[00:23] ok, minidlna is way better. smaller and faster [00:46] brousch: Yeah, I wouldn't use the Squeezebox server for DLNA [00:46] interesting that it worked [00:46] but definitely check out the audio clients [00:47] i run squeeze all day at work [00:47] i just wish the web interface was a little nicer and a little quicker [00:47] Yeah, it is a little long in the tooth [00:47] but it works, and on my system it is low-footprint [00:48] yup [00:48] it works great and is awesome. [00:48] brousch: Which version of the Squeezebox server were you running? [01:16] dunno. whatever was on the web site [02:58] http://meridionalerecordings.bandcamp.com/album/antropofagus-blues [02:59] "Vanir is drug abuse, pure decadence. Sounds like putting a cat into a pool of blood. Metal is for children, satan is for dummies." [02:59] And this sounds like what happens when you put a bus station in a feedback loop [03:05] http://viralconspiracyrecords.bandcamp.com/album/the-desastamasta-th3-s3cond-fiv3 <- Iswear, I need to put in a google exception for this label [03:05] I hav nothing against them putting out their music, but man, it puts me right off [03:55] i don't like, i keep programming in a style like the java conventional style [03:55] since thats what most people use [03:55] but the brakets on the end of the line look really stupid [03:55] even after seeing it for like a year [03:56] Try the Pascal style, where the bracket is on a separate line. :) [03:56] what makes me want to pull my hair is that people put the bracket on the end of the line, but then leave a blank line anyways [03:56] yea braken goes on new line [04:07] frankly the easiest to look at is gnu style http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indent_style#GNU_style [04:07] the indentation [04:08] ohhh wait [04:08] that space [04:11] gnu style has that space, I never realized that... how come I never noticed that [04:11] its horrible [04:12] yea frankly if your going to do the braket at the end of the line instead of the newline the go full lisp/python style http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indent_style#Lisp_style [04:13] but without that space [04:13] man [04:13] if I ever run a company [04:13] i'm going to have my own style guidelines [04:14] and there is going to be no discussion about it [04:16] I'm going to that lambda lounge thing weds [04:45] I might start using the underscore for private class variables [04:45] I saw it in some java code recently and at first was like, thats unnessisary [04:46] but now I've been thinking about it as I write code and I think it makes sense [04:55] I'm so glad I did that app for soundcloud [04:56] and I'm doing this bookie app [04:56] my head is getting so much clearer about how to put one together [04:56] and I'm catching up also [05:13] One style issue that I am embarrased to report I have no opinion on is spaces vs tabs [05:13] I feel like I should have one [05:13] but I just want everyone do do the same thing and then i'll configure my editor [05:14] I don't ever want to manually indent code [05:14] so I'm never hitting space or tab and I don't really care which is used [10:54] derekv: 4 spaces, always [10:55] make your tabs 4 become 4 spaces [10:56] derekv: Here is your style guide http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ [11:40] did someone say coding style/guidelines? :P [13:53] if you are stuck on style you are doing it wrong. [13:53] learn to read any style. [13:53] set your mind free. [13:55] damn dirty hippie [13:58] Honestly, that's the best policy (do as the Romans do) [13:59] if there's an accepted convention for how X code is supposed to look, it's probably best not to buck that convention [13:59] ie: writing camelcase in Python for all variable names. [14:02] yup [14:03] yet python has unittest [14:03] *RAGE* [14:03] enlighten why that's a rage moment? [14:04] unittest.TestBaes has a member called setUp [14:04] and its assertEquals [14:04] assertGreaterThan [14:04] its java [14:04] its not pythonic [14:05] but it came from Python [14:05] er, Java [14:06] If it's trying to port functionality from another language's package, I have less problem with keeping the variable names similar to the original language [14:06] Yes, it isn't native [14:07] but if it makes someone's life easier porting between the two, then OK [14:08] jrwren: but try to keep to a style. I always say that I don't care what style you use, as long as it's documentted/kept to [14:10] That's the big thing [14:10] yeah, styles nice. [14:10] i say fuck it and write all my code on one line [14:10] snap-l: it didn't come from python. [14:10] snap-l: it didn't come from java. [14:11] wow, look at that, i did it too. [14:12] jrwren: where did it come from? [14:36] kent beck [14:36] first impl was smalltalk [17:14] brousch, not for python [17:32] It works in other languages too [19:22] nixternal: That Java video is great, save for it's not real [19:22] nobody loves the JVM. ;) [19:37] oh no, lots of people LOVE the jvm. [19:37] i think they are nuts [19:37] but they do. [19:37] hell, google loves teh jvm. [19:38] Damn hippies. [19:52] you forgot the dirty [21:00] http://supermoney.bandcamp.com/album/snatched-the-throne-ep [21:06] http://kobilacroix.bandcamp.com/track/jeremy-the-ninja <- lol [21:24] my new desktop is built! finally! :-D [21:25] snap-l: do you see what I'm doing wrong here? http://paste.mitechie.com/show/707/ [21:25] gamerchick02: congrats! [21:25] thank you! [21:25] i've got my desktop and the Air. [21:26] just gotta install mint or something else my mom can use easily to the laptop and give it to her [21:26] she's a total newbie to linux and i don't have an extra windows license for her. does anyone recommend something windows-like to put on the laptop? [21:26] i need to be able to admin it easily. [21:27] snap-l: nevermind I see what's wrong. Maybe I'll just skip the hash_id fk reference. [21:42] rick_h_: What was the trouble? [21:58] snap-l: hash_id isn't anything special on the bmark table, it's part of a unique index, but only with username [21:58] so using that as a FK reference doesn't work from the db side [21:59] Ah [21:59] Wonder if it was bitchy because hash_id wasn't guaranteed unique? [22:00] yea [22:01] and lovely psql won't read in an sql file generated by pg_dump because of escaped crap..ugh, this is going to suck updating the live site [22:01] What version of pg_dump? [22:02] should be 9 I think. checking [22:02] yea, 9.0.5 [22:03] Rush is the subject of a 3-page feature in the latest issue of Terrorizer magazine titled Times of Grace. <- OK, I think Road Runner is promoting the fuck out of Rush way too much [22:03] Terrorizer is mostly black metal / death metal [22:03] That's strange that it would have escaping problems. [22:04] so we've got a music and programming discussion going on at the same time? :-D [22:04] and i'm elated that my desktop is built. [22:04] it's good news all around. [22:06] bah, yea choking on "viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4">viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4
you'll want to use that instead." [22:06] trying to load live data [22:06] Oh that sucks [22:07] ah, it is COPY format, that's why I think [22:08] tried to just do flat sql format so I can tinker with it more because I need to basically recreate/reload the db with the new migrations/etc [22:08] and there are going to be constraint violations in the current data I just know it [22:36] gamerchick02: Kubuntu 12.04 for your Mom [22:37] really? ok. it's stable and all that? *goes off to download* [22:37] yep [22:38] cool. last time i tried Kubuntu i couldn't grok it. [22:38] for some strange reason. *shrug*