TheLordOfTime | whats the name for the metapackage that installs all the packaging related tools? | 01:14 |
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Laney | TheLordOfTime: I guess you mean packaging-dev | 09:01 |
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PriceChild | !ops | 14:12 |
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PriceChild | !ops | 14:16 |
PriceChild | kline me | 14:16 |
* tumbleweed has no idea why anyone would want to be banned | 14:16 | |
PriceChild | i do! i get high easily | 14:17 |
tumbleweed | I suppose we al have odd persuits... | 14:17 |
IdleOne | Pricey: if you could remove your troll self :) | 14:18 |
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tumbleweed | ah, normality | 14:19 |
PaoloRotolo | Hi all! | 14:39 |
scarneiro | PaoloRotolo: Hi | 15:16 |
PaoloRotolo | scarneiro, hi! | 15:18 |
TheLordOfTime | can i use Lintian on Ubuntu to check for lintian cleanliness for a Debian-destined package? | 15:47 |
jbicha | TheLordOfTime: yes, lintian on Debian and lintian on Ubuntu is basically the same | 15:52 |
TheLordOfTime | jbicha: so i pretty much just need to run Lintian on the package to find whether its lintian clean, and fix any warnings and/or errors that arise? | 15:52 |
jbicha | yes, being lintian clean is important :) | 15:53 |
TheLordOfTime | definitely | 15:54 |
TheLordOfTime | i once had a package that was lintian unclean by only one error, and that error was i forgot to change the standards number xD | 15:54 |
TheLordOfTime | and they were like "You're x.x. 1 behind in the standards number, fix it" | 15:55 |
tumbleweed | sponsoring is an opportunity to teach, so many of us tend to be pretty pedantic sponsors | 16:02 |
TheLordOfTime | indeed | 16:02 |
TheLordOfTime | although having said this, the debian people rejected a package even though it was lintian clean because they "Didn't agree with the way the source was run after installation" | 16:03 |
TheLordOfTime | so.. i kinda gave up on trying to get packages into Debian (then again, i havent had any need to get anything into Debian lately, so... :P) | 16:03 |
tumbleweed | was it totally crazy? | 16:04 |
TheLordOfTime | source code without any compiled executable (because the entire thing was 100% python...) | 16:05 |
TheLordOfTime | so... | 16:05 |
TheLordOfTime | *shurgs* | 16:05 |
TheLordOfTime | probably, although its irrelevant now | 16:05 |
tumbleweed | did the sponsor have any experience with python? | 16:06 |
tumbleweed | every DD has their own requirements and foibles | 16:06 |
TheLordOfTime | i know right? | 16:07 |
TheLordOfTime | don't know, but idc anymore :P | 16:07 |
jbicha | Debian teams are awesome, if you can find a team that would be interested in your package | 16:08 |
jbicha | it makes sponsorship easier and reduces the MIA Debian maintainer problem | 16:09 |
tumbleweed | team-maintained packages++ | 16:10 |
TheLordOfTime | ^ that | 16:12 |
TheLordOfTime | but i digress :P | 16:12 |
AmberJ | Err... this is weird. Upstream compiles fine if I run: 'cmake .' and then 'make'. But if fails on PPA as well as locally (when using debuild). | 18:42 |
AmberJ | Here's the PPA buildlog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1055180/ (please scroll down to line 3883) | 18:42 |
AmberJ | I don't understand why the build exits with error when using debuild. It builds fine when using 'make'. | 18:42 |
AmberJ | (Timezone repost) | 18:43 |
Yankees52 | !ops | 18:59 |
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Yankees52 | please! | 18:59 |
Yankees52 | !staff | 19:00 |
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Yankees52 | !ops | 19:00 |
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Yankees52 | please! | 19:00 |
* iulian sighs. | 19:00 | |
Yankees52 | lucas: ban me | 19:00 |
Yankees52 | yay ban coming! | 19:00 |
bazhang | Yankees52, lets stop this | 19:00 |
directhex | i'm confused. | 19:02 |
james_w | AmberJ, could it be a gcc version difference? | 19:07 |
james_w | looking at opencog-0.1/opencog/learning/moses/main/moses_exec.cc:828 might give some clues | 19:08 |
AmberJ_ | james_w, you mean the build breaking maybe because of using a different version of gcc/g++? | 19:11 |
james_w | AmberJ, yeah, possibly | 19:11 |
AmberJ_ | Unfortunately, I'm unable to understand what is wrong with 828 of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~opencog-dev/opencog/trunk/view/head:/opencog/learning/moses/main/moses_exec.cc | 19:11 |
AmberJ_ | james_w, I tried building in the same VM... The build breaks with debuild but works fine when manually using cmake/make. (I guess same VM/install cannot have two different versions of gcc) | 19:13 |
james_w | AmberJ, it might be something in the environment then | 19:13 |
AmberJ_ | Not sure if this is the cause but I noticed something... The debuild build breaks when I manually copy orig.tar.gz and debian/ from another repo. The same debuild build works fine if I use 'bzr dh-make' for debianization.. | 19:15 |
AmberJ_ | I thought that 'bzr dh-make' only creates orig.tar.gz and copies template debian/ files.... but it seems ot | 19:16 |
AmberJ_ | *but it seems that it (i.e. bzr dh-make) is doing something else as well... Maybe doing with build environment as you suggest) | 19:17 |
* AmberJ_ is reading dh_make source | 19:19 | |
james_w | AmberJ_, might it be that MOSES_BZR_REVNO has no value when it breaks? | 19:25 |
james_w | hmm, doesn't sound right though | 19:25 |
james_w | but yeah, that error doesn't seem to have much to do with the file as you say | 19:25 |
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TheLordOfTime | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1056521/ <-- anyone able to tell me what's missing? i told the system to use all the components | 20:27 |
TheLordOfTime | COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse" <-- defined in ~/.pbuilderrc | 20:28 |
TheLordOfTime | for all users | 20:28 |
jtaylor | TheLordOfTime: try with PBUILDERSATISFYDEPENDSCMD="/usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends-gdebi" in .pbuilderrc | 20:29 |
jtaylor | it gives better error messages in my experience | 20:29 |
TheLordOfTime | bleh, pbuilder base got purged | 20:31 |
* TheLordOfTime is not pleased | 20:31 | |
TheLordOfTime | (the base.tgz) | 20:31 |
TheLordOfTime | will that base be rebuilt when i specify distribution 'quantal' instead of precise or when i specify 'natty'? | 20:31 |
jtaylor | yes | 20:32 |
TheLordOfTime | good | 20:32 |
jtaylor | use pbuilder-dist for easy multi distributions | 20:32 |
jtaylor | or set BASETGZ/BASEPATH appropriately | 20:33 |
TheLordOfTime | jtaylor: This package is uninstallable | 20:43 |
TheLordOfTime | Dependency is not satisfiable: debhelper (>= 7.0.50~) | 20:43 |
TheLordOfTime | so... | 20:44 |
TheLordOfTime | not sure what its on about... | 20:45 |
TheLordOfTime | (since this is being caused by the 'juju' source package from quantal) | 20:45 |
TheLordOfTime | and juju's in main, if this is triggered in Quantal, bad things'll happen | 20:46 |
TheLordOfTime | jtaylor: still around? | 20:49 |
jtaylor | TheLordOfTime: debhelper 7 not available in quantal? | 20:49 |
jtaylor | unlikely | 20:49 |
TheLordOfTime | jtaylor: <ubottu> debhelper (source: debhelper): helper programs for debian/rules. In component main, is optional. Version 9.20120419ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 594 kB, installed size 966 kB | 20:49 |
TheLordOfTime | so... | 20:49 |
TheLordOfTime | not sure wth's going on | 20:49 |
jtaylor | just use pbuilder-dist | 20:50 |
TheLordOfTime | and that's with a pbuilder-dist quantal create | 20:50 |
TheLordOfTime | jtaylor: i *did* i was just typing that | 20:50 |
TheLordOfTime | so unless pbuilder's gone wonky and is bugged | 20:50 |
TheLordOfTime | pbuilder-dist * | 20:50 |
jtaylor | can you login and install the dependencies? | 20:50 |
TheLordOfTime | pbuilder-dist quantal login --save-after-login right? | 20:53 |
TheLordOfTime | ah there it is | 20:54 |
TheLordOfTime | jtaylor: i'm going to edit the debian/control | 20:54 |
TheLordOfTime | i think the ~ is throwing it off (its yelling at python, ended with a ~ too) | 20:55 |
TheLordOfTime | I: Installing the build-deps | 20:55 |
TheLordOfTime | This package is uninstallable | 20:55 |
TheLordOfTime | Dependency is not satisfiable: python (>= 2.6.6-3~) | 20:55 |
TheLordOfTime | unless pbuilder-dist is literally broken | 20:55 |
TheLordOfTime | unless you're willing to do me a favor and try to build juju in Quantal yourself | 20:56 |
TheLordOfTime | (its directly synced from Debian, so i wonder if its breaking) | 20:56 |
TheLordOfTime | even installing python myself doesnt fix it | 20:57 |
TheLordOfTime | how much do you want to bet that pbuilder-dist is broken | 20:57 |
TheLordOfTime | jtaylor: ^ | 20:57 |
jtaylor | not sure what the problem | 20:58 |
jtaylor | likely something with components | 20:58 |
TheLordOfTime | well that's unlikely | 20:58 |
TheLordOfTime | debhelper's main | 20:58 |
TheLordOfTime | so's python | 20:58 |
arand | pango-graphite needs SRUing somehow in lucid: Bug #893559 which I'll be marking a dupe of Bug #540035 shortly. | 20:59 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 893559 in pango-graphite (Ubuntu) "Installing pango-graphite breaks display manager" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/893559 | 20:59 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 540035 in pango-graphite (Ubuntu) "pango-graphite causes several applications to crash" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540035 | 20:59 |
TheLordOfTime | yep, i think this is a bug in pbuilder | 20:59 |
TheLordOfTime | because i even *installed* python | 20:59 |
arand | This appears to fall into the "upstream microrelease" SRU category. Would it be appropriate here to simply request a sync from debian squeezy for the SRU? | 21:00 |
jbicha | personally, I use sbuild instead of pbuilder http://wiki.debian.org/sbuild | 21:00 |
TheLordOfTime | jbicha: i dont have it installed | 21:00 |
arand | TheLordOfTime: This is a qq pbuilder and qq juju source? | 21:07 |
TheLordOfTime | arand: precise pbuilder, quantal juju source | 21:08 |
TheLordOfTime | although i have a tarball now built for quantal | 21:08 |
TheLordOfTime | (for the pbuilder) | 21:08 |
TheLordOfTime | i'm just testing a package build | 21:08 |
TheLordOfTime | not actually *producing* the debs here | 21:08 |
* TheLordOfTime tests any and all debian package builds prior to submitting debdiffs for bugs | 21:08 | |
TheLordOfTime | s/debian// | 21:08 |
TheLordOfTime | arand: and using pbuilder-dist also breaks | 21:11 |
TheLordOfTime | it doesnt correctly identify that the debhelper and the python is valid | 21:11 |
TheLordOfTime | unless quantal's bootstrapthingy is wrong | 21:12 |
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TheLordOfTime | oh hang on | 21:15 |
arand | "pbuilder-dist quantal build juju_0.5+bzr542-1.dsc" seems to work for me from Debian | 21:19 |
TheLordOfTime | meh might just be pbuilder | 21:20 |
arand | precise doesn't have the python packages/versions that the quantal juju depends on. | 21:20 |
TheLordOfTime | i'll reinstall everything for it later | 21:20 |
TheLordOfTime | arand: but it was a quantal pbuilder-dist | 21:20 |
TheLordOfTime | i *confirmed* that | 21:20 |
TheLordOfTime | it should have still built within the chroot | 21:20 |
TheLordOfTime | no? | 21:20 |
TheLordOfTime | i.e. pbuilder-dist quantal build ... | 21:20 |
arand | Is it old and in need of an update? | 21:21 |
arand | (the base tgz that is) | 21:21 |
TheLordOfTime | i just recreated it | 21:21 |
TheLordOfTime | so i doubt it | 21:21 |
arand | Yeah. | 21:22 |
* TheLordOfTime had to recreate it today after an unfortunate nuking of the cache | 21:22 | |
arand | Hmm, I'm seing your exact dependency errors on the precise base and not on the quantal one... | 21:31 |
TheLordOfTime | arand: then i'm going to file a bug against pbuilder at this rate | 21:31 |
TheLordOfTime | pbuilder-dist quantal build did those errors | 21:31 |
TheLordOfTime | it even said * distribution is quantal | 21:31 |
* TheLordOfTime will purge pbuilder stuff and reinstall then test | 21:32 | |
TheLordOfTime | if it comes up i'll be filing a bug | 21:32 |
TheLordOfTime | comes up after reinstall* | 21:32 |
arand | Your first log from above is from precise though? | 21:33 |
TheLordOfTime | in pbuilder | 21:33 |
TheLordOfTime | but then i remembered i keep a build-tests ppa on lp | 21:33 |
TheLordOfTime | so i just used that | 21:33 |
arand | uh? | 21:35 |
arand | So you tried it in a precise base.tgz then in a PPA on quantal, then in a quantal base.tgz? | 21:36 |
arand | *PPA quantal pocket | 21:36 |
* TheLordOfTime sighs | 21:41 | |
TheLordOfTime | arand: i uploaded to a plain old PPA on Launchpad | 21:42 |
TheLordOfTime | after i said "screw it" to pbuilder locally | 21:42 |
* TheLordOfTime assumed that would have been understood immediately | 21:42 | |
TheLordOfTime | the package is targetted against Quantal, so it tried to build in a quantal chroot within the PPA builders | 21:42 |
TheLordOfTime | so it got past the random crap i was seeing in pbuilder | 21:42 |
TheLordOfTime | and stuff | 21:43 |
TheLordOfTime | i'm on a different issue now | 21:43 |
arand | Well, I FTBFS:ed as well, on a bunch of testcases... | 21:43 |
arand | http://paste.debian.net/176022/ But the depends bit you were seing went ok. | 21:45 |
TheLordOfTime | wait, so it FTBFS in Quantal? | 21:51 |
TheLordOfTime | arand: ^ | 21:52 |
arand | Looks like it, but later on in the build preocess than in your case... weird. | 21:53 |
TheLordOfTime | arand: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/108472904/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.juju_0.5%2Bbzr542-1.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz <-- that's what i'm getting when trying to help someone fix a bug (via an LP builder) | 21:55 |
TheLordOfTime | (see -bugs if you're not there already) | 21:55 |
TheLordOfTime | but if you're saying the original package isnt building from that source, then that's a bigger problem= | 21:58 |
TheLordOfTime | whoops | 21:58 |
arand | TheLordOfTime: From what I can tell that build log tells the exact same story as the one from pbuilder-precise-base... Just that it's using a different builder than pbuilder. But I've a hard time imagining that the QQ pocket in a PPA would confuse the series. I have no clue what's up there... | 22:04 |
arand | I would say it's indicating that it's not a pbuilder bug though. | 22:04 |
AmberJ_ | ok thanks james_w ... I won't settle until I find the source of this bug. | 22:10 |
arand | TheLordOfTime: I'm wondering if it's the latest python that's in flux, and being only half-published on some servers or so, hence everything that's depending on python suffers... | 22:12 |
arand | Hmm, no I misread the publishing dates there, seems pretty unlikely to be python.. | 22:18 |
TheLordOfTime | agreed | 22:22 |
TheLordOfTime | i'm thinking there's an error in the juju code | 22:22 |
TheLordOfTime | especially if its FTBFS without any patches | 22:22 |
TheLordOfTime | s/any/any additional/ | 22:22 |
arand | TheLordOfTime: Which package server were you using for your pbuilder by the way? | 22:25 |
TheLordOfTime | iridium | 22:26 |
arand | Oh, I meant http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu or? | 22:27 |
TheLordOfTime | oh, um... | 22:27 |
* TheLordOfTime checks | 22:27 | |
TheLordOfTime | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu <-- | 22:28 |
TheLordOfTime | (from the sources.list in the base tarball) | 22:28 |
TheLordOfTime | i could try it off of the us archive though | 22:29 |
TheLordOfTime | (the US mirrors) | 22:29 |
arand | Well, we were using the same mirror, so that can't be the dependency mismatch either o_o | 22:29 |
TheLordOfTime | but if the main archives have a major regression issue, then the mirrors wont be much better | 22:29 |
TheLordOfTime | indeed | 22:29 |
TheLordOfTime | hence why i'm going to uninstall and reinstall pbuilder | 22:29 |
AmberJ_ | Where is dh_make repo? I can see dh_make source on packages.debian.org but isn't there's supposed to be a version controlled repo as well? | 22:30 |
TheLordOfTime | hmm | 22:30 |
TheLordOfTime | arand: is dh-make needed? | 22:30 |
* TheLordOfTime isnt seeing dh-make installed on his system | 22:30 | |
arand | It's only for making packaging starter templates | 22:31 |
TheLordOfTime | just making sure | 22:31 |
TheLordOfTime | (although i do need that) | 22:31 |
arand | It's time-saving, though doesn't help you in doing the actual work :) | 22:32 |
TheLordOfTime | well... | 22:32 |
TheLordOfTime | it prevents me from having to bzr branch my debian templates | 22:32 |
TheLordOfTime | because i'll just recreate em | 22:32 |
* TheLordOfTime keeps debian/ templates on a junk branch | 22:32 | |
AmberJ_ | Found it http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/collab-maint/deb-maint/dh-make/ (dh-make svn repo on alioth) | 22:35 |
arand | AmberJ_: It's http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/dh-make.git;a=summary nowadays actually. | 22:41 |
TheLordOfTime | ^ that | 22:42 |
arand | TheLordOfTime: alo21's patch does cause a separate (earlier) FTBFS issue, it seems. | 22:51 |
TheLordOfTime | ah, so then his patch is invalid | 22:51 |
arand | Now we've got three of em' :D | 22:51 |
TheLordOfTime | (good thing he didnt upload, i'd have been strict) | 22:51 |
AmberJ_ | Thanks arand! | 22:51 |
TheLordOfTime | arand: if you can narrow down the FTBFS issue, that'd be awesome. | 22:51 |
arand | http://paste.debian.net/176033/ is the one with alo21's patch | 22:52 |
arand | I'm doubting I'll have much luck with it, but I'll gather as much as possible for a bug report though. | 22:59 |
AmberJ_ | james_w, I think I now get what you meant by "[00:55] <james_w> AmberJ_, might it be that MOSES_BZR_REVNO has no value when it breaks?" | 23:14 |
AmberJ_ | In fact, I strongly suspect that MOSES_BZR_REVNO getting no value is the culprit :) | 23:15 |
AmberJ_ | I'm doing a build now to see if we are right.. | 23:15 |
arand | Though, now it's turning night here. | 23:19 |
AmberJ_ | It does NOT matters if I run debuild from package/debian or from package/ .... right? | 23:28 |
TheLordOfTime | arand: at the least, on the bug report, i'd recommend pointing out it FTBFS as well (although note he didnt upload his patch yet) | 23:29 |
arand | AmberJ_: Should not. | 23:29 |
AmberJ_ | ok | 23:29 |
arand | TheLordOfTime: Yeah, when I said Bug I meant a new one for the current-version ftbfs | 23:30 |
TheLordOfTime | file it and subscribe me? | 23:30 |
TheLordOfTime | (trekcaptainusa-tw is my LPID) | 23:30 |
Yankees52 | !ops | 23:53 |
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