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Ex777skype and teamspeak playback static instead of sound, web browser and other programs playback sound fine why does voip software not seem to work correctly for me00:15
Avihayit may be that one set uses alsa while the other uses pulse. there might be some config options to select the working sound system in the programs that doesn't. there are wrapper scripts that let you load alsa using programs with pulse and the other way around, I think. you may want to try them00:33
AvihayI was thinking bout something like alsa-oss but I can't find it00:38
BluesKajmost onboard soundcards can be used fully including flash webaudio without pulseaudio , most pci soundcards require pulse audio to link to alsa for webaudio00:39
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faglnarAvihay: edwardw from #videolan got it. its this: http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/664101:02
faglnarits 3 am already *zzzzzz*01:03
igneriouswhy telepathy does not show "contacts come online/offline " notification?03:35
igneriousi mean KDE_telepathy03:35
igneriouswhy telepathy does not show "contacts come online/offline " notification?03:35
igneriouswhy telepathy does not show "contacts come online/offline " notification?03:35
igneriouswhy telepathy does not show "contacts come online/offline " notification?03:35
FloodBotK1ignerious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:36
ignerious???03:36
genii-aroundignerious: FloodBotK1 can't really help you, they are a bot. If no one replies to your question right away, just ask it again after a reasonable amount of time ( like 5-10 minutes )03:39
igneriousok03:39
igneriouswhy telepathy does not show "contacts come online/offline " notification?03:40
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genii-aroundignerious: You might also want to try http://www.kubuntuforums.net/content.php03:43
gulzarPlease help. How to have only icons in KDE-taskbar (without text)? Similar to pclos-kde or much better.04:21
gulzaranyone?04:25
gulzar?04:28
naught101has anyone else noticed kdialogues and dolphin being incredibly slow and/or hanging lately?04:47
gulzarPlease help. How to have only icons in KDE-taskbar (without text)?04:52
christopherThe multisystem script isn't working, it worked on UBUNTU. That's how I was able to instlal Kubuntu...I'm googling but I can't find anything...this is retarded05:00
christopher"2: install-depot-multisystem.sh: Syntax error: redirection unexpected" http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ I got it straight from here last time with no problems. I have no clue how to trouble shoot this..Any ideas?05:02
tebuhi06:15
tebuI am facing booting problem06:15
tebuBy default it get stuck in to starting bluetooth deamon06:15
tebuafter a long time I get GUI Login screen,06:16
tebubut no mouse access06:16
tebuI need to reboot and need to select previous version06:16
tebukindly help to fix the same06:16
genii-aroundtebu: FloodBotK2 is a bot, they cannot assist. Right now this channel is quiet, many of the helpers are not in your local timezone. Perhaps to try again later, or try searching the Kubuntu forums.06:21
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lordievaderGood morning07:40
Yosergood morning07:49
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danielohey10:19
danieloGuys10:19
danieloafter updating nvidia driver I can resume my laptop10:19
danieloits quite sad10:20
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lordievaderdanielo: Do you get a promt or just a black screen?10:27
danielono promt only black screen :(10:27
danieloI have updated from here10:27
danielohttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates10:27
lordievaderdanielo: How did you install the nVidia driver?10:29
danielosudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates10:30
danielosudo apt-get update10:30
danielosudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings10:30
lordievaderdanielo: I see, why didn't you use the jockey? Anyhow I reccommend uninstalling those packages and then installing the driver through the jockey.10:33
ikoniaahhh PPA10:34
ikoniabye bye10:34
lordievaderikonia: ?10:34
ikonialordievader: the x-swap PPA10:35
lordievaderikonia: Is there something wrong with it? Never heard of it myself.10:36
lordievaderdanielo: Do you know how to boot into rescue mode?10:36
ikonialordievader: I just find it poor and lacking testing10:36
danieloi think I know10:40
danielowhat do you mean by jockey?10:40
danieloI've installed it by this ppa cause there wasnt any other in system actualizator:P10:41
lordievaderdanielo: Jockey is a gui made to install non-open-source drivers, like the nVidia driver.10:41
danieloyea I know10:41
danielobut there wanst that version of driver :P10:42
lordievaderWhat version, danielo10:43
danieloI've contacted with ppa contributors and they told me that there is already bug commit in this ppa10:43
danielo302.1710:43
danieloLinux-x86_6410:43
lordievaderdanielo: And why do you need to ahve that version of the driver? You want support for some new things or something?10:44
danielothe newest version give support form reall time changing display10:46
danielountil that driver anytime I've connected my tv I had black and white colour10:46
danieloI had to detect displays then logout10:46
lordievaderdanielo: Are those drivers available on the nVidia website?10:46
danielorestart x and ther log in back10:47
danieloyea10:47
danielothere is a binary version to10:47
lordievaderdanielo: Then do a manual install of the driver.10:47
danieloa binary version10:48
lordievaderdanielo: Read this for the how to: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/295.59/README/index.html10:48
danielothanks10:49
BluesKajHowdy all12:47
gem_hi all12:58
BluesKajhi gem_13:03
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danieloHey guys13:26
danieloI would like to ask You about Your opinion about nouveau drivers13:26
danielohow they work?13:26
danielowhat are the diference between them and properity drivers from nvici13:27
danielonvidia*13:27
asierhola, se puede forzar a kwin a que ponga los efectos que yo quiera por una sesión (P.D.: uso Kubuntu 12.04)13:28
asierhello, you can force kwin to put the effects I want for one session (PS: use Kubuntu 12.04)13:29
asiernobody?13:34
L3top!es | asier13:50
ubottuasier: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:50
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HarmoniumHello. Anyone knows how can I change the button used to move a window (currently Alt+drag) in KDE? I can't find the option in the system settings.15:59
mydognameisrudyleft mouse button?16:01
BluesKajHarmonium, you do't need alt to drag awindow just click hold & drag16:02
HarmoniumNo, you can drag a window from anywhere, not just the title bar, if you hold Alt and left click, but I want to change the key to Meta.16:03
HarmoniumUnder Gnome2 there was a "Window" setting under preferences. I don't know where it is on KDE.16:03
BluesKajtitlebar and toolbar are available for dragging ...seems enough to me :)16:05
HarmoniumBluesKaj: Well, not to me. I mean, I wouldn't come here asking for help and be happy to know someone else doesn't need that function.16:07
HarmoniumShould I try the main KDE channel?16:07
mydognameisrudyi would if i were you.16:07
SentynelHarmonium: system settings > window behaviour > window behaviour > window actions > modifier key16:08
HarmoniumSentynel: There it is! Fantastic! Thanks a lot. :D16:09
BluesKajheh, I don't have a meta key on this KB , Harmonium , that's why I didn't fully understand your question, didn't mean to be flippant16:22
mydognameisrudynot sure what that will do ? guess i have no use for it at this  point16:23
BluesKajthis kb is wireless , obviously doesn't have all functions for some reason16:24
mydognameisrudywhat is the alt key doing ?16:24
Joitits mainly like an other level, like alternative16:25
mydognameisrudyto drag a window?16:25
Joiterr, forget that :D16:25
mydognameisrudyoh you can drag it at any point inside the window16:26
mydognameisrudyah i c16:26
mydognameisrudy;)16:26
BluesKajyeah , butr why a meta key , does that save a step of some kind16:27
mydognameisrudynot to me alt key is closer to touch pad16:27
mydognameisrudyleason #1 learned something new today ;)16:28
BluesKajnot me , I'm still confused about what a meta is and what it does :)16:29
mydognameisrudywell mine is set to the alt key and you can hit alt+drag at any  place in the window and move it16:30
mydognameisrudyif you hit the left mouse key to drag it will click a button or action instead16:30
HarmoniumI need it to be Meta because I use that function and I use Photoshop and Alt+click does something I need, but if it's both set to Alt, then I'll move PS instead of performing the action I want.16:32
mydognameisrudyHarmonium:  thanks i learned something new ;)16:33
HarmoniumNo problem. I find it more useful if it's Meta, since that key will not interfere with many programs.16:36
Pingatorhi does someone here know about the source code of kmix? i want to find the place, where the increment of volume on hotkey press is defined16:40
MiguelitoHello - having some issues with them manager and was wondering if someone could help16:45
PingatorMiguelito: theme manager?16:45
Miguelitoyea - its called Desktop Theme - just see it as the tool to change your Desktop Theme16:46
dnivrahello. I running Kubuntu 12.04 on a sony vaoi vgnfw260j. My left button on my touchpad has stopped working-the right button works fine. Could someone tell me how can i make the left touchpad button work?16:48
Miguelitojust getting back into Linux and Ubuntu was highly recommended and last night I upgraded to kubuntu16:49
PingatorMiguelito: what are the issues?16:51
Miguelitoi select the new theme and apply but the change is not taking effect16:51
Pingatorworkspace theme is just changing widget borders and background maybe they look similar16:53
Pingatorwindow decoration is yeah window decoration16:53
Pingatorand there is also an application design for changing the colors of greyspace and text16:53
Miguelitono I downloaded some themes that look way different than the default16:54
Pingatorgive me the name of the theme, i just have a vanilla kubuntu 12.04 here16:54
Miguelitoone sec'16:55
MiguelitoSlim Glow is the one I tried changing to at the moment16:56
Pingatorin which category?16:56
hoijuii want to install kubuntu on a machine, preserving its partitioning layout and the data on /home16:57
hoijuithe system uses RAID1 and LVM16:57
PingatorMiguelito: readme says you neednt download it, its in the repositories in a kdeartwork package16:57
hoijuithe kubuntu instaler does not seem to support RAID (and i guess neither LVM)16:57
hoijuiis that correct?16:58
Pingatorhoijui: try the alternate cd, that installer has advanced settings16:58
hoijuithanks Pingator! :-)16:58
Pingatorhoijui: the livecd installer is for some reason kept very simple and straight16:59
MiguelitoPingator, I just clicked install through Desktop Theme and applied it. I dont see a category16:59
Pingatori mean in which kde settings module16:59
Pingatorthey are 2 main modules with each shaving submodules17:00
Pingatorlol shaving17:00
hoijuiman.... now even the dudes on the internet shave their "sub modules" ?17:00
hoijuiwheres this worl going wiht all that metrosexuality17:01
PingatorMiguelito: um uninstall the theme from the settings and apt-get install kdeartwork*17:01
Pingatorit should be in there17:02
Pingatorhoijui: shaven submodules are less likely to itch17:02
dnivrahello. I running Kubuntu 12.04 on a sony vaoi vgnfw260j. My left button on my touchpad has stopped working-the right button works fine. Could someone tell me how can i make the left touchpad button work?17:03
hoijui:/ maaaaan you really doin it!!17:03
hoijuito my knowledge, you would have to shave them very often for this to hold true though..17:03
Pingatorlol17:03
hoijuii.. heard17:03
Pingatoryes actually it would be far more convenient if you could just control hair growth at will17:04
hoijuiyeahhhh17:05
Pingatordnivra: i had a sony vaio, is the button physically working?17:06
dnivraum could you tell me what you mean by physically working?17:07
dnivrai can tap it and it's going down but the click response doesn't happen. i can't click command buttons(Ok, cancel etc) or even click and select text.17:08
Pingatordnivra: like not being stuck such17:08
dnivraleft button worked fine till yesterday. now it doesn't.17:08
dnivramaybe I could get some info from the logs that could help? I didn't find any in the syslog-are synaptik events logged somewhere else?17:09
Pingatordnivra: there is a terminal app for checking the raw output from hardware keys but i cant remember the name17:09
dnivradmesg?17:09
Pingatorno dmesg doesnt show key events17:10
dnivraah got it. xev.17:10
Pingatoryes17:11
dnivrai ran xev and it detects motion and right button down but not left click.17:11
Pingatorwas there any update in between which could have tampered with the touchpad?17:12
Pingatorif not its likely a mechanical problem17:12
dnivralet me check the history of updates.17:13
dnivrai just check and found that xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse and xserver-xorg-input-evdev today. Guess that's what caused the problem Pingator?17:15
Pingatorvmmouse ist just for virtual machines17:17
Pingatorwhen was the update?17:18
dnivraah okay. what about the other one? input-evdev?17:18
MiguelitoPingator, I have that innnstalled - how do you access that17:18
Pingatormight be *googling for packet description*17:19
dnivraPingator: about 3:30AM UTC.17:19
Pingatoryes evdev is a thing which autoconfigures support for mice and their extrakeys and scrollwheels, so likely for touchpads too17:20
Pingatorhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bugs?field.status:list=NEW17:21
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Pingatorlook there if your bug is already posted17:21
Pingatori dont think its posted17:25
Pingatordnivra: can you read german? would be convenient because there is an awesome ubuntuwiki in german17:26
dnivrasure! i'll try making sense using google translate17:26
Pingatorhttp://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/evdev i think its faster when we both search17:27
dnivraPingator: sure. I'm on it now.17:31
Pingatordoes the translator work well? long time since i used it. i dont use it often as i can read german english and spanish. i recently tried to use it for reading japanese pages but it was really bad17:33
dnivramakes some sense to me. think I could manage with it.17:34
hoijuiusing the alternate install image... i loaded it onto a USB stick using unetbootin, but ...17:34
hoijuione of the steps of the install process is, checking and loading installer stuff from the CD17:35
hoijuiand.. that faisl cuase i am not using a CD but a USB stick, i guess17:35
hoijuikind of strange though.. that would mean nobody on a netbook could use an alternate installer17:36
hoijuicould i use the ubuntu installer and later convert ubuntu to kubuntu?17:36
Pingatori actually used it on a netbook17:37
hoijuimmm17:37
Pingatorthere is one option for loading components from the image and one for downloading from the net17:38
Pingatorany message why it fails?17:38
hoijuithe install step is called: "Detect and mount CD-ROM"17:38
hoijuihmm...17:38
hoijuii dont see that option..17:38
hoijuino message, no17:39
exaIns^hoijui: are you also having problems with the alternate installer not mounting the cd? :)17:39
Pingatorno it just worked17:39
hoijuiexaIns^, yes17:39
Pingatordid you partition the usb stick somehow before using unetbootin?17:39
exaIns^Interesting, I'm here for pretty much the same reason.17:39
hoijuii dont have a CD though, am booting from an USB stick17:39
exaIns^same here17:40
hoijuiyes, i formatted with ext417:40
Pingatorcould be the problem17:40
hoijuithen i put the normal kubuntu isntaller on it, and then the alternate one17:40
exaIns^I formatted mine with FAT32. Didn't help.17:40
Pingatorthe ubuntu usb stick creator does format it to fat32 and then copies the image and makes it a fake cd17:41
exaIns^hoijui: Does your normal installation also freeze when you're just about to partition the drive?17:41
hoijuiexaIns^, did you also put the normal installer on the stick first?17:41
exaIns^yes, but formatted it beore putting the alternate on.17:41
hoijuiexaIns^, no, i never tried to go that far, as i need raid nad lvm support, which hte nromal installer does not have17:41
hoijuiPingator, no17:41
exaIns^oh, I'm just using the alternate because the normal installer freezes.17:41
hoijuiunetbootin does not format the stick at all17:42
Pingatortry just formatting it with one fat partition and then copy the image with usb-creator-kde17:42
Pingatoruse disk utility (apt-get install palimpsest) its imo the best partitioner available, the same like on macs17:42
exaIns^What if you're a dirty windows user?17:43
hoijuiPingator, also.. the install menu main screen reads: "Ubuntu installer main menu"17:43
TheLordOfTimeuse unetbootin ?17:43
TheLordOfTimesorry wrong channel17:43
hoijuiPingator, but... this smells fishy...17:44
Pingatorthen wait in the image could be an exe version of the usb creator, can you mount the iso in windows?17:44
hoijuiif the alternate install only works when using a special way of setting up the usb stick...17:44
hoijuias in.. oyu already need kubunut to install kubuntu..17:45
hoijuior at least follow a list of special steps17:45
TheLordOfTimeactually17:45
Pingatorunetbootin often messes up isos for me17:45
TheLordOfTimeafaict all the installers for all ubuntu derivs are that way17:45
TheLordOfTimeif yo ucant use a usb use a cd/dvd17:45
Pingatorthey cant because netbook17:46
TheLordOfTimeif that doesnt work, try unetbootin17:46
TheLordOfTime(for your USB)17:46
TheLordOfTimeif *that* doesn't work, well...17:46
Pingatorthey used unetbootin17:46
hoijuiTheLordOfTime, i am using unetbootin ;-)17:46
TheLordOfTimedid they hash-sum the ISO17:46
TheLordOfTimemake sure the download was complete?17:46
exaIns^TheLordOfTime: I have the same problem, so I doubt it's got to do with that.17:46
hoijuiwe both having an fialed iso download .. with the fail in the smae place..17:47
hoijuinot likely17:47
Pingatorits very easy for a download to be unfinished even with just a few bytes17:47
hoijuiand again my question..17:47
hoijuican i install ubnutu and later switch to kubuntu?17:47
exaIns^I've tried several different versions and downloaded several times :)17:47
Pingatoryes you can install the metapackage kubuntu-desktop to add kde as desktop17:48
TheLordOfTime^17:48
hoijuiok.. thanks :-)17:48
hoijuii guess i also need the ubuntu alternative image for RADI and LVM support?17:48
Pingatoryes17:49
Pingatorbut17:49
Pingatori have another idea for you17:49
Pingatorpartition the usbstick new, no format, then do dd if=/path/to/your/image.iso of=/your/usb/device17:50
Pingatorbut wait which of you does have a linux distro ready? or both not?17:51
Pingatorbecause unfortunately i dont have a windows ready to check XD17:53
hoijuii do17:55
hoijuiok thanks.. i will try that17:55
faglnari am Pingator18:00
faglnarjust switched computer Pingator is not regisered18:00
hoijuifaglnar, did you also use the alternative image when installign on the netbook?18:01
faglnaryes18:01
hoijuiok18:01
faglnari used usb-creator-kde to put the image on18:01
hoijuii dont have to do anything t make the stik bootable?18:02
hoijuiok18:02
faglnarno18:02
faglnardd if of does work only as root and make SURE its the right device and it doesnt overwrite anything valuable18:03
dnivrafaglnar: the german wiki to me to a page that asks me to add entries to xorg.conf. I did add entries for the mouse section but still doesn't work on logout/login-the left button doesn't work.18:05
faglnarthe xorg conf isnt used by default18:06
faglnarwait18:06
faglnarbrbr cat destroys house18:07
hoijuiok, now testing with the dd'ed version18:13
hoijuinope, does nto boot from that18:13
hoijuithe download is correct18:14
hoijuidid an md5sum check18:14
faglnarthen i told you wrong then just put a new partition table on the stick and change the output of dd to /dev/sdx118:16
faglnaror it just doesnt work to dd the alternate disk, in that case id try usb-creator-kde again18:17
faglnarcat regained temporary sanity18:18
faglnardnivra: sudo Xorg -configure creates the initial configuration file18:28
dnivraoh okay! and I have to just add the mouse related entry once the initial conf file is created right?18:29
dnivrafaglnar: i tried the command but it says X server is already running. is that normal-I've to poweroff X server to create the conf file?18:31
dnivrais there someway perhaps i could rollback to the version before the update to check if it works?18:34
BluesKajdnivra, yes , drop to a TTY , then sudo service kdm stop , sudo xorg-configure, then sudo service kdm start18:35
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BluesKajdnivra, that's not a roll back18:35
dnivraBluesKaj: yeah got it :).18:35
BluesKajto drop to the TTY , do ctl+alt+f118:36
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faglnara roll back, maybe if the old version is still in the repo you could specify the version number on install if you know it18:42
dnivrafaglnar: i ran the command you gave me but it exited with return code 2-http://pastebin.com/cKqrzxPG18:42
faglnardnivra: did you run it as root?18:44
dnivrafaglnar: yes.18:44
faglnartry it while x is down like BluesKaj said with kdm stop18:45
dnivraI followed BluesKaj's instructions properly.18:46
dnivrai did poweroff kdm just like what he said and restarted it after the Xorg -configure command exited with code 2.18:46
faglnarhm any more details from it?18:54
dnivrathe paste i all that I have: 2-http://pastebin.com/cKqrzxPG18:55
dnivraoops typo: http://pastebin.com/cKqrzxPG18:55
lordievaderGood evening18:55
L3topevening18:57
faglnaruse the command again with -verbose18:57
faglnar"Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices." wtf18:58
faglnarevening18:58
BluesKaj'afternoon , lordievader ")18:59
lordievaderHey L3top, BluesKaj, how are the both of you?19:00
dnivrafaglnar: yeah that's what puzzled me too. Here's the verbose output - http://pastebin.com/Pm5FETPL19:00
L3topjust hacking away at lmce... how are you?19:00
BluesKajfine thanks , lordievader  and you ?19:01
lordievaderI'm doing well. Rested quite a bit.19:01
lordievaderFiddeling a bit with the pulse audio config.19:02
faglnardnivra: i dont quite get it19:05
dnivraoh! well here's something which crossed my mind-does it have something to do with the fact that keyboard and mouse is disabled?19:06
dnivramaybe in the enabling process, left button wouldn't work?19:07
faglnartry stopping kdm and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-evdev19:08
pietro10Hi. I installed from a LiveUSB to an external hard drive. My laptop is telling me the external hard drive is not bootable, even though the installer told me it would put a bootloader on the right drive. gparted is telling me the ext4 partition is marked as bootable. What else can I do? Thanks.19:09
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dnivrafaglnar: just did that. i even reconfigured xserver-xorg-input-synaptiks and xserver-xorg-input-mouse. but no luck still :/19:13
BluesKajpietro10, have you run sudo Updte-grub since the install ?19:13
faglnardnivra: rebooted?19:13
BluesKajerr sudo update-grub19:13
dnivraoh! restarting kdm isn't sufficient?19:14
dnivrawell anyway to be on the safe side, i shall restart and come here.19:14
faglnardnivra: thats the most frequent thing i forget19:14
pietro10BluesKaj: no, but I'll try that now19:15
pietro10since I need t oinstall to an external drive to recover my main HDD, is there a special command line tha tI should use?19:15
BluesKajpietro10, why are you installing an OS to the external drive ?19:18
pietro10so I can have something to boot off and use19:19
lordievaderpietro10: If you need to recover files why not use a live-cd and then copy the files to the external?19:19
pietro10after I do make an image of the internal disc, so I can still hav esomething to use until I can get my computer's case repaired, since I have a feeling it's something loose that's causing the HDD to go bad19:20
BluesKajpietro10, you can recover grub with the live-cd19:20
pietro10yeah that's wha tI'm about to do19:21
BluesKajthen you don't need to install an OS to your external drive19:21
dnivrafaglnar: ah okay. well I've rebooted and issue still exists. i even booted up an older kernel 3.2.0.24 and it still doesn't work.19:21
faglnardnivra: can you rearrange the touchpad button assignment in the control panel?19:25
faglnari dont see it because i dont have a touchpad19:25
dnivraoh! That's okay I'll describe the panel. which do I assign a new value to? in touchpad config, there're 4 options: hardware, cursor motion, scorlling and tapping.19:27
pietro10ok it appears my drive is on /dev/sda19:29
pietro10what is the proper update-grub command to fix GRUB? sudo update-grub and sudo uptdate-grub /dev/sda give me errors about / not being found (is /dev unmounted) or something like that19:29
lordievaderpietro10: Read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows19:31
pietro10thanks19:31
dnivrafaglnar: i'm leaving now-it's 1am here and I should get some sleep. If you do come across something, please PM me-i'll check it when I return. Thanks a lot for your help!19:37
dnivraBluesKaj:  you too-thanks a lot!19:37
dnivrai'll drop by later on then. catch you all then hopefully!19:37
faglnardnivra: yes will do, dont expect it today even if its early 22 i will sleep too19:37
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hoijuifaglnar, i though i found the solution... in the boot menu of the alternative install image, i chose "Expert Install"20:01
hoijuibut then it would only install from network20:01
hoijuito call it expert install makes little sense, if it just changes the install medium from cd to network20:02
hoijuiit should be called network install then20:02
hoijui.. network does not work on that machine ;-)20:02
faglnari actually used expert install from cd20:02
faglnarexpert normally gives more options like installing ssh server or similar20:03
hoijuii dont see an option like that20:04
hoijuiwow.. the bootmenu is a mess! :D20:04
hoijuiit has more then 20 entries20:04
pietro10Ok, after running Boot-Repair, the hard disk is still being rpoerted as non-bootable20:04
pietro10?20:04
hoijuiand many of them have very similar names20:04
hoijuifor example:20:05
hoijuiexpert20:05
hoijuiExpert Install20:05
hoijuiInstall in expert mode20:05
hoijuiand others are similar too20:05
faglnarthats the fault of unetbootin and the reason i dont recommend using it for (k)ubuntu20:05
hoijuiah.. its from unetbootin20:05
hoijuimm20:06
faglnardid you try the ubuntu usb creator?20:06
hoijuii would need kde for that?20:06
pietro10"No boot sector on USB device."20:07
hoijuiahhh20:07
hoijuiok.. i will try that one now20:07
faglnarthere is a kde and a gtk verison20:07
faglnarand its always preinstalled un u and ku buntu20:08
faglnarusb-creator-gtk and usb-creator-kde are the binaries20:08
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hoijuifaglnar, indeed... now it does not fail anmore to find the cd20:27
hoijuithanks :-)20:27
faglnarnp and yay20:28
hoijui:-)20:29
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pietro10_!compiz20:36
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz20:36
pietro10_?20:36
pietro10_ok that's generic ubuntu instructions20:36
lordievaderpietro10_: Kwin is to kde, what compiz is to gnome.20:37
pietro10_I need a specific feature of compiz: Enhanced Zoom Desktop20:37
pietro10_it's the only adequate zooming facility I see on Linux20:37
lordievaderpietro10_: There are several zoom things available within kde, have you checked the Desktop Effects section in System Settings?20:39
pietro10_ah yes, that works nicely20:42
pietro10_thanks20:42
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microInsAfter many tries and a broken windows installation I'm installing kubuntu 64 bit in advanced mode because nothing else has worked so far. Which kernel should I use?21:11
linuxshinewhats new in kubuntu 12.10?21:16
faglnarnot much i think. its mostly 12.04 with i think a newer small version of the kernel and a bunch of updates21:21
microInsAfter many tries and a broken windows installation I'm installing kubuntu 64 bit in advanced mode because nothing else has worked so far. Which kernel should I use?21:21
faglnaryoiuhave to choose between 3?21:21
microInsLike 2021:22
pietro10_on the GRUB menu?21:22
faglnartell me which21:22
faglnarne the installer21:22
microInsI'll send you a pic, one sec21:22
faglnark21:22
microInsTyping this on my phone so I'm keeping it as short as possible :)21:23
microInshttp://www.imgur.com/5WSFx.jpg21:24
pietro10_apparently linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic21:27
microInsThank you!21:28
microInsInstalled. When I boot I come to tty1.21:33
pietro10_you probably did not install X properly21:33
pietro10_try using the simple installer instead21:33
microInsI can't, it freezes21:34
microInsFor some reason my computer can't handle live sessions, installers.21:35
TheLordOfTimetry an older version (for testing)?21:36
TheLordOfTimeif your system cant handle the live sessions it likely won't handle installed from the hard drive21:36
microInsIt's the same with all distros.21:37
microInsI was afraid of that.21:37
TheLordOfTimehow old's the system21:38
microIns8 months21:39
microInsIt's good enough.21:39
microInsSandy bridge 2500k21:39
microInsNvidia 58021:39
pietro10_is there a program I can use to determine whether or not my SATA controller is not picking up anything or if my hard drive is just derping21:44
ronromim running kde but the gnome apps appear with too big fonts and running "kcmshell4 kcmgtk" and enable gtk apps to use kde fonts isnt doing any changes, any help?21:54
faglnarpietro10_: hdparm21:58
pietro10_thanks21:59
nafgI have Konsole set as Show a Launcher When Not Running, on the Icon-Only Task Manager (taskbar). When I reboot when Konsole was running, it starts up again since the session is saved and restored. The taskbar thinks it's not running though so clicking the icon starts a new instance.22:03
nafgOn the other hand there is no "running" icon for Konsole, so it's employing contradictory logic.22:03
nafgOr it doesn't know that there is a Konsole application running, period.22:03
casapkpokpokop22:30
lorddeltahelp? why won't my sound work properly? It works, but something's screwy with kmix? I don't know, I don't really know where to start. VLC/Amarok/Juk/Dragon Player all complaing about various libraries not being installed, but play/flashplayer work just fine with sound22:36
kestencan anyone give a hand with the diff command?22:44
kestenI want to do $ diff -p1 dir1/stuff dir2/stuff > stuff.patch with the p1 to strip off the first directory level, but i think this is an "svn diff" not the utility diff of the command line.22:47
nafgkesten: What?22:55
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lorddeltaWell hopefully nearly solved my problem.23:21
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NoiseCounsellorOdd. Is there any reason that some GTK-based (synaptic and gparted) applications should sometimes fail to launch from menus, krunner or panels, but always show up successfully when launched from Terminal, as in 'kdesudo program;'?23:52
NoiseCounsellorSpecifically, the password prompt shows up, I enter password, the launching courser/icon animation plays a short while longer and nothing happens23:54

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