[06:24] i managed to make a X.509 certificate and enroll it as PK [06:25] then i made a sub-certificate and signed it, then used it to make a software publisher certificate [06:25] then i signed HelloWorldSigned.efi with the spc and my sub-certificate private key [06:25] and............. it doesn't work [06:32] enrolling both the PK and the Kek manually doesn't work either [06:39] thats a shame ali1234 [06:39] is it a bug in the tiano stuff? [06:40] i don't know [06:40] i suspect it's because i signed with sha1 hash instead of sha256 but the linux tools only support sha1 or md5 [06:40] so i have no idea how i'm supposed to sign with sha256 [06:41] googling suggests EFI is supposed to support sha1 though [06:41] so i don't know [06:43] openssl should support sha256 [06:43] yes but signcode is some mono thing [06:44] maybe it does support sha256 and they just didn't mention it in the man page [06:45] [ERROR] FATAL UNHANDLED EXCEPTION: System.ArgumentException: Invalid Authenticode hash algorithm [06:45] that would be a no then [06:46] morning all [06:46] so if it is a mono thing, why is it a different tool on linux to windows? [06:47] good question [06:47] makecert is identical [06:47] there is no SignTool.exe for linux afaict [06:47] i suspect that signcode is out of date, replaced by signtool, but makecert was never updated [06:47] ah right, signcode is deprecated, signtool is the new hotness [06:48] signcode uses these spc files [06:48] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8s9b9yaz%28VS.80%29.aspx doesn't mention sha256 [06:49] and signtool uses the other thing ... [06:49] PFX [06:49] but i bet they do a similar thing [06:49] SPC at least allows you to specify multiple certificates, so i think that is the key for getting multiple trust chains to work [06:50] so i need pvk2pfx.exe and SignTool.exe [06:50] AlanBell: that's a broken link === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [06:54] AlanBell: my notes so far: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UEFI [06:56] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/770711/whats-the-main-difference-between-signcode-exe-and-signtool-exe [06:56] yeah [06:56] i already knew that :) [06:56] .spc can contain multiple certificates though [06:59] Grr, stupid Natwest online banking [06:59] maybe they had certificate problems :( [07:03] hey [07:15] ali1234: If you're having cert problems I feel bad for you son. I have 99 problems but a key ain't one :P [07:15] * Seeker` groans [07:16] Seeker`: is it Friday yet? :) [07:16] YES! [07:16] then it's allowed :P [07:16] not going to work today though [07:16] I wonder how many more holes my upstairs neighbor can drill before his appartment crashes down on him [07:16] 6 [07:16] Seeker`: I sincerely hope so [07:17] He's been drilling holes almost 24/7 for years now [07:17] If anybody here works for NatWest, please hurry up and fix your banking systems [07:17] heh [07:17] MartijnVdS: gotta get down on friiiidaaaaaay, everybody's looking forward to the weekend weekend [07:18] ali1234: *\\o o//* [07:50] ali1234: I read a conspiracy theory recently that that particular song is about the late US president JFK. [07:50] have you ever actually heard it? [07:50] it's not about anything [07:51] it's not even about friday [07:51] ali1234: yeah, it's just a frivolous song about the weekend, I imagine [07:51] I suspect the lyrics are about as deep as what remains of my coffee [08:11] morn all o/ [08:12] morning [08:12] hiya [08:12] morning [08:12] morning [08:15] \o [08:20] Gooooooood mornings :) [08:22] Morning mrevell [08:22] Hi bigcalm [08:23] mrevell: have you installed the stable release of CM 7.2 on your phone? [08:23] bigcalm, I'm not sure what version I had on the Desire. It wasn't particularly stable, though. Gave up and bought an iPhone instead :) [08:23] Haha [08:23] \o/ iPhone club! [08:23] :) [08:24] * bigcalm shakes his head [08:24] It's 4 bins popey! [08:24] Haven't looked back [08:24] yup [08:24] fed up of my android phone but don't want an iphone, fear i may have to get a windows phone :( [08:25] what's bad about android? [08:25] Crumbs, isn't that a bit "bite off your nose to spite your face" gord? :) [08:25] gord: they are asking for people to test ubuntu for android [08:25] "Out For Delivery" I wonder what that could mean ;) [08:26] android just has a whole bunch of small things that bug me and i've found that i don't care if there is a large amount of apps available because i barely use any anyway [08:26] gord: maybe those small things would be fixed if you tried CyanogenMod 7.2 on it [08:26] AlanBell, we are? [08:27] I completely agree with gord [08:27] popey: again, AlanBell knows more than Canonical employees ;) [08:27] guy next to me here has a galaxy nexus [08:27] bigcalm, Samsung Galaxy S 3? [08:27] nperry: oooo, maybe :D [08:27] the video playback app is awful [08:28] but the android youtube app is flawless [08:28] popey: http://webmink.com/2012/06/20/help-test-ubuntu-for-android/ [08:28] bigcalm, enjoy it - my girlfriend has one.. I've gave up trying to convince her my samsung galaxy s 2 is better and she can have my s2 while I have her s3.. [08:28] i do enjoy that from android opening a youtube link i can choose to open in xbmc and it shows up on my tv :) [08:28] nperry: haha [08:29] ooh, hadn't seen that [08:29] nperry: what makes the s2 better than the s3? (apart from looks) [08:30] bigcalm: it is slightly cheaper and has the words "don't panic" written on it in big friendly letters [08:30] The screen is so much better outside. [08:31] The S2 I struggle to see a lot when its sunny. Thank god I live in England though. [08:31] AlanBell: bwuhahaha [08:31] A quite practical consideration put me off the S3 and many of the other hot Android phones. It probably hasn't escaped the attention of those who've met me that I am not a large bloke. I want a phone that fits in one hand comfortably. [08:31] nperry: yeah, don't really see that being a problem in the UK ;) [08:32] mrevell, get some steroids injected into your hand.. [08:32] mrevell: having a big heart makes up for your diminutive stature [08:32] One freakishly muscular hand might actually make that harder. [08:33] bigcalm, Who said I had a big heart? :) [08:33] Would be a good experiment. [08:35] Google Plus has just told me it is no panty day... [08:36] I'll brb. [08:36] ಠ_ಠ [08:36] Morning all [08:37] popey, Doesn't everyone have four bins :S [08:37] seems not [08:37] Ah, Wiltshire has had four for the last year or so. [08:37] nperry: what? no panty days? [08:38] MartijnVdS, seems that way. [08:38] nperry: what does this tell us about Wiltshire? [08:38] They are infront of the times. [08:38] Wiltshire lead the way. [08:40] nperry: Running out of room like me [08:40] :( [08:40] Some of my neighbours have 5+ bins [08:40] I have same amount of children and get by with 1 grey bin, some have 2 to 2 1/2 [08:41] We have five bins, one normal, one garden, one plastic & cardboard, one paper box and one glass box. [08:41] i have SIX bins [08:41] Damn, I was hoping not to have to ask this year - Emergency help required - What do I get my sister for her 35th birthday? [08:41] nperry: Glass box? [08:42] Our paper/glass go in the same one [08:42] bigcalm: a cake. [08:42] They started off wanting paper/glass in seperate boxes then stopped that.. So we have two black boxes [08:42] All depends what she is into, my sister rides / owns horses and pretty much always get her a gift to do with that [08:43] MartijnVdS: she lives 150 miles away [08:43] Council said they'd pick them up. [08:43] bigcalm, a card then. [08:43] Oh, I'm in Trowbridge.. still collect both in one here [08:43] nperry: well, a card will happen anyway [08:43] diplo, I local person o/ [08:43] Annoyingly she doesn't have an amazon wishlist [08:43] *hi [08:44] bigcalm, amazon giftcard then :D [08:44] Let me guess, Swindon area? [08:44] diplo, No Warminster [08:44] That's what my brother always goes for, and ah right... bloody close then :) [08:44] nperry: trying to avoid vouchers [08:46] Her birthday is on the 27th June, but we'll be visiting her after the RAT on 15th July. Could I get away with a late gift [08:46] yeah bigcalm [08:46] If its big, yes. [08:46] My family are months late on giving gifts, doesn't matter at this age really does it [08:47] I didn't get anything this year from my brother/sister [08:47] Ug. Why can't Farnham be a little closer to Salisbury? [08:48] heh [08:49] * AlanBell things Farnham is in the right place and Salisbury should come closer [08:50] Hotel booked for 2 nights in Farnham (RAT related). Visiting sister in Salisbury on the Sunday afternoon and then back to the hotel [08:50] Ah well, I grumble too much ;) [08:51] RAT ticket is an ideal 35th birthday present :) [08:51] Haha [08:51] problem solved [08:51] hmm, i am yet to purchase RAT ticket [08:52] As far as I can tell, neither her or her boyfriend are into ale [08:52] Daviey: cutting it a bit fine... [08:52] Daviey: erk, they are now sold out to September [08:52] bigcalm: with the 6X brewery piratically on their doorstep, i am most disappointed [08:53] AlanBell: bugger. [08:53] \o/ I have a ticket [08:53] popey: super, do you want to give it to me on the day, post it, or meet up sooner? [08:54] :D [08:55] Unrelated, i'm liking these http headers .. X-Country: GB , X-Population: 1 [08:56] popey: not coming to the RAT? [08:56] \o/ I have a ticket [08:56] Daviey! [08:56] popey: good :D [08:56] mgdm: ! [08:56] Daviey: ltns :) [08:57] mgdm: thankfully :) [08:57] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1603/detail/ you can add a comment to say you are going [08:57] AlanBell: care to arrnage me a ticket, kkthnx :) [08:57] and those who failed to take my advice to book tickets well in advance can still come to the BBQ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1824/detail/ [08:57] no tickets required :) [08:58] 3 Alan's are going?! [08:58] yep [08:58] 3 popey's! [08:58] golly [08:59] is christel coming on the RAT? [08:59] AlanBell: I believe so, yes [08:59] Daviey: :P [09:00] AlanBell: and Byrn_S [09:00] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1603/detail/ \o/ comment left [09:00] https://code.launchpad.net/~alanbell/compiz/fix930783/+merge/110791 approved \o/ [09:01] popey: for a moment there I thought you'd insitaged a Linux-based games console project ;) [09:01] are you going to Didcot, popey? [09:01] no [09:01] we used to go to the steam museum there when I was little [09:02] popey: Breakage! [09:02] AlanBell: I AM! [09:02] yay [09:02] Hi all, I appear to be having some issues with U1... Anyone know how to clear a PC and start again? [09:02] i must find my tickets [09:02] I would just really like to reiterate how poor IE is :( [09:02] christel: yippiee :) [09:02] because i dont think i have Unpacked them since moving [09:02] selinuxium, #ubuntuone [09:02] i think i'm going to start calling my steam games list the "steam museum", if only to validate the redonkulous number of games on it... [09:02] cheer popey [09:02] i have so many boxes still to unpack :( [09:03] Happy Friday, people! :-D [09:03] JamesTait: it will be when I take delivery in about an hour :D [09:04] bigcalm: Dare I ask what? [09:05] good morning everyone. [09:05] bigcalm: Is it fruit-themed and pastry-based? [09:05] christel: I've been in my current house 5 years in July, last month I got rid of the last box from moving 5 years ago \o/ [09:06] JamesTait: actually, an apple pie would trump what I'm expecting [09:06] haha [09:06] diplo, I moved into this house about 1 month and a week ago today... On the saturday the last box was out of the house. [09:06] * bigcalm ponders going to the bakery later [09:06] how on earth do you manage to unpack in just a month! [09:06] that is IMPOSSIBLE [09:07] I agree with christel [09:07] I did have a new born when I moved in and the wife was preggers again [09:07] Which craft! [09:07] So I just chucked 50% up in the loft [09:07] :) [09:07] Witchcraft! [09:07] I took the brave step of emptying my loft last month [09:07] 3 days!!!!! [09:07] haha [09:07] I do not recommend it [09:07] Hehe [09:07] 4 car loads of stuff dumped, I don't have a small car either [09:07] oh good point.. i do have a number of boxes that can go straight up in the loft actually [09:07] Zafira, front to back top to bottom [09:08] (mainly christmas decorations) [09:08] If it goes in the loft get rid of it :) [09:08] i probably do not need to leave them in the dining room [09:08] tho.. it is nearly christmas.. [09:08] My new mantra, apart from Xmas decs [09:08] isnt it? [09:08] sssh! [09:08] :) [09:08] My kids may hear [09:08] hehe [09:09] Xmas decorations and camping equipment live in our loft [09:09] oh yeah and camping stuff ( forgot that ) [09:09] i have several lofts [09:09] I've dumped pretty much every thing else [09:09] this house is so weird [09:10] the kitchen is an extension, which has a loft (which is handy) [09:10] and then upstairs in the older part of the house there's also a loft [09:10] and i have this enormous (awning? is that the word?) space just off the main bedroom [09:10] in the slopey thingie bit of the roof [09:11] which is probably bad for a hoarder like me as i will just fill them all rather than ever chuck anything away [09:11] :D [09:21] morning all [09:21] It's awful outside :( [09:21] Morning [09:23] MooDoo: me awld mucka, 'Ow am ya === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [09:25] Hi davmor2 [09:26] morning bigcalm how's sunny sunny TF10? [09:27] davmor2: overcast, bit windy. Expecting rain :) [09:27] davmor2: perfect summer weather [09:28] christel, We managed to do it becuase we threw away a lot before we moved. [09:28] bigcalm: I blame this http://ubuntuone.com/6gt0itZ5myMlzyHSZvQPwD [09:28] "Temporary maintenance" [09:28] davmor2: Temporary maintenance? [09:28] I DO BLAME THAT TEMPORARY MAINTENANCE!!! [09:29] I blame aquarius [09:29] bigcalm: D'oh it's hardware upgrade day [09:29] bigcalm: remind me to show it you latter [09:29] * Laney scowls at natwest [09:30] natwest closes Laney's account and keeps all his money as punishment for scowling [09:30] should've gone to barclays [09:30] brown envelope under the mattress [09:32] I've not considered switching to Natwest, they used to charge students for going a penny over their overdraft limit, just to send them a letter to inform them. [09:33] Charge customers for goign over their overdraft limit? How rude! [09:33] :) [09:33] dwatkins: hen i was a student, they sent me a default notice for being in my agreed overdraft limit... that is rude :) [09:34] I think Halifax's charges are bad... [09:34] yeah, I can understand them charging and so on, but if it's by a single penny, that's a bit petty - HSBC have a 50 quid buffer-zone [09:34] £1 for being in agreeed and £5 for being outside of agreed... per day! [09:35] also, it's 25 quid to just tell you you've gone overdrawn, which makes the problem much worse if you were only over by a little bit [09:35] well, this was the case in 1995, at least. [09:37] that's why they want ot bring back banking fees [09:37] so they don't have to rip you off w/ those other charges [09:37] personally, i'd rather let them keep ripping people off and not pay banking charges :P [09:37] (fees rather) [09:38] I just make sure I always have enough money in the bank [09:38] With a buffer [09:42] did someone want me? [09:49] hi folks [09:51] o/ [09:55] ok, i FINALLY have the windows 7 SDK installed so i can sign PE objects with signtool [09:56] remember when they said you'd be able to self-sign things to use secure boot? [09:56] turns out that doing so requires a copy of windows [09:58] ali1234: No shock horror, Microsoft make it so you need one of their products to sign one of their products with their product key who'd of thunk it [09:58] no, you need a microsoft operating system to sign anything with any key [09:59] so for example, suppose you want to use secure boot on your redhat server [09:59] ali1234: yes that would be their range of products and all the keys belong to microsoft that was kinda my point [09:59] and for some reason you need a custom kernel module [10:00] well, now you need a copy of windows to do that [10:02] for now [10:02] the signing format is known. there's no reason a free signing tool can't be written [10:03] yes, the specification is known [10:03] but allegedly the implementation does not match the specification [10:04] ali1234: oh shock horror, microsoft fail to stick to their own spec [10:12] ok, got a pfx file now [10:29] oh great, signtool doesn't even work [10:30] "Either the file being signed or one of the DLL specified by the /j switch is not a valid Win32 application." [10:38] hey guys, just found a site that's been compromised, with this JS at the bottom of the page: http://pastebin.com/dt1QYfJs [10:38] any clues? [10:39] clues? [10:39] westcountry.ru [10:39] andylockran: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/586610874 [10:43] thanks [10:46] https://github.com/vathpela/pesign/ hmm [10:46] looks like there is a linux tool, although it's still under development [10:51] Hmm dogmatic69, you have now made me want to make a PHP turn based name using cakephp... :( [10:53] nperry: how so? [10:53] Just seeing the cakephp... I was going to attempt to hack one up about six months ago. [10:56] Why with cakephp? [10:57] Lazy writing. [11:03] cakephp is awesome [11:03] So are other PHP frameworks ;) [11:04] * MartijnVdS cries about PHP being called awesome [11:05] * MartijnVdS hands out free copies of python [11:05] bigcalm: sorry php and awesome in the same sentence did you just bang your head? I've heard you cussing it to hell and back don't forget :D [11:06] davmor2: alcohol is a hell of a drug [11:08] * bigcalm shakes his head [11:08] MartijnVdS: I agree, thus going to the pub with Hayley tonight :D [11:11] bigcalm, would you recommend something else then? [11:11] nperry: for what? [11:11] nperry: no recommendations, just wondered why cakephp instead of other frame works [11:11] nperry: I use Symfony 1.4 a lot [11:12] I have only ever used Cake once, only instance of using a php framework. [11:12] it's good, but it's not quite django.. amirite? [11:13] We use CodeIgniter [11:13] heh, been meaning to try Django after a few people here mentioned it [11:13] I'm looking at syfony [11:16] Daviey, django would some fun... [11:18] justifying any other legacy framework is indefensible [11:19] django had suuuch a nice database model, i loved it. its been years since i used it though [11:19] Humm... This is torture. http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/news/missing-glastonbury-watch-the-guardians-live-stream [11:19] haha :) [11:20] gord: database schema migrations really make me cry with joy. [11:21] I didn't know it was used on pinterest etc [11:28] looks like i'm going to have to download windows 8 preview, then use that to download windows 8 sdk preview - probably to get the exact same result [11:28] i'll also have to download visual studio 12 RC [11:29] What I don't understand is where all these companies make money [11:29] what, pinterest? [11:30] it's simple: they don't [11:30] That's my thoughts :) [11:30] Costing them about $35 an hour to power it [11:31] I'm really feeling a chip lunch.. [11:33] ah, so they do have a plan of make money... see if it works [11:34] They do? [11:35] get lots of users, approach venture capital funding source, point to lots of users and business plan that shows profit prediction for about a year after the founders cash out [11:36] heh that awsmy thought AlanBell [11:36] But it seems that companies are making use of pinterest already for there products [11:37] And it seems that companys doing it direct will maybe be charged [11:37] Selling user data as well [11:37] Affiliate links etc [11:38] yeah, user data is pretty valuable [11:38] especially if you can do it well [11:38] also, even if you don't sell it you can sell incredibly well-targeted ad space [11:39] http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/lazman121212 [11:39] :D [11:39] irc spam :( [11:40] lazarus_: don't do that [11:40] aww i sowwie [11:40] and while you're at it, stop saying sowwie [11:40] * mattt hides [11:40] soiree? [11:40] nowwie [11:41] nicekiwi: I would give the adding the /whois lazarus_ [11:42] am i in trouble [11:42] I doubt it :) [11:50] https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=60758 [11:50] Oh! That's grown! [11:50] Wait, no, different bug :) [11:51] bigcalm: reddit.com/r/lolphp [11:52] ? [11:52] BigRedS: [11:52] I don't read reddit [11:52] bigcalm: wrong big :) [11:52] haha [11:52] MartijnVdS: yeah, I spent about a day in there a little while ago [11:52] Strikes again! [11:53] so I declined to subscribe :) [11:53] I guess you've seen https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=50696 ? [11:53] AlanBell: bug 1016430 is a go for me [11:53] Launchpad bug 1016430 in unity (Ubuntu) "launcher is not refreshed after user session switch" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016430 [11:54] BigRedS: yeah. :| [11:54] mousing over the unity bar clears it up though [11:54] dogmatic69: why me? [11:55] wrong one :/ [11:56] too many Alans :) [12:06] i keep testing 987485 and forgetting to clear print jobs and so now my printer just starts printing at random times every couple of days [12:06] It's ALIVE [12:08] it works perfectly as long as you don't mind waiting 36 hours between jobs [12:08] +/- 12 hours [12:09] lol [12:09] ali1234: you just need to schedule your life around that [12:10] meh. it's not like i ever print anything [12:10] except that i've printed about 100 pages of tests while testing various non-working fixes [12:11] anyone know any good vmware irc channels? [12:11] specifically for vsphere? [12:11]