[09:52] <theblaze> Hi everyone please check out the Ubuntu-za channel in zello. Zello is a cross-platform push to talk client which works on windows,  Linux (with wine),  android, iPhone and blackberry
[09:53] <theblaze> Data usage is quite low
[09:53] <Banlam> why isn't there a dedicated version for linux?
[09:54] <theblaze> They haven't developed one 
[09:54] <Banlam> well yeah, but are they going to
[09:56] <theblaze> Not sure
[09:57] <theblaze> Ill submit a request
[09:57] <Banlam> ag, i was just curious
[09:57] <Banlam> how are you involved wtih Zello, or are you purely a user?
[09:58] <theblaze> Just a user
[09:58] <Banlam> cool
[09:58] <theblaze> But try it out its quite nice
[09:59] <Banlam> will give the mobile version a go later
[09:59] <theblaze> are u ios,  blackberry or androud
[09:59] <theblaze> Cool
[09:59] <Banlam> android
[09:59] <theblaze> Good me 2
[09:59] <Banlam> i'm quite content with my desktop client atm
[10:00] <theblaze> Ur irc client? 
[10:00] <Banlam> XChat
[10:01] <theblaze> I'm talking about " [11:59] (Banlam) i'm quite content with my desktop client atm"
[10:01] <Banlam> yes
[10:01] <Banlam> i'm using XChat on my desktop
[10:02] <theblaze> OK btw this isn't irc in case you understood wrong 
[10:02] <Banlam> oh right
[10:02] <Banlam> i see now
[10:02] <Banlam> i just assumed
[10:03] <Banlam> because you mentioned viewing this channel with it
[10:03] <theblaze> Nah. Its a push to talk program eg.  Push a button and u can talk 
[10:04] <theblaze> Made a channel with same name 
[10:04] <Banlam> :)
[10:06] <theblaze> Yeah
[12:54] <smile> hi :)
[12:55] <Kerbero> o/
[13:12] <charl> hi smile 
[13:12] <charl> hi Kerbero 
[13:37] <smile> hi charl :)
[13:37] <smile> how are you? :)
[13:59] <charl> smile: i'm good thanks yourself?
[13:59] <charl> this channel is a bit slow today
[13:59] <charl> oh here's Kilos !
[13:59] <Kilos> afternoon all
[13:59] <smile> hallo Kilos :)
[13:59] <charl> hi Kilos, how's your weekend been going
[13:59] <smile> charl: I'm fine also :)
[13:59] <Kilos> had big modem vodacom hassles since last night
[13:59] <smile> :o
[13:59] <smile> Kilos: you fixed it? :p
[13:59] <charl> ah no, that sucks, what happened
[14:00] <Kilos> pidgin and xchat couldnt connect 
[14:00] <smile> :s
[14:00] <Kilos> my modem normally shows green when connected, was showing red which it never does
[14:01] <Kilos> 1 bar signal strenth on nm and then 3 then 1 
[14:01] <Kilos> grrr
[14:01] <Kilos> must be vodacom
[14:01] <charl> yeah weird
[14:01] <charl> glad it's better now so you can come back on irc :)
[14:01] <Kilos> i think its the mobile provider smile 
[14:01] <charl> being offline sucks
[14:02] <smile> Kilos: no good provider out there? :o
[14:02] <Kilos> yeah sucks being offline
[14:02] <Kilos> nope smile. each as bad or worse than the next
[14:02] <smile> Kilos: Do you know - you were offline about 20 years ago - could you imagine? :)
[14:02] <Kilos> all well here guys?
[14:02] <theblaze> kilos why don't you get an adsl line? 
[14:02] <smile> yes i'm fine, thanks Kilos :)
[14:03] <charl> theblaze: adsl? now it is going from bad to worse :)
[14:03] <charl> my mom uses that, not good
[14:03] <Kilos> no lines to the plot theblaze fone wires got stolen too often so telcom refused to replace them
[14:03] <theblaze> Eish
[14:03] <charl> yeah i had that same story even in crowthorne 10 years ago
[14:04] <charl> crowthorne in midrand
[14:04] <charl> this is ironical, we were living right behind a telkom satellite station and still had no copper cable just a few kilometre down the street
[14:04] <charl> i think it was called mercury road
[14:04] <Kilos> lol
[14:04] <charl> yeah can you believe it
[14:05] <theblaze> Kilos , Charl: did u see what I posted about zello. 
[14:05] <Kilos> nope
[14:06] <Kilos> posted where
[14:06] <theblaze> [11:52] (theblaze) Hi everyone please check out the Ubuntu-za channel in zello. Zello is a cross-platform push to talk client which works on windows,  Linux (with wine),  android, iPhone and blackberry
[14:06] <charl> linux with wine.... eish :)
[14:06] <charl> you have to use it drunk?
[14:06] <charl> just kidding :)
[14:06] <Kilos> lol wine has crashed me a coupla times
[14:06] <theblaze> Nit sure hey
[14:06] <charl> yeah no i don't want to touch it
[14:07] <charl> i used wine a few times with varying results
[14:07] <charl> besides, i prefer to drink beer :)
[14:07] <Mezenir> hi all
[14:07] <charl> especially if it's belgian beer
[14:07] <theblaze> Kilos, Charl: that sucks. Was hoping I could use Linux for gaming
[14:07] <theblaze> Only play open source then I guess
[14:08] <Mezenir> valve confirmed they are working on a steam client for linux
[14:08] <Kilos> theblaze, lots of guys do but im still on 10.10
[14:08] <Mezenir> so it is coming
[14:08] <Kilos> so old wine and all
[14:08] <charl> theblaze: you can try steam if you want https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam_under_Linux
[14:08] <theblaze> Yeah I know about steam coming. Ea too I think
[14:08] <theblaze> Still don't have a PC :/
[14:09] <Kilos> eish
[14:09] <theblaze> Yeah.  Motherboard replacement costs r3500
[14:09] <charl> that's quite expensive just for a motherboard
[14:09] <charl> 350 euro? you could buy a whole new pc for that
[14:10] <theblaze> 3500 Rand and I know
[14:10] <Kilos> wow
[14:10] <theblaze> Going to get CPU and ram from laptop then build a pc
[14:11] <charl> brb
[14:13] <theblaze> Pity I can't save the graphics card ... but it was nvida anyway
[14:13] <Kilos> lol
[14:14] <theblaze> Does anyone know if intergrated graphics are part of CPU or motherboard? 
[14:14] <smile> theblaze: you don't need nvidia ;)
[14:14] <smile> theblaze: it's integrated on the motherboard, I think :)
[14:15] <theblaze> I know :) shit
[14:15] <theblaze> Gina need a goodish motherboard then
[14:16] <smile> theblaze: I have AMD :) (ATI)
[14:16] <theblaze> Cool. Intergrated ?
[14:17] <smile> no. A card :)
[14:17] <smile> & Intel integrated graphics, I think
[14:19] <theblaze> OK. I don't think Intel intergrated graphics is too bad is it? 
[14:20] <theblaze> At the moment I can probobaly spend r500
[14:21] <smile> theblaze: no, it works fine. :)
[14:22] <smile> I only need the video card for my bad monitor, which needs the RAM inside the card
[14:22] <theblaze> Good. And the prices?  Can I get one under r500
[14:22] <theblaze> Lol
[14:22] <theblaze> I want to be able to play waste land 2
[14:29] <Kilos> theblaze, what does your mb do exactly
[14:30] <theblaze> What do you mean? 
[14:30] <Kilos> they dont often crash beyond repair
[14:30] <Kilos> here and there
[14:30] <Kilos> what happens when you try boot
[14:31] <theblaze> It switches on but doesn't display anything. It starts fan etc but not the screen. Then it switches off after about 5 secobds
[14:31] <theblaze> Seconds *:
[14:32] <Kilos> and if you go into bios and leave it there does it also switch off?
[14:33] <Kilos> or only after bios has loaded
[14:34] <theblaze> It doesn't switch screen on and I can't remember which kek
[14:34] <Kilos> oh so you dont even see the bios setup?
[14:35] <smile> theblaze: well, mine was about 950r :)
[14:35] <theblaze> Yep
[14:35] <Kilos> theblaze, lappy?
[14:35] <theblaze> OK gotta save up for a few more months then
[14:35] <theblaze> Kilos ys
[14:35] <theblaze> Yes*
[14:35] <Kilos> eish
[14:36] <theblaze> Pretty good one too. Almost perfect compatibility on linlap. Com
[14:36] <Kilos> try taking it to the agents or a good pc shop and ask for a quote on repairs
[14:36] <Kilos> what make?
[14:37] <theblaze> We took it to Acer and they said r4100 for mobo and labour
[14:37] <theblaze> Acer aspire 5741g 
[14:37] <Kilos> whew they not shy hey
[14:38] <theblaze> Yep.  In the meantime a USB stick with persistence is good dnough
[14:40] <Kilos> booting from where theblaze ?
[14:40] <theblaze> School has computers
[14:40] <Kilos> sorry if i ask stupid questions
[14:40] <Kilos> oh ok
[14:41] <smile> theblaze: well, I don't know how much you earn :p
[14:41] <theblaze> my parents give me r50 per week
[14:43] <charl> lol
[14:43] <charl> that is not going to go very far
[14:43] <charl> that's 5 euro
[14:43] <theblaze> Yeah.  Have to save up for a few months
[14:43] <charl> phew no kidding
[14:44] <theblaze> Currently at about 50 euro
[14:56] <theblaze> Just a question : which is best - vi or emacs 
[14:57] <Kerbero> nano :P
[14:58] <theblaze> hoping to start flame war :(
[14:58] <theblaze> Yeah nano  is quite nice
[14:58] <charl> vim
[14:58] <charl> vi is for the old school
[14:58] <charl> nano is for noobs
[14:58] <charl> emacs are for gnubies
[14:58] <charl> *is
[14:58] <theblazephone> +1 to charl
[14:59] <theblazephone> Btw what is different between vi and vim 
[14:59] <charl> vim is vi improved
[14:59] <charl> it is the awesomesauce
[14:59] <charl> and has extra desu
[14:59] <theblazephone> I know it stands for improved. What is improved? 
[14:59] <charl> it also has more win and more nyan
[15:00] <charl> also more caramell
[15:00] <charl> sheesh i just referenced like 10 memes
[15:01] <theblazephone> Haha yeah
[15:03] <theblazephone> Watch #linux :)
[15:09] <Kilos> whew too many peeps there
[15:14] <charl> brb going out to the shop to get something to eat
[15:14] <charl> on my own tonight
[15:14] <Kilos> lol ok charl 
[15:16] <theblazephone> Posted question on omegle as well.  Don't think people will know what I'm talking about
[15:18] <theblazephone> Question to discuss: vi or emacs
[15:20] <theblazephone> Question to discuss: Linux is the best os
[15:20] <theblazephone> Faith in humanity restored
[16:17] <charl> lol
[16:18] <Kilos> ?
[16:39] <Kilos> yo psydroid 
[16:40] <Kilos> really serious winter in pta tonight
[16:40] <Kilos> hi goar superfly inetpro nuvolari 
[16:40] <superfly> hi Kilos
[16:40] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[16:40] <psydroid> hi zeref
[16:41] <psydroid> Kilos, doesn't the heating work?
[16:41] <psydroid> hi superfly
[16:41] <Kilos> no man some took the sun away
[16:43] <superfly> hi psydroid
[16:54] <Kilos> superfly, please tell everyone i say hi there. its much too cold to sit here tonight
[16:54] <superfly> OK
[16:54] <Kilos> night all you guys. sleep tight
[16:54] <superfly> kry warm oom
[16:55] <Kilos> ty
[16:55] <Kilos> sjoe. sal probeer dankie
[17:45] <charl> are there any recommendations for buying a new laptop?
[17:45] <charl> my old one is getting... well... old
[17:48] <tumbleweed> thinkpad x1 is probably available soon
[17:48] <tumbleweed> I see the x230 has appeared, but still has a fairly low screen resolution
[18:34] <charl> tumbleweed: yeah at this point i am strongly considering the thinkpad
[18:34] <charl> that might be a good route to go after all
[18:37] <smile> bye :)
[18:58] <Mezenir> if you want to use truecrypt look for a laptop which cpu supports aes-ni instructions
[19:09] <charl> that's a good tip Mezenir although i don't really use truecrypt
[19:10] <Mezenir> oki
[19:10] <Mezenir> im definitetly going for that in my next laptop thou
[19:11] <charl> could make a difference indeed
[19:19] <Mezenir> gnite all
[19:49] <charl> nn all
[20:05] <Banlam> "You can find a kulula plane at the following destinations: ...George (Near PE and Knysna) George Airport ..."
[20:05] <Banlam> van wanneer af is george naby aan PE?
[20:06] <Banlam> wrong channel :/
[20:07] <superfly> Banlam: but a good question
[20:08] <Banlam> indeed
[21:30] <Guest2099> hi
[21:31] <zeref> herro
[21:31] <Guest2099> hw r we
[21:31] <zeref> we are good :D
[21:33] <nathi> cool...am Nathi...from East London
[21:33] <superfly> hi nathi, come to find out if there are any other Ubuntu users in East London?
[21:33] <zeref> welcome to ubuntu-za
[21:33] <superfly> I know there's a Vijay on the mailing list who lives in EL
[21:34] <nathi> yeah something like that...
[21:34] <superfly> nathi: Are you using Unity, or Gnome Shell?
[21:34] <nathi> hey...thanks for welcome
[21:35] <superfly> or are you a KDE fan?
[21:35] <nathi> not sure what's that is all abt...jst new here...
[21:36] <zeref> o0
[21:36] <nathi> ma bad...what u guys chat abt here?
[21:36] <zeref> mainly about ubuntu linux distribution
[21:36] <magespawn> Evening all
[21:37] <superfly> hey magespawn
[21:38] <superfly> nathi: it's a free alternative to Windows
[21:38] <magespawn> Hey superfly
[21:38] <magespawn> Newcomer?
[21:38]  * superfly needs to get some sleep
[21:39] <superfly> magespawn: uh, I guess you could say that
[21:40] <superfly> yeah, go away twit
[21:40] <superfly> we don't need any desperate guys looking for girls to sext
[21:40] <superfly> %^$%^$% chatmosphere
[21:41] <zeref> when i saw that i was like *sigh*
[21:41] <superfly> zeref: that's why I instantly launched into talk about Unity/Gnome/etc
[21:42] <zeref> lol
[21:42] <superfly> as soon as they see that we're not a bunch of girls waiting for desperate guys, they quit
[21:42] <magespawn> That is just sad. If you can't talk to people face to face how are going to do it here.
[21:43] <magespawn> Do any girls do that?
[21:43] <superfly> anyways, I need to get some shuteye... night guys
[21:43] <zeref> perma ban *.@chatmosphere.org
[21:43] <zeref> ciao superfly 
[21:45] <magespawn> Later superfly
[21:45] <magespawn> I always miss the interesting ones.
[21:47] <zeref> btw magespawn: since its holidays i'e started working on my little python project, im just busu readiing up on using Git, then i'l put it there.
[21:51] <magespawn> Holidays? zerefnarenyou a student or a teacher?
[21:51] <zeref> student
[21:51] <magespawn> zeref are you a student or a teacher?
[21:52] <magespawn> Ahh right. What are you studying?
[21:52] <zeref> comp eng
[21:52] <magespawn> I seen to hit n when going for the space bar
[21:52] <zeref> troll keyboard
[21:52] <magespawn> Nice.
[21:53] <magespawn> Lets us know when it is up, I will help when I can.
[21:54] <zeref> cool
[21:57] <magespawn> Touch screen keyboard, and typing with my thumbs AND not reading what I type before I hit send.
[22:14] <magespawn> Well with that I am off too, night all