17:52] <dupondje> try surfing to www.hln.be does it work ?
[17:56] <genii-around> dupondje: Logo comes on the firefox tab but the page seems blank
[17:57] <genii-around> dupondje: The redirect page listed in the source, http://hln.website-redirect.owc.persgroep.be/index.html  also seems nonexistant
[17:57] <dupondje> odd
[17:58] <dupondje> it just works perfect on windows ... :P
[17:58] <dupondje> genii-around: firefox ?
[17:58] <genii-around> dupondje: Yes, nightly
[17:59] <dupondje> you have chromium ?
[17:59] <genii-around> dupondje: Nope
[17:59] <genii-around> ( and i don't care to install it )
[18:00] <dupondje> somebody with chromium around that could test it ? :D
[18:09] <genii-around> dupondje: Just http://www.persgroep.be/ works
[18:11] <IdleOne> If anybody cares I am still unable to login to GUI and I am frustrated :/
[18:11] <IdleOne> genii-around, halp meh or am switch 2 fedora
[18:11] <genii-around> IdleOne: Heh
[18:12] <IdleOne> hehe
[18:12] <genii-around> IdleOne: Did you manage to get nvidia-current installed?
[18:12] <IdleOne> yes I did and ran update-initramfs -u without any luck
[18:13] <IdleOne> still being sent back to login manager
[18:13] <IdleOne> I'm thinking someone did done broke something good
[18:14] <genii-around> IdleOne: So X starts, but when it tries to load whatever the default DE is, kicks you back to login?
[18:15] <IdleOne> correct
[18:17] <genii-around> IdleOne: At login, tried yet ctrl-alt-f1, logged in and tried to see if there's some permissions issue in your home directory?
[18:17] <IdleOne> I haven't checked permissions
[18:17] <IdleOne> How do i do that?
[18:19] <genii-around> IdleOne: ls -la   Will show you all the dot-files as well as the regular ones, along with who owns them. It could be some file like .ICEauthority has bad permissions or so. To get back to login screen after, alt-f7
[18:20] <IdleOne> genii-around, ok, so what am I looking for?
[18:20] <IdleOne> sometimes I feel like such a beginner
[18:21] <genii-around> IdleOne: Something like -rw-------   1 mike mike      2020 Oct 17  2011 .ICEauthority is fine if your username is mike ( mine is ) but if you see something in the list that has a different owner or group than your username ( might be root root for instance )
[18:22] <IdleOne> ok. need to reboot again. I really dislike not having a GUI so I keep coming back to windows
[18:23] <IdleOne> genii-around, what could change the permissions on .ICEauthority?
[18:24] <IdleOne> I didn't do anything...I ran an upgrade that installed kernel 3.5.0
[18:24] <genii-around> IdleOne: Doing something like running X as root in a user's home directory for instance
[18:25] <IdleOne> I didn't do that
[18:25] <IdleOne> anyway, let me have a look at the permissions
[18:25] <genii-around> IdleOne: Just to ensure everything in there is owned by the user, you could issue like: sudo chown -R username: /home/username
[18:26] <IdleOne> sudo chown -R idleone: /home/idleone ?
[18:26] <genii-around> IdleOne: Yup
[18:26] <IdleOne> k
[18:27] <IdleOne> if my pc explodes I am driving to TO to slap you with a trout
[18:27] <genii-around> IdleOne: Then if you return to login with alt-f7 and it lets your desktop load, it was permissions issue of some sort
[18:27] <genii-around> Heh
[18:28] <genii-around> It's also conceivable the default DE it wants to load is missing, or was using some resolution or setting which is now not possible for it to use, etc
[18:29] <IdleOne> hmm so I should try installing kubuntu-desktop again
[18:37] <bjsnider> did he try to log in to the guest account?
[18:40] <genii-around> bjsnider: I don't know, probably not
[19:01] <FernandoMiguel> darn it
[19:01] <FernandoMiguel> my system is again broken
[19:01] <FernandoMiguel> I did a clean install just last week :(
[19:01] <FernandoMiguel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1016294
[19:03] <FernandoMiguel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/1016294/comments/4
[19:05] <IdleOne> genii-around: .ICEauthority was owned by my user but I chown _r anyway and I also reinstalled kubuntu-desktop, making sure to select KDE plasma workspace at the login screen. I owe you a hug and beer :)
[19:05] <IdleOne> -R*
[19:06] <genii-around> IdleOne: Cool
[19:06] <IdleOne> thanks for the help. I will stick with ubuntu.
[19:12] <IdleOne> bjsnider:  thank you also for taking time earlier to help :)
[19:52] <FernandoMiguel> #1015329
[19:52] <FernandoMiguel> fuuuuu
[19:52] <FernandoMiguel> that was a critical bug :!
[19:52] <FernandoMiguel> bug #1015329
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel> arch=$(dpkg --print-architecture | tail -n1); while true; do res=$(sudo dpkg --configure -a 2>&1 | sed -n -e"s/.*file triggers record mentions illegal package name \`\([^']*\)'.*/\1/p"); if [ -z "$res" ]; then break; fi; echo Fixing trigger for package $res; sudo sed -i -e"s/$res\$/$res:$arch/" /var/lib/dpkg/triggers/File; done
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel> to fix it