[01:09] <RAOF> robert_ancell: A meeting intervened, but you've got your xchat-gnome SRU :)
[01:57] <robert_ancell> RAOF, yay!
[04:33] <pitti> Bonjour mes amis
[04:42] <RAOF> Oh, oh! It's a pitti! That means it must be past lunch time!
[05:58] <TheMuso> yay for proposed being useful for such things as an X transition. :)
[06:23] <RAOF> Hey, I'll even be able to do the quantal-proposed → quantal copy myself ;)
[06:35] <TheMuso> Oh yeah that is a bonus.
[07:07] <RAOF> …leaving only -ati, which I might do after I finish cleaning up the madness that is the xwayland support patch.
[07:51] <seb128> hey
[08:06] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[08:07] <seb128> pitti, hey, how are you? happy friday!
[08:07] <pitti> seb128: happy Friday to you, too!
[08:08] <seb128> pitti, ready for tonight? ;-)
[08:09] <pitti> seb128: one word: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hrTHkk7bLUA/T-HqmzR_FWI/AAAAAAAAApw/nfzupKC06zM/s903/fanauto.jpg :)
[08:09] <seb128> lol
[08:10] <seb128> I wonder what team that guy is supporting ;-)
[08:10] <pitti> by now this car got even more stuff
[08:11] <pitti> some garlands around the hub caps, for example
[08:11] <pitti> it's usually parked on a nearby crossing during the week
[08:11] <pitti> seb128: we'll go to a Beer garden again, or a pub, depending on the weather
[08:12] <pitti> seb128: do you think you guys can hold up against Spain tomorrow?
[08:12] <seb128> pitti, weather has been crap again here :-( yesterday was the "music fest" day and they just didn't get to do the bands playing outdoor
[08:12] <seb128> too much rain,wind
[08:12] <pitti> too bad
[08:12] <pitti> we had nice summer weather again, just a thunderstorm in the night
[08:12] <seb128> yeah
[08:13] <seb128> pitti, well, they didn't hold the outdoor because of the thunderstorm which was announced, they said it was risky for the installations if there is too much wind
[08:13] <seb128> pitti, @Spain: will be hard, but it's sport, you never know ;-) they might have a day off, or we might have a good day ;-)
[08:16] <seb128> pitti, and if France loose I still have Germany to support ;-)
[08:16] <pitti> seb128: haha; if we don't screw it up
[08:17] <pitti> they will want revenge against Merkel, I figure :)
[08:17] <seb128> pitti, joke aside my bet is on Germany this year, it's either you guys or Spain, and Spain already won 2 titles it would be good to have another team this time ;-)
[08:20] <chrisccoulson> good morning
[08:26] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?
[08:28] <chrisccoulson> seb128, feel a bit like i've been hit by a bus this morning ;)
[08:28] <chrisccoulson> how are you?
[08:28] <seb128> chrisccoulson, still your cold? or did you do too much exercice? ;-)
[08:28] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I'm good, it's friday!
[08:29] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah, still got this cold, and quite a headache this morning too
[08:29] <seb128> chrisccoulson, :-(
[08:29] <pitti> chrisccoulson: uh, get well soon then!
[08:29] <seb128> chrisccoulson, stop drinking too much on thursday's night! ;-)
[08:29] <chrisccoulson> thanks :)
[08:30] <chrisccoulson> lol
[08:30] <chrisccoulson> i wish it was because i'd been drinking :)
[08:30] <chrisccoulson> i got a couple of nice bottles of beer for fathers day, which i haven't drank yet
[08:32] <seb128> chrisccoulson, ;-)
[09:07] <Sweetshark> jibel: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51324 <- upstreamed the first quantal testsuite bug
[09:07] <ubot2> Freedesktop bug 51324 in Presentation "crash in xmloff.Impress.XMLContentImporter::com::sun::star::document::XImporter" [Normal,New: ]
[09:08] <seb128> Sweetshark, hey
[09:08] <Sweetshark> jibel: I got a key for the qa machine, is there any tricks for getting in?
[09:08] <Sweetshark> seb128: heya!
[09:09] <Sweetshark> seb128: I hugged you in absence for the SRU news.
[09:09] <seb128> Sweetshark, ;-)
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> is anyone else using kvm?
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> it seems to be completely broken here. i can't boot anything with it :(
[09:26] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I had issues with it and changed for virtualbox
[09:26] <seb128> chrisccoulson, but I'm not on quantal yet
[09:26] <seb128> virtualbox is nice though ;-)
[09:26] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, maybe i'll have to try switching to virtualbox
[09:26] <chrisccoulson> i can see today is going to be productive :/
[09:27] <seb128> kvm is good to boot a CD iso but virtualbox has some nice ui and makes easy to add devices to the vm, etc
[09:43] <chrisccoulson> seb128, ok, virtualbox seems to work here :)
[09:43] <seb128> chrisccoulson, welcome to the virtualbox users' club ;-)
[09:44] <chrisccoulson> i have oracle software on my laptop. i feel dirty now
[09:44] <chrisccoulson> :)
[10:00] <seb128> chrisccoulson, you didn't have java installed? ;-)
[10:00] <chrisccoulson> hah
[11:23]  * chrisccoulson hungry
[11:33] <Chipaca> hey there. vlc (the qt gui) seems to be busted in Q, with the window apparently resizing to an infinite height thing -- known issue?
[11:34] <seb128> Chipaca, not known but we don't really maintain vlc here
[11:34] <seb128> Chipaca, so I'm not sure we would know about its issues
[11:34] <Chipaca> right
[11:34] <seb128> chrisccoulson, STEAK! ;-)
[11:35] <chrisccoulson> lol
[11:35] <Chipaca> chrisccoulson: you had oracle software installed since day one, sorry to break it to you
[11:35] <Chipaca> chrisccoulson: think: every software that ever was done by sun is now oracle software
[11:35] <Chipaca> chrisccoulson: that includes a lot of unix and tcp/ip plumbing
[11:36] <chrisccoulson> Chipaca, thanks. i'm going to go and kill myself now ;)
[11:36] <Chipaca> chrisccoulson: grep -l "Sun Microsystems" /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
[11:37] <seb128> we should just drop the sun java and use the google one :-p
[11:37] <seb128> to teach them ;-)
[11:38] <Chipaca> chrisccoulson: one you might like to know about is GTK
[11:39] <Chipaca> chrisccoulson: and nautilus
[11:39] <Chipaca> i should stop there
[11:39] <seb128> Chipaca, well, they probably contributed patches but they for sure don't own those ;-)
[11:40] <Chipaca> seb128: well, they hold copyright to them
[11:40] <Chipaca> seb128: if that's not owning them, i don't know what it is
[11:40] <Chipaca> s/what it is/what owning them is/
[11:40] <seb128> Chipaca, owning 1% doesn't make you own the whole thing ;-)
[11:42] <Chipaca> seb128: poteito, potahto
[11:42] <Chipaca> seb128: i'll stop trolling, now
[11:42] <seb128> Chipaca, it's friday after all ;-)
[11:42] <Chipaca> yes, but nessita is coming
[11:42] <seb128> indeed
[11:42] <seb128> nessita, hey, happy friday ;-)
[11:44] <nessita> hello everyone!
[11:44] <nessita> hola Chipaca, seb128
[11:54] <bigon> pitti: around? I've some consolekit questions
[12:15] <jdstrand> sil2100: hi! would you mind looking at the patch to unity-2d in bug #1016386?
[12:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1016386 in unity-2d "Thunderbird drop downs still don't work in unity 2D" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016386
[12:22] <pitti> hello bigon
[12:29] <bigon> pitti: hello, I've some questions about CK, I saw your name several time related to it
[12:29] <pitti> it's been a while I did anything with it, but what's up?
[12:30] <bigon> 2 things, 1) I'm not sure debian (and I guess ubuntu) are using the pam_ck_connector properly
[12:31] <bigon> for what I've understood it should only be used by login application (login, gdm,...)
[12:31] <bigon> currently I think it's added to the common-session file
[12:32] <pitti> right, so that it applies to "su"
[12:32] <bigon> I saw you did the "nox11" patch to be able to add it in that file
[12:32] <bigon> yeah
[12:32] <pitti> it's not in common-session-noninteractive, to not fire for cron and the like
[12:34] <bigon> so I'm not sure if it would releavant to modify the login-like services manually to add the call to it there
[12:35] <pitti> you do to have the X11 display and active == True there
[12:37] <bigon> well by manually I mean add it in the pam file of the service shipped by the pkg's instead of common-session
[12:37] <bigon> so we could really control how this module is called
[12:37] <pitti> it isn't?
[12:38] <bigon> you mean?
[12:38] <pitti> $ cat /etc/pam.d/lightdm|grep ck_con
[12:38] <pitti> $
[12:38] <bigon> ah
[12:38] <bigon> common-session:sessionoptionalpam_ck_connector.so nox11
[12:38] <pitti> well, it includes common-session of course
[12:38]  * bigon cannot read
[12:38] <pitti> so lightdm still loads it
[12:39] <pitti> but I guess I misunderstood you
[12:39] <bigon> true, but other non login services may also load it
[12:39] <bigon> (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677288 BTW)
[12:39] <ubot2> Debian bug 677288 in libpam-runtime "libpam-runtime: Please add pam-auth-update support for loading module in login services" [Wishlist,Open]
[12:40] <bigon> the thing is that pam_ck_connector required to be loaded after pam_loginuid
[12:40] <sil2100> jdstrand: I'll try in a moment
[12:41] <jdstrand> thanks!
[12:41] <bigon> I'm trying to understand why that module has been added to the session-common instead of the individual pam service file
[12:41] <bigon> (which looks more sensible to be)
[12:43] <bigon> the two issue I see with it beiing in session-common are: 1) ordering issue with loginuid 2) it could start a new CK session when this is not inteded
[12:43] <pitti> bigon: because those are conffiles
[12:43] <pitti> which libpam-ck-connector cannot modify
[12:43] <bigon> fedora solved this by using -session optional pam_ck_connector.so
[12:43] <pitti> it can only update common-session{,-noninteractive} through pam-auth-update
[12:44] <pitti> /usr/share/pam-configs/consolekit
[12:44] <bigon> the - meaning that it doesn't fail if the module is not loaded (no loggin, nothing)
[12:44] <bigon> logging
[12:45] <pitti> hm, not sure whether pam-auth-update has a mode for this, to prepend a -
[12:45] <pitti> that's a question for slangasek
[12:47] <bigon> I've already discussed this a but with slangasek, the outcome was the bug 677288 in debian
[12:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 677288 in linuxmint "Linux Mint freezes when connecting the wireless" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677288
[12:47] <bigon> arf
[12:48] <bigon> I justs wanted to know what was the rational of the call being in -common, I was a bit confused actually of when the module should be called
[12:48] <pitti> it's mostly conffile vs. pam-auth-update managed
[12:49] <bigon> yeah I see know
[12:49] <pitti> we could drop the latter, but then woudl have to adjust the conffiles of eveyrthing in the archive which touches PAM sessions
[12:49] <bigon> we might have to do that to add loginuid calls
[12:50] <bigon> as said CK requires this too
[12:50] <bigon> to set a proper "login-session-id" (see ck-list-sessions)
[12:54] <bigon> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=676527 and all the bloking bugs
[12:54] <ubot2> Debian bug 676527 in auditd "auditd package shouldn't add pam_loginuid.so in common-session(-interactive)" [Normal,Open]
[12:55] <sil2100> jdstrand: so, on natty the previous fix was not enough? The one in -security?
[13:13] <jdstrand> sil2100: that is correct
[13:25] <dpm> hi kenvandine, I'll create the "Social Networking" page on d.u.c and then I think we're good to go to publish the tutorial. I've done a few edits and I've added 'Conclusion' and 'Learn more' sections to be consistent with the structure of other tutorials on the site. Would you mind adding a few words to the conclusion and seeing if there is anything else we might want to add to 'Learn more'?
[13:27] <kenvandine> dpm, sure... i did tweak it a little more last night and i went ahead and published it :)
[13:27] <kenvandine> so i could give the link to a couple people that have been asking
[13:29] <dpm> kenvandine, sure, but the link will change once the social networking page is published, though. It will no longer be under multimedia/, but social-networking/ - you'll need to update them on that
[13:29] <kenvandine> dpm, i changed the link too :)
[13:29] <kenvandine> i saw you had created the category
[13:29] <kenvandine> thx for adding the screenshots!
[13:29] <dpm> no worries :)
[13:29] <kenvandine> and the bzr instructions :-D
[13:30] <dpm> ;)
[13:30] <kenvandine> nice, you highlighted the code i added... cool
[13:30] <kenvandine> didn't know you could do that
[13:31] <dpm> yeah, I've been working a bit on it this morning, and running the tutorial myself to check everything we write we can actually run :)
[13:31] <kenvandine> dpm, how bad is it if we both edit at the same time?  wordpress isn't as cool as google docs is it?
[13:31]  * kenvandine will wait for the can edit token :)
[13:32] <dpm> kenvandine, you should be good to go, I've finished editing. But Wordpress wants me to close the tab, just a sec :)
[13:51] <kenvandine> sorry dpm!
[13:51] <dpm> kenvandine, lol, no worries, I was about to mention if you had ever heard of pastebin.ubuntu.com ;)
[14:05] <dpm> kenvandine, ok, all pages are now live http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-developer-cookbook/social-networking/ \o/
[14:06] <kenvandine> woot
[14:06] <kenvandine> thx dpm
[14:07] <dpm> good work kenvandine
[14:07] <kenvandine> thx dpm
[14:08] <kenvandine> thanks for all the help and nagging :)
[14:12] <dpm> ;)
[15:40] <seb128> kenvandine, do you know about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/1005677
[15:40] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1005677 in qt4-x11 "Re-emergence of "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)'"" [High,Confirmed]
[15:40] <seb128> kenvandine, skaet is asking about it
[15:40] <seb128> kenvandine, seems overlay-scrollbar related, I think you discussed similar issues with the u1 guys recently?
[16:11] <kenvandine> yeah
[16:11] <kenvandine> seb128, ^^
[17:21] <seb128> kenvandine, yeah, it's being worked on? or yeah ...? ;-
[17:21] <seb128> ;-)
[17:22] <kenvandine> yeah i think it is similar to the other bug
[17:22] <kenvandine> i assigned it to cimi
[17:22] <kenvandine> :)
[17:22] <seb128> kenvandine, like we assigned him gtk bug and got them ignored, or did you get him to agree to look at it? ;-)
[17:24] <kenvandine> no agreement... so you know... :-/
[18:11] <roaksoax> hey guys I was wondering what package contains the Ubuntu presentation templates for LIbreOFfice impress?
[19:39] <dobey> hmm, no mterry