[00:26] <slowz> xubuntu uses lightdm
[00:26] <slowz> but i dont see why it would be a issue to use xdm
[00:35] <ball> Does lightdm work with xdmcp?
[03:18] <Ormie> Hello
[03:18] <Ormie> i am a newbie to linux
[03:20] <Ormie> Abiword and Genumeric doesn't suite my needs and also i have a high performance computer, i want to use libreoffice and uninstall abiword and genumeric how can i do that?
[03:24] <Ormie> anyoone here can help me?
[03:24] <Ormie> i am totally new to linux...
[03:24] <slowz> sudo apt-get remove abiword genumeric --puge ; sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[03:24] <slowz> --purge*
[03:25] <Ormie> ?
[03:25] <Ormie> huh?
[03:25] <Ormie> what's that?
[03:26] <slowz> ok. use synaptic and search for the packages you want to remove and install
[03:26] <Unit193> YOu can either paste that into the terminal, or use synaptic to find it and remove.
[03:27] <Ormie> what is a terminaal?
[03:28] <Ormie> there is also something i'm hiding :D
[03:29] <slowz> Ormie, hiding that you're trolling?
[03:29] <Ormie> no
[03:30] <Ormie> i am not
[03:30] <Ormie> but
[03:31] <Ormie> I am a linux geek faking to be newbie because i am researching about how community can help newbies.
[03:31] <Ormie> so i can examine and see how much satisfication linux newbies to linux are.
[03:32] <Ormie> slowz, also speaking like what you did wasn't nice.
[03:33] <slowz> Ormie, you tried to hard.
[03:33] <Unit193> Except that doesn't exactly work, and since it isn't support.... This is a suppoort channel.
[03:33] <Ormie> um...
[03:33] <Ormie> nvm
[03:33] <Ormie> then
[03:33] <Ormie> anyway i've got stats XD
[03:33] <Ormie> thx, bye
[03:34] <roasted_> hello!
[03:35] <roasted_> does the application startup manager not work for some reason with custom scripts?
[03:35] <roasted_> I put in a sleep 30; rsync -az /blah/foo /over/here but it doesnt run
[03:35] <roasted_> runs manually if I launch it in terminal tho (the command, that is)
[03:37] <Unit193> Already have a script file? You may need to mark it as executable.
[03:37] <roasted_> nah, I'm doing that now. In Gnome I just set the command right in the command field.
[03:37] <roasted_> Gnome, Unity, whatever.
[03:38] <roasted_> My fiance runs XFCE tho so that's the box I'm on at the moment.
[03:38] <roasted_> I was trying to do the same thing but I suppose it's not capable of launching just raw commands, but moreso, needs a script?
[03:39] <roasted_> hm, works with the script
[03:39] <roasted_> running now
[03:46] <nady> hy
[04:17] <alazare619> what login manager does xubuntu use?
[04:18] <alazare619> and display manager
[04:18] <alazare619> is it lightdm?
[04:18] <pleia2> yes
[04:19] <alazare619> then how do i get it to look all slick and not like the ubuntu one
[04:19] <alazare619> i did a minimal install of ubuntu and install xfce etc
[04:19] <alazare619> but i want the look of the xubuntu login without the special package that came from xubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <pleia2> probably want to use xubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <pleia2> ah, I'm not sure
[04:21] <alazare619> aww well atleast i know it is lightdm
[04:21] <alazare619> ill look through lightdm's confs then
[04:21] <alazare619> im sure thats where its at
[04:22] <alazare619> thanks tho :)
[04:22] <pleia2> good luck :)
[04:22] <Unit193> lightdm-gtk-greeter, with xubuntu-default settings or -artwork
[04:27] <Unit193> Right, it's the gtk-greeter with the Greybird theme, IIRC.
[05:54] <fuzzynurfhurter> hi yall
[05:58] <baizon> hi hi
[06:07] <fuzzynurfhurter> whats happining tonight??
[06:31] <baizon> France vs Spain :D
[06:34] <fuzzynurfhurter> hi how do u and a launcher for the different things in the menu ??
[06:36] <baizon> fuzzynurfhurter: im sorry i dont understand your question :)
[06:38] <fuzzynurfhurter> i think i know now i have to try it real quick lol brain fart
[06:42] <baizon> ok :)
[06:44] <fuzzynurfhurter> i lost where it was to open it man lol
[07:19] <fuzzynurfhurter> baizon i found what i was talking about its the xfce4 menu editor
[07:20] <baizon> ok :)
[07:20] <fuzzynurfhurter> but i dont understand it
[07:21] <fuzzynurfhurter> i gmy badot it now
[07:21] <fuzzynurfhurter> dammit
[07:21] <fuzzynurfhurter> i got it now sry lol
[07:52] <fuzzynurfhurter> how do u get icons to the desktop??
[08:29] <fuzzynurfhurter> i need alittle help i have a linksys wireless usb card but it wont show up in the network manager
[08:31] <well_laid_lawn> fuzzynurfhurter: does it show up when you do   lsusb   in the terminal ?
[08:32] <fuzzynurfhurter> yes
[08:35] <fuzzynurfhurter> what do i do with it
[08:35] <fuzzynurfhurter> ?
[08:53] <well_laid_lawn> there's a guide in the wiki
[08:53] <well_laid_lawn> !wifi
[10:10] <Chintu> Hello guys!
[10:10] <hobgoblin> hello Chintu
[10:11] <hobgoblin> cya
[10:12] <Chintu> I can't login to root in my xubuntu :/
[10:12] <Chintu> Su root
[10:13] <hobgoblin> this going to be fun - quick reply and wait ...
[10:23] <Chintu> I am trying to log in as root, but, can't login :/
[10:24] <knome> Chintu, root account is not enabled in ubuntu, for a reason
[10:24] <knome> !root | Chintu
[10:24] <knome> Chintu, please use sudo.
[10:24] <hobgoblin> su is disabled by default chintu - use sudo - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:24] <hobgoblin> lol
[10:25] <knome> either he has a really bad internet connection, or he thought again "wait, i can try *this*" ...
[10:25] <hobgoblin> did you get those links Chintu ?
[10:26] <Chintu> Yeha :)
[10:26] <Chintu> thanks :)
[10:26] <hobgoblin> oh good
[10:27] <Chintu> Tcl is already installed bt where is tclinc?
[10:27] <Chintu> But*
[10:50] <hobgoblin> hi tim_db
[11:29] <snitride> hello everyone, i hope someone can help me, i am using xubuntu 12.04 with xfce destop, now what i want to do is, put the reboot, shutdown button back into main menue i followed this howto http://windows7forums.com/linux/42676-create-desktop-launcher-shortcut-shutdown-restart-ubuntu.html this also works but only if i execute the python script in a terminal, as soon as i add it as launcher in the mainmenue the python script asks me for
[11:31] <snitride> for clarification: script works with out asking for sudo password if executed in terminal, but starts asking for sudo password if i add the command "python /pathtoscript/.pythonscript"
[11:31] <snitride> to main menue as launcher
[11:34] <snitride> sorry wrong link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=342763 :)
[13:04] <jochen> ch habe häufig das lästige Problem, dass beim Booten meines xubuntu die alte Sitzung wieder hergestellt wird. Häufig fehlt dann auch die Fensterleiste. Löschen des Ordners ".cache" löst das Problem. Wie kann ich das Hochfahren der alten Sitzung dauerhaft verhindern?
[13:05] <hobgoblin> !de | jochen
[13:08] <jochen> sorry. Hatte mich vertan... das wollte ich eigentlich inn #ubuntu-de-offtopic gefragt haben, nachdem in #Ubuntu-de niemand geantwortet hat...
[13:09] <knome> english, please.
[13:10] <SkippersBoss> jochen: if you ask your question in English inhere or #ubuntu you probably will get some answers on your boot problmes
[13:11] <SkippersBoss> !patience | jochen
[13:16] <jochen> tnx. I am not as good in english language to write my question there, but I will have a look there...
[13:31] <xubuntu748> hello
[13:31] <xubuntu748> anyone knows how to decrease volume balloon time out
[13:32] <xubuntu748> ..or whats it called
[13:32] <xubuntu748> volume indicator time out
[13:34] <SandJ> xubuntu748, hang on in there.  Looking...
[13:35] <xubuntu748> thx!
[13:40] <hobgoblin> xubuntu748: I thought there should be a notification setting in the settings manager - but I've got xfce4.10 here and it appears to be missing
[13:40] <xubuntu748> yes
[13:40] <xubuntu748> the same with me
[13:40] <SandJ> xubuntu748, Start menu, settings, settings manager, notifications, Disappear after [ ] seconds.
[13:41] <hobgoblin> xubuntu748: settings manager - settings editor - xfce4-notifyd
[13:41] <hobgoblin> my expire timeout is at 1
[13:43] <SandJ> And changing "xfce4-notifyd" DOES change it in " Start menu, settings, settings manager, notifications" so it is the same thing.
[13:43] <SandJ> xubuntu748, thank you for raising that question - I have been meaning to work out how to do that for weeks!
[13:44] <xubuntu748> perfect!!!!!
[13:44] <xubuntu748> :)
[13:44] <xubuntu748> so easy!
[13:44] <SandJ> ... when you know how!
[13:44] <xubuntu748> right!
[13:45] <xubuntu748> thank you very much!
[13:46] <SandJ> If I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 and have all the updates installed, why do I have xfce4.8 and you have xfce4.10 ?
[13:47] <hobgoblin> I installed 4.10 - it's in a ppa
[13:48] <SandJ> Oh, I see.  That game me enough to Google with:  "XFCE 4.10 was released about two weeks ago, too late to be included in Xubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin. But you can install the latest XFCE 4.10 in Xubuntu 12.04 using a PPA."
[13:48] <hobgoblin> yep - but it's not supported afaik
[13:50] <SandJ> Hmm.  And its list of features seem to be all available to me anyway.  E.g. I have moved the 2nd panel to the left and my top panel is 2 rows.   I stay with the supported stuff.  :-)
[13:52] <hobgoblin> panel has deskbar option and it will also tile apps
[13:53] <hobgoblin> but yea stay with supported stuff :)
[14:02] <uskerine> hi, i am running the live xubuntu distribution, how could I change xsession so i run mwm/lesstif instead of xfce?
[14:04] <uskerine> or... how can login be enabled in xubuntu live cd?
[14:25] <Kingsy> guys, the volume control icon has literally vanished from my notifaction area.. how do you get it back?
[14:25] <Kingsy> I still have sound tho
[14:27] <Chintu> Right click on Panel 1>> Then, Item tab >> add << Maybe, it'll help you, I guess!
[14:28] <Kingsy> Chintu: that wont get anything back in the notifaction area
[14:29] <Kingsy> oh..
[14:29] <Kingsy> its not even a part of that. its a seperate thing
[14:29] <Chintu> Hmm, You're talking about Notification , I thought, Taskbar..
[14:30] <Kingsy> it worked tho
[14:30] <Kingsy> I added it to the panel
[14:30] <Chintu> Hmm, I am new with these Linux thing, I just guessed that :)
[14:31] <Kingsy> hmm yeah that actually isnt it..
[14:31] <Kingsy> I can see the icon but the way it works isnt the same..
[14:31] <Kingsy> so yeah I need to add it to the notifaction area again I assume
[14:32] <Chintu> Xubuntu has Notification Sound? :o
[14:33] <Chintu> I thought, It doesn't play any sound :/
[14:33] <Chintu> As it is in mine :/
[14:34] <Kingsy> no, not notifaction sound.. just a sound icon in the notifaction area
[14:34] <hobgoblin> Kingsy: have you removed something ?
[14:34] <Kingsy> so you can increase / decrease the sound
[14:34] <Kingsy> hobgoblin: umm I removed gmusicbrowser..
[14:34] <Kingsy> apart from that I don't know
[14:34] <hobgoblin> that shouldn't do it afaik
[14:36] <Kingsy> hobgoblin: what is the package called that displays that icon? I will try and install it.. see if I have it or not
[14:36] <hobgoblin> indicator-sound I believe
[14:36] <Kingsy> ok
[14:36] <hobgoblin> kingsy have you got the network and messaging icons?
[14:37] <Kingsy> indicator-sound is already the newest version.
[14:37] <Kingsy> hobgoblin: yeah I get networking notifactions and such
[14:37] <Kingsy> banshee also tells me when its changing tracks
[14:40] <hobgoblin> not sure then - sorry
[15:26] <en1gma> i just installed xubuntu on my laptop a few mins ago and did all the updates. i then hooked up my lcd to the vga port on my laptop
[15:26] <en1gma> how do i extend my desktop? my laptop physically sets BELOW my lcd and is centered too
[15:26] <en1gma> what do i do to fix this? right now i think its just cloned
[15:27] <en1gma> and my LCD is lower then my laptop as far as the software is concerened
[15:27] <Sysi> try arandr
[15:27] <en1gma> i have to move my mouse (on the lcd) towards the top to get the cursor to show up on the laptop
[15:28] <en1gma> whats arandr
[15:29] <Sysi> tool to adjust (multiple) displays
[15:29] <en1gma> its in the software center?
[15:29] <Sysi> yup
[15:30] <en1gma> thanks. but is that pretty much what people do when they have multiple displays? i mean usually i just click in the display manager or w/e and you can move the displays around and extend or w/e. just checking to make sure this is the standard app people use in xubuntu as i am new to it and usually use ubuntu
[15:32] <hobgoblin> it's what I use
[15:32] <en1gma> ok. will grab it then after i finish installing some other apps
[15:33] <en1gma> btw xubuntu is basically what i wind up with whenever i get done uninstalling all my office stuff from ubuntu and setting my power options and getting back my old UI (i hate unity) so good work whoever put this all together
[15:33] <en1gma> feels nice and fast and no bloat
[15:45]  * Chintu is away "auto away after 20 minutes idling"  Log: on  Pager: off
[16:08] <ThePirateBay_se> Is it possible to recreate this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4G4yKrMI7p4/TZY1dqN3YII/AAAAAAAABRs/oa4501Z2qgI/s1600/Screenshot3.png on Xubuntu?
[16:08] <ThePirateBay_se> Suggestions appreciated folks! :)
[16:13] <pleia2> recreate what exactly?
[16:14] <ThePirateBay_se> Can that theme work on XFCE and can that dock be put?
[16:14] <ThePirateBay_se> Also what about the Mac-like app menu?
[16:15] <Sysi> xfce uses same themes as gnome (notice gtk2 + gtk3), you can use any dock you like, there should be globalmenu available some way
[16:20] <ThePirateBay_se> I do wonder if someone can look up for a globalmenu compatible with the latest Xubuntu..
[16:47] <kencausey> I've just installed xubuntu on a laptop I want to lend a friend.  I started by creating an account for myself.  I then created an account for my friend.  I want my friend to be able to install software without needing to know my password, and other related things.  If he trashes the laptop it's no problem. I've gone into users and set him as administrator.  But nonetheless when I try to install
[16:47] <kencausey> software as him it always asks for my password.  Help?
[16:48] <pleia2> why do you think it's asking for your password?
[16:48] <pleia2> put his password in when the prompt comes up
[16:48] <kencausey> It says my name
[16:48] <pleia2> in his user?
[16:48] <kencausey> yes
[16:49] <kencausey> I login as him, his name appears at the top right
[16:49] <kencausey> Yet in the password field to authorize software installation it says my name
[16:50] <kencausey> 'Password for ken:'
[16:50] <kencausey> and entering his password is not accepted
[16:50] <SkippersBoss> kencausey, has he been added to the list of sudoers
[16:52] <kencausey> Sorry, old laptop, takes a bit of time to logout and in to another account...
[16:53] <kencausey> He is not listed, but then I am not either
[16:53] <kencausey> So I checked the groups
[16:53] <kencausey> We are both in adm
[16:53] <kencausey> he is not in sudo though, while I am
[16:53] <SkippersBoss> he should be :-)
[16:54] <kencausey> Fine, I can do this
[16:54] <kencausey> But this indicates something is messed up
[16:54] <kencausey> in the user configuration
[16:54] <knome> kencausey, is it an upgrade?
[16:54] <SkippersBoss> http://askubuntu.com/questions/7477/how-can-i-add-a-new-user-as-sudoer
[16:54] <kencausey> No, clean install from iso downloaded today
[16:54] <SkippersBoss> inly first installed user will be automaticly assigned to the sudo group
[16:55] <SkippersBoss> only
[16:55] <kencausey> What does it mean then to set a user to Administrator?
[16:55] <pleia2> kencausey: oh wow, I was able to replicate, it looks like a bug
[16:55] <pleia2> let me try some things
[16:55] <kencausey> Thanks
[16:56] <kencausey> I know how to get around this of course
[16:56] <SkippersBoss> i leave u to it then
[16:56] <kencausey> I'm just pointing out that my expectation was wrong or not met.
[16:56] <knome> i wonder if this relates somehow to the thing that some group was renamed last cycle, iirc
[16:56] <knome> might be a regression
[16:56] <kencausey> It is confusing that admin is setup as a trusted group in sudo yet the group I'm in is adm
[16:57] <kencausey> s/the group/a group/
[16:59] <pleia2> yeah, looks like it
[16:59] <pleia2> if you: sudo adduser newUser sudo
[16:59] <kencausey> already did that, but thanks
[17:00] <pleia2> and then log in as that newUser again it's ok
[17:00] <pleia2> kencausey: can you submit a bug?
[17:00] <pleia2> I'll check if this is still the case in 12.10
[17:01] <kencausey> OK, where?  This is the first time I've ever tried ubuntu.  I'm a Debian user myself.
[17:01] <kencausey> err xubuntu
[17:01] <kencausey> I have setup ubuntu for a family member or two
[17:01] <kencausey> but not xubuntu before
[17:01] <pleia2> kencausey: thoughts on what to submit this against?
[17:01] <pleia2> err knome ^^
[17:01] <kencausey> yeah, I'm not sure :)
[17:01] <pleia2> but you'll want to use: ubuntu-bug package
[17:01] <pleia2> once we figure out what package ;)
[17:02] <kencausey> ok, so to ubuntu, great
[17:02] <kencausey> I'll wait
[17:02] <knome> pleia2, i'm not sure. maybe the users configuration dialog, or just ubuntu core
[17:03] <pleia2> yeah, let me figure out what package the users admin tool is in...
[17:03] <pleia2> gnome-system-tools
[17:03] <pleia2> that should do
[17:04] <kencausey> OK, will do, thanks again
[17:06] <pleia2> boo, still exists in 12.10
[17:07] <pleia2> kencausey: let me know the bug number once you are able to submit it, I can confirm
[17:22] <kencausey> pleia2: sorry delayed there by a phone call and reading the suggested existing bugs: 1016932
[17:22] <pleia2> kencausey: thanks!
[17:23] <kencausey> thank you for your help
[17:47] <en1gma> alright i cant stand arandr to do my screens
[17:47] <en1gma> there has to be something else
[18:07] <en1gma> omg xrandr is driving me insane
[18:07] <en1gma> how the heck do i do an extended desktop? it shouldnt be this hard
[18:08] <Unit193> Try using arandr, it's a GUI for xrandr.
[18:08] <en1gma> i am but it dont let me move or even extend the desktops
[18:08] <en1gma> yea i mean im using arandr
[18:08] <en1gma> i tried grandr but it dont even show up anywhere
[18:09] <en1gma> arandr (for me anyways) lets me activate both my screens, adjust resolution and rotation
[18:09] <en1gma> i dont see where i can make each screen independent
[18:10] <en1gma> and move the screens in position i need
[18:10] <Unit193> http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/ lists it as able to.
[18:11] <en1gma> its only showing one of my desktops on its main gui screen it appears
[18:11] <en1gma> thats prob why i cant do anything
[18:12] <en1gma> nm they were overlapped
[18:12] <en1gma> i couldnt tell there was 2 there
[18:14] <Unit193> Heh, alrighty.
[18:15] <en1gma> yea but its still not right
[18:16] <en1gma> on moved my laptop screen (under the lcd screen) but the lcd is m primary i mean my X-menu is on my lcd
[18:16] <en1gma> it should be on my laptop (how do i tell arandr which monitor is my primary)?
[18:18] <SkippersBoss> en1gma, you have tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1776520
[18:19] <SkippersBoss> ??
[18:40] <alazare619> does anyone know the official means that xubuntu is built with
[18:40] <alazare619> i know its not uck
[18:40] <alazare619> but is it live-build?
[19:08] <en1gma> SkippersBoss sorry to respond so late but my step uncle came over and i had to talk to him. i looked at that link and it says the default monitor can not be anything besdies the laptop monitor but it is
[19:08] <en1gma> the default monitor (where the xubuntu menu is) is on my TV (lcd vga)
[19:09] <en1gma> i can move the vga-lcd UNDER my laptop in anadr and its all ok
[19:09] <en1gma> but irl my vga-lcd (tv is hanging on my wall and is HIGHER) then my laptop
[19:09] <en1gma> so it would be in reverse
[19:10] <en1gma> i would have to move my mouse down to get it on the TV which really should take me moving the mouse up
[19:10] <Sysi> drag them where you want with arandr
[19:10] <en1gma> i did
[19:10] <en1gma> i put my TV abover my laptop
[19:10] <en1gma> and now my default screen is the TV
[19:10] <en1gma> it should be my laptop still
[19:11] <SkippersBoss> yeah but the --primary tag should take care of that
[19:12] <SkippersBoss> one sec
[19:12] <en1gma> i dont know what you mean by that. do i need to add that to xrandr somewhere?
[19:13] <SkippersBoss> a:
[19:13] <en1gma> oh wait
[19:13] <SkippersBoss> go to the panel
[19:14] <en1gma> i see something....on my laptop which is lower then the tv (the menu at the bottom of the screen is on the laptop) and the top menu is on the TV
[19:14] <en1gma> the hover menu (not sure what you call it in xubuntu) is at the bottom of my laptop screen (which should be correct if its primary) but the top of my TV screen is the Xubuntu menu and toolbar
[19:15] <en1gma> which should be on the primary im thinking
[19:15] <SkippersBoss> panel preferences display output :select lvds
[19:15] <en1gma> k 1 sec
[19:17] <SkippersBoss> i now have that panel including menu icon on my lvds screen
[19:17] <en1gma> i dont see display output
[19:18] <en1gma> wiat i see it
[19:18] <en1gma> nice
[19:18] <en1gma> is that all i should have to do?
[19:18] <SkippersBoss> worked 4 me
[19:19] <SkippersBoss> and now i have put it back again :-))
[19:20] <en1gma> thanks man
[19:20] <en1gma> that did the trick
[19:20] <SkippersBoss> ur welcome
[19:20] <SkippersBoss> have fun
[19:20] <en1gma> thanks again
[21:49] <xubuntu925> Hello all,
[21:49] <xubuntu925> I am unable to configure the internal microphone on my Thinkpad T61.  Using Precise Pangolin 12.04
[21:49] <xubuntu925> anyone have insights?
[21:52] <GridCube> xubuntu925, open pavucontrol and set it up again
[21:52] <xubuntu925> GridCube, I have it open.  What do I do next?
[21:53] <xubuntu925> I go to "Input Devices"
[21:53] <GridCube> yes
[21:53] <xubuntu925> Show:  All Input Devices
[21:54] <GridCube> xubuntu925, do you have the program you need to use the mic open now?
[21:54] <xubuntu925> the one I would like to use is Google Voice
[21:54] <xubuntu925> for phone calls.
[21:55] <xubuntu925> "Hardware Input Devices" shows nothing
[21:55] <xubuntu925> "Virtual Input Devices" shows nothing
[21:56] <GridCube> and recording?
[21:56] <xubuntu925> "Monitors" seems to be doing something, but looks like it is responding to whatever Youtube's doing
[21:56] <GridCube> mmh it should
[21:56] <xubuntu925> "Recording" shows absolutely nothing
[21:56] <xubuntu925> I've tried playing around with ALSA, to no avail
[21:58] <GridCube> xubuntu925, record will show something if you open a program that records like audacity
[21:58] <GridCube> i dont know xubuntu925 here it works
[21:58] <GridCube> change the volume level on the mic?
[21:59] <xubuntu925> GridCube, there is no way to work the mic volume levels.  Are you talking about Alsa controller?
[21:59] <GridCube> no
[21:59] <GridCube> in pavucontrol
[21:59] <xubuntu925> Do you have a T61?
[22:00] <GridCube> no,
[22:00] <GridCube> unsilese the mic
[22:00] <xubuntu925> How do I unsilence the mic?
[22:00] <xubuntu925> the thing is that Pavucontrol shows no microphone options
[22:01] <GridCube> on input devices?
[22:01] <xubuntu925> AlsaMixer has no options for the "Internal Mic"
[22:01] <GridCube> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla-230612-190021.php
[22:02] <GridCube> xubuntu925, use pavucontrol...
[22:03] <xubuntu925> GridCube "All except Monitor" shows a blank window with "No input devices available" message
[22:03] <GridCube> ooookay then you have a problem my friend
[22:03] <xubuntu925> Of course I do
[22:03] <xubuntu925> the setup is not detecting the microphone
[22:04] <GridCube> do lspci | grep "Audio"
[22:04] <xubuntu925> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[22:04] <xubuntu925> (that is the output of lspci | grep Audio)
[22:05] <GridCube> :D i know
[22:13] <GridCube> xubuntu925, ok
[22:13] <GridCube> so it seems like you need to tell alsa what intel you are using
[22:13] <GridCube> lets try something ok?
[22:13] <xubuntu925> OK, let's try it, GridCube
[22:14] <GridCube> press alt-f2 and write gksu leafpad /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[22:14] <GridCube> and at the end of the file add this line:
[22:14] <GridCube> options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo
[22:14] <xubuntu925> basically, edit that file?  I'll open it in Vim
[22:15] <GridCube> yup ok
[22:15] <GridCube> xubuntu653, it says lenovo because that one uses the same sound card
[22:16] <xubuntu925> ok
[22:16] <xubuntu925> done
[22:16] <xubuntu925> :wq
[22:16] <GridCube> now restart alsa
[22:16] <xubuntu925> alsa force-reload ?
[22:16] <GridCube> i would unload it first
[22:16] <GridCube> just to be sure
[22:17] <xubuntu925> how do I unload?
[22:17] <GridCube> force-unload
[22:17] <GridCube> :)
[22:17] <xubuntu925> terminating processes ...
[22:17] <GridCube> if you type alsa and hit enter it will say all the options
[22:17] <xubuntu925> next
[22:17] <xubuntu925> alsa force-reload
[22:17] <GridCube> reload
[22:17] <xubuntu925> ?
[22:17] <GridCube> :)
[22:17] <GridCube> yes
[22:18] <GridCube> it should have taken the new configs
[22:18] <xubuntu925> done
[22:18] <xubuntu925> Should I see the 'Lenovo" statement in the Loading ALSA sound driver modules?
[22:18] <GridCube> i dont honestly know
[22:19] <xubuntu925> Loading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-codec-analog snd-hda-intel snd-hda-codec snd-hwdep snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc
[22:19] <GridCube> but i dont think so
[22:19] <GridCube> xubuntu925, check with pavucontrol now
[22:19] <xubuntu925> well, whatever it is, it reloaded itself
[22:19] <GridCube> or alsamixer
[22:20] <xubuntu925> nope, still nada
[22:20] <xubuntu925> Internal Mic is still a blank
[22:20] <GridCube> mmmhm i see
[22:20] <GridCube> maybe, maaaaaaaybe, you need to reboot?
[22:21] <xubuntu925> is this a current list:
[22:21] <xubuntu925> http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt
[22:22] <GridCube> or better why dont you ask on #ubuntu-studio they use xubuntu as their base now, and they should know much more about sound stuff than us
[22:22] <GridCube> maybe you can find people there who knows what they are telling you for sure
[22:22] <xubuntu925> "options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad"
[22:22] <GridCube> sure try that
[22:23] <xubuntu925> it seems like that would correspond to my model
[22:23] <GridCube> probably
[22:23] <xubuntu925> but that is more or less what ALSA is looking for
[22:23] <GridCube> but i dont know if alsa is taking the new configs or not
[22:23] <xubuntu925> let me reboot
[22:24] <xubuntu925> I will be back,
[22:24] <xubuntu925> my new nick will be
[22:24] <xubuntu925> "T61_problems"
[22:24] <xubuntu925> c-ya
[22:28] <HmblEfrtNChaos> what does the auth to services widget option do on this web irc connect?
[22:29] <knome> HmblEfrtNChaos, if you have a freenode account, you can sign in to that via the webchat.
[22:29] <T61_problems> GridCube, it didn't work
[22:30] <GridCube> :( T61_problems
[22:30] <GridCube> i don't really know much more
[22:30] <GridCube> sorry
[22:31] <T61_problems> brb
[22:31] <GridCube> T61_problems, please go to #ubuntu-studio and ask there, im pretty sure someoner there should know
[22:31] <T61_problems> I have a windows partition on the machine, let me check the mic via that
[22:31] <T61_problems> discount an outright hardware issue
[22:31] <GridCube> :)
[22:32] <HmblEfrtNChaos> Knome, thanks and thank you for being the first person ever to respond to me on IRC it's sad im 27 had access to a computer since 16 and only now lol
[22:32] <knome> HmblEfrtNChaos, no problem :)
[22:32] <HmblEfrtNChaos> knome, well my main question reason for here was if i get the torrent download i can just install from my current windows desktop
[22:33] <knome> HmblEfrtNChaos, i'd suggest burning the ISO to a cd, that way you can try xubuntu live from the cd first, without installing
[22:33] <HmblEfrtNChaos> yeah i only have a 5gb system with no burner
[22:34] <HmblEfrtNChaos> I only really use this to do minimal text editing and surf the net so nothing fancy
[22:35] <HmblEfrtNChaos> so that should work though right just torrent and I can install from my current desktop>
[22:35] <HmblEfrtNChaos> ?
[22:37] <xubuntu653> Hi. Anybody know how to increase the window border width on window edge grab space? It's one pixel and given my 8000x6000 resolution it's hard to grab.
[22:37] <knome> HmblEfrtNChaos, with wubi, yes, but i'm not sure if 5GB is enough. using a usb disk is another option
[22:37] <knome> xubuntu653, see http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[22:38] <HmblEfrtNChaos> Your cool knome thanks i'm reading some documentation now i was just excited to try and get an answer on irc and now my irc career has started thanks pal
[22:38] <HmblEfrtNChaos> I'm off all the best
[22:40] <xubuntu653> I tried alt-rightclick-drag and it doesn't work? What am I doing wrong? Is it too much to ask to make the borders bigger? How do I do that?
[22:41] <xubuntu653> I wouldn't mind using the alt-rightclick-drag except I use 7 different machines and to have to remember to do this special thing on this one is silly.
[22:41] <knome> xubuntu653, that would need editing the theme. you can change the xfwm theme though, that should help
[22:41] <T61_problems> GridCube, the microphone works fine, window's side.
[22:41] <T61_problems> it isn't hardware.
[22:41] <T61_problems> what was that other room you suggested?
[22:41] <GridCube> #ubuntu-studio
[22:41] <knome> that would be #ubuntustudio
[22:41] <T61_problems> how do I go there?  IRC I am not familiar with
[22:41] <knome> T61_problems, /join #channame
[22:42] <T61_problems> gracias
[22:42] <xubuntu653> I tried changing the theme 600 different ways, what exactly do I change?
[22:44] <th0r> T61_problems, I just fixed my new xubuntu install...couldn't get the mic to work in skype. Just uninstalled pulseaudio
[22:44] <knome> xubuntu653, you'd need to change the pictures if you wanted to change the border with.
[22:44] <T61_problems> th0r, did uninstalling pulseaudio fix it?
[22:44] <knome> xubuntu653, to change the theme to some other, go to settings manager -> window manager -> tab 'style'
[22:44] <T61_problems> th0r, alsamixer shows nothing for the internal mic.
[22:44] <GridCube> knome, #ubuntu-studio works aswell
[22:45] <knome> GridCube, didn't know that. :)
[22:45] <th0r> T61_problems, yup. But I have to admit, alsamixer did show the mic previously, but it just didn't work
[22:45] <GridCube> well i never knew it was without the - :P
[22:45] <T61_problems> th0r, is yours the T61 or is it the T61p?
[22:46] <T61_problems> mine is the T61, and the hardware is fine, as verified by checking within the Windoze partition
[22:46] <th0r> T61_problems, I didn't even think about it til a few minutes ago when I saw your question. I have just gone back to xubuntu from suse and hadn't even installed skype yet
[22:46] <T61_problems> sudo apt-get uninstall pulseaudio?
[22:46] <GridCube> xubuntu653, you need to change the theme on the window manager options
[22:46] <th0r> I am using a gateway netbook. But I had similar issues with other laptops so had previous experience with pulse.
[22:46] <th0r> T61_problems, yea...that simple. If it doesn't work, you can always put it back
[22:47] <T61_problems> so you ran into this issue in your T61, not your Gateway
[22:48] <th0r> T61_problems, not a T61....don't have one. On the gateway, and previously on a dell d600.
[22:48] <T61_problems> nope, no dice
[22:48] <T61_problems> this issue is hard to track down
[22:48] <th0r> T61_problems, ah well....was worth a shot
[23:15] <xubuntu653> changing the theme doesn't help, because all of the themes have 1 pixel borders. I don't care what theme I use, but how do I change a theme to have thick borders?
[23:16] <knome> xubuntu653, as i said, you'll need to edit the pictures in the xfwm subdir of the theme
[23:25] <xubuntu653> I tried that, but I'll try again, thanks.
[23:25] <xubuntu653> one moment.
[23:34] <xubuntu027> Hi
[23:35] <xubuntu027> Does anyone know the recomended system requirements to run OS
[23:35] <xubuntu653> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[23:41] <xubuntu653> so I changed /usr/share/themes/Greybird/xfwm4/top*.png to be bigger and rebooted, and no change. What am I doing wrong?
[23:45] <David-A> xubuntu653: what do you want to happen? (no need to reboot, just logout/login)
[23:45] <knome> xubuntu653, you might want to change the theme to something else and back, that might work.