[01:18] <wip> hi, what a story, just before my vacations i wanted to install ubuntu-studio but my superdrive (what a crap) was refusing to boot from the dvd!
[01:18] <wip> it turns out that it was the lens that was dirty...
[01:19] <wip> so now i am finally ready to install ubuntu studio! but now i am getting this message: Select CD-ROM boot type:
[01:19] <wip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacPro
[01:19] <wip> they say that i need a special version!?! of ubuntu what to do?
[02:13] <len-dt> wip, probablt start with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64+mac.iso and then try to drop ubuntustudio-desktop on top of that.
[02:15] <wip> len-dt: i would prefer a clean install, but maybe it's almost like a clean one?
[02:15] <wip> (i mean starting with 12.04-alternate and dropping studio on top)?
[02:16] <len-dt> Oops, that was the alt install, there is also (in the same dir) ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[02:16] <len-dt> I'm not sure which is best to start with. For just an install maybe the alt is best.
[02:17] <len-dt> If there was a xubuntu that would be closer.
[02:18] <len-dt> But they don't have the mac install
[02:20] <len-dt> wip, it should be pretty clean. All the stuff up till login will be the same. and if you select the ubuntustudio session you won't run the extra stuff ubuntu has in the session.
[02:20] <len-dt> the ubuntustudio-desktop should pull in the low latency kernel too.
[02:20] <wip> i will try to extract the iso and rebuild it...
[02:22] <len-dt> As always let us know how it goes.
[02:22] <wip> will do
[09:21] <jaimee> ola
[09:22] <jaimee> olaaa
[12:57] <sirriffsalot> May I recommend showing what side of the partitioning scaler will be the ubuntu studio install?:P
[12:57] <sirriffsalot> In the 12.04 version that is
[14:17] <astraljava> sirriffsalot: Could you elaborate a bit? I don't really understand what you're referring to.
[14:19] <zybiski> hi there
[15:37] <sirriffsalot> astraljava, well, the installer gives you the option of installing alongside another partition.. but when that size-configuration-pointer-mover-thing comes it doesn't tell what side is going to be the install location..
[15:47] <sirriffzalot> I've now shrunk my /dev/sda1 (windows) partition, and now there are three partitions, the middle one being empty.. Is there a way to merge the empty one with the ubuntustudio one?:P
[15:49] <rachelg> so, idiot question but I looked around on the Internet and wasn't sure.
[15:49] <rachelg> Is Ubuntu Studio still being actively developed?
[15:50] <sirriffzalot> rachelg, why is that an idiot question..?
[15:50] <sirriffzalot> Yes it is
[15:52] <sirriffzalot> Oh lol
[15:52] <sirriffzalot> rachelg, yes it is being actively developed
[15:53] <sirriffzalot> rachelg, 12.04 is released in studio-form:P
[15:54] <astraljava> Sorry, a little preoccupied with the release meeting and phone calls. rachelg, Studio is still developed, though for quantal we don't seem to get anything done.
[15:54] <astraljava> sirriffzalot: You can file bugs against ubiquity, that's really not Studio-specific at all.
[15:55] <sirriffzalot> astraljava, uhm ok. Can you help me with the gparted issue though?:P
[15:56] <astraljava> sirriffzalot: Yes, you can make size adjustments to the Studio partition. I forget how it is used, and since I don't have any empty partitions, I can't give a hands-on examples, but there should be a way to enlarge it as there is empty space in the disk.
[15:56] <rachelg> Sorry, the project looked a little abandoned lol.
[15:57] <rachelg> http://ubuntustudio.org/news
[15:57] <sirriffzalot> astraljava, experimenting then:)
[15:57] <astraljava> rachelg: Yeah, the website is going to have a facelift sometime soon, though I cannot give an ETA as it seems to take ages, as with anything we engage with these days. :)
[15:58] <rachelg> Well as long as it works :3 I'm gonna try installing it via Wubi for now.
[15:58] <rachelg> ...if that's possible.
[15:59] <astraljava> I don't think we support Wubi, sorry.
[15:59] <sirriffzalot> rachelg, it works fantastically now
[16:00] <sirriffzalot> astraljava, by the way, with ubuntu studio 11.10 I tried the command "alsa_in -dhw:1" for jack, but it would crash with infinite delay=xxx messages, and if I would try to do the command I'd get hw input/output error etc...
[16:00] <rachelg> aww that's a bummer sirriffzalot :p I was hoping to out-cool my Mac friend
[16:01] <sirriffzalot> rachelg, Mac isn't cool at all, no brains just money:P
[16:01] <sirriffzalot> In my humble opinion
[16:01] <astraljava> sirriffzalot: I'm really not very educated with the apps we ship, I just try to tie them together. Sorry, you're gonna have to ask someone else. :)
[16:01] <sirriffzalot> Consumer lock-in too..
[16:01] <sirriffzalot> astraljava, alright, going livecd to do this partitioning thing anyway, cheers for all the help!!
[16:01] <rachelg> I agree, but it's peer pressure. If you graphics design, you must have a Mac.
[16:01] <astraljava> Yeah well, their policies and business models don't belong to this channel, thanks.
[16:02] <rachelg> ...or if you starbucks :p What desktop environment...?
[16:03] <astraljava> rachelg: In graphics (and video) we're unfortunately far behind Macs and Windows. Tips and contributions are warmly welcome.
[16:03] <rachelg> Does Wine run Photoshop...decently?
[16:04] <astraljava> rachelg: I wouldn't know, but winehq site has the apps catalogue, you can check there before you make any purchases.
[16:07] <rachelg> astraljava: purchase? Oh right, purchase. It looks like I can run, but not install, Illustrator...
[16:08] <astraljava> It's not perfect, but works for some cases.
[16:43] <rachelg> aww. I guess emulating Windows wouldn't exactly be fast, either.
[17:39] <astraljava> Emulating Windows. Where did that come from?
[19:13] <DudeSpud> wine
[19:15] <astraljava> But that's not emulating.
[19:19] <Unit193> Wine == WINE Is Not an Emulator.
[19:20] <rachelg> I meant actually emulating this time... with VirtualBox etc
[19:20] <rachelg> but that wouldn't be fas.t
[19:24] <DudeSpud> wnay it wouldnt
[19:24] <astraljava> That'd be virtualization, not emulation. :) And the guest OSs usually aren't that much slower.
[19:24] <rachelg> much? But it IS windows.
[19:25] <rachelg> ...and then using Linux wouldn't really be worth the fast.
[19:25] <rachelg> feels bad man
[19:27] <astraljava> I'm sorry, I don't follow.
[19:29] <rachelg> well, the whole purpose behind linux vs mac was saying it could run the processor-intensive programs too :p