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RAOFrobert_ancell: A meeting intervened, but you've got your xchat-gnome SRU :)01:09
robert_ancellRAOF, yay!01:57
pittiBonjour mes amis04:33
RAOFOh, oh! It's a pitti! That means it must be past lunch time!04:42
TheMusoyay for proposed being useful for such things as an X transition. :)05:58
RAOFHey, I'll even be able to do the quantal-proposed → quantal copy myself ;)06:23
TheMusoOh yeah that is a bonus.06:35
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RAOF…leaving only -ati, which I might do after I finish cleaning up the madness that is the xwayland support patch.07:07
seb128hey07:51
pittibonjour seb12808:06
seb128pitti, hey, how are you? happy friday!08:07
pittiseb128: happy Friday to you, too!08:07
seb128pitti, ready for tonight? ;-)08:08
pittiseb128: one word: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hrTHkk7bLUA/T-HqmzR_FWI/AAAAAAAAApw/nfzupKC06zM/s903/fanauto.jpg :)08:09
seb128lol08:09
seb128I wonder what team that guy is supporting ;-)08:10
pittiby now this car got even more stuff08:10
pittisome garlands around the hub caps, for example08:11
pittiit's usually parked on a nearby crossing during the week08:11
pittiseb128: we'll go to a Beer garden again, or a pub, depending on the weather08:11
pittiseb128: do you think you guys can hold up against Spain tomorrow?08:12
seb128pitti, weather has been crap again here :-( yesterday was the "music fest" day and they just didn't get to do the bands playing outdoor08:12
seb128too much rain,wind08:12
pittitoo bad08:12
pittiwe had nice summer weather again, just a thunderstorm in the night08:12
seb128yeah08:12
seb128pitti, well, they didn't hold the outdoor because of the thunderstorm which was announced, they said it was risky for the installations if there is too much wind08:13
seb128pitti, @Spain: will be hard, but it's sport, you never know ;-) they might have a day off, or we might have a good day ;-)08:13
seb128pitti, and if France loose I still have Germany to support ;-)08:16
pittiseb128: haha; if we don't screw it up08:16
pittithey will want revenge against Merkel, I figure :)08:17
seb128pitti, joke aside my bet is on Germany this year, it's either you guys or Spain, and Spain already won 2 titles it would be good to have another team this time ;-)08:17
chrisccoulsongood morning08:20
seb128chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?08:26
chrisccoulsonseb128, feel a bit like i've been hit by a bus this morning ;)08:28
chrisccoulsonhow are you?08:28
seb128chrisccoulson, still your cold? or did you do too much exercice? ;-)08:28
seb128chrisccoulson, I'm good, it's friday!08:28
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, still got this cold, and quite a headache this morning too08:29
seb128chrisccoulson, :-(08:29
pittichrisccoulson: uh, get well soon then!08:29
seb128chrisccoulson, stop drinking too much on thursday's night! ;-)08:29
chrisccoulsonthanks :)08:29
chrisccoulsonlol08:30
chrisccoulsoni wish it was because i'd been drinking :)08:30
chrisccoulsoni got a couple of nice bottles of beer for fathers day, which i haven't drank yet08:30
seb128chrisccoulson, ;-)08:32
Sweetsharkjibel: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51324 <- upstreamed the first quantal testsuite bug09:07
ubot2Freedesktop bug 51324 in Presentation "crash in xmloff.Impress.XMLContentImporter::com::sun::star::document::XImporter" [Normal,New: ]09:07
seb128Sweetshark, hey09:08
Sweetsharkjibel: I got a key for the qa machine, is there any tricks for getting in?09:08
Sweetsharkseb128: heya!09:08
Sweetsharkseb128: I hugged you in absence for the SRU news.09:09
seb128Sweetshark, ;-)09:09
chrisccoulsonis anyone else using kvm?09:18
chrisccoulsonit seems to be completely broken here. i can't boot anything with it :(09:18
seb128chrisccoulson, I had issues with it and changed for virtualbox09:26
seb128chrisccoulson, but I'm not on quantal yet09:26
seb128virtualbox is nice though ;-)09:26
chrisccoulsonhmmm, maybe i'll have to try switching to virtualbox09:26
chrisccoulsoni can see today is going to be productive :/09:26
seb128kvm is good to boot a CD iso but virtualbox has some nice ui and makes easy to add devices to the vm, etc09:27
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chrisccoulsonseb128, ok, virtualbox seems to work here :)09:43
seb128chrisccoulson, welcome to the virtualbox users' club ;-)09:43
chrisccoulsoni have oracle software on my laptop. i feel dirty now09:44
chrisccoulson:)09:44
seb128chrisccoulson, you didn't have java installed? ;-)10:00
chrisccoulsonhah10:00
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* chrisccoulson hungry11:23
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Chipacahey there. vlc (the qt gui) seems to be busted in Q, with the window apparently resizing to an infinite height thing -- known issue?11:33
seb128Chipaca, not known but we don't really maintain vlc here11:34
seb128Chipaca, so I'm not sure we would know about its issues11:34
Chipacaright11:34
seb128chrisccoulson, STEAK! ;-)11:34
chrisccoulsonlol11:35
Chipacachrisccoulson: you had oracle software installed since day one, sorry to break it to you11:35
Chipacachrisccoulson: think: every software that ever was done by sun is now oracle software11:35
Chipacachrisccoulson: that includes a lot of unix and tcp/ip plumbing11:35
chrisccoulsonChipaca, thanks. i'm going to go and kill myself now ;)11:36
Chipacachrisccoulson: grep -l "Sun Microsystems" /usr/share/doc/*/copyright11:36
seb128we should just drop the sun java and use the google one :-p11:37
seb128to teach them ;-)11:37
Chipacachrisccoulson: one you might like to know about is GTK11:38
Chipacachrisccoulson: and nautilus11:39
Chipacai should stop there11:39
seb128Chipaca, well, they probably contributed patches but they for sure don't own those ;-)11:39
Chipacaseb128: well, they hold copyright to them11:40
Chipacaseb128: if that's not owning them, i don't know what it is11:40
Chipacas/what it is/what owning them is/11:40
seb128Chipaca, owning 1% doesn't make you own the whole thing ;-)11:40
Chipacaseb128: poteito, potahto11:42
Chipacaseb128: i'll stop trolling, now11:42
seb128Chipaca, it's friday after all ;-)11:42
Chipacayes, but nessita is coming11:42
seb128indeed11:42
seb128nessita, hey, happy friday ;-)11:42
nessitahello everyone!11:44
nessitahola Chipaca, seb12811:44
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bigonpitti: around? I've some consolekit questions11:54
jdstrandsil2100: hi! would you mind looking at the patch to unity-2d in bug #1016386?12:15
ubot2Launchpad bug 1016386 in unity-2d "Thunderbird drop downs still don't work in unity 2D" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101638612:15
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pittihello bigon12:22
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bigonpitti: hello, I've some questions about CK, I saw your name several time related to it12:29
pittiit's been a while I did anything with it, but what's up?12:29
bigon2 things, 1) I'm not sure debian (and I guess ubuntu) are using the pam_ck_connector properly12:30
bigonfor what I've understood it should only be used by login application (login, gdm,...)12:31
bigoncurrently I think it's added to the common-session file12:31
pittiright, so that it applies to "su"12:32
bigonI saw you did the "nox11" patch to be able to add it in that file12:32
bigonyeah12:32
pittiit's not in common-session-noninteractive, to not fire for cron and the like12:32
bigonso I'm not sure if it would releavant to modify the login-like services manually to add the call to it there12:34
pittiyou do to have the X11 display and active == True there12:35
bigonwell by manually I mean add it in the pam file of the service shipped by the pkg's instead of common-session12:37
bigonso we could really control how this module is called12:37
pittiit isn't?12:37
bigonyou mean?12:38
pitti$ cat /etc/pam.d/lightdm|grep ck_con12:38
pitti$12:38
bigonah12:38
bigoncommon-session:sessionoptionalpam_ck_connector.so nox1112:38
pittiwell, it includes common-session of course12:38
* bigon cannot read12:38
pittiso lightdm still loads it12:38
pittibut I guess I misunderstood you12:39
bigontrue, but other non login services may also load it12:39
bigon(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677288 BTW)12:39
ubot2Debian bug 677288 in libpam-runtime "libpam-runtime: Please add pam-auth-update support for loading module in login services" [Wishlist,Open]12:39
bigonthe thing is that pam_ck_connector required to be loaded after pam_loginuid12:40
sil2100jdstrand: I'll try in a moment12:40
jdstrandthanks!12:41
bigonI'm trying to understand why that module has been added to the session-common instead of the individual pam service file12:41
bigon(which looks more sensible to be)12:41
bigonthe two issue I see with it beiing in session-common are: 1) ordering issue with loginuid 2) it could start a new CK session when this is not inteded12:43
pittibigon: because those are conffiles12:43
pittiwhich libpam-ck-connector cannot modify12:43
bigonfedora solved this by using -session optional pam_ck_connector.so12:43
pittiit can only update common-session{,-noninteractive} through pam-auth-update12:43
pitti/usr/share/pam-configs/consolekit12:44
bigonthe - meaning that it doesn't fail if the module is not loaded (no loggin, nothing)12:44
bigonlogging12:44
pittihm, not sure whether pam-auth-update has a mode for this, to prepend a -12:45
pittithat's a question for slangasek12:45
bigonI've already discussed this a but with slangasek, the outcome was the bug 677288 in debian12:47
ubot2Launchpad bug 677288 in linuxmint "Linux Mint freezes when connecting the wireless" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67728812:47
bigonarf12:47
bigonI justs wanted to know what was the rational of the call being in -common, I was a bit confused actually of when the module should be called12:48
pittiit's mostly conffile vs. pam-auth-update managed12:48
bigonyeah I see know12:49
pittiwe could drop the latter, but then woudl have to adjust the conffiles of eveyrthing in the archive which touches PAM sessions12:49
bigonwe might have to do that to add loginuid calls12:49
bigonas said CK requires this too12:50
bigonto set a proper "login-session-id" (see ck-list-sessions)12:50
bigonhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=676527 and all the bloking bugs12:54
ubot2Debian bug 676527 in auditd "auditd package shouldn't add pam_loginuid.so in common-session(-interactive)" [Normal,Open]12:54
sil2100jdstrand: so, on natty the previous fix was not enough? The one in -security?12:55
jdstrandsil2100: that is correct13:13
dpmhi kenvandine, I'll create the "Social Networking" page on d.u.c and then I think we're good to go to publish the tutorial. I've done a few edits and I've added 'Conclusion' and 'Learn more' sections to be consistent with the structure of other tutorials on the site. Would you mind adding a few words to the conclusion and seeing if there is anything else we might want to add to 'Learn more'?13:25
kenvandinedpm, sure... i did tweak it a little more last night and i went ahead and published it :)13:27
kenvandineso i could give the link to a couple people that have been asking13:27
dpmkenvandine, sure, but the link will change once the social networking page is published, though. It will no longer be under multimedia/, but social-networking/ - you'll need to update them on that13:29
kenvandinedpm, i changed the link too :)13:29
kenvandinei saw you had created the category13:29
kenvandinethx for adding the screenshots!13:29
dpmno worries :)13:29
kenvandineand the bzr instructions :-D13:29
dpm;)13:30
kenvandinenice, you highlighted the code i added... cool13:30
kenvandinedidn't know you could do that13:30
dpmyeah, I've been working a bit on it this morning, and running the tutorial myself to check everything we write we can actually run :)13:31
kenvandinedpm, how bad is it if we both edit at the same time?  wordpress isn't as cool as google docs is it?13:31
* kenvandine will wait for the can edit token :)13:31
dpmkenvandine, you should be good to go, I've finished editing. But Wordpress wants me to close the tab, just a sec :)13:32
kenvandinesorry dpm!13:51
dpmkenvandine, lol, no worries, I was about to mention if you had ever heard of pastebin.ubuntu.com ;)13:51
dpmkenvandine, ok, all pages are now live http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-developer-cookbook/social-networking/ \o/14:05
kenvandinewoot14:06
kenvandinethx dpm14:06
dpmgood work kenvandine14:07
kenvandinethx dpm14:07
kenvandinethanks for all the help and nagging :)14:08
dpm;)14:12
seb128kenvandine, do you know about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/100567715:40
ubot2Ubuntu bug 1005677 in qt4-x11 "Re-emergence of "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)'"" [High,Confirmed]15:40
seb128kenvandine, skaet is asking about it15:40
seb128kenvandine, seems overlay-scrollbar related, I think you discussed similar issues with the u1 guys recently?15:40
kenvandineyeah16:11
kenvandineseb128, ^^16:11
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seb128kenvandine, yeah, it's being worked on? or yeah ...? ;-17:21
seb128;-)17:21
kenvandineyeah i think it is similar to the other bug17:22
kenvandinei assigned it to cimi17:22
kenvandine:)17:22
seb128kenvandine, like we assigned him gtk bug and got them ignored, or did you get him to agree to look at it? ;-)17:22
kenvandineno agreement... so you know... :-/17:24
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roaksoaxhey guys I was wondering what package contains the Ubuntu presentation templates for LIbreOFfice impress?18:11
dobeyhmm, no mterry19:39
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