| DomasoFan | hi guys. anyone knows if sound is currently broken in the ubuntu 12.10 daily builds? | 15:10 |
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| AlanBell | hi DomasoFan | 15:15 |
| AlanBell | DomasoFan: I am running quantal that I upgraded a couple of days ago, I will update it and check sounds | 15:16 |
| DomasoFan | AlanBell: i guess i used yesterdays build but that seems to have no sound or something. currently downloading the iso from today. tested in VirtualBox. | 15:18 |
| AlanBell | I have sound | 15:20 |
| DomasoFan | AlanBell: hmm. strange. its still the same activation way? waiting until the drums then hitting ctrl+s. | 15:21 |
| AlanBell | DomasoFan: yeah, should be | 15:21 |
| AlanBell | I actually did a do-release-upgrade from precise, but a few weeks ago I installed in virtualbox and it was the same | 15:22 |
| DomasoFan | AlanBell: hmm. let's see. the iso is now downloaded. | 15:22 |
| AlanBell | plus I did reinforce to everyone at UDS how important the drums were at that point# | 15:22 |
| DomasoFan | AlanBell: hmm. seems orca comes up and all things but no sound in virtualbox. using the default ac97 card. | 15:28 |
| DomasoFan | AlanBell: i also tried to increase the volume or mute/unmute the card. but nothing. i have some buttons on the keyboard which i can use for that which ubuntu seems to recognize. | 15:31 |
| DomasoFan | AlanBell: just also tested with the intel hd audio card which also seems not to work. interesting. | 15:35 |
| AlanBell | DomasoFan: I will try an install later from todays iso | 15:43 |
| DomasoFan | AlanBell: thanks. wonder how it will do over there. | 15:45 |
| AlanBell | it should now have the fix I did to bug 1010179 | 15:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1010179 in ubiquity "orca reads "replace windows with Ubuntu" when windows was not installed" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010179 | 15:46 |
| DomasoFan | so. back. | 17:33 |
| DomasoFan | so. dear ubuntu, when you don't want to run from the daily iso then you are getting upgraded. *lol*. downloading around 400 mb of stuff. let's see afterwards if it still boots. | 18:36 |
| AlanBell | DomasoFan: just booted todays 12.10 CD and got a low volume slider position and no actual sound | 19:52 |
| AlanBell | and just tried 12.04 and got sound | 19:52 |
| AlanBell | ok, I will file a bug and harass people about this one | 19:52 |
| DomasoFan | AlanBell: i now updated my 12.04 install to 12.10. seems to work. | 19:53 |
| AlanBell | yeah, the upgrade is fine | 19:53 |
| AlanBell | just the daily image boots silent | 19:53 |
| DomasoFan | AlanBell: yeah | 19:53 |
| DomasoFan | AlanBell: also ubuntu 3d seems to do its job now quite responsively | 19:54 |
| AlanBell | bug 1016969 | 20:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1016969 in ubiquity "daily live cd boots silent in virtualbox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016969 | 20:08 |
| DomasoFan | AlanBell: thanks. you are all doing a great job. | 20:10 |
| AlanBell | DomasoFan: I can get audio on the ubiquity screen, but I had to use the mouse | 20:12 |
| AlanBell | I couldn't get to the top panel using alt+f10 | 20:12 |
| AlanBell | so with the mouse I clicked on the sound indicator then sound settings | 20:13 |
| AlanBell | then changed the connector dropdown from analog mono to one of the LFE options | 20:13 |
| AlanBell | but I can't give a keyboard sequence for doing that | 20:13 |
| DomasoFan | yeah that could be difficult. i also guess that can change from system to system when you have that on a real machine. | 20:18 |
| AlanBell | probably. I expect this is a transitional thing, but I will poke people about this one, sound working was supposed to be a basic smoke test for the daily isos | 20:20 |
| DomasoFan | here on my updated laptop i seem to be able to access the menus with alt+f10 | 20:20 |
| DomasoFan | sure. sighted people sometimes forget about things they don't need. *smile* | 20:21 |
| DomasoFan | or which they don't need yet. | 20:21 |
| AlanBell | might just be that in virtualbox the hud or something is stealing the alt key | 20:21 |
| DomasoFan | normally it should work. i did that once on virtualbox too and it worked. i have the right ctrl key for the host key. | 20:22 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I am sure it used to work, lets see if it works in 12.04 | 20:23 |
| AlanBell | no, it doesn't | 20:24 |
| DomasoFan | oops. interesting. hmm. | 20:25 |
| DomasoFan | wonder which issue that is. but i guess in the OS itself it seemed to work as i tested that. but that was a while ago. | 20:27 |
| AlanBell | not sure, it might still be a virtualbox bug rather than a bug in the guest operating system | 20:29 |
| DomasoFan | yeah that also could be the case. | 20:29 |
| DomasoFan | i like it loads that also ubuntu is now a quite good alternative to windows. thats good competition. | 20:35 |
| DomasoFan | if someone is interested: football EM 2012: spain france 2:0. | 20:37 |
| AlanBell | Pendulum and myself are doing a user days session in #ubuntu-classroom in a couple of minutes | 20:56 |
| AlanBell | and #ubuntu-classroom-chat for questions | 20:56 |
| AlanBell | it is on accessibility | 20:56 |
| DomasoFan | i am unfortunately not around in a few minutes. will there be a log? | 20:57 |
| Pendulum | yes | 20:59 |
| DomasoFan | good. goodbye. | 21:00 |
| genii-around | AlanBell, Pendulum .. most excellent classroom session, thank you. | 22:03 |
| AlanBell | thanks genii-around | 22:03 |
| AlanBell | was that AAC thing the kind of thing you were thinking of? | 22:04 |
| genii-around | AlanBell: My friend who was afflicted with ALS ( Lou Gehrig's disease ) went through many types of alternate input devices as he degraded. The first ones were things like over-size switches you mount on the desk when you have less motor control ( to be a mouse button, etc). Then alternate type pointing devices very much like joysticks. Eventually symbolic keyboards ( some of which interfaced to a computer by USB, others standalone | 22:08 |
| genii-around | ARM-based ). In the end it was eye-tracking devices, again USB based. | 22:08 |
| genii-around | Unfortunately, many of the devices were of course provided only with mainstream drivers or software. He was an avid Linux fan and I regretted at the time the lack of help in this area. | 22:10 |
| AlanBell | first accessibility thing I ever did was about 20 years ago, putting in a suite of classroom computers, there was one girl in a wheelchair who couldn't use a mouse, every time she clicked the mouse moved and missed what she was aiming at | 22:11 |
| AlanBell | so I ripped apart one of the mice and took it to the technology department and built a switch she could use with her left hand, wired up to the left mouse button | 22:12 |
| AlanBell | click with the left hand, control with the right hand, worked great | 22:12 |
| AlanBell | we looked at joysticks and things (the wheelchair was joystick controlled) but there were no mouse drivers for joysticks at the time | 22:13 |
| genii-around | Yes, at that time there was something called "joymouse" in Windows which i could not find the equivelent of | 22:16 |
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