[00:00] <fuzzynurfhurter> its the true and it hurts
[00:00] <BrixSat> gr33n7007h:  i feel so stupid that you cant even imagine :S
[00:00] <BrixSat> OerHeks:  solution found.
[00:00] <genii-around> fuzzynurfhurter: They can very harsh in #bash , it is true.
[00:01] <Guest72876> hey guys, is it normal that ubuntu installation is taking more than 4h ?
[00:01] <BrixSat> thanks OerHeks gr33n7007h ;) im the most stupid guy in the world right now
[00:01] <fuzzynurfhurter> i just trying to get alittle help
[00:02] <fuzzynurfhurter> theres not a soul in #knoppix either lol
[00:03] <fuzzynurfhurter> it keeps telling me sh: cant find tty: jobs is turned off i dont know nothing on it lol
[00:04] <fuzzynurfhurter> im trying to use yuni now to make the same live usb and see if that helps or not
[00:06] <killown> Why fullscreen always goes on primary display with TwinView?
[00:07] <killown> I wish get VM working in fullscreen on the secondary monitor, but I haven't found any way
[00:09] <bekks> killown: You can set that in the settings of the vm (when using vbox).
[00:09] <killown> bekks, can you point me where is this settings?
[00:10] <tristan__> bonsoir
[00:10] <tristan__> bonjour plutot
[00:11] <bekks> killown: start the vm, switch to fullscreen, a small toolbar will appear. In that toolbar, you can set the screen which should be used when fullscreening. Switch back to normal mode, switch to fullscreen again. Done.
[00:12] <JoshuaBranson> Is there a command that will let you know if a device in mounted?
[00:12] <JoshuaBranson> is*
[00:12] <bekks> "mount"
[00:12] <luckyphuq> joshuabranson: just type mount without any arguments
[00:12] <JoshuaBranson> thanks!
[00:15] <ColdFire> is there anyway to move the "unity bar" to the bottom of the screen, or keep it hidden regardless of mousing over in that area?
[00:16] <OerHeks> ColdFire, i use my-unity to tweak hide and settings
[00:16] <mavri> Hello everybody!
[00:17] <roy76> hello
[00:18] <mavri> I need some help about User Account rights to read/write in internal HDD. When I create a new user It is not able to read/write in the HDD that the default/root user can. How could a solve this inconvenient/problem?
[00:19] <killown> bekks, thank you, worked
[00:19] <roy76> I am currently seeking assistance with a boot screen resolution problem.
[00:19] <bekks> killown: yw
[00:19] <roy76> it appears that it has something to do with the nvidia drivers
[00:20] <OerHeks> mavri, add that account to the sudoers file > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[00:21] <zykotick9> OerHeks: it appears that link hasn't been updated to 12.04's "sudo" group (vs the old "admin")
[00:21] <mavri> Thank you OerHeks, I will try what you suggest and then I'll let you know how it went.
[00:23] <roy76> anyone willing to help resolve a low resolution boot screen issue on Ubuntu 12.04LTS?
[00:23] <OerHeks> zykotick9, well admin group  is also mentioned here > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers#The_Default_Ubuntu_Sudoers_File
[00:24] <zykotick9> OerHeks: could you check your sudoers file?  is it admin or sudo that is specified?
[00:24] <JoshuaBranson> When someone says RTFM....what manual are they referring to?
[00:24] <OerHeks> good test, moment
[00:24] <jungejas_> harushimo: I kinda solved the problem :)   Before I login, there is a ubuntu icon which I can click. It allows me to choose Ubuntu 2D, Ubuntu 3D. I can log into the 2D one!
[00:25] <luckyphuq> Joshuabranson: type "man command" and you will get the man page for that command
[00:25] <luckyphuq> man=manual
[00:25] <zykotick9> JoshuaBranson: "man man" ;)
[00:25] <JoshuaBranson> thanks luckyphuq
[00:25] <OerHeks> this is mine > http://paste.ubuntu.com/1056769/
[00:26] <mavri> OerHeks, has it to be so hard to do this? This is a basic task. Jsut think about it. You create a new account and just need to read your hdd as usual. I remember that I could do this in previous Ubuntu releases. Do I have to be forced to edit a complex file for this matter?
[00:26] <zykotick9> OerHeks: ah, so BOTH admin and sudo work ;)
[00:27] <mavri> OerHeks, nothing user friendly about my basic problem.
[00:27] <zykotick9> OerHeks: but, i don't know what the difference betwen %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL and %sudoALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL is?
[00:28] <MonkeyDust> mavri  "user friendly" depends partly on how familiar you are with it
[00:28] <OerHeks> i think it is the same as # uncomment ?
[00:29] <mavri> MonkeyDust, you are not right. User friendly is just "user friendly" You cannot expect a user editing text files to be able to see their disk drives.
[00:29] <roy76> which steps are recommended to resolve a boot screen resolution issue on Ubuntu 1204 LTS?
[00:30] <OerHeks> just add that account to the admin group, is correct zykotick9 ?
[00:30] <zykotick9> OerHeks: sudo has (ALL:ALL) but admin only has (ALL)
[00:30] <linga> hai, mengapa ubuntu tidak disertakan multimedia codecs?
[00:30] <mavri> OerHeks, GUI for this matter?
[00:30] <zykotick9> OerHeks: it certainly used to be that - but with 12.04 i'd say sudo is a better group to use
[00:30] <MonkeyDust> linga  english please
[00:31] <uhausy> hey, what's the easiesy way to disable the grub screen after a crash - or at least to give it a timeout/default?
[00:32] <zykotick9> uhausy: check for setting in /etc/default/grub (you need to run "sudo update-grub" after making any changes.
[00:32] <JoshuaBranson> Is there a list of all available kernel modules and what they do?
[00:32] <linga> okay, why ubuntu CD/DVD without multimedia codecs?
[00:32] <OerHeks> mavri, "sudo adduser <username> admin " in the first account you created, should give sudo priv to that account.
[00:32] <bekks> JoshuaBranson: That are 3000+, and they are documented in the official kernel documentation.
[00:32] <JoshuaBranson> thanks bekks!
[00:32] <MonkeyDust> linga  because of legal issues, closed source, among others
[00:33] <trism> zykotick9: sudo can take any group as well as any user, admin can only take any user (try for fun say: sudo -g daemon ls; when in admin verses in sudo)
[00:33] <Jordan_U> uhausy: The *easiest* way is to add "timeout=5" to /boot/grub/custom.cfg (creating the file if it doesn't always exist). That will mean that you'll always get exactly a 5 second timeout on the menu, crashed or not, though.
[00:33] <zykotick9> trism: thanks - but i can't test (no sudo here)
[00:33] <ColdFire> if you are on 12.04 on gnome classic (no effects) how do you enable the window snaps to the sides (dragging window to the left or right and it halfing the window)
[00:33] <mavri> thank you, OerHeks !
[00:34] <squeeeshieDA> i know this is ubuntu, but there's no one in GIMP, how do I organize my brushes?
[00:34] <ColdFire> in compiz grid is already checked
[00:34] <G00GLE> Hi
[00:34] <bekks> ColdFire: Since you arent using compiz that will have no effect.
[00:35] <ColdFire> bekks i have compiz enabled
[00:35] <GoogIe> Hi! I cant find...
[00:35] <squeeeshieDA> anyone...anyone else really good with GIMP
[00:35] <linga> MonkeyDust, thanks
[00:36] <OerHeks> !google
[00:37] <GoogIe> so
[00:37] <JohnTeddy> Is there software that comes with Ubuntu by default where I can take hundreds or thousands of images and roll them into a motion jpeg video?
[00:38] <MonkeyDust> JohnTeddy  openshot
[00:39] <JohnTeddy> MonkeyDust: That isn't installed on Ubuntu by default.
[00:39] <uhausy> ty Jordan_U
[00:39] <MonkeyDust> JohnTeddy  openshot has 'import image sequence'
[00:39] <Jordan_U> uhausy: You're welcome.
[00:40] <mavri> OerHeks, sudo adduser venGshell admin
[00:40] <i7c> JohnTeddy: why so important that it comes with ubuntu?
[00:40] <mavri> result: adduser: The user `venGshell' does not exist.
[00:40] <zykotick9> mavri: i don't think usernames can have capital letters
[00:40] <mavri> OerHeks, sudo adduser vengshell admin
[00:40] <linga> GoogIe, i love your nick
[00:41] <mavri> result: adduser: The group `admin' does not exist.
[00:41] <bekks> zykotick9: Actually, that doesnt matter :)
[00:41] <JohnTeddy> i7c: Less dependencies.
[00:42] <GoogIe> linga, Thanks :D
[00:42] <mavri> zykotick9, you are right, I fixed it, but even that, It says that admin group does not exists. OerHeks
[00:42] <zykotick9> bekks: on my system, if i try to capitalize anything in my username - it won't let me log in...
[00:43] <zykotick9> mavri: try to use the "sudo" group instead of admin
[00:44] <mavri> ok, zykotick9
[00:44] <optim677> hi..   how to join a new channel...  like #haskell
[00:44] <zykotick9> optim677: /join #haskell (or /j #haskell)
[00:44] <mavri> zykotick9, result: The user `vengshell' is already a member of `sudo'.
[00:44] <zykotick9> mavri: ;)
[00:44] <zykotick9> mavri: are you the hd permissions question?
[00:45] <zykotick9> mavri: 'cause that doesn't really have anything to do with sudo
[00:45] <mavri> zykotick9, It already was a sudo user from almost the beggining, and even that I cannot read the hdd's with this user.
[00:46] <zykotick9> OerHeks: you might want to check if there even is an "admin" group on your system - i think the sudoers file is just written for backward compatility
[00:46] <zykotick9> mavri: it's a permission issue.  is this fat/ntfs parition?
[00:48] <john84848> hi. i'm using ubuntu 12.04 unity 3d. I am having troubles to lock vlc to the left panel. It doesn't behave the same way other applications do. For example, (left) clicking on it doesn't bring it to front, but creates a new instance. Any way around that ?
[00:49] <OerHeks> zykotick9, mavri standard there is no user/group control gui, i have to run "sudo apt-get install gnome-system-tools" to get this 'back'
[00:51] <OerHeks> i see adm, no admin
[00:51] <optimight> hi
[00:51] <zykotick9> OerHeks: so, with 12.04+ you need to add users to "sudo" group
[00:58] <xangua1> john84848 did you set on vlc preferences to only allow one instance¿
[00:59] <john84848> I did not do anything, it's a fresh install from the repo.
[01:00] <john84848> But now that I've tried it, even if I set it to allow only one instance, the issue remains
[01:07] <vanderj> GoogIe
[01:09] <killown> I am trying to install this app https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/screencloud/  from http://screencloud.net/pages/download-linux and its free, but in software centre its available only for buy, bizarre bug...
[01:15] <i7c> killown: what makes you think it is free?
[01:15] <i7c> killown: license: proprietary  (quote of the page you linked)
[01:16] <killown> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/screencloud-lets-you-take-share-ubuntu-screenshots-quickly
[01:16] <killown> Screencloud is a free download, available from the Ubuntu Software Center.
[01:17] <i7c> killown: well i just opened my software center. look at the price :D mine says 0.00$ weird.
[01:17] <killown> i7c, yes
[01:17] <killown> mine too
[01:18] <i7c> killown: mhm dunno. seems to be a mistake but i dont know how to get around that.
[01:20] <joint> ubuntu is taking over windows on the desk top
[01:21] <init[dot]d> rejoice!
[01:21] <init[dot]d> down with the doze
[01:21] <KornKage2> 2012 year of ubuntu
[01:21] <KornKage2> year of linux
[01:23] <Pinkamena_D> hello
[01:23] <physically_fit> who's having trouble posting on twitter? i can't post since 10 minutes ago. does anyone have this problem?
[01:25] <Pinkamena_D> i am running a web server and it can server the website fine but can not connect to the internet "normally". for example it can not use apt-get or lynx. any ideas?
[01:26] <ox1de> simple question: how does one delete a window partition after installing ubuntu on a partition?
[01:26] <Pinkamena_D> sudo gparted?
[01:26] <ox1de> windows*
[01:26] <init[dot]d> ox1de, did you boot the cd?
[01:26] <ox1de> i havent made the partition yet
[01:26] <ox1de> i am just considering it
[01:26] <ox1de> because my windows machine is being laggy
[01:26] <init[dot]d> just boot the cd it will walk you through it
[01:27] <ox1de> ok thankz
[01:27] <init[dot]d> np
[01:27] <Jimmy_Chunga> i recently discovered that my libre office spell check isn't working anymore and i don't know if it was a recent program i installed or not.
[01:27] <Jagst3r15> hello everyone
[01:27] <Pinkamena_D> hello
[01:27] <Jagst3r15> can i install ubuntu over windows?
[01:28] <Pinkamena_D> "over" meaning what exactly
[01:28] <Jagst3r15> like override the windwos isntall (get rid of it) and just have ubuntu
[01:28] <Pinkamena_D> of course
[01:28] <Pinkamena_D> but back up your data first
[01:28] <Jagst3r15> do i need to buy the cd or can i make my own
[01:28] <JohnTeddy> How can I print the current idle time from dbus? dbus-monitor --session "type='signal',interface='org.gnome.ScreenSaver.GetSessionIdleTime'" ... that doesn't seem to work.
[01:28] <Pinkamena_D> you can make your own, if you have a usb stick you can just use that (if the motherboard supports boot from usb)
[01:29] <Jagst3r15> i can use cd?
[01:29] <Pinkamena_D> yeah
[01:29] <Pinkamena_D> just buy blanks
[01:29] <Pinkamena_D> burn it
[01:29] <Jagst3r15> i think i have virus on windows but i hate it anyway
[01:29] <Jagst3r15> so virus go away and then i have ubuntu
[01:29] <Jagst3r15> thats my plan :)
[01:30] <Pinkamena_D> sure, if you want to really kill it , low level format your hard drive
[01:30] <Pinkamena_D> (again, back up your data first unless oyu really dont care)
[01:30] <Jagst3r15> not sure how to do that unfortuantley
[01:30] <Pinkamena_D> download the ultimate boot cd
[01:30] <Jimmy_Chunga> Jagst3r15: ubuntu still gets viruses but its so rare and uncommon that technically ubuntu is virus-free :p i love it.
[01:30] <Pinkamena_D> its in there under hard drive utilitys
[01:31] <Jagst3r15> this comp is at its end of life so i figure i might as well ride it out with ubuntu
[01:31] <Jimmy_Chunga> Jagst3r15: good show old bean :p0
[01:31] <Pinkamena_D> what comp is it
[01:31] <Jagst3r15> it is actually not bad
[01:31] <Jagst3r15> but it is dell
[01:32] <Pinkamena_D> i still make use of my ibm l40 sx
[01:32] <Pinkamena_D> eww dell
[01:32] <Jagst3r15> ye
[01:32] <Jagst3r15> makes me barf to use it
[01:32] <Sarah> Dell's live long lifes... Sometimes...
[01:32] <Jagst3r15> lol
[01:32] <Pinkamena_D> nope
[01:32] <Pinkamena_D> i bought a 3.5k laptop from them
[01:32] <Jimmy_Chunga> can anyone help me? my libre office spell check as stopped working, i checked the writing aid under options and everything looks like it's there. i have hunspell there and ticked. so am i missing something. was it due to me installing a recent program? i installed golden dictionary recently.
[01:32] <Pinkamena_D> the graphics ram got corrupted in a couple of y ears
[01:32] <Sarah> Pinkamena_D, I said "sometimes" as in "perhaps not your time" :)
[01:32] <Jagst3r15> i may get new vizio comp with windows 8 in a year or so
[01:33] <Pinkamena_D> ok
[01:33] <Pinkamena_D> but can anyone help me with my problem
[01:33] <Jimmy_Chunga> Pinkamena_D: what's yours?
[01:33] <matty> nope
[01:34] <Pinkamena_D> i have a web server that uses the network fine to serve the websites it hosts, but it can not connect to the internet for like apt-get
[01:34] <Jimmy_Chunga> durrrr... @_@
[01:34] <Jimmy_Chunga> <:D dunce
[01:34] <Jimmy_Chunga> Sorry :/
[01:34] <Pinkamena_D> owell
[01:34] <Sarah> This channel is quickly becoming a favourite.
[01:35] <Jagst3r15> i love open source stuff
[01:35] <Pinkamena_D> i am sorry i insulted your dell
[01:35] <Jagst3r15> im a web developer and love wordpress :)
[01:35] <Sarah> My Dells' lovely!
[01:35] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, same
[01:35] <Pinkamena_D> wordpress is not working correctly
[01:35] <Jagst3r15> y
[01:35] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D, can you ping hosts?
[01:36] <olbaidiablo> Exit
[01:36] <Sarah> s/hosts/intarweb hosts
[01:36] <init[dot]d> wordpress is awesome
[01:36] <trism> JohnTeddy: I don't see that method on org.gnome.ScreenSaver in 12.04 (may try d-feet to locate the method you want), but dbus-monitor just watches for messages on the bus an prints them, it doesn't send one
[01:36] <Jagst3r15> wordpress > drupal and joomla
[01:37] <Jagst3r15> xcept maybe drupal for ecommerce
[01:37] <Pinkamena_D> no it cant
[01:37] <trism> JohnTeddy: you want something like: dbus-send --session --dest=org.gnome.ScreenSaver --print-reply / org.gnome.ScreenSaver.GetActive
[01:37] <init[dot]d> hrm
[01:37] <Jimmy_Chunga> does anyone know what's wrong with my libreoffice?
[01:37] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D, sudo dhclient
[01:38] <Pinkamena_D> ok that fixed it
[01:38] <tking> i have dual boot Windows and Ubuntu.... my problem is on ubuntu and windows i cant copy and paste files to external hard drive from my internal hard drive partion
[01:38] <BudLight> !ops
[01:38] <Pinkamena_D> what does that do
[01:38] <BudLight> !staff
[01:38] <BudLight> !ops
[01:38] <mrdeb> hi, can someone help change fixed width font in lxde, not gnome. obconf/lxappear cannot do it. pls
[01:38] <FloodBot1> BudLight: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D, assigns an IP to you
[01:38] <BudLight> mrdeb fuck u
[01:38] <Pinkamena_D> what
[01:38] <Pinkamena_D> but its static
[01:38] <mrdeb> ?
[01:38] <Pinkamena_D> if i didnt have an ip how could i SSH in
[01:39] <Sarah> Pinkamena_D, having an IP doesn't constitute it being a static one.
[01:39] <init[dot]d> well if you cannot connect to an outside host I am not sure
[01:39] <Jagst3r15> wheres the ultimate boot cd again?
[01:39] <init[dot]d> unless the issue lies in your hosts file, DNS, or some module
[01:39] <Sarah> Jagst3r15, on the intarwebz. I'd suggest www.google.com.
[01:39] <Jagst3r15> duh
[01:39] <Pinkamena_D> i suggested trhat once
[01:39] <Jagst3r15> :)
[01:40] <Pinkamena_D> then everyone told me off
[01:40] <Pinkamena_D> *shrug*
[01:40] <Sarah> init[dot]d, if there was a module error then the server wouldn't have been reachable at all.
[01:41] <Jagst3r15> pinkamena_D do i need the ultiamte boot cd?
[01:41] <Pinkamena_D> also about the wordpress thing before, i use ecommerce and after i updated it it just shown the product title on the product page
[01:41] <Jimmy_Chunga> can someone please help me with my libreoffice?
[01:41] <Sarah> Jimmy_Chunga, buy MS Office! O.o
[01:41] <Pinkamena_D> you want that cd if you want to low level format, which will gurantee that any virus is gone
[01:41] <Pinkamena_D> (it writes all zeros to the hard drive)
[01:41] <Jimmy_Chunga> Sarah: hey, i love ms office... but i can't use it on ubuntu. wine won't lemme install it.
[01:42] <Jagst3r15> i dont think its a serious virus and whats the odds that it lives when i install ubuntu?
[01:42] <init[dot]d> Sarah, do you intend on actually helping anyone in here or are you just here to belittle and lulz
[01:42] <Pinkamena_D> not much
[01:42] <Pinkamena_D> you will most likely be fine
[01:42] <Sarah> init[dot]d, I haven't quite decided yet. Although I do think I gave you a pointer in regards to modules. :)
[01:42] <Jagst3r15> i like risks anyway ;)
[01:42] <jrdnn> Jagst3r15 if you install and wipe out the current partition a virus could still be saved on the hard drive somewhere but the new operating system's filesystem would have nothing pointing to it to run it so getting a special CD and doing a low level format shouldn't be needed
[01:42] <Jagst3r15> k
[01:43] <init[dot]d> Sarah, I already knew it but thats for attempting to do something
[01:43] <init[dot]d> ish
[01:43] <Sarah> Hehe, ish :)
[01:43] <Jimmy_Chunga> i don't mean to push anything here, but my libreoffice won't spell check anything for me.
[01:43] <marcin82> what's the time? ;P
[01:43] <JohnTeddy> $ sleep 30; dbus-send --session --dest=org.gnome.ScreenSaver --print-reply / org.gnome.ScreenSaver.GetActive
[01:44] <JohnTeddy> method return sender=:1.78 -> dest=:1.9163 reply_serial=2   boolean false
[01:44] <init[dot]d> Jimmy_Chunga, is that the only thing not working?
[01:44] <JohnTeddy> trism: Which of that output is the amount of idle time I had?
[01:44] <Sarah> marcin82, 03:43!
[01:44] <marcin82> :)
[01:44] <JohnTeddy> trism: I didn't touch my computer after I hit that command, so I should have roughly 30 seconds of idle time, yes?
[01:44]  * Sarah helpful
[01:44] <bazhang> Sarah, stop that
[01:44] <marcin82> if you are from Poland - yes it's 3:43 ;]
[01:44] <Jimmy_Chunga> init[dot]d: yes. i mean i'm not familiar with libreoffice but from what i can tell it is. spell check works on other things though. like this chat box i'm typing in with my terrible punctuation.
[01:45] <init[dot]d> lol
[01:45] <Sarah> bazhang, stop what?
[01:45] <ox1de> how can i transfer files between partitioned windows/ubuntu?
[01:45] <Jimmy_Chunga> init[dot]d: was that 'lol' at me?
[01:45] <marcin82> tallking about the time?
[01:45] <bazhang> Sarah, enough nonsense. stop it
[01:45] <Jagst3r15> ok so then i just go to setup and erase my hard drive and then install ununtu?
[01:46] <marcin82> bazhang - calm down
[01:46] <marcin82> ...
[01:46] <marcin82> that was joke ...
[01:46] <init[dot]d> Jimmy_Chunga, actually there is a spell checking issue with libreoffice
[01:46] <marcin82> ........
[01:46] <FloodBot1> marcin82: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:46] <init[dot]d> google libreoffice not spell checking
[01:46] <bazhang> marcin82, this is not the jokes channel. take it elsewhere
[01:46] <marcin82> ok, sorry
[01:47] <ox1de> ?
[01:47] <Jimmy_Chunga> i've already googled it, and i've checked under tools>options>language & settings>writing aids and the hunspell is ticked. so i assume hunspell is the dictionary that's supposed to spellcheck things?
[01:48] <Sarah> Aww, no jokes? :(
[01:48] <init[dot]d> Jimmy_Chunga, try this link I think it will help your issue http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=46031
[01:48] <Jagst3r15> init[dot]d ok so then i just go to setup and erase my hard drive and then install ununtu?
[01:49] <init[dot]d> the spell check is a seperate download
[01:49] <Jimmy_Chunga> init[dot]d: this is for openoffice?
[01:50] <Jimmy_Chunga> maybe i should try uninstalling and reinstalling libreoffice?
[01:50] <init[dot]d> Jimmy_Chunga, if your going to be using Ubuntu get used to reading
[01:50] <trism> JohnTeddy: the command I gave only returns if the screensaver is active or not, it was just an example, I couldn't find the method you want (again, try d-feet to look through the methods and see what is available)
[01:50] <init[dot]d> the second post states "The help file is a separate download from http://www.libreoffice.org/download. See viewtopic.php?f=74&t=16512 for some tips on spell check."
[01:50] <ox1de> how can i transfer files between partitioned windows/ubuntu?
[01:50] <Jimmy_Chunga> ok thanks i'll check into it.
[01:50] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, are you using the Live CD?
[01:50] <Jagst3r15> i am about to burn a copy
[01:51] <Jagst3r15> i only have winsows 7 now
[01:51] <init[dot]d> ox1de, can you mount the Dozer?
[01:51] <Jagst3r15> but want only ubuntu
[01:51] <ox1de> whats a dozer?
[01:51] <ox1de> i havent installed ubuntu yet i'm just considering it
[01:51] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, then boot the live CD and choose install
[01:51] <ox1de> cuz win iz laggy
[01:51] <ox1de> but i wanna save all my crucial files
[01:51] <Jagst3r15> what do you mean by live cd?
[01:52] <init[dot]d> ox1de, back em up and store on a cloud drive
[01:52] <mavri> zykotick9, OerHeks : The partition I want to access is a NTFS partiton. Second, I will try to install gnome-system-tools, but I am not sure what I could do with this tool.
[01:52] <ox1de> what is a cloud drive?
[01:52] <tking> where can i upload links to image?
[01:52] <ox1de> is that like a usb flash?
[01:52] <Jagst3r15> ox1de its like skydrive, ubuntu cloud
[01:52] <ox1de> not familiar with that
[01:52] <Jagst3r15> u can store files there
[01:52] <Jagst3r15> bu uploading them
[01:52] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[01:53] <tking> i wantto show image of an error link
[01:53] <Jagst3r15> sorry init i should have googled myself :)
[01:53] <tking> Darael, hello
[01:53] <mavri> OerHeks, zykotick9 : btw, sorry for the late, I was here with my son and had to feed him. He is 2 year old :D
[01:53] <Jagst3r15> just want to makjre sure i do this right
[01:53] <init[dot]d> tking, google free image hosting
[01:53] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, its pretty simple really
[01:54] <init[dot]d> just download an older version like 10.xx or something that will actually work out of the box
[01:54] <marcin82> http://postimage.org => good image hosting
[01:54] <init[dot]d> most ubuntu "new" distros suck and have a LOT of flaws
[01:54] <Jagst3r15> 12.04 sucks?
[01:55] <marcin82> --yes
[01:55] <marcin82> Debian rulez ;]
[01:55] <mavri> OerHeks, zykotick9 : This partition is a ntfs because I need it to be shared with a Windows 7 OS libing in this machine. And, as far as I know, ntfs is far better than FAT32.
[01:55] <init[dot]d> Debian is sucking right now as well
[01:56] <Jagst3r15> init do u use 12.04?
[01:56] <init[dot]d> with the whole Im just gonna put this repo out of commision and let people get frustrated lol
[01:56] <IdleOne> !ot
[01:56] <tking> hello guys when am using my computer it goes off and shows this screen any help pls ? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/photo.JPG
[01:56] <marcin82> init[dot]d, no, Debian doesn't suck ...
[01:56] <chu> Guys, can we please keep this channel strictly for support. If you want to have general chit-chat (and talk about whatever sucking) please come to #ubuntu-offtopic. Not here. Thank you.
[01:57] <OerHeks> mavri those tools just adds groups & permissions to the dash menu, someway it is left out in 12.04
[01:58] <bazhang> marcin82, thats enough.
[01:58] <marcin82> enough, enough ;]
[02:00] <adil> ciao
[02:00] <adil> !list
[02:00] <tking> when using my computer it just went blank showing this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/photo%281%29.JPG waited for 15mins nothing happened and i hard to power it off and on and it show this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/photo.JPG and when it boots up, doesn't show where to enter password rather desktop boots up directly to show this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/photo%282%29.JPG. I will appreciated any help pls
[02:02] <init[dot]d> tking, reinstall
[02:03] <escott> tking, the first two are an oops.  so thats probably a driver issue. the third i have no idea on why it would boot to a keyring instead of a login screen
[02:03] <tking> init[dot]d,  Wow! will lost all files and installations right?
[02:04] <chronos> I own one dual 3.5" bay with raid (http://www.welland.com.tw/html/2bay/580j.html) that uses chipset JMB352 (which should support linux). I'm running ubuntu 12.04 in two machines and one of than recognize one of two hard disks, other any.  Someone maybe already seen this model  or chipset or know a way to go on, cuz I'm little lost.
[02:04] <nisdec> tking.. which parts do u have encrypted on ur system?
[02:04] <init[dot]d> from those pics it doesnt really look like your going to be missing anything
[02:04] <init[dot]d> is this a fresh install?
[02:04] <tking> not a fresh install
[02:05] <tking> init[dot]d,  i installed it about a week now and hv installed everything i need, and also installed my VMBOX
[02:05] <init[dot]d> what was the last thing you installed?
[02:05] <init[dot]d> what was going on before this issue?
[02:05] <tking> virtualBox, is there anything that will back everything up
[02:06] <tking> CCSM
[02:06] <init[dot]d> can you drop to a CLI?
[02:06] <tking> CLI
[02:06] <tking> i hv just uninstall CCSM now
[02:07] <init[dot]d> and then this happened?
[02:07] <init[dot]d> after uninstalling
[02:07] <tking> not sure, i did some settings and hv installled alot since yesterday
[02:07] <tking> nothing installed today i guess
[02:07] <john84848>  I'm having problems with vlc, it doesn't play mp4. Is that normal ?
[02:08] <ColdFire> john, it may be a codec issue, because mine plays mp4
[02:08] <ColdFire> you may want to search online for the codec, i do not know the commands for that
[02:09] <ColdFire> or actually now that i think about it, do you have the restricted ubuntu pack installed from the center? it also has codecs in it
[02:09] <haz3lnut> vlc doesn;t use codecs. it's all built in
[02:09] <ColdFire> haze, well mine works for mp4, so it must be a code problem
[02:09] <OerHeks> mp4 with drm i guess, vlc should play OOTB
[02:09] <nisdec> have u installed the ubuntu restricted extras john?
[02:09] <ColdFire> but like i said it could be because i have that pack of restricted stuff from software center i found
[02:10] <trism> JohnTeddy: best I found was: dbus-send --session --print-reply --dest=org.gnome.SessionManager /org/gnome/SessionManager/Presence org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Get string:'org.gnome.SessionManager.Presence' string:'status'
[02:10] <haz3lnut> john84848: is it all mp4 files or a specific mp4 file?
[02:10] <bazhang> ubuntu-restricted-extras is needed john84848
[02:10] <tking> escott, part encrypted how?
[02:10] <escott> tking, ?
[02:10] <john84848> bazhang: is it sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[02:10] <trism> JohnTeddy: returns 0 Available 1 Invisible 2 Busy 3 Idle (it seems like that's what gnome-screensaver uses now)
[02:10] <john84848> haz3lnut: I don't know I have only one in my possession at the moment
[02:10] <bazhang> john84848, yes
[02:11] <haz3lnut> lol
[02:11] <tking> escott, am saying can i back up my ubuntu installtion and virtualbox?
[02:11] <escott> tking, you install to virtualbox? then yes you can easily backup your vbox image
[02:11] <KorvinSzanto> Hey
[02:11] <haz3lnut> at any rate, vlc doesn;t use restricted extras. that's for gstreamer and totem
[02:11] <john84848> ......
[02:11] <tking> ok
[02:11] <KorvinSzanto> Is there a voice to text program for ubuntu
[02:12] <tking> escott, there is no system repair for ubuntu right?
[02:12] <tking> or system recovery
[02:12] <KorvinSzanto> voice control would probably be up that alley
[02:12] <init[dot]d> KorvinSzanto, have you tried "DragonTalk" in Wine
[02:12] <escott> tking, you can always boot to a livecd or a recovery single user system
[02:12] <init[dot]d> tking, nope
[02:13] <KorvinSzanto> haven't tried anything
[02:13] <KorvinSzanto> don't have wine installed
[02:13] <init[dot]d> unless you save a backup of everything to a tarball
[02:13]  * init[dot]d highly recommends it
[02:13] <tking> escott then what do i do when i boot to a livecd?
[02:13] <escott> tking, you would have to identify the source of the problem first
[02:14] <john84848> so how can I play mp4 files with vlc ?
[02:14] <escott> tking, if your kernel is oopsing then i would start there and try to figure out if there are any known issues with any drivers on your system
[02:14] <hylian> KorvinSzanto: I know I have seen Ubuntu running "dragon, naturally speaking" via wine. There is a youtube video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bNuBerGRuc
[02:14] <ethical> hlw guys
[02:15] <tking> escott i don't think so, bcos else it wud hv been probs
[02:15] <ethical> i've got a problem
[02:15] <haz3lnut> john84848: vlc path/to/mymp4file.mp4
[02:15] <init[dot]d> maybe your ethics are toohigh?
[02:16] <nisdec> ^^
[02:16] <hylian> ethical: what's the problem?
[02:16] <john84848> haz3lnut: no i doesnt work
[02:16] <tking> escott, i am sorry to bug u but i don't seem to know where to continue frome :)
[02:16] <init[dot]d> john84848, any errors? Or just exits and says "Nope"
[02:16] <ethical>  hylian : i'm running teamviewer on ubuntu 12.04 (lenovo g460) ..
[02:16] <haz3lnut> john84848: error message?
[02:17] <DarkAceLaptop> Grrrr... Ubuntu Software Center has problems on U12. On 10 it used to ask for password when clicking install, but U1's just does nothing. I have to sudo software-center to install anything >_>
[02:17] <ethical> teamviewer can't detect webcam attached to ma laptop
[02:17] <DarkAceLaptop> U12's*
[02:17] <john84848> haz3lnut: init[dot]d no, no error messages in the console when run from the console
[02:17] <ethical> is there any third party cam driver ? for linux
[02:17] <john84848> and no gui error messages either
[02:17] <init[dot]d> I told yall dont EVER EVER EVER download the new distro or distro-upgrade until about 6 months has passed since its release
[02:17] <nisdec> but any other program does ethical?
[02:18] <escott> tking, the second oops image is nice and complete
[02:18] <hylian> never heard of teamviewer before... can Ubuntu detect the webcam via another program? (i.e., cheese?)
[02:18] <tking> escott, what is oops
[02:18] <john84848> it is  just left black as if nothing happened (other than starting vlc, that is - as if no video had been opened)
[02:18] <ethical> yeah  it can
[02:18] <ethical> via gtalk ..
[02:18] <escott> tking, kernel bug
[02:18] <init[dot]d> hylian, Ubuntu wil NEVER work with a webcam
[02:18] <init[dot]d> lol
[02:18] <ethical> teamviewer is remote desktop sharing tool
[02:18] <init[dot]d> just my experience
[02:18] <haz3lnut> john84848: vlc -v myvideo.mp4
[02:18] <tking> escott, ok
[02:19] <hylian> init[dot]d: but I use a webcam several times a month. it works beatifully.
[02:19] <escott> tking, or at least it is close to complete. some stuff is missing above it
[02:19] <nisdec> I have a Microsoft Studio HD webcam and its working like a charm on ubuntu lol
[02:19] <bazhang> init[dot]d, thats not right. please dont spread FUD
[02:19] <hylian> ethical: i will have to do some digging into teamview to see what's going on, brb.
[02:19] <tking> escott are you saying u cud partially identify the probs?
[02:19] <ColdFire> can someone explain to me the purpose of KDE, is it for a more graphical effects interface, because i never see anything wrong with the standard releases of ubuntu, or any distro for that matter, and it seems kde is always 1 version below the lts's
[02:20] <ethical>  hylian :)
[02:20] <john84848> haz3lnut: there is a lot more info with that command line. Two of them keep repeating: [0x7f3b38cc4328] ps demux warning: found sync code               and              [0x7f3b38cc4328]   ps demux warning: garbage at input, trying to resync...
[02:20] <bazhang> ColdFire, #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[02:20] <jrdnn> ColdFire, it is an alternative to Gnome with a little more visual effects.
[02:20] <nisdec> and without unity
[02:20] <ethical> nisdec : try teamviewer .
[02:20] <nisdec> ok sec
[02:20] <escott> tking, not really. im not seeing enough to figure out where the oops came from
[02:20] <john84848> also: [0x7f3b38c01b08] ps demux warning: this does not look like an MPEG PS stream, continuing anyway
[02:20] <haz3lnut> john84848: looks like a boken file. "garbage at input, trying to resync"
[02:21] <john84848> but it wasnt broken until I rebooted
[02:21] <john84848> I was able to open it before
[02:21] <escott> tking, other than that your kernel is tainted and you are running PAE i can't see much
[02:21] <haz3lnut> that's a real problem then, maybe disk issues?
[02:21] <init[dot]d> It is possible to get a webcam working in Ubuntu I apologize maybe I should have said "In my experience getting a webcam to work with Ubunut across all applications and services is too much of a pain in the ass for me to attempt it"
[02:21] <ethical> cam working on,cheese, guvcview, gtalk but not on teamviewer
[02:21] <bazhang> init[dot]d, just dont answer
[02:21] <tking> escott,  PAE
[02:22] <ethical> it doesn't mean teamviewer is faulty
[02:22] <escott> tking, 32bit with more than 4gb of RAM
[02:22] <ColdFire> does anyone know a way to get a AIO (All In One) touchsmart pc hdmi ports to work with ubunt, so when you swtich inputs (when i say this i mean pc to TV) so you will have sound? it isnt picking up hdmi in the sound prefs. and i dont know anything with alsa mixer
[02:22] <Borillion> anyone know much about 3g modems ? what are these mutliple converters Im seening being attached? http://pastebin.com/xE2WAaVh
[02:22] <haz3lnut> john84848: your hard drive failing?  You may have other corrupted files besides 1 mp4
[02:22] <bazhang> Borillion, try ##hardware
[02:22] <tking> escott, its even 8 gb ram
[02:23] <john84848> haz3lnut: i hope not, and I don't think so, it's brand new
[02:23] <Borillion> erm ok
[02:23] <nisdec> how can i test it now ethical? just installed teamviewer
[02:23] <escott> tking, any reason why you are running at 32bit virtual machine instead of 64bit
[02:23] <ethical> now open  option ..and check out video/audio setting
[02:23] <tking> escott, i had problems i guess, driver problems
[02:24] <solangemauver> hola a todos
[02:24] <ethical>  nisdec : go to Extra ->option->video
[02:24] <tking> escott, do you mean the VirtualBox i installed on ubuntu which has a Windows 7?
[02:24] <martian> So I just restarted my laptop after applying some updates and my home directory is all strange now. I use an encrypted home directory and now I have two copies of ever folder and file in my home now it would seem. Any ideas why?
[02:24] <nisdec> well.. the microphone of my webcam is working, but I can't see any picture in the options of teamviewer
[02:25] <bazhang> !es | solangemauver
[02:25] <ethical> nisdec : yeah thats d prob .
[02:25] <solangemauver> muchas gracias
[02:25] <escott> tking, you certainly have 64bit windows, but you are running a 32bit ubuntu
[02:25] <hylian> ethical: I think it's because Ubuntu has detected and assigned the webcam already. I read an article about a bug teamviewer has where if the webcam is already assigned (an irq?) then it won't work, because teamviewer wants that webcam open and available for it to assign the webcam. Sorry, I might not have made much sense there.
[02:26] <tking> escott some stuffs didn't work when i installed 64bit
[02:26] <init[dot]d> stuffs like what?
[02:26] <escott> martian, two plaintext copies?
[02:26] <nisdec> that could be the trouble hylian .. I also have skype active
[02:26] <tking> escott,  i cant remember but i know it took me over 24hrs to instal this ubuntu due to 1 probs to the other
[02:26] <ethical>  hylian: i've tried this too... tried to uninstall all other cam tools
[02:27] <nisdec> then it's a teamviewer bug ethical
[02:27] <haz3lnut> john84848: sudo apt-get install gpac
[02:27] <ethical> but still ..not working ..teamviewer is the Best remote desktop sharing tool which comes with video chat, conferencing, and a l ot more
[02:27] <haz3lnut> john84848: mp4box -info myvideo.mp4
[02:27] <ethical> there is no alternative that i can use for teamviewer
[02:27] <init[dot]d> ethical, VLC
[02:28] <hylian> ethical: you could try this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/get-your-webcam-to-work-with-google.html it's not directly used for team viewer, but it was mentioned in another board about teamviewer...
[02:28] <martian> escott: I'm not sure what you're asking; I have two copies of .Xauthority and many other files, but only one .Xdefaults
[02:28] <martian> escott: two 'Downloads' directories, etc
[02:28] <escott> martian, ok. sounds like the ecryptfs loopback was mounted twice
[02:28] <ethical> init[dot]d :  vlc can show my cam ..but how it can be used for remote desktop sharing  plus video call?
[02:28] <escott> martian, if you logout and log back in does it fix itself? does a full reboot fix it?
[02:29] <ethical> hylian : thanks .. lemme check out  :) brb
[02:29] <init[dot]d> Oh you need an all in one app?
[02:29] <martian> escott: eek! Nope, I've since restarted twice
[02:29] <hylian> ethical: it can't. vlc is simply for audio/video playback.
[02:29] <escott> martian, thats not good
[02:29] <nisdec> Ethical Or u could try to loop the webcam to another virtual device and maybe teamviewer can detect that virtual device, but ask me how to do that
[02:29] <escott> martian, does it appear twice in "mount"
[02:29] <nisdec> don't*
[02:29] <init[dot]d> VNC I meant
[02:29] <init[dot]d> not vlc
[02:29] <ethical> i tried virtualbox ..
[02:29] <hylian> init[dot]d: ahh, i see. makes sense now. :)
[02:29] <martian> escott: nope!
[02:30] <escott> tking, im afriad i dont have much in the way of advice. i've been less than impressed by those hp envy's
[02:30] <tking> hmm
[02:30] <tking> thanks
[02:30] <tking> escott thanks u tried
[02:30] <john84848> haz3lnut: it's ok thanks for your help I got it working again by redownloading it. It's weird though that the file could get damaged even though it's only read from, rather than being modified by vlc
[02:30] <ethical> init: oops sorry ..yeah i tried VNC too.. but  ..
[02:30] <escott> martian, so mount only shows the one mounting of ecryptfs looped back onto $HOME
[02:30] <tking> escott i don't know where to find the image
[02:30] <hylian> tking: what is the problem, perhaps I can help? Then again maybe I have no idea, but I'm willing to listen.
[02:30] <ethical> it can't replace teamviewer
[02:31] <haz3lnut> john84848: something is amiss, be carefull
[02:31] <escott> tking, you can try and hit page break at the right time and maybe catch the bug
[02:31] <tking> hylian, thanks the problem is that,
[02:31] <haz3lnut> john84848: you overclocked or anything?
[02:31] <john84848> no
[02:31] <escott> tking, but that requires some careful timing (rather print screen)
[02:31] <haz3lnut> john84848: I had random file corruption when I was overclocked one time.
[02:31] <tking> when using my computer it just went blank showing this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/photo%281%29.JPG waited for 15mins nothing happened and i hard to power it off and on and it show this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/photo.JPG and when it boots up, doesn't show where to enter password rather desktop boots up directly to show this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/photo%282%29.JPG. I will appreciated any help pls
[02:31] <escott> tking, pause break... i cant think
[02:31] <ethical> hylian: very informative article .. but sir.. as i said . cam is already working with gtalk
[02:32] <tking> hylian, when using my computer it just went blank showing this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/photo%281%29.JPG waited for 15mins nothing happened and i hard to power it off and on and it show this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/photo.JPG and when it boots up, doesn't show where to enter password rather desktop boots up directly to show this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/photo%282%29.JPG. I will appreciated any help pls
[02:32] <haz3lnut> john84848: good luck
[02:32] <john84848> haz3lnut: thanks for the help
[02:32] <hylian> ethical: sorry, I was grapsing for straws there
[02:32] <haz3lnut> john84848: welcome
[02:33] <martian> escott: this is my mount | grep martian: http://pastebin.com/5BtMpQVr
[02:33] <ethical> hylian :)
[02:33] <initerdedotiemge> welcome
[02:33] <hylian> tking: if you uninstall the dropbox deb package, does anything change? could this somehow be a dropbox related software situation?
[02:33] <escott> martian, what about mount | grep ecrypt
[02:34] <nisdec> ethical try to trick teamviewer by using a virtual webcam: http://ustream-helpers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=21
[02:34] <tking> hylian, not sure, using linux first time for almost a week now
[02:34] <nisdec> and u can loop the real picture of ur real webcam to that virtual webcam
[02:34] <tking> should i try it?
[02:34] <hylian> ethical: this is totally a strange workarond, but someone said something about running the webcam through a virtual connection, like tty to your own machine. I have never done such a thing, so I am afraid this is way over my head, but I thought I would mention it.
[02:35] <nisdec> and maybe teamviewer will detect the virtual webcam
[02:35] <hylian> tking: it can't hurt.
[02:35] <ethical> nisdec:  thanks mate ..lemme try this too
[02:35] <ethical> hylian : virtual connection ?  using virtual cam?
[02:36] <martian> escott: just that one entry. Furthermore, it seems that all of my personal settings are gone. Like even thought I see two .gnome2 directories in the directory listings of my home, if I cd to it I see only one folder 'keyring' (most likely from this current session)
[02:36] <nisdec> yes I think that was what hylian tried to say
[02:36] <escott> martian, thats really strange. file a bug report
[02:37] <hylian> tking: wait, I misunderstood. I thought for some reason your desktop was loading filed from dropbox, I didn't get that you where using dropbox to share screenshots, my bad..
[02:38] <tking> hylian, ooh i c
[02:38] <martian> escott: yeah, I'll have to do a bit more research to find if someone has already reported or resolved this. Thanks for your help. Silly me thinking I should even bother with encrypted home :)
[02:38] <escott> martian, im curious what stat says for the two files with the same name
[02:38] <ethical> and one more headache ..
[02:38] <hylian> tking: hmmm. This is Ubuntu doing this?
[02:39] <tking> hylian, yes
[02:39] <ColdFire> i have posted a thread in the forum about a problem i am having, it is too long to list here, so if anyone could read here and give any help it is appreciated http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12049426#post12049426
[02:39] <escott> martian, its really cool technology when it works
[02:39] <ethical> is there any way to install all the backtrack's tool ..in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:39] <reisio> ethical: yup
[02:39] <reisio> ethical: by installing them
[02:39] <ethical> reisio : how my friend?
[02:40] <ethical> reisio : not one by one ..
[02:40] <fuzzynurfhurter> how do u get xubuntu desktop sessions on ubuntu??
[02:40] <ethical> i wnt to know quickest way .. to do that ..
[02:40] <martian> escott: here's some stuff to confuse ya! notice if I specify .gnome2 it sees only the one folder, but when I do it again with .gnome* it sees both: http://pastebin.com/u5M7VvPE
[02:40] <init[dot]d> fuzzynurfhurter, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <ColdFire> ethical, first off wireshark i know is one of them, which is in the software center, and yes you would need to do them 1 by 1.
[02:41] <fuzzynurfhurter> ok thx init
[02:41] <reisio> ethical: you'd need a list of packages, which you can get from... a backtrack image :p
[02:41] <ColdFire> ethical i also recommend checking out peerblock, since you are asking about backtrack programs
[02:41] <tking> hylian, i charge my iphone with my laptop, one thing i notice is that when i connect iphone to usb to charge some stuffs are mounted like iphone drives and when i eject or use savely remove from dock/daskboard, it makes the dock disappear and reappear like it crashed
[02:41] <hylian_> tking: you gave me 2 pic url's. the one shows you logged in, and the gui is asking for your password... can you get access to the desktop at all?
[02:41] <fuzzynurfhurter> hey init do u know anything about initfram something something??
[02:41] <ethical> reisio : i've installed backtrack on my virtualbox ..but i just want to remove it
[02:41] <tking> escott, i charge my iphone with my laptop, one thing i notice is that when i connect iphone to usb to charge some stuffs are mounted like iphone drives and when i eject or use savely remove from dock/daskboard, it makes the dock disappear and reappear like it crashed
[02:42] <reisio> ethical: dpkg -l will tell you what's installed
[02:42] <reisio> alternatively...
[02:42] <ethical> coldfire ; i've installed wireshark  , but .. there are hundreds more . i can't even remember their names
[02:42] <reisio> !clone
[02:42] <tking> hylian, am on desktop doing everything normal don't know the next time it will happen, cos it might suddenly do same again
[02:42] <fuzzynurfhurter> i still have to figure out wireshark
[02:42] <hylian_> tking: what desktop environment do you use... unity?
[02:43] <ethical> i tried   on bactrack terminal  ... ( locate sources.list) then i added that sources.list in ubuntu's sources.list)
[02:44] <ethical> but  nothing seems to be working
[02:44] <nisdec> someone knows a working remote app on the iPhone for the xbmc nightly builds?
[02:44] <martian> escott: for what it matters, I'm on xubuntu... this is obviously lower level stuff so I figured the main channel would be a reasonable place to query
[02:44] <Lounge> anyone else with 64 bit getting hang on shutdown?
[02:44] <hylian_> tking: is this a powerpc?
[02:45] <fuzzynurfhurter> init thx man that workd like a charm
[02:45] <tking> hylian_,  whats power pc?
[02:45] <hylian_> tking: who made the machine you are having this problem with?
[02:45] <ColdFire> lounge that happens on one of my other pcs...i just hold down the power btn...yea it aint the best thing but i have yet to find an answer for that one, either way it wont hurt you
[02:45] <genii-around> tking: A processor kind
[02:46] <escott> martian, same inode same file
[02:46] <tking> hylian_, HP 1.5tb hDD. 8gb ram
[02:46] <patwotrik> hi
[02:46] <patwotrik> im having a minor problem
[02:46] <Lounge> ColdFire: yeah true that but holding the power button is a forced shutdown which means the drives/partitions are not clean
[02:46] <usr13> Oh, I like minor problems.
[02:46] <patwotrik> im using my 42" tv on my laptop
[02:47] <fuzzynurfhurter> yep yep
[02:47] <ColdFire> does anyone know how to still keep some effects like grid windows, when you are in gnome classic (no effects) (12.04)
[02:47] <martian> escott: would you know of a log to peer into aside from my dmesg?
[02:47] <patwotrik> and i lying in my bed on a distance of about 4m
[02:47] <usr13> Oh, that sounds like a major problem.
[02:47] <patwotrik> (or 12')
[02:47] <patwotrik> and everything is so small
[02:47] <hylian_> tking: the line "bad area no semaphore" suggests possibly bad hardware or bad ram. Since you have 8gb of ram, I am assuming you are using the 64 bit version of Ubuntu, right?
[02:47] <Lounge> i've been looking around on google about it, some people say doing "sudo shutdown -h now" helps instead of gui
[02:47] <escott> martian, not really
[02:47] <patwotrik> fonts, buttons, you name it
[02:47] <Lounge> others say that doesn't help
[02:47] <patwotrik> in a web browser its easy to zoom
[02:47] <ColdFire> lounge, have u tried that yet?
[02:48] <ColdFire> if ti works let me know i will also give it a try then write a script
[02:48] <patwotrik> but is there an easy complete solution?
[02:48] <patwotrik> not: i dont wanna change resolution
[02:48] <Mandalord> patwotrik: dont use Enter as punctuation, its harder to read your problem
[02:48] <escott> hylian_, 32bit PAE inside vbox on 64bit win 7
[02:49] <patwotrik> Mandalord, sorry about that. not used to chats with so much activity :)
[02:49] <hylian_> escott: i am assuming you have talked to tking before ;)
[02:49] <Lounge> ColdFire: not quite, i've been trying to determine if mine was due to truecrypt drives not auto unmounting or if network manager needs to be shutdown first
[02:49] <nisdec> patwotrik: just increase ur system font size?
[02:49] <martian> escott: and one last question for you as you seem to know a bit about this: is the ~/.Private file mounted on login or on boot?
[02:49] <wolfgang> What is the ufw command in terminal to allow opening a port?
[02:49] <escott> hylian_, yes, but i couldn't figure anything out
[02:50] <tking> hylian_, am using the 32bit
[02:50] <Lounge> but last shutdown i used the gnome shutdown option which then my box hung with a fglrx dump
[02:50] <escott> martian, login. it uses your login password to unwrap the keychain
[02:50] <wolfgang> what is it?
[02:51] <patwotrik> My problem is when i use my tv as a monitor on 4m distance. Everything is so small. It's often hard to read the text etc. Is there a good simple solution? I do not wanna move closer or change resolution.
[02:51] <wolfgang> What is it?
[02:51] <martian> escott: Thanks for the handholding :)
[02:51] <wolfgang> !ufw
[02:51] <wolfgang> What is it?
[02:51] <hylian_> tking, escott could this be a hiccup with the "pae" extension? because one of the lines from the kernel dump suggests there is some kind of hardware problem. and more often than not, no semaphore has more to do with bad memory addresses than anything else...
[02:51] <bazhang> wolfgang, stop repeating
[02:52] <usr13> wolfgang: ports are open by default.
[02:52] <escott> hylian_, its also an hp envy which is HP's premier consumer hardware. so predictably is complete ****
[02:52] <ColdFire> lounge have you tried having it not check the drives on start? just an idea
[02:52] <ColdFire> or even if there is a bad sector, just giving ideas
[02:52] <hylian_> escott: ahh, yes. you sound like a fellow computer tech. :)
[02:52] <msdaisy> how do you restart nfs-kernel-server in command line?
[02:52] <Mandalord> patwotrik: I think you should change the resolution, some smaller resolution seem good for you
[02:52] <sacarlson> wolfgang: sudo ufw <port number> ; as seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823741
[02:52] <Lounge> ColdFire:  that would mean going into the undev scripts?
[02:52] <usr13> wolfgang: Maybe you should tell what it is you are wanting to accomplish.
[02:52] <Miguelito> Ok - this system should be performing way better than it is - is there a tool for tuning? Im running 12.04
[02:52] <gr33n7007h> ufw allow 25/tcp or whatever port
[02:53] <patwotrik> mandalord: no, its just looks like crap then
[02:53] <ColdFire> lounge: 1 sec let me find the command, its been awhile
[02:53] <madsailor> Lounge, I was having a similar problem and had narrowed it down to nfs shares that I had sudo mounted and failed to unmount before shutting down with gnome.  I just became careful about unmounting, and since the last nfs update the problem has resolved itself.
[02:53] <nisdec> patwotrik : just increase the text scaling factor
[02:53] <patwotrik> nisdec: how?
[02:53] <madsailor> don't know if this is helpful at all.
[02:53] <hylian_> Miguelito: do you have video drivers installed?
[02:53] <escott> hylian_, sadly i'm one of the dupes who bought one for his gf
[02:53] <fuzzynurfhurter> patwotrik enlarge the font size and stuff
[02:54] <escott> hylian_, she liked the shiny metal, i liked that it wasnt apple
[02:54] <Lounge> madsailor: yeah but i don't think i'm using nfs
[02:54] <nisdec> I just know how to do that over the "Advanced Settings" gui
[02:54] <Miguelito> Yea i have the recommended nVidia
[02:54] <wolfgang> I am trying to port forward and i need to know the ufw command to make my firewall let me
[02:54] <Lounge> just xtf4
[02:54] <patwotrik> is there a good way to just install a "big theme" or something?
[02:54] <hylian_> escott: i have a feeling that, if he went with straight out 32 bit, vm'ed, that his problems would be solved. he ust wouldn't have all of his memory available.
[02:54] <usr13> wolfgang: Not specific enough.
[02:55] <fuzzynurfhurter> i have an ati 5670 ddr3 1gb graphics card yall know how to get the drivers or something for it??
[02:55] <nisdec> patwotrik : install "advanced settings" over the software center
[02:55] <Miguelito> hylian_, Im getting a lot of fade in and outs like the system is being bogged down
[02:55] <ColdFire> lounge try this
[02:55] <ColdFire> Open a terminal and type
[02:55] <ColdFire> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:55] <ColdFire> enter root password, and then open the documentt
[02:55] <ColdFire> look for the line that says this
[02:55] <ColdFire> UUID=2a782d1e-fc91-4bbb-b86d-c139bb2d3f46 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:55] <FloodBot1> ColdFire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:55] <usr13> wolfgang: Do you already have a firewall script that has been run?
[02:55] <madsailor> Lounge, do you mount any drives that aren't in your fstab?
[02:55] <patwotrik> nisdec, i just saw that. installing :)
[02:55] <Lounge> at first i thought it was because i'm using the old grub but others are having hangup even with grub2
[02:55] <patwotrik> nisdec, thanks
[02:55] <wolfgang> I don't know...
[02:55] <escott> hylian_, im not sure they even offer a non PAE kernel these days
[02:55] <madsailor> Through another protocol, perhaps
[02:55] <bazhang> ColdFire, gksudo gedit
[02:55] <wolfgang> just need an answer
[02:55] <usr13> wolfgang: I don't either
[02:55] <tking> hylian_, do u thnk i shud do a re-install?
[02:55] <usr13> wolfgang: What are you trying to do?
[02:56] <nisdec> patwotrik : then go to "fonts" and there u'll find the "text scaling factor" which will increase or decrease the font size just EVERYWHERE
[02:56] <wolfgang> i am port forwarding
[02:56] <hylian_> Miguelito: sounds like you are using unity with either a weak video card, no drivers, or unity is just a buggy desktop. I personally chose gnome or xfce for the same reason. Just a guess though.
[02:56] <Lounge> madsailor: yes, trucrypts, but even when i manually dismounted them all, still got hung with that fglrx dump
[02:56] <escott> tking, give hylian's suggestion a try and restrict the ram given to the system to something <4gb
[02:56] <ColdFire> lounge : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1056887/
[02:56] <Lounge> but i'm not so sure if its even fglrx
[02:56] <usr13> wolfgang: That's pretty vague. You are wanting to forward what to where?
[02:57] <wolfgang> Minecraft server
[02:57] <sacarlson> wolfgang: might need to enable ipv4 forwarding sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[02:57] <matti_> Hi i hav an really slow ubuntu laptop with 2d Enabled byt still unity-2d takes 50-60% of CPU power ...
[02:57] <hylian_> tking: I leave that up to you and escott. I can't guarantee that is the problem. It's my gut feeling it is, But I simply don't have enough information to be as certain as I would like. My inner person says yes, if that helps.
[02:57] <wolfgang> im banned from #minecraft for asking about cracked minecraft
[02:57] <matti_> i have an Dual core 2.o GHz running ubuntu 12.04
[02:58] <Lounge> ColdFire:  yeah i only partition thats showing 0  1 in fstab is the /
[02:58] <wolfgang> i did another port i just can't remember ufw command
[02:58] <Lounge> but that was generated by default from installation
[02:58] <Miguelito> hylian_, I have a nVidia GTS450 with 1 gig ram
[02:58] <matti_> suspect the GPU but not sure since i have issue with my sound card as well since the volume control control 1 of my speake volunes and the other is at full volumen and does not really care what volume i set unless ichoose mute ...
[02:59] <Lounge> while the rest of them no including swap is 0  2
[02:59] <hylian_> Miguelito: if you have the internet speed, i would install gnome, log out, choose gnome on the login screen, and see if the problem persists. if it does, you've atleast ruled something out.
[02:59] <hylian_> Miguelito: did you install the newest available drivers for that?
[03:00] <nisdec> going to bed.. nn @all
[03:00] <matti_> have ati mobility x1400 video card
[03:00] <Miguelito> hylian_, on device drivers it shows 2 - i have activated the recommended ones - it acts like winblows does when an app isnt responding
[03:01] <fuzzynurfhurter> why wont it show my graphics card
[03:01] <Miguelito> hylian_, it only does that when Im trying to do a lot
[03:01] <hylian_> Miguelito: How new is that card? I remember someone on the message boards talking about how the new Nvidia drivers take up a lot of system resources, a bug in the driver...
[03:02] <Miguelito> hyLian_, about a year I guess
[03:02] <matti_> is there an way to install windows driver for x1400 in linux some how, playing aroubnd with xorg but no luck ...
[03:03] <fuzzynurfhurter> can i install ati catlyst through wine and make it work right with my card??
[03:03] <matti_> fuzzy i guess not but i am guessing
[03:04] <fuzzynurfhurter> lol i feel ya i have the cd but its for windows
[03:04] <hylian_> Miguelito: hmm. it's too hard to pin point. it could be unity, it could be your driver, it could be problem x. I still suggest trying another desktop environment to see if this is related to unity. It's atleast something that can be done with some ease, and would help diagnose. It's up to you.
[03:04] <fuzzynurfhurter> where do u find more desktop sessions??
[03:06] <ethical> back again   :)
[03:06] <escott> !alis | tking
[03:06] <hylian> fuzzynurfhurter: desktop environment? or desktop sessions?
[03:06] <fuzzynurfhurter> either or i just want a good looking 1
[03:06] <hylian> ethical: come back with a good word, i hope. :)
[03:07] <fuzzynurfhurter> i have ldxe and lubuntu desktop sessions
[03:07] <ethical>  hylian :  :)  ..  nothing  special ..
[03:07] <wolfgang> I need the command
[03:07] <martian> escott: So it seems that on initial reboot the ecryptfs mount must have failed or timed out (I've noticed that on this laptop sometimes it will stall on mount) and so in my home directory a fresh copy of skel was placed. So, on reboot I had the mounted ecryptfs copies and the dumb copies.
[03:08] <hylian> fuzzynurfhurter: going into the software center and typing the word desktop should give you choices like kde, gnome, xfce. you probably don't want xfce, althogh it is my fave. XFCE makes your machine run faster because it isn't pretty, just very functional.
[03:08] <ethical> but .. apart from techie stuffs . can i get  help on  a personal topic?
[03:08] <escott> martian, ok that would make sense. boot to single. clean up $HOME removing the plaintext versions of the files
[03:08] <hylian> ethical: um.. ok.
[03:08] <bazhang> ethical, not here
[03:08] <ethical> bazhang :( sorry
[03:08] <fuzzynurfhurter> cool thx i like the lxde it looks awsome
[03:08] <wolfgang> I am trying to run a minecraft server the port is forwarded but i need to use a ufw command in terminal i was wondering what it was?
[03:09] <mrdeb> hello, can someone help to change fixed width font across whole system
[03:09] <hylian> ethical: a good chat room for that is ##club-ubuntu
[03:09] <mrdeb> the club ubuntu is mean
[03:10] <tbrown2012fb> I hate Operating systems Gerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[03:10] <sacarlson> wolfgang: did you not try already sudo ufw portnumber ?
[03:10] <ethical> hylian : ##club-ubuntu .. noted down. but i'm not feeling to leave such a good place like this
[03:10] <Jagst3r15> where do i check what i have installed hardware wise in 10.04?
[03:10] <fuzzynurfhurter> hulk smash
 yes
[03:10] <Miguelito> hyLian,
[03:10] <Jagst3r15> like where do i see the intel chip info etc?
[03:10] <ethical> sorry guys i won't start any personal topic
[03:10] <sacarlson> wolfgang: results?
 didn't work
[03:10] <tbrown2012fb> fuzzynurfhunter: LOL
[03:10] <hylian> ethical: i personally have no problem engageing in conversation, but the rules might mean you will get kicked/banned.. not by me, but i am not a moderator.
 wait let me try one more time
[03:11] <fuzzynurfhurter> lshw jagst3r15
[03:11] <Miguelito> hyLian, sorry - yea no option to change to different desktop
[03:11] <sacarlson> wolfgang: ISP problem?
[03:11] <mi3> !windows
[03:11] <Jagst3r15> ?
[03:11] <tbrown2012fb> Has anyone tryed windows 8 release preview
[03:11] <bazhang> !ot | tbrown2012fb
[03:11] <hylian> Miguelito: once it is installed, you can change by logging out, and clicking on the circular button by password field.
[03:11] <mi3> tbrown2012fb: It sucks, thats all I know.
[03:11] <fuzzynurfhurter> jag in terminal type lshw and it will give u the specs of ur system
[03:11] <ethical> hylian :  it seems .. moderator didn't ever fall in love :P
[03:11] <mrdeb> hello, can someone help to change fixed width font across whole system
[03:11] <sacarlson> wolfgang: did you turn on forwarding
[03:11] <bazhang> ethical, stop it.
[03:12] <Miguelito> hyLian, it only showed ubuntu and unbuntu 2d
[03:12] <ethical> bazhang :  hehe ..  jk :P
[03:12] <mi3> !ot | ethical
[03:12] <ethical> ubottu : got it boss  b-)
[03:13] <hylian> Miguelito: in software center, you typed gnome, and then installed it, and it still isn't an option?
[03:13] <martian> escott: yep, that's what I did. Now to see if it's been reported!
[03:13] <hylian> bazhang: sorry man, I tried to stop it...
[03:13] <wolfgang> sacarlson> what do you mean? i did the thing in my browser with the default gateway and i have done this before just forgot command
[03:13] <tbrown2012fb> mi3: It does not suck. It a new experence of windows and people need to get used to it. I just waiting when the real deal come out:) I cant wait
[03:13] <bazhang> tbrown2012fb, thats offtopic here
[03:14] <Miguelito> hyLIan, no I didnt - thought you said it was installed - doing now
[03:14] <tbrown2012fb> bazhang: Your offtopic
[03:14] <hylian> Miguelito: ok cool.
[03:14] <mi3> tbrown2012fb: you can make ubuntu just like windows 8 ! FUCK WINDOWS !! AND YOU TOO!
[03:14] <Sox> I'm going to install U12 to dual-boot on my laptop along side Windows 7. What type of file system should I choose for the partition that I'll be installing it on?
[03:14] <mi3> I hate windows lovers !
[03:14] <fuzzynurfhurter> hell with that tbrown xp pro and vista bout the best u gonna get outa windows at the moment lol
[03:14] <matti_> anyone that have installed ati windows driver in version 12.04 ?
[03:14] <sacarlson> wolfgang: in the browser?  I guess I don't have a good picture of your goal
[03:14] <genii-around> mi3: No need for hate!
[03:14] <hylian> mi3: come on man. i don't want to read that... ok? thanks. :)
[03:15] <ethical> :|
[03:15] <mi3> Hyle: :P
[03:15] <sacarlson> wolfgang: do you mean in your router?
[03:15] <bazhang> tbrown2012fb, take it elsewhere
[03:15] <tbrown2012fb> mi3: Wow some one got up on the wrong side to day
[03:15] <bazhang> mi3, thats not acceptable here
[03:15] <mi3> genii-around: you suck only bcos of windows ,dick, now take it!
[03:15] <tking> I have 2 750gb hdd (i.e 1.5tb on my computer) i used HD1 for windows and ubuntu (dualboot) and Use HD2 as back up, i have moved files from HD1 to HD2 simultaneously while using Ubuntu. My problem now is that when i rebooted to windows, i tried coping files from backup drive (HD2 ) to my MS windows desktop and my "external HDD" some files wouldn't copy at all because when i go to windows desktop CTRL + V or right click paste shows PASTE to be disabled an
[03:15] <tking> y solution to that please?
[03:15] <ethical> it was vry rude :|
[03:15] <mi3> bazhang: ok, I will stop, sir.
[03:15] <wolfgang> sacarlson> Port forward you type in your default gateway and it takes you to your router then you portforward then next in terminal you do a ufw command and thats it
[03:16] <fuzzynurfhurter> it wont let me search in software finder
[03:16] <wolfgang> sacarlson>i dont know the command
[03:16] <Sox> I guess I picked the wrong time and place to ask my question. :/
[03:16] <Jagst3r15> do i need an antivirus for ubuntu guys?
[03:16] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: short answer: no
[03:16] <bazhang> Jagst3r15, not really, no
 you don't need any realy
[03:16] <Jagst3r15> and i am using 10.4
[03:16] <matti_> set un an firewall jag ...
[03:16] <mrdeb> does anyone know about fonts
[03:17] <Jagst3r15> is 11.4 stable enuf to use?
[03:17] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: but don't go around the web downloading and running random programs (especially closed sourced ones)
[03:17] <matti_> sorry set up an firewall and sleep safer ...
[03:17] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: they're all stable enough to use in my opinion
[03:17] <escott> tking, are you saying you cannot move files onto an NTFS (windows) partition?
[03:17] <deadmund> I don't think a firewall is necessary either
[03:17] <hylian> tking: there are usually to reasons for this. One is the file, or files in question are inproperly named for Windows. Anything with , for instance, won't work. so jamie's first dance recital.wmv won't play or copy over.
[03:17] <zallx> iptables
[03:17] <sacarlson> wolfgang: well if you did all the other steps correctly then sudo ufw 22; would open port 22 for ssh  not sure what port you want to forward and to what application
[03:17] <Jagst3r15> and how do i check what drivers were/are compatible? I just wiped my windows 7 install for ubuntu
 25564 for minecraft bukkit server
[03:18] <wolfgang> sorry
sorry wrong person
[03:18] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: you already have linux installed?  Is there any hardware not working? (e.g. wifi)
 25564 bukkit server
[03:18] <Sox> What filesystem should I use for the partition that I'm going to install Ubuntu on? I'm going to dual-boot it along side of Windows 7
[03:18] <matti_> i do since firewall will keep you stealth and harder to find at least, well sooner or later linux will be virus prone to , it is just an mater of time and at my company  it is mandatory ...
[03:18] <Jagst3r15> i think it all works but i see my touchpad is not fully functional
[03:18] <genii-around> Sox: ext4, usually
[03:18] <bazhang> Sox, ext4
[03:19] <jrdnn> deadmund If SSH is enabled a firewall is good to prevent brute force password guessing
[03:19] <Sox> genii and bazhang: That's what I thought. ty
[03:19] <hylian> Jagst3r15: if your gonna play minecraft, you also need to make sure that the version of java installed is not open jdk or icedtea6-plugin. you need the actual Oracle Java.
[03:19] <Jagst3r15> i dont play minecraft..
[03:19] <matti_> just an opinion ... coming from windows world and yes linux is safer ...
[03:19] <tking> hylian, so should i rename all files and folders? but before installing ubuntu, i hv used most of the files on windows b4 some are school works
[03:20] <sacarlson> wolfgang: so you already setup on your adsl router to forward 25564 to the ip of your server?   maybe take a look at sudo iptables -L ; to see what other firewall stuf you might have mest with
[03:20] <deadmund> jrdnn: Are assuming the user is not already behind a router? (either home or personal)
[03:20] <deadmund> jrdnn: But I agree that firewall's are useful in that case.
[03:20] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: what about your touchpad specifically is not working?
[03:20] <hylian> tking: I was just mentioning one possibility... hmmm. well if you are selecting a mass of files, one wrongly named file will stop windows in it's tracks. i would try to copy over like 10 files ata  time, and see if the error still persists.
[03:20] <Jagst3r15> like on my touchpad i cant go up and down (by making a "swiping" gesture on the right side of the pad)
[03:20] <tking> escott, yes cant move some folders which has files when i am on windows (b4 ubuntu no probs with these files when i installed ubuntu - i think i hv cut from backup drive to ubuntu and return back)
[03:21] <Jagst3r15> and i cant zoom in and out by like dragging fingers in opposite directions or in the same direction/inwards
[03:21] <deadmund> matti_: Linux is more immune to viruses due to design and obscurity.  No matter how popular it becomes it will always have a better design.
[03:21] <hylian> tking: the backup drive, is it ntfs?
[03:21] <wolfgang> i have done it before just one easy command i just forgot it.
[03:21] <escott> tking, im not sure why only some would work
[03:21] <tking> Hyle, yes
[03:21] <matti_> ok
[03:21] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: I think there is special settings for multi-touch features if you look at the mouse / trackpad settings.  Have you done that yet?
[03:22] <tking> hylian, yes ntfs
[03:22] <Jagst3r15> no not yet. where would i find that? sorry im so new to ubuntu ;)
[03:22] <matti_> deadmund:  do you know how to troubleshoot if GPU is an issue or something else anoying my laptop ...
[03:22] <hylian> tking: have you added any new files since using ubuntu that could be strangely named? if there is even one file in a folder that is named in a way that is unfriendly to windows, you will not be able to copy the folder... and are there any error messages?
[03:22] <fuzzynurfhurter> there wasnt that many desktop session there
[03:22] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: I'm not an ubuntu machine right now.  Open the dash and search for mouse, or search for trackpad.
[03:23] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: it should be straightforward
[03:23] <tking> no error msgs
 is there a way to look at previous ufw commands i have used?
[03:23] <Jagst3r15> k thanks
[03:23] <deadmund> matti_: what GPU do you have?
i did it before
[03:23] <matti_> ati x1400
[03:23] <tking> the are just all my softwares etc
[03:23] <deadmund> matti_: Is that a radeon card?
[03:24] <sacarlson> wolfgang: sudo ufw converts settings to iptables  so to see results of all your ufw see sudo iptables -L;
[03:24] <matti_> my computer lags heavily even in 2d, and yes it is ati mobility radeon x1400 on an Dell Inspiron laptop
[03:24] <tking> hylian, escott  well i just thought of copying the files from ubuntu to the windows desktop since i can access windows directory from here :) what do u think?
[03:25] <deadmund> matti_: what driver are you using right now?  You can check using sudo lspci -k   and looking for the 'module' or the 'driver' under the graphics card.  The output is big fyi
[03:25] <escott> tking, permissions will be all wrong but thats fine for data files
[03:25] <Jagst3r15> i think maybe its just an issue with the driver deadmund
[03:25] <matti_> ok, hold on ...
[03:25] <Jagst3r15> like the synaptics touchpad drvier or somewthing
[03:25] <sacarlson> wolfgang: I"m not sure your problem is in firewall best read http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/remotebukkit/
[03:25] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: did you find the gui setting?  What is making you say that?
[03:25] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: likely there is only one driver in the linux world fyi
[03:25] <Jagst3r15> all settings are enable for touchpad
[03:25] <Miguelito> hyLian, which display manager you recommend with gnome - gdm or lightdm
[03:25] <tking> escott, i think its permition problems bcos i right clickd the folder i was trying to copy on windows and i saw it is a read only folder
 i found it but it doesn't say command
[03:26] <fuzzynurfhurter> how can i find a different kind of session i want to dl some more
[03:26] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: such as?  Do you have a setting that is enabled but isn't working?
[03:26] <tking> escott, i think its permission problems bcos i right clickd the folder i was trying to copy on windows and i saw it is a read only folder
[03:26] <escott> tking, i meant don't copy thinks like ~/.ssh to windows for backup
[03:26] <Jagst3r15> well on windows7 it just has it dont have to do anything
[03:26] <Lounge> matti_: you might be using the open generic driver
[03:26] <tking> ok
[03:26] <LuckyStar> I've a problem , looking for  help
[03:26] <Jagst3r15> like u know how when u drag ur fingers on the pad and the page scrolls
[03:26] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: yes, of course.  But that doesn't answer my question.
[03:26] <Jagst3r15> that is not wroking on ubuntu
[03:26] <matti_> lounge i think so lagsa lot ...
[03:26] <hylian> Miguelito: lightdm is a little faster, but it really is whatever is to your liking. ubuntu currently uses libghtdm
[03:26] <john38> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS doesnt support 23" monitor for splash screen login
[03:26] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: but the setting for that feature is enabled in the settings gui?
[03:27] <ColdFire> anyone know how to get camtasia studio 8 working with wine? it installed 100% fine, but when it load it spins then after a bit it just stops n never comes up
[03:27] <tking> escott, ok fine thanks, they are all windows pdf, c++ project and word
[03:27] <Jagst3r15> yes under mouse > touchpad right?
[03:27] <wolfgang> gtg
[03:27] <matti_> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Radeon Mobility X1400
[03:27] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: yes... mmm
[03:27] <tking> anyone from UK here?
[03:27] <LuckyStar> from glasgow
[03:27] <deadmund> matti_: that's the name of the card, what's the name of the driver?
[03:27] <Lounge> matti if you have the "systems settings" in your side launcher, go into the additional drivers and select the fglrx
[03:28] <deadmund> matti_: yeah, try fglrx
[03:28] <deadmund> matti_: make sure you reboot
[03:28] <matti_> yes but when i was looking for VESA sometging with another command i got nothing back then befire i reinstalled fglrx
[03:28] <Lounge> tyhat would be ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX, not the post-release updates
[03:29] <Jagst3r15> deadmund this maybe? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[03:29] <matti_> let me reinstall again and see what happens ...
[03:29] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: this article is extremely related. Follow it closely
[03:29] <john38> anybody know how to enable full screen for splash screen on 23" monitors???
[03:30] <hylian> tking: if you have ubuntu and windows running at the same time, ubuntu is going to control it's hard drive partition. You would either need to shutdown ubuntu, or have ubuntu do it. and you may or may not need super user priveleges in Ubuntu.. although I would think not if your files are going from ntfs to ntfs...
[03:30] <markamber> john38: do you mean that your boot screen and grub is not fullscreen on your hdmi/dvi monitor?
[03:30] <Jagst3r15> deadmund yes i see it says for 10.4 and earlier there are issues
[03:30] <Lounge> matti_:  yeah because the mobile radeon x1400 serious should be a smooth ride
[03:30] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: yep.
[03:30] <john38> markamber, yes grub screen as well..there is purple screen with black border around it??
[03:31] <matti_> thank you deadmund for the help, let me see what happens ...   i have troubles with sound cards as well since my 2.1 system is working to 30%, thanks for the help lounge, we ll be back in 10 ...
[03:31] <Jagst3r15> deadmund thanks for the help :)
[03:31] <Lounge> should be able to run compiz and second life
[03:31] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: for 10.04 there is a different guide
[03:31] <deadmund> sure
[03:31] <Jagst3r15> oh
[03:31] <Jagst3r15> where?
[03:32] <hylian> tking Miguelito escott i have to go, time for me to crash. I hope I was a little helpful. :)
[03:32] <majuscule> How can I use apt-cache to search only from a given source repository?
[03:32] <hylian> bazhang: thanks for the help earlier, goodnight. :)
[03:32] <markamber> john38: I have learned to live with it. But I know what you are talking about. I think it did work when I was not using the nvidia card in my computer. I really can't help you fix it, but I can sort of help you by saying it's not a big deal and I doubt you would be willing to spend the time it would likely take to fix that
[03:32] <Miguelito> hyLian, yes and thanks
[03:32] <tking> hylian, thanks for ur help good night
[03:33] <john38> markamber, your right i can! live with it..its just curious
[03:33] <fuzzynurfhurter> later hylian
[03:34] <markamber> john38: it happens before x is even started so all that stuff would be so hopelessly low level, maybe go find a plymouth developer, they will know the reason but the fix as I said would take a while for your exact setup
[03:34] <john38> markamber, i use AMD pc btw...
[03:35] <markamber> john38: the only video card I ever saw that displayed everything perfectly was embedded intel, on any resolution. Other than that I would rather look at the text when my computer is booting up. Makes bystanders jealous of my hacker awsomeness
[03:36] <john38> markamber, cool i appreciate your help anyway
[03:36] <markamber> john38: yea, sorry I don't have an answer, best of luck
[03:37] <deadmund> markamber: we are legion
[03:37] <init[dot]d> omg
[03:37] <markamber> deadmund: pardon?
[03:37] <deadmund> markamber: it's a reference to anonymous and hacking :P
[03:37] <init[dot]d> Legion are DDoS tards not hackers
[03:37] <deadmund> haha
[03:37] <deadmund> It's flamebate
[03:37] <deadmund> as is my spelling of flamebate
[03:37] <markamber> deadmund: oh haha whatever
[03:40] <fourfourthree> Is there a limit to the number of cores that Ubuntu 10.04 can have?
[03:41] <init[dot]d> fourfourthree only twoHardcore | Softcore
[03:42] <escott> fourfourthree, more than you have
[03:42] <fourfourthree> My screen is blacking out when I have 80
[03:42] <init[dot]d> dayum
[03:42] <init[dot]d> blacking out?
[03:42] <init[dot]d> have you checked the xlogs?
[03:43] <escott> fourfourthree, you running on virtualized hardware or something?
[03:43] <fourfourthree> yeah, its in a vm
[03:44] <matti_> hi deadmund no change but gtk-gnash consumes all cpu
[03:44] <deadmund> matti_: I'm not sure then :(
[03:44] <deadmund> but CPU != GPU
[03:45] <Jagst3r15> are any laptops sold with ubuntu out of the box?
[03:45] <fourfourthree> Jagst3r15: https://www.system76.com/laptops/
[03:45] <escott> Jagst3r15, yes. dell had some (don't know if they still do), zareason is another ventor.
[03:46] <matti_> okey but something bothers the CPU and if movie is stopping and going meaning something eats CPU ... what does gtk-gnash do  ???
[03:46] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15 what happened
[03:46] <JohnTeddy> Can someone with the latest Ubuntu do this command: 'ls /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libXss.so.1;' and tell me if both of those files exist by default?
[03:46] <Jagst3r15> ninit[dot]d i installed fine
[03:46] <init[dot]d> fourfourthree The Linux kernel recently had an update to run on something like 4096 processor threads (so 2048 dual core CPU's, or 1024 dual core, HT CPU's).
[03:47] <matti_> reinstall the whole thing ? an better choice !?
[03:48] <daniel110> So i am trying to install ubuntu for the first time (dual booting with windows) but my hp laptop has already 4 partitions, did anyone have this problem?
[03:48] <matti_> ahhh gtk-gnash plays swf files that is youtube like right or something else ?
[03:48] <matti_> deadmubd what player do you use if not swf or ?
[03:49] <deadmund> matti_: I use adobe flash plugin and i hate every second of it
[03:49] <Jagst3r15> init[dot]d everything is fine but just havving issue with touchpad
[03:49] <deadmund> matti_: sometimes I play flash videos using vlc if it's really bad and I really wanna see the video
[03:49] <harpoonguy> hi, is anybody here really knowledgable in computer hardware/webservers in general?
[03:50] <deadmund> harpoonguy: just ask your question :)
[03:50] <init[dot]d> harpoonguy whats the issue?
[03:50] <harpoonguy> ok haha
[03:50] <harpoonguy> its no issue, and its actually unrelated to ubuntu at all but i figured since people who deal a lot with unix are here there would prolly be somebody who could answer my ques
[03:50] <harpoonguy> and
[03:50] <mahir256> okay #ubuntu so i have a lubuntu 12.04 desktop and a windows 7 laptop. only the laptop is connected to the internet.
[03:50] <harpoonguy> is 1gb/sec upload realistic for a nice dedi webserver
[03:50] <harpoonguy> ?
[03:51] <mahir256> how would i go about 'tethering' the desktop to the laptop using an ethernet cable for the internet?
[03:51] <escott> !ics | mahir256
[03:51] <matti_> deadmund, i belive you no one likes adobe ...
[03:51] <bazhang> harpoonguy, try ##hardware . this is not the place
[03:52] <Lounge> mahir256: you'd need a "crossover" cable for a direct computer 2 computer connect
[03:52] <newbeggar> hello?
[03:52] <init[dot]d> harpoonguy #lopsa
[03:52] <newbeggar> hi, i could use some help...
[03:52] <harpoonguy> thanku
[03:52] <init[dot]d> Professional Sysytem Administrators channel
[03:52] <escott> Lounge, these days you don't need a crossover cable. most nic's can detect
[03:52] <madsailor> JohnTeddy,  I have  libX11.so.6 but not libXss.so.1
[03:53] <newbeggar> i've installed ubuntu to an external HDD, but it only gets as far as a purplish screen with a keyboard then black screen with blinking cursor. what should i try next?
[03:53] <Lounge> escott: aren't i ole'school
[03:53] <escott> Lounge, yeah i've never meet a computer that couldn't detect
[03:54] <newbeggar> is there some other channel i should be on for assistance with this type of thing?
[03:54] <init[dot]d> newbeggar when it gets to the purple screen immediately press spacebar
[03:54] <newbeggar> okay, that should resolve?
[03:54] <Lounge> well my old dell box has the old nic intergraded into its awesome pentium 4 cpu mobo :-)
[03:55] <init[dot]d> newbeggar should get you to the install screen at least
[03:55] <newbeggar> i'll try it, if i'm lucky i won't be back. if not, i'll return with more info. thanks Init!
[03:55] <init[dot]d> np
[03:57] <intrapata> hi guys i forgot what i idid ,,, but everytime i boot with my lubuntu  disk,, heres what i got   ERROR: OUT OF DISK / GRUB RESCUE>   ,,,,but when i used linux rescue disk and boot to 32bit linux opt. it boots my o.s. what problem did i made? thanks guys
[03:57] <init[dot]d> whats the offtopic room again?
[03:57] <escott> intrapata, thats a fun error. it means your bios is broken
[03:58] <escott> intrapata, you need to create a boot partition and put it at the very front of the disk
[03:58] <intrapata> escott kinda new here in linux sir,, can you pls elaborate pls :c
[03:59] <Lounge> escott: thats interesting, i've always put the boot part in the back
  sir can u pls elaborate pls :c
[03:59] <init[dot]d> Lounge thats what she said
[03:59] <escott> intrapata, grub needs to read the kernel and initrd, but it has to do so through the bios. the bios on your machine is broken and cannot read beyond a few hundred megs into the disk. so it fails and grub says "i asked you to read this, you couldn't must be out of disk"
[04:00] <Lounge> init[dot]d: nailed it
[04:00]  * init[dot]d bows
[04:00] <Pinkamena_D> hey again
[04:00] <Pinkamena_D> i need moar halp
[04:00] <Lounge> escott: would it work if the boot partition was on a thumbdrive with only 256 mb?
[04:01] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D wazzup?
[04:01] <Lounge> i was thinking that without the thumbdrive the system would just not boot
[04:01] <escott> Lounge, it should
[04:01] <Lounge> bit of extra security on a laptop?
[04:01] <Pinkamena_D> well, i am looking to run a transmission daemon on one connection and everything else on the other
[04:01] <Pinkamena_D> (server)
[04:01] <escott> Lounge, as long as the bios supports usb boots, but i wouldn't trust a bios that can't read the full disk to do a usb boot properly :)
  sir so you mean my bios is faulty so,,hmm so you mean i need to make a boot partition? on this?  :c
[04:02] <escott> intrapata, yes and yes
[04:02] <Pinkamena_D> the reason so that the remote interface can be connected to be the main connection, but the large uploads go on the other
[04:02] <intrapata> thanks sir escott
[04:03] <Pinkamena_D> i have tried setting the bind-ip in transmissions settings to the correct interface ip that i want, but it just goes on the main connection no matter.
[04:03] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D use port forwarding
[04:03] <init[dot]d> iptables
[04:03] <escott> intrapata, there is a magic limit of 137Gb that if you are smaller than that most bioses should work
[04:03] <init[dot]d> man the room bot should have some function like .command or .package here
[04:04] <Lounge> !ubottu
[04:04] <Pinkamena_D> i have messed with that in the past and it only made nothing work, but i will give it another go. do you have any tips for this situation?
[04:04] <Pinkamena_D> (does transmission even use a fixed port?)
[04:05] <Lounge> Pinkamena_D:  you mean a default port before setting it?
[04:05] <Pinkamena_D> well.. a specific port that all traffic will go over
[04:06] <Lounge> Pinkamena_D:  its in prefference --> network if i remember right
[04:06] <Jagst3r15> if someday i go to 12.04 will that auto update?
[04:06] <Jagst3r15> like if 12.xxxx is released can i install thru the update manager?
[04:07] <genii-around> Jagst3r15: 12.04 will by default won't want to upgrade itself automatically until 14.04
[04:07] <Lounge> Jagst3r15: The closest that I can think if is the installation of new kernel-images
[04:07] <genii-around> ( LTS -> LTS )
[04:07] <Pinkamena_D> lounge, though you may know the program better then me, that says "incoming tcp port"
[04:07] <newbeggar> derp
[04:07] <Pinkamena_D> i am looking for all the traffic here
[04:07] <Jagst3r15> why is thtat?
[04:08] <Jagst3r15> seems counter productive
[04:08] <init[dot]d> wassa matta derp?
[04:08] <Pinkamena_D> derp?
[04:08] <newbeggar> so, i got to the install screen, then the blinky white line on black screen. tried both "try before you install" and "install"
[04:09] <Pinkamena_D> press alt f5
[04:09] <Pinkamena_D> or alt f6 or one of those
[04:09] <Lounge> Pinkamena_D: I'm not of now but I think transmission doesn't support udp porting
[04:09] <Lounge> I'm not sure*
[04:10] <Lounge> google transmittion+udp port
[04:10] <newbeggar> maybs i should mention im doing all this on a macbook pro, soz my keyboard commands might not mesh with whatever they normally are? or is that wrong completely...
[04:10] <xxiao> firefox under 12.04, how can I configure that firefox, e.g. rename my download directory
[04:10] <Lounge> transmission*
[04:10] <Pinkamena_D> i am not interested in udp, but i want outgoing traffic, not just inboind. I may be reading it wrong or just stupid, but in the program it says incoming
[04:10] <xxiao> i click everywhere on firefox, could not bring up that damn interface
[04:10] <gulzar> How to have only icons in KDE-taskbar? Similar to pclos-kde.
[04:10] <xxiao> trying to like unity, but firefox is really pissing me off...
[04:11] <xxiao> firefox worked fine under 10.04
[04:11] <Pinkamena_D> newbegger did you try what i said?
[04:11] <ndxtg> Hi. Please recommend me the correct version. I need to run a home server for file sharing/HTTP, but also need X to run Virtual Box for a specific WIn32 system. What should I download?
[04:11] <Pinkamena_D> if now here is another thing i did to fix it
[04:11] <gulzar> xxiao: I like Unity but KDE is best .Give it a try
[04:11] <Pinkamena_D> go into the boot commands
[04:12] <escott> xxiao, you can change it either through .config/user-dirs.dirs or through the firefox preferences
[04:12] <Pinkamena_D> and change where it says "splash quiet" delete that and put "nomodeset"
[04:12] <xxiao> escott: how can I get to the preferences
[04:12] <xxiao> normally i click on the top somewhere i can make it visible
[04:12] <init[dot]d> KDE is bloated as fawkes
[04:12] <xxiao> not the case with unity on 12.04
[04:12] <escott> xxiao, Edit->Preferences
[04:12] <Pinkamena_D> init.d did you have any tips for me with the iptables thing
[04:13] <Pinkamena_D> ?
[04:13] <xxiao> escott: i could not see the Edit menu
[04:13] <xxiao> escott: my problem is that i could not enable the menu tabs
[04:13] <xxiao> darn it
[04:13] <escott> xxiao, should be at the top. in unity it should get pulled into the menu at the top
[04:13] <gulzar> init[dot]d: On my 6yr old PC without graphics KDE boots in 35s and takes only aboyt 250MB RAM... and while working RAM goes only about 600MB and CPU about 3-5%
[04:14] <xxiao> escott: got it now, geez, why is it that far from the real thing that i'm running
[04:14] <xxiao> escott: thanks. i was pulling my hairs to get the menu thing shown up
[04:14] <newbeggar> i'll use google-fu to figure out whats what. g2g folks.
[04:14] <newbeggar> deuces
[04:14] <Pinkamena_D> what
[04:14] <Pinkamena_D> about
[04:14] <Pinkamena_D> what i said
[04:14] <Pinkamena_D> gah
[04:15] <xxiao> gulzar: no offense, was a kde lover, until got bite by kde4.0(?), then never looked back
[04:15] <FloodBot1> Pinkamena_D: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:15] <glitsj16> xxiao: if you don't like the global menu you can 'sudo apt-get purge firefox-globalmenu'
[04:15] <xxiao> gulzar: plus Qt does not look good, which impacts kde
[04:15] <xxiao> glitsj16: is this globalmenu common for other apps?
[04:15] <xxiao> glitsj16: or just firefox
[04:16] <glitsj16> xxiao: just firefox
[04:16] <xxiao> hmm...maybe Mark likes it that way, i don't get that
[04:17] <glitsj16> at least it's (still) up to you to change it
[04:17] <IdleOne> xxiao: Please keep your comments support related in here, if you feel like chit chatting join us in #ubuntu-offtopic we have a stimulating conversation about ancient OS'es going on right now
[04:17] <glitsj16> yank it out
[04:17] <harpoonguy> gah nobody on freenode answers any of my questions
[04:17] <harpoonguy> wtf is everybody lurking here for?
[04:17] <harpoonguy> lol
[04:17] <xxiao> anyone heard Finland was once proud of Nokia as national image and now Finland becomes Angry Bird due to Nokia's failure?
[04:18] <xxiao> the theory is that it's all because Angry Bird
[04:18] <gulzar> xxiao: with me its reverse. I was gnome fan. But KDE4.8 is much better and stable. I like Qt -looks. I tried KDe beacuse gnome-shell is of not much use and Unity is really really really slow while working. It has a lag of about 2-3s for every command .. (may be because of my pC config). But as now KDE is my main DE. Enjoy Unity. Hope someday I will make it default
[04:18] <IdleOne> xxiao: I'm asking you nicely to please stay on topic.
[04:18] <gulzar> IdleOne: acepted
[04:19] <IdleOne> gulzar: thank you.
[04:19] <xxiao> IdleOne: fine
[04:19] <xcervo> hello can som1 help me with my wireless usb to work on ubuntu
[04:19] <xxiao> so kde is offtopic here, and I can only talk about unity then
[04:19] <xxiao> who designed this irc robot
[04:20] <xxiao> by the way I like unity so far, except for this firefox surprise
[04:20] <IdleOne> xxiao: You can ask support questions regarding Ubuntu. You can not chat about your likes or dislikes of DE's
[04:21] <gulzar> Please help. How to have only icons in KDE-taskbar (without text)? Similar to pclos-kde or much better.
[04:21] <harpoonguy> can seriously nobody answer my questions?
[04:21] <xxiao> what is DE
[04:21] <harpoonguy> like
[04:21] <harpoonguy> [11:50pm] <harpoonguy> is 1gb/sec upload realistic for a nice dedi webserver
[04:21] <harpoonguy> [11:51pm] <bazhang> harpoonguy, try ##hardware . this is not the place
[04:21] <harpoonguy> [11:52pm] <init[dot]d> harpoonguy #lopsa
[04:21] <FloodBot1> harpoonguy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <gulzar> xxiao: Destop environment
[04:21] <NDS|Dog> xxiao: Desktop Environment
[04:22] <harpoonguy> thats a bit ridiculous dont u think?
[04:22] <gulzar> harpoonguy: have patience
[04:22] <mi3> harpoonguy: THAT FLOOD is ridiculous, dont you think ?
[04:22] <IdleOne> no it isn't, this is ubuntu support not hardware support
[04:22] <harpoonguy> lol no
[04:22] <harpoonguy> doesnt matter. ive been redirected like 6 times
[04:22] <gulzar> harpoonguy: I am not able to see your quesiton. Please post again
[04:22] <IdleOne> ok, well this is NOT the right channel.
[04:23] <harpoonguy> lol. id assume somebody who is knowledgable in *unix would have a general knowledge of webservers and computers
[04:23] <harpoonguy> but apparently not
[04:23] <harpoonguy> ?
[04:23] <harpoonguy> lol
[04:24] <gulzar> harpoonguy: try on someother channel. Not everyone is expert. And most experts don't join irc so often
[04:24] <IdleOne> harpoonguy: Do you need help with Ubuntu?
[04:24] <gulzar> harpoonguy: and one more thing. #ubuntu is strictly and only for Ubuntu. I was banned several times by asking other questions
[04:25] <xxiao> gulzar: how does ubuntu unban you then
[04:25] <gulzar> xxiao: :D
[04:26] <gulzar> xxiao: beacuse the BAN system has a flaw.
[04:26] <IdleOne> gulzar: what flaw would that be?
[04:27] <gulzar> IdleOne: First answer my question. :) [[ How to have only icons in KDE-taskbar (without text)? Similar to pclos-kde or much better.
[04:27] <xxiao> gulzar: please elaborate as i'm a little scared by id*leon_e now
[04:27] <IdleOne> gulzar: I don't know. Now you answer my question please
[04:27] <xxiao> IdleOne: are you a robot or human being?
[04:28] <gulzar> xxiao: If you fear then ask only support related questions PLEASE. wanna chat come to  #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:28] <xcervo> hello can som1 help me with my wireless usb to work on ubuntu
[04:28] <gulzar> xcervo: post question
[04:29] <xorrbit> I removed network-manager-gnome, but when I set a static ip (via ifconfig eth0 10.255.255.30 netmask 255.255.255.0) it disappears after some time (a few minutes). Any insights as to why this happens?
[04:29] <xcervo> i hve netgear n300 wireless usb and my os is ubuntu 12.4
[04:30] <Lounge> xorrbit:  need to set it in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:30] <xorrbit> hmm
[04:30] <xorrbit> any way to avoid that?
[04:31] <calligar> Anyone know a program I can use to copy my cd on xubuntu 12.07?
[04:32] <Lounge> xorrbit: and because you're not using nm anymore, you need to use ifupdown.. so after you set your ips for your eth(s) sudo ifdown eth* && sudo ifup eth*
[04:32] <xcervo> thanks i'll try that
[04:32] <calligar> *12.04, not 12.07, my fault
[04:32] <xorrbit> Lounge: is there any way to disable /etc/network/interfaces or somehow make it so I can just configure these ips with ifconfig and they'll stick?
[04:33] <Lounge> xorrbit: are you using sudo with your ifconfig settings?
[04:35] <xorrbit> yuppers
[04:35]  * xxiao finally got openstack running on 12.04
[04:35] <xorrbit> it works for a few minutes, but then it goes away
[04:36] <xorrbit> quite annoying
[04:37] <Lounge> xorrbit: take a look at this
[04:37] <Miguelito> Hello - does someone know the repository or what I need to do to download the latest KDE 4.8 Desktop Environment
[04:37] <Lounge> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/save-ifconfig-settings-88785/
[04:38] <xorrbit> persistence on reboot isn't the problem
[04:38] <xorrbit> I suppose I can toss the settings in /etc/network/interfaces tho
[04:38] <xorrbit> but I shouldn't have to
[04:38]  * xorrbit shakes his fist at ubuntu
[04:38] <xorrbit> anways thanks
[04:38] <xxiao> xorrbit: first thing i do is to remove network-manager then edit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:39] <xxiao> second is to change dash to bash
[04:39] <xxiao> why is ubuntu 12.04 no longer using aptitude as the default?
[04:40] <smw> xxiao, default in what way?
[04:40] <Daekdroom> xxiao, I don't think ubuntu ever used aptitude as default.
[04:40] <linux_inferno> Is anyone familiar with using Xen XCP with open vswitch? I need some help understaning how to configure it.
[04:40] <glitsj16> xorrbit: sounds like network-manager is still trying to manage that interface, can you pastebin your /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf? Double-check if that has an [ifupdown] section mentioning 'managed=false' ..
[04:40] <Daekdroom> However, it is true that at some point aptitude stopped being shipped in the LiveCD
[04:41] <Daekdroom> Last but not least, aptitude doesn't work correctly with multiarch, which might be headache-y for those that use 64-bit 11.10 or 12.04
[04:43] <xxiao> Daekdroom: thanks
[04:52] <Lounge> xorr you can always do: echo -e "auto eth0\niface eth0 inet static\nadress 192.168.0.1\nnetmask 255.255.255.0" >> /etc/network/interfaces
[05:02] <HF_acid> hey all, hopefully quick question: I've got an old IDE drive with ubuntu installed on it that I'd like to boot from in my new pc but I'm unable to do so via the uefi (because it's connected to a IDE PCI card). I don't want to install the boot loader onto the main drive of this pc and I was thinking/hoping there was a way to trigger the booting from the live cd? I was thinking perhaps by altering the boot options to point to the drive but I'
[05:08] <xorrbit> so I solved my thing
[05:08] <xorrbit> had to apt-get remove network-manager
[05:08] <xorrbit> now my ips stick
[05:09] <xorrbit> so, yeah
[05:09] <xorrbit> fuck network-manager
[05:09] <|cfh|> or fuck ubuntu
[05:09] <battlehands> How do I create a text editor file using terminal and open that file?  I am using gedit for the text editor and bash 2.4.10 for the terminal.
[05:09] <|cfh|> slackware/'openbsd win
[05:10] <|cfh|> sorry i apologize
[05:10] <|cfh|> i love them all though
[05:10] <|cfh|> truth be told
[05:10] <zykotick9> battlehands: "gedit foo.txt"
[05:10] <|cfh|> but slack was my first distro
[05:10] <|cfh|> im not trolling i promise
[05:10] <Lounge> battlehands: echo -e "this is a written test\nthis is the next line" >> ~/test.txt
[05:10] <|cfh|> i understand all distros have their place and purpose
[05:11] <zykotick9> battlehands: if you just want to create a blank file, "touch foo.txt" would work.
[05:11] <Lounge> or use nano
[05:11] <Lounge> battlehands: use: nano ~/test.txt
[05:11] <Sox> I just installed 12.04 on my Acer 4830T notebook and I can't get any sound out of the internal speakers or the headphone jack. Any ideas?
[05:12] <Lounge> Sox in terminal type alsamixer and hit f6 to change your sound card
[05:12] <Lounge> also check your levels
[05:12] <Sox> I've tried both of those things, Lounge.
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[05:13] <Lounge> ok then try sudo killall pulseaduio && sudo alsa force-reload
[05:13] <Lounge> see if helps
[05:13] <Sox> Okay, I'll give that a shot. ty
[05:21] <[Trident]SamWich> what to type in passwd column for hacking a admin of webpage using sql injection?
[05:25] <Luceo> How do I switch to root account?
[05:25] <tr0n> sudo su
[05:26] <Luceo> Thanks
[05:26] <tr0n> np
[05:27] <alo21_> where xchat's tray icon is?
[05:27] <tr0n> the left side of your screen?
[05:29] <alo21_> tr0n, It should be write "Connected to 1 network and 2 channels
[05:29] <alo21_> tr0n, I can not see it
[05:29] <tr0n> hmm
[05:30] <alo21_> tr0n, could help me?
[05:30] <tr0n> there should be an icon on the left side
[05:30] <alo21_> yes
[05:31] <tr0n> it says "chat" with an "X" through it
[05:31] <alo21_> yes
[05:31] <alo21_> tr0n, is it on the Launcher, right?
[05:32] <tr0n> yes
[05:32] <alo21_> tr0n, but I can find the the written
[05:33] <tr0n> dash home
[05:33] <alo21_> tr0n, then?
[05:33] <tr0n> it should be in the recent apps or recent files
[05:34] <tr0n> or search for it
[05:34] <alo21_> tr0n, I can see the icon only, but it does not say me how many networks I am in
[05:34] <tr0n> double click on it
[05:35] <alo21_> tr0n, ok, then?
[05:35] <tr0n> what comes up?
[05:36] <alo21_> tr0n, a window where I can chose which server I would to connect
[05:36] <tr0n> then youre not connected
[05:37] <alo21_> tr0n, how can I chat with you?
[05:37] <tr0n> right here
[05:37] <alo21_> tr0n, so it means that I am connected
[05:37] <tr0n> youre on xchat now
[05:38] <alo21_> tes
[05:38] <alo21_> yes*
[05:38] <tr0n> on the left side of the xchat client it'll show which channels/networks youre on
[05:39] <alo21_> tr0n, just the name?
[05:39] <tr0n> yes
[05:40] <alo21_> tr0n, and the number?
[05:40] <tr0n> it should list the network then channels
[05:41] <Nytrix> alo21, what the problem?
[05:41] <tr0n> root: make a user and irc as that
[05:41] <Guest13965> 0_0
[05:42] <tr0n> a user on your box, not change your nick
[05:43] <alo21_> Nytrix, as described here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/691989           I should see a written
[05:43] <alo21_> Nytrix, which says how many channels and networks I am in
[05:43] <ki4ro> .
[05:43] <alo21_> Nytrix, but I can not see it
[05:44] <tr0n> it doesnt give a number, just a list
[05:44] <daniel110> hi i just installed ubuntu 12.04 with wubi, but i am having some problems. First of all my windows don't resize when move them at the edges of the desktop
[05:46] <tr0n> you just put your pointer on the edge of the window, when it shows an arrow click on it and move it
[05:46] <alo21_> Nytrix, Can you help me?
[05:46] <daniel110> tr0n: it doesn't work
[05:47] <tr0n> strange
[05:47] <daniel110> i knwo i used ubuntu in a vm with no problems
[05:47] <alo21_> tr0n, does it work with unity?
[05:47] <tr0n> yea, you using gnome?
[05:48] <daniel110> no unity
[05:48] <alo21_> tr0n, you mean classic?
[05:48] <tr0n> what ver you using?
[05:48] <alo21_> unity
[05:48] <tr0n> of ubuntu
[05:48] <alo21_> tr0n, 12.04
[05:48] <daniel110> tr0n: 12.04
[05:49] <daniel110> but with wubi
[05:49] <tr0n> not famuliar with wubi
[05:49] <crankharder> after apt-get install postgresql, no server is started.  /etc/init.d/postgresql start returns immediately with no message adn postgres doesn't start... ideas?
[05:49] <crankharder> rather: sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.4 start
[05:50] <init[dot]d> does it say its installed?
[05:51] <crankharder> init[dot]d: http://pastie.org/4141302
[05:53] <init[dot]d> sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.4 stop
[05:53] <init[dot]d> any message?
[05:53] <crankharder> same immediate return
[05:54] <crankharder> i've tried purging, them rm -rf /var/lib/postgres ; rm -rf /etc/postgres and then reinstalling
[05:54] <init[dot]d> ps aux | postgres
[05:54] <crankharder> not running
[05:54] <init[dot]d> wierd stuff there
[05:57] <roa__> ello , I have a samsung galaxy  7 plus , am I in the right channel ??
[05:57] <tr0n> no, try #android
[05:58] <roa__> ok , thaks
[06:02] <genii-around> Hm. Apparently you can run Ubuntu on that device, not just Android.
[06:02] <tr0n> really?
[06:03] <genii-around> tr0n: http://www.addictivetips.com/hardware/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-samsung-galaxy-tab/
[06:04] <tr0n> only on that phone?
[06:04] <tr0n> or other androids?
[06:04] <genii-around> Looks like some early version maybe of "Ubuntu for Android"
[06:04] <Arash> Hello :-)
[06:05] <tr0n> hi
[06:05] <genii-around> tr0n: Probably others too.
[06:05] <Arash> !msgme
[06:06] <tr0n> talk in the channel arash
[06:06] <Magpie> hi can anyone help i just updated to 11.10 and i'm having a problem with synaptics not opening
[06:07] <tr0n> try uninstalling and reinstalling, or upgrade to 12.04
[06:07] <Arash> ok tr0n :)
[06:08] <Magpie> how to uninstall? I would like to because it's given me the bloated version and it's only a netbook. Can you do it from the terminal?
[06:08] <Arash> Magpie try sudo apt-get purge
[06:09] <Arash> or remove
[06:09] <Magpie> is 12.04 any good then? I'm on lubuntu I thought it might be too bloated
[06:09] <tr0n> its not bloated, works fine for me
[06:09] <Magpie> what are you running it on?
[06:10] <Magpie> i'm trying purge arash thanks, what is it doing?
[06:10] <djiefo> Hi there :)      here's any addons I can insta;; to make dynamic boards with openoffice calc? thx
[06:10] <Magpie> it keeps trying to download dropbox for some reason
[06:10] <Arash>  Remove packages and config files
[06:10] <djiefo> damn,, too much typing errors lol
[06:10] <Arash> try apt-get in a new terminal
[06:10] <Arash> It'll give you all the args
[06:10] <Arash> and syntaxes with details ;)
[06:11] <Arash> !apt-get
[06:12] <Sox> How do I install an earlier kernel into my 12.04 install?
[06:12] <Magpie> it tells me some error with dpkg
[06:12] <Arash> have you run apt-get with sudo ?
[06:12] <Arash> It should be like sudo apt-get purge package
[06:13] <Magpie> yeah i did and i tried in a new terminal n it still saying it's locked
[06:13] <Arash> for example sudo apt-get purge pidgin
[06:13] <genii-around> Hm. That should be Muon now, not Adept
[06:13] <Arash> try remove
[06:13] <Arash> sudo apt-get remove packagename
[06:13] <Magpie> pidgin?
[06:13] <Arash> what are you trying to remove ?
[06:13] <Magpie> i'm not sure lol
[06:14] <Magpie> i want to remove the drop box
[06:14] <Magpie> and fix this dpkg error
[06:14] <Arash> try sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:14] <Arash> then when finished sudo apt-get remove dropbox
[06:14] <Magpie> then i want to remove all the nonsense i was given with the update thati's too bloated for a netbook
[06:15] <Arash> pm me
[06:15] <Magpie> ok thanks
[06:16] <Arash> check PM Magpie ;)
[06:16] <Magpie> oh it still says the administration directory is blocked
[06:16] <ruhil> hey everyone, i was installing some packages and ran into dependency problems
[06:16] <djiefo> Hi there :)     there's any addons I can install to make dynamic boards (like crosoft excel) with openoffice calc? thx
[06:17] <tr0n> if you pm noone will learn how to fix it
[06:17] <Arash> Hi ;)
[06:17] <Arash> tr0n Its easy to fix , I already told here
[06:17] <Arash> sudo apt-get remove packagename
[06:17] <Arash> removes the package
[06:17] <Arash> for example in his case sudo apt-get remove nautilus-dropbox
[06:17] <tr0n> its better to talk in the channel, that way everyone learns
[06:18] <cerebrix> hey everyone
[06:18] <djiefo> Hi there :)     there's any addons I can install to make dynamic boards (like crosoft excel) with openoffice calc? thx
[06:18] <tr0n> djiefo: we heard you the first two times
[06:18] <cerebrix> havent installed ubuntu in a couple of years.  thinking about it again.  curious to know if i have anything i should be aware of before installing on my specific hardware configuration.  specs to follow.
[06:19] <djiefo> False, YOU heard me the 1st 2 times
[06:19] <Guest67132> hi
[06:19] <Arash> !sysrequirements
[06:19] <tr0n> repeating wont get your question answered any faster
[06:19] <cerebrix> i5 3570k on a z77 motherboard.  amd 7870 graphics.  integrated everything else.
[06:19] <Arash> !requirements
[06:20] <Arash> thats just about perfect bro ;) (cerebrix)
[06:20] <djiefo> 4 joins...maybe
[06:20] <djiefo> common, useless comment tr0n ;)
[06:20] <cerebrix> cool, just run wubi then?
[06:20] <Arash> use 32 bit cerebrix
[06:20] <ruhil> tr0n: what about my problem? do i have to repeat as well :P
[06:21] <Arash> no
[06:21] <djiefo> lol
[06:21] <Arash> download
[06:21] <Arash> and install via boot
[06:21] <Mandalord> !wubi | cerebrix
[06:21] <tr0n> no, if you dont get an answer then we dont know
[06:21] <Arash> u better not use wubi
[06:21] <Arash> I once used wubi and It installed 64bit ubuntu on my pc
[06:21] <Arash> which worked improperly
[06:23] <genii-around> To put it briefly... Wubi sucks.
[06:23] <Arash> agreed ;)
[06:23] <tr0n> no, you just have to be sure it installs the right version
[06:23] <Black-ops> 64bit is any way good for +2gb ram,unless you have that for intensive work,use 32bit
[06:23] <ruhil> tr0n: thanx for scrolling up and reading my problem(i doubt you even did that :D)
[06:23] <Arash> one problem I had
[06:24] <tr0n> i tried but putty only scrolls so far and i didnt see it
[06:24] <Arash> was after installing ubuntu via wubi
[06:24] <Arash> It couldn't find my hard drives
[06:24] <djiefo> tr0n,  i'm agree with you, but if there's over 5 or 6 joins after our last message, let us post it back again, maybe the new joiners knoes
[06:24] <tr0n> i run 32 bit and have 4 gigs ram
[06:24] <djiefo> no?
[06:24] <cerebrix> oh well, guess i wont really need more than 4 gig of ram.  but the other 4 in my system will be a sad panda =p.  it'll get over it i guess though lol
[06:24] <Arash> and It listed the C: on /host
[06:24] <cerebrix> i have 8 in my system
[06:24] <Arash> second one was It couldn't detect my ipodtouch
[06:24] <tr0n> thats too soon, try waiting a minute or two at least
[06:24] <cerebrix> amd drivers dont work in 64 bit then or something?
[06:24] <cerebrix> just curious
[06:25] <Arash> cerebrix
[06:25] <Arash> It depends on your system
[06:25] <Arash> some systems are made 64bit
[06:25] <ruhil> tr0n: i have 3gigs, btw why are you using putty? it sucks
[06:25] <Arash> while others (most of them) are 32bit
[06:25] <tr0n> i like putty, but i use terminal too
[06:25] <djiefo> I bet on amount of joins...
[06:26] <Mandalord> cerebrix: i dont think ram has anything to do with 32bit or 64bit, mostly depend on your chip
[06:26] <tr0n> most of the joiners are here to ask questions, not answer them
[06:26] <djiefo> so?
[06:26] <tr0n> so the ops might ban you for repeating
[06:27] <ruhil> 32 bit OS cannot utilise more than 4GB ram, so all the architectures with more than 4gb ram are x64
[06:27] <cerebrix> ahh i forgot.  pae kernel.  i can run 32 bit and just run pae to see more ram.  been a little bit since i ran a nix* distro
[06:27] <cerebrix> its all slowly coming back to me now =p
[06:28] <Arash> cerebrix how much ram do you got ?
[06:28] <cerebrix> guess ill give it a go and if i run into issues, ill come back and pester everyone.  thanks for the help and advice =)
[06:28] <cerebrix> 8gb
[06:28] <Arash> then use Wubi ;)
[06:28] <tr0n> haha
[06:28] <djiefo> I understand that u feel bad to don't be able to anwsering ,  my question but dude, you don't really care about someone repeating without flooding...  I hate flooders, common, who cares about soft repeating :)
[06:28] <djiefo> Hi there :)     there's any addons I can install to make dynamic boards (like crosoft excel) with openoffice calc? thx
[06:28] <cerebrix> ok, ttys everyone.  thanks again.
[06:28] <tr0n> better yet rm windowz and just install linux
[06:29] <Mandalord> why wubi? when we have 64bit iso
[06:29]  * cerebrix waves
[06:29] <Arash> :)
[06:29] <Arash> easier to install
[06:29] <Arash> and doesn't want a plain CD
[06:31] <Arash> !xchat
[06:31] <djiefo> tr0n,  and, notice the happyface and the thx i'm sayin' in my question, i'm not a stupid man, i know what harassing ;)
[06:31] <tr0n> heh
[06:32] <Arash> I'm kinda starting to like It here ;)
[06:32] <tr0n> me too
[06:32] <Arash> very nice community ;)
[06:33] <djiefo> Arash,  we are :)
[06:34] <ruhil> i have 12.04 installed and see a lot of crash reports, is precise still buggy or i have some problem in my installation?
[06:35] <Arash> Ubuntu is not buggy
[06:35] <rhizmoe> i get one or two compiz crashes a day
[06:35] <Arash> Its the programs installed on ubuntu which are buggy
[06:35] <Arash> for example gwibber is one of those
[06:35] <Arash> what crashes a lot
[06:35] <djiefo> ruhil,  u thrust your machine enough to run a last release operating system without any bugs?
[06:36] <ruhil> gwibber was the software that i purged in the first minute after installing ..
[06:37] <djiefo> Hi there :)     there's any addons I can install to make dynamic boards (like crosoft excel) with openoffice calc? thx
[06:37] <namoamitabuddha> By the way, is it polite to say sir in English-speaking country?
[06:37] <tr0n> sure
[06:37] <djiefo> why not? :)
[06:38] <ruhil> djiefo: you should write a script to post this question :D
[06:38] <Loshki> namoamitabuddha: it is polite, unless addressing a woman, which is why it isn't used much online...
[06:38] <djiefo> lol
[06:39] <namoamitabuddha> Loshki: What about conversations in the real world not online?
[06:39] <Loshki> namoamitabuddha: it's off-topic for this channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:40] <namoamitabuddha> Loshki: thanks
[06:41] <Loshki> ruhil: the LTS releases are generally the most stable, but I don't consider them good enough for production until at least the 4th point release...
[06:41] <djiefo> ruhil,  i mean... if your machine runs with 3 beefs pulling a chain to turn a gear with  a vapor boost using wood.... u can try to install arlier version :P  just kidding, each bug has its question, and each questions has its solution
[06:42] <ruhil> Loshki: what's a 4th point release? i have been using ubuntu for 3 years and haven't heard this term...
[06:42] <namoamitabuddha> ruhil: For example, Ubuntu 12.04.4
[06:42] <huhmaster> ubuntu sucks
[06:42] <huhmaster> big time
[06:43] <huhmaster> mint \m/
[06:43] <ruhil> huhmaster: is a fool
[06:43] <tr0n> then leave huhmaster
[06:43] <huhmaster> guys,
[06:43] <huhmaster> try using linux mint
[06:43] <huhmaster> it is built on ubuntu itself
[06:43] <huhmaster> but success has got to mark shuttleworth's head
[06:43] <ruhil> huhmaster: mint is just a visual them over ubuntu
[06:43] <ruhil> it is the same thing inside
[06:44] <huhmaster> yes, exactly.
[06:44] <huhmaster> but it s visual interface is much better
[06:44] <huhmaster> and the new cinnamon is amazing
[06:44] <ruhil> you just have not met any problem there that's why you are saying that
[06:44] <huhmaster> because the unity desktop is messy
[06:44] <Black-ops> Things like aircrack-ng and logkeys dont work in 12.04!
[06:44] <Loshki> ruhil: basically they are bug-fix releases. I expect/hope 12.04.4 will be fairly bulletproof...
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[06:45] <ruhil> 12.04 means the one released in 04-2012, when will 12.04.4 release?
[06:46] <Achab> i will never undrestand theese flames :D
[06:46] <Mandalord1> exit
[06:47] <djiefo> unity is nice... dash home rocks
[06:47] <djiefo> huhmaster, common
[06:47] <ruhil> people are so used to terrminals :D
[06:47] <djiefo> lol
[06:47] <djiefo> black windows addicted
[06:48] <djiefo> (they feels like hackers because blackscreens)
 what are you talking about ?
[06:49] <Black-ops> Windows is hopeless,i wont mind not using NFS for linux
[06:49] <huhmaster> what has blackk screen?
[06:50] <tr0n> putty does, my terminals are purple
[06:50] <huhmaster> who buys windows anyways :D
[06:50] <battlehands_> How do I execute my python code in terminal?
[06:50] <Black-ops> They make evrything other than cash into piracy
[06:50] <djiefo> ./clear stupid questions
[06:51] <ruhil> battlehands_:  python <filename>
[06:51] <djiefo> Hi there :)     there's any addons I can install to make dynamic boards (like crosoft excel) with openoffice calc? thx
[06:52] <[Trident]SamWinc> how to do email injection?
[06:52] <battlehands_> ruhil, what if the file is in a different directory than I am in?  For example, I press 'cd' and I want to execute the command from here.  However, the file that I want to open is in the "code" folder of my home folder.
[06:52] <tr0n> [Trident]SamWinc: u were in here earlier asking questions, this isnt a hacking channel
[06:52] <PorraQuente> Welcome to Chimpout. A black plague is descending upon civilization. That plague is called the nigger. Here at Chimpout we provide up to the minute nigger facts and news stories that are either covered up or buried by the mainstream media. Everything you read here is the truth, gleaned from worldwide sources.
[06:53] <[Trident]SamWinc> i dint asked it earlier?
[06:53] <tr0n> hhahahahaha
[06:53] <tr0n> no, you asked a hacking related question earlier
[06:53] <ruhil> battlehands_:  then cd to code and execute that *or* python code/filename.py
[06:53] <huhmaster> I wish mmorpgs were released for linux distros.
[06:55] <huhmaster> does any company release them for linux?
[06:56] <Black-ops> Huhmaster: you wont have to wory about if you can spare wine or virtual box
[06:56] <tr0n> google linux mmorpg
[06:58] <huhmaster> blackops, yeah that's an option ...
[07:01] <ruhil> i have dependency problems in installing some packages, can someone help me?
[07:01] <battlehands_> My terminal wont get back to its main... id?  It is typing crazy characters ^[[A when I press the up arrow, and I can't cd home.
[07:02] <ruhil> battlehands_:  it appears that you are not using *gnome-terminal*
[07:02] <djiefo> Hi there :)     there's any addons I can install to make dynamic boards (like crosoft excel) with openoffice calc? thx
[07:02] <tr0n> try closing the terminal window and opening a new one
[07:02] <battlehands_> ruhil, what terminal am I using?
[07:02] <reisio> djiefo: #libreoffice
[07:03] <djiefo> reisio,  allready posting it there too
[07:03] <ruhil> battlehands_: try running *gnome-terminal* command from the whatever terminal you are in
[07:03] <reisio> djiefo: that's what we call, discourteous
[07:04] <genii-around> "crossposting"
[07:04] <battlehands_> tr0n, that worked.  Is there no way to get back to this screen if my terminal stops responding properly through typing?
[07:04] <battlehands_> ruhil, it just opened another terminal.  I guess that is what I'm using.
[07:04] <tr0n> no
[07:04] <tr0n> you can reuse commands using the up arrow
[07:05] <ruhil> battlehands_:  you might have been executing some other program(command) inside the terminal
[07:05] <djiefo> reisio,  sorry mister close your eyes because i'm sayin' it back again
[07:05] <djiefo> Hi there :)     there's any addons I can install to make dynamic boards (like crosoft excel) with openoffice calc? thx
[07:06] <ruhil> djiefo: wiat, what is *crosoft excel*?
[07:06] <ruhil> now you have to send that again :P
[07:07] <djiefo> microsoft excel
[07:08] <reisio> djiefo: as previously stated, you're in the wrong channel
[07:08] <battlehands_> tr0n, is there a simple explanation for what that happened to me?
[07:08] <battlehands_> why*
[07:08] <ruhil> how is battlehands_ getting everytime after posting something?
[07:09] <reisio> ruhil: pardon?
[07:09] <ruhil> reisio: he is getting disconnected everytime he posts something... the message is : excess flood
[07:09] <djiefo> reisio,  yeah that for sure helpfull to send me in a channel with 3 persons against  over a thousand lollll
[07:10] <reisio> djiefo: lolololol! now begone
[07:10] <EzimUlILk> hmm
[07:10] <battlehands_> ruhil, likely
[07:10] <battlehands_> Any ideas why I keep disconnecting and connecting from the ubuntu IRC server?
[07:10] <EzimUlILk> Ehh...
[07:10] <EzimUlILk> Comodo AV keeps doing it to me..
[07:10] <EzimUlILk> =(
[07:10] <Arash> @battlehands_ poor quality internet connection
[07:11] <reisio> EzimUlILk: ?
[07:11] <ruhil> battlehands_:  tell me if your terminals are working fine now or not?
[07:11] <EzimUlILk> @battlehands_ or Comodo AV
[07:11] <wishingmastermin> any idea how to fix partion table without deleting the whole disk?
[07:12] <genii-around> wishingmastermin: Depends what you did to it
[07:12] <Black-ops> Wishingmastermin: try test disk
[07:12] <Mandalord> wishingmastermin: use fsck (the same as chkdsk in windows)
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> why does photorec write-protect recup-dir after recovering data?
[07:13] <sprung> Hi. I have a *very annoying* problem. My Unity has a Firefox icon that opens up Firefox Version 8. I don't know how it got set up like this, but I've since upgraded to Firefox version 13 and the button on my unity panel continues to open up Firefox 8. Every time i do it, it messes up my addons and extensions. How can I get rid of the icon or get it pointed to Firefox 13?
[07:14] <Black-ops> Lotuspsychje: may be because its run as sudo,i faced the same
[07:14] <wishingmastermin> guys i installed winxp and now i don't get the option to select OS. i use to get GRUB menu earlier
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> Black-ops: how can i remove a locked dir?
[07:14] <reisio> sprung: dpkg -l | grep -i fire
[07:14] <reisio> wishingmastermin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:15] <sprung> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1057059/
[07:16] <reisio> sprung: did you install Firefox manually from a mozilla.org bin or something?
[07:16] <sprung> reisio, i do believe i did
[07:16] <Arash> hi :)
[07:16] <ruhil> Arash: hi again :)
[07:16] <Arash> can anybody suggest a good download manager ?
[07:16] <Loshki> lotuspsychje: I guess photorec figures you already screwed up once or you wouldn't be there, so it's understandable...
[07:16] <reisio> sprung: find /opt/ -iname '*firefox*'
[07:16] <Arash> something like IDM in Windows
[07:16] <ruhil> Arash: i use the downthemall add on for firefox
[07:17] <royale1223> Arash: fatrat
[07:17] <Black-ops> Arash: not as good but try uget
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> Loshki:lol, how can i remove these locked dirs?
[07:17] <sprung> reisio, it's not in opt, i'm searching the other dirs and will get back to you in a moment
[07:18] <reisio> sprung: maybe /usr/bin/firefox is a shell script pointing to the old one
[07:18] <sprung> reisio, using locate i found there's a dir in /usr/lib/firefox8
[07:18] <Loshki> lotuspsychje: not sure what you mean by 'locked'. Are you saying you can't delete them?
[07:18] <royale1223> Arash: if you are comfortable with cli, axel is great. I use it all the time. Even in my android device. ^^
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> Loshki: the folder as a little lock icon on the recupped folders, and if i try to delete, it cant
[07:19] <sprung> reisio, how do i get the icon pointing to the right version?
[07:19] <reisio> sprung: check if /usr/bin/firefox is doing so first
[07:19] <sprung> reisio, /usr/bin/firefox loads firefox 13.
[07:20] <reisio> sprung: I don't recall how to alter the left-side launchers (right-click?), but presumably you can just change the path, or delete one and add a new one
[07:21] <Loshki> lotuspsychje: sounds like a permissions problem. I'm not qualified to help you with nautilus, sorry
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> Loshki:ok tnx
[07:21] <ruhil> sprung: remove your current icon from launcher, run firefox 13 and then "keep the icon in launcher"
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> anyone other knows howto delete folders with 'lock' icon ?
[07:22] <reisio> lotuspsychje: why do you want to delete it?
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> reisio: i have already backupped its content to other location, so empty locked folder remains
[07:23] <Black-ops> Lotuspsychje: try sudo rm
[07:23] <Mandalord> lotuspsychje: sudo rmdir <dir>  and you may suffer very bad result:D
[07:23] <arash__> can't seem to be able to download the plugin :(
[07:23] <ruhil> lotuspsychje: is it some permission problem? you can always delete a folder including the contents by *sudo rm -r <folerpath>*
[07:23] <sprung> ruhil, if it were that easy I wouldn't be here. I did exactly what you just asked me to do again, removed the icon from the launcher, and recreated it by running firefox version 13. i closed firefox, and it opened firefox 8!?!?
[07:24] <sprung> ruhil, i just removed the icon from the launcher again.
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> rm: says it cant remove bacuse its folder
[07:24] <sprung> it's recreateable
[07:24] <Mandalord> lotuspsychje: sudo rmdir <dir>
[07:24] <ruhil> lotuspsychje: use *rm -r <folder>*
[07:24] <ruhil> lotuspsychje: beware this will delete the contents as well
[07:24] <genii-around> lotuspsychje: you need the -r for recursive and -f for force if it's says not empty
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> ruhil:tnx rm -r worked on me tnx!!
[07:25]  * ruhil got the first point on ubuntu-irc and is really happy :)
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> ruhil: that was the meaning, delete folder and its content, it worked tnx
[07:27] <sprung> ruhil, now here's where it gets really crazy. to test, i renamed /usr/lib/firefox8 to /usr/lib/failfox8, removed the icon from the launcher again, loaded firefox 13, locked it to launcher, closed firefox 13, clicked the icon, now the icon does NOTHING.
[07:27] <Arash> downthem all works great
[07:27] <cody__> Is google broken for anyone else?
[07:27] <sprung> it keeps trying to map to /usr/lib/firefox8 and i have zero clue why
[07:27] <ruhil> sprung: you are using unity, right?
[07:28] <sprung> oh my god. yes i am using unity.
[07:28] <sprung> ruhil, should i just ask somebody else later or something?
[07:28] <sprung> it's okay if you don't know how to help me
[07:28] <ruhil> then tell me what does the firefox icon in dash home does?
[07:28] <Arash> !skype
[07:29] <cody__> In my browsers (chromium/firefox) I can type something into the search menu in the upper left and it will search. If I search on google it just does nothing.
[07:30] <sprung> ruhil, okay, one more time, after /completely removing the icon from the Unity launcher/, i open up Firefox 13. I know it's firefox 13 because i click help-> about to confirm. I then "lock the icon to the launcher" so the firefox icon stays presistent. i close firefox. i open firefox, unity tries to open firefox8 for no logical reason whatsoever
[07:30] <ruhil> not from the launcher, from the dash/lens does it open firefox 13?
[07:31] <cody__> For the most part my connections working fine, google is just not searching when I search directly from google.
[07:31] <sprung> ruhil, apparently the lens/dash is also trying to load firefox8 because (remember, i renamed /usr/lib/firefox8 to /usr/lib/failfox8) now it doesn't load anything
[07:32] <sprung> i can only load firefox 13 from terminal by typing /usr/bin/firefox
[07:32] <Arash> @sprung
[07:32] <Arash> try opnening via terminal
[07:32] <sprung> Arash, yes, that works fine
[07:32] <Arash> then
[07:32] <sprung> Arash, we've already established that works
[07:32] <Arash> remove It from taskbar
[07:32] <Arash> open It via terminal
[07:32] <Arash> pin It to taskbar
[07:32] <Arash> (launcher I mean :D)
[07:33] <sprung> Arash, we just went through that
[07:33] <Arash> does It work ?
[07:33] <sprung> Arash, for no logical reason, even after completely removing the icon and doing exactly what you just asked, it still tries to map to /usr/lib/firefox8
[07:33] <bsdfreak> anyone have experience working on hybrid video setups in ubuntu 12.04/x64?  having some issues with an intel/amd configuration on a lenovo ideapad y470p.
[07:33] <sprung> yes, really.
[07:34] <Arash> dependencies
[07:34] <Arash> know firefox as firefox
[07:34] <Arash> not failfox
[07:34] <Arash> this is the logical reason
[07:34] <cody__> Google is refusing to cooperate. I can search using any of my browsers navigation search toolbars and return google results. When I search directly using google it doesn't even spin.
[07:35] <bsdfreak> also, anyone have any info on why the chromium project's ubuntu package is not being updated?
[07:35] <sprung> Arash, you're also not paying attention. I *intentionally disabled firefox 8 by renaming /usr/lib/firefox8 to /usr/lib/failfox8 because i do not want to run firefox8*
[07:36] <sprung> Arash, i want to run firefox 13 which is at /usr/bin/firefox
[07:36] <ruhil> sprung: try editing the file : /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop   - set the "Exec" there to /usr/bin/firefox
[07:36] <sprung> Arash, now, let's go back to how I remove and recreate the icon by running /usr/bin/firefox. When I do that, Unity is *still* trying to map to /usr/lib/firefox8
[07:36] <cody__> It appears that the google links for things such as next page also break it and cause it to do nothing.
[07:37] <Arash> I don't know then :)
[07:37] <Arash> ask ruhil ;)
[07:37] <fredlb> Trying to work with vim and the c.vim plugin im running into the issue of not having the "\" work in normal mode, so i can't execute any of the shortcuts. I also cant do the ctrl-f9 shortcut (which would be fn-ctrl-f9 on my macbook) to run a compiled program. any ideas?
[07:37] <sprung> ruhil, that file doesn't even exist in the directory
[07:37] <Varikonniemi> ok so what could my problem be, i have no remote desktop viewer, only sharer on my this computer. On my laptot i have both
[07:37] <pengw> i want to use ubuntuone with proxy
[07:38] <pengw> how can i set the proxy to ubuntu one?
[07:38] <namoamitabuddha> proxychains
[07:38] <Arash> Varikonniemi
[07:38] <Arash> Remmina
[07:38] <Varikonniemi> both are running latest ubuntu
[07:38] <pengw> the proxy require auth
[07:38] <Arash> is desktop viewer
[07:38] <Arash> !remmin
[07:38] <FloodBot1> Arash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <Arash> !remmina
[07:38] <sprung> ruhil, no wait i found it, typo.
[07:38] <Varikonniemi> remmina i have on both
[07:38] <Varikonniemi> but the laptiop has "remote desktop viewer"
[07:39] <Arash> I suggest you get TeamViewer
[07:39] <Arash> much better than RDP
[07:40] <sprung> ruhill: i did that, it didn't work
[07:41] <ruhil> sprung: sorry then, that was the best that i can do :(
[07:41] <Varikonniemi> i know about teamviewer, was just wondering where my "remote desktop viewer" has gone
[07:43] <ruhil> sprung: you can try editing /usr/share/applications/bamf.index and see what firefox maps to
[07:43] <ruhil> this will require you logging out then log in - in case you find something fishy there
[07:47] <Dory> Hello, I have an ubuntu iso image on my netbook running Windows XP. How do I install Ubuntu next to windows xp?
[07:47] <Black-ops> Dory: mount it in power iso and then use wubi
[07:47] <Arash> just installed skype 4
[07:47] <Arash> yey :D
[07:47] <wrapids> Dory: They also make software that will allow you to shrink your xp partition
[07:48] <wrapids> Google is refusing to cooperate. I can search using any of my browsers navigation search toolbars and return google results. When I search directly using google it doesn't even spin.
[07:49] <Dory> wrapids: I mounted the iso and started wubi. It wants me to reboot. But this is just a mounted iso so it won't be visible to computer bios
[07:49] <Dory> Black-ops: ^
[07:49] <wrapids> Dory: If it wants you to reboot I imagine it knows what it's doing. I haven't installed using Wubi before.
[07:50] <Dory> wrapids: it must be thinking the cd is in real CD-ROM drive?
[07:50] <ruhil> Dory: did it started installation or just asking for reboot?
[07:50] <wrapids> Dory: That question is best not directed at me, as I said I've never installed with Wubi.
[07:51] <wrapids> Okay, so I can use googles direct search as long as I don't hit return. Return seems to break it. The autosearch thing is working though.
[07:51] <wrapids> It seems to be greying out the content area when I hit return also.
[07:52] <Dory> ruhil: There was a button "Demo and Full installation" I pressed it and saw this " For booting Live-CD leave the CD in CD-ROM and reboot"
[07:52] <wrapids> clicking the search button yields the same effect
[07:53] <Dory> I can't remember the name of a program which made live-usb from live-cd
[07:54] <reisio> Dory: on Windows? http://unetbootin.sf.net/
[07:54] <Dory> yeah
[07:54] <Dory> thank
[07:54] <BlueEagle> Dory: The "Demo and Full installation" button prompts you to reboot from the CD. The effect of booting the CD is to run the LiveCD environment. This is an installation of Ununtu that runs off the CD. Performance is therefore hampered as seek times on a CD is an order of magnitude slower than any HDD.
[07:55] <Dory> BlueEagle: I know :)
[07:55] <reisio> ...that's not exactly true
[07:55] <Dory> BlueEagle: I am trying to install Ubuntu next to windows without using a CD-ROM which is absent on my netbook
[07:55] <reisio> more RAM and using a USB stick instead can certainly help, though
[07:55] <wrapids> Gmail seems to be not working either.
[07:55] <BlueEagle> Dory:
[07:56] <ruhil> Dory: you can use yumi to make a single pen drive (thumb drive) bootable to many operating systems in cluding windows ;)
[07:56] <wrapids> Anychance anyone is having trouble logging into gmail?
[07:56] <reisio> Dory: would stick with unetbootin
[07:56] <BlueEagle> Dory: Bahh... Missed the backspace key. There are links from the Ubuntu home paget to make bootable USB sticks.
[07:56] <bsdfreak> wrapids: gmail works fine for me
[07:56] <wrapids> bsdfreak: :(
[07:56] <battlehands_> In ubuntu, what power saving mode is good for letting my comp rest while I sleep for a few hours, but maintaining everything that I have opened?
[07:57] <BlueEagle> reisio: No, it's not _exactly_ true, but it's true _enough_ isn't it?
[07:57] <reisio> BlueEagle: not really, no
[07:57] <Dory> a bootable usb stick becomes a live-USB read-only. Can I install Ubuntu to USB like to a normal hard-drive?
[07:57] <reisio> Dory: yup
[07:57] <Dory> HOW?
[07:57] <reisio> Dory: there are no special extra steps, just select the disk you want to install to
[07:57] <Dory> that would be awsome
[07:57] <bsdfreak> wrapids: sounds like a browser problem.
[07:58] <Dory> reisio: and it will not modify the boot sector of main disk?
[07:58] <reisio> battlehands_: do you want just your session to be saved, or for things to actually continue running?
[07:58] <reisio> Dory: that is also something you can choose
[07:58] <battlehands_> reisio, stay running
[07:58] <reisio> battlehands_: you wouldn't want to do anything but let the monitor power down, then
[07:58] <Dory> then I will insert two USB flash drives, one with installer and one where I will want to install
[07:58] <BlueEagle> Dory: When you create the LiveUSB (using pendrive as recommended by Canonical) you actually do install the LiveCD environment to the USB-drive.
[07:58] <battlehands_> reisio, is there a hotkey for doing that?
[07:59] <reisio> Dory: righto
[07:59] <battlehands_> reisio,  or a command in terminal?
[07:59] <Dory> BlueEagle: ;)
[07:59] <reisio> battlehands_: I don't know, probably not; there should be a command but I don't recall it
[07:59] <reisio> battlehands_: should be configurable somewhere in prefs
[07:59] <Dory> reisio: is a 4Gb drive enough?
[07:59] <BlueEagle> Dory: I've seen a guy running a web server, file server and router on a pendrive as a "temporary seutp" for more than two years.
[07:59] <reisio> Dory: you might want to choose the second option, 'Something else...', I know that lets you specify where the boot loader is placed
[08:00] <ruhil> battlehands_:  try *xset dpms force off*
[08:00] <wrapids> Hrm, it seems like my connections being a little questionable in general...
[08:00] <xendras> hi... my pc has only ubuntu installed. when i boot my pc, it directly starts ubuntu, without showing grub. i am unable to find /boot/grub/menu.lst. what shall i do to get the grub to be shown while booting ?
[08:00] <reisio> Dory: I forget, the website says 5
[08:00] <reisio> Dory: the installer will have its own figure, though
[08:00] <reisio> I think it _is_ closer to 4, but might be over 4 exactly
[08:01] <Dory> reisio: ok, it is lubuntu here
[08:01] <ikonia> xendras: menu.lst is for grub1, ubuntu now uses grub2
[08:01] <Black-ops> Dory: if its the standard iso then 1gb would be enough
[08:01] <reisio> xendras: which uses grub.cfg, and /etc/default/grub
[08:01] <genii-around> xendras: menu.lst is for the previous grub version. /etc/default/grub  is now used, then to sudo update-grub
[08:01] <reisio> Dory: might be less, dunno
[08:01] <ruhil> hey everyone, i have dependency problems can someone help me?
[08:02] <xendras> ikonia: ok got it thanks :)
[08:02] <ruhil> *in installing some packages
[08:02] <BlueEagle> ruhil: Not unless you specify which package(s) you are installing and which dependency problem(s) that arise.
[08:02] <genii-around> xendras: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Hidden
[08:02] <rnd1> hi! I've spoiled X config on Ubuntu 12.04 (by installing ati wring way) and am removing X now. is there any way I can cleanup the mess without total reinstall?
[08:03] <BlueEagle> ruhil: Why are you removing X?
[08:03] <ruhil> BlueEagle: i am installing likewise-open5, likewise-open5-gui,  and winbind
[08:03] <reisio> Dory: you could always install in a VM if you just want to tour it a bit
[08:03] <rnd1> BlueEagle: r u talking to me?
[08:03] <ruhil> BlueEagle: was that for me?
[08:03] <battlehands_> reisio, thanks
[08:03] <battlehands_> good night, all
[08:03] <battlehands_> okay.  I will check
[08:03] <BlueEagle> ruhil: No, it was for rnd1. :)
[08:04] <reisio> rnd1: as far as configuration alone goes, changes are just moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf elsewhere will suffice
[08:04] <rnd1> I have distupgraded two days ago from 11.04
[08:04] <reisio> you might have to shuffle some modules, though, too
[08:04] <BlueEagle> !pastebin ruhil: place output of apt-get install that shows the dependendy problems here:
[08:04] <rnd1> that is, in two hops
[08:04] <SCOLL> hi
[08:04] <BlueEagle> !pastebin | ruhil: place output of apt-get install that shows the dependendy problems here:
[08:04] <rnd1> and everything worked fine
[08:04] <rnd1> except for growing dislike for Unity
[08:04] <bsdfreak> reisio: hi.
[08:04] <rnd1> then I removed unity and added gnome
[08:04] <bsdfreak> may i help you? :P
[08:04] <BlueEagle> !enter | rnd1
[08:05] <reisio> bsdfreak: I could use some gum
[08:06] <rnd1> ok. After back to Gnome the gnome showed multiples of bars, each login doubled the number of bars and menu items. Only clearing .config helped to free screen space. So I decided to make it clean
[08:06] <Dory> reisio: my netbook is very slow on Atom N270 , so virtual machine no go
[08:06] <reisio> you only have a netbook?
[08:07] <ruhil> BlueEagle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1057105/ i have tried using "apt-get install -f" and "dpkg --configure -a", they cannot solve this problem
[08:07] <Dory> :)
[08:07] <Dory> Well, I have Core-i7 2600K as a desktop, but I rarely am at home :(
[08:07] <rnd1> and then I autoremoved soomething crucial to the old AMD-APP
[08:08] <harovali> hi, what's appmor ?
[08:08] <Dory> that's it, trying...
[08:08] <bsdfreak> oof.  virtual machine on an atom.  good luck.  ;-\
[08:09] <wrapids> any reason speedtest.net wouldn't be able to check upload speeds? It's stuck on connecting
[08:09] <StHa> Hello, I'm about to install a test setup with ubuntu 12.04 LTS and MAAS are there any things I need to check before setting up a test cloud infrastruture?
[08:09] <harovali> I mean, apparmor.
[08:09] <reisio> you can get atoms with vt-x
[08:09] <rnd1> and decided to fix it by installing amd-bla-bla-bla.run thingie. After that and some other moves even failsafe X stopped to work. Hoping you can tell something useful. thanks!
[08:09] <StHa> Or is it really as easy as it seems on the website?
[08:10] <bsdfreak> reisio: indeed, but it's still quite a lackluster cpu.
[08:10] <gabriele93> hi
[08:10] <bsdfreak> and most netbooks have slower hard drives and minimal ram, too.
[08:10] <gabriele93> someone can resolve it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1057104/
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> install an ssd in the netbook
[08:10] <mauritslamers1> question: why doesn't nautilus show the OS type in the network browser?
[08:10] <reisio> bsdfreak: and the official Ubuntu requirements are 700MHz proc with 512MB RAM
[08:11]  * genii-around kicks feebly at his n450 atom
[08:11] <rnd1> To summarize the question: how can I reinstall Ubuntu 12.4 on my desktop system after 'apt-get remove x11-common' without making it from scratch? Thanks
[08:11] <bsdfreak> reisio: be that as it may, i'd imagine it won't be an ideal experience.
[08:12] <reisio> bsdfreak: you imagine using an atom for a VM won't be the same as using a Core i7?
[08:12] <reisio> that's saying a lot...
[08:13] <rnd1> BlueEagle: any ideas?
[08:13] <wrapids> My connections going a bit slow but other than that I'm not noticing any issues. I can click on a link on google to hardforum.com and it will sit there and spin forever. Entering hardforum.com into my url bar takes me straight there, minimal load time. Pressing return during a search on google greys out the content area and stops the spinning.
[08:14] <bsdfreak> reisio: as you may know, the atom in question, an n270, does not have vt-x.  a virtualized ubuntu with cli only may be decent, but running any sort of x11 + window manager would be pretty painful, unless it's something like blackbox or another simplistic wm.
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> rnd1: can u still enter grub at boot?
[08:14] <rnd1> I am in the system
[08:14] <reisio> bsdfreak: all things I'm not remotely interested in
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> rnd1: reinstall the package you removed?
[08:15] <rnd1> lotuspsychje: I need to cleanup the kernel modules mess and possibly some other /etc mess
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> rnd1:or try to sudo apt-get upgrade and update
[08:15] <Guest44777> are there any web based implementations of Ubuntu?
[08:16] <wrapids> Finally, an error: Error 408, your browser did not send a complete request in time.
[08:16] <rnd1> lotuspsychje: is there any way to spot not-iin-the deb
[08:16] <rnd1> files_
[08:16] <ruhil> wrapids: which browser?
[08:17] <wrapids> ruhil: ~all of them
[08:17] <tking> pls if i backup my ubuntu will it also backup installed APPs?
[08:17] <wrapids> that came from chromium, upload is failing across them all though
[08:17] <reisio> tking: if you back it up comprehensively, yup
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> rnd1: did you try to update?
[08:17] <rnd1> The following packages have been kept back: ghc6-doc
[08:17] <rnd1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> rnd1: mostly if you remove packs, updates reinstall defaults
[08:18] <ruhil> BlueEagle: any ideas?
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> !info ghc-doc
[08:18] <wrapids> ruhil: Running the standard test on speedtest.net my upload keeps refusing to connect also.
[08:18] <gabriele93> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1057104/ how i can solve it?
[08:19] <tking> reisio, am having up problem with my ubuntu on resume i don't see the login screen it just boots to desktop, won't back up and restore mean am restoring the probs
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> rnd1: i think dpkg can spot not installed stuff, ask in channel please
[08:19] <[Trident]SamWinc> how to decrypt a file which  is encrypted using solitare algo?
[08:19] <reisio> tking: won't what?
[08:19] <rnd1> lotuspsychje: in which channel?
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> here
[08:20] <rnd1> lotuspsychje: ok. thanks
[08:20] <tking> reisio, now if i reboot this ubuntu, my system doesn't show where to enter pasword it just goes to desktop and shows some logink key ring
[08:20] <reisio> tking: ...which asks for your password?
[08:21] <tking> reisio, y
[08:21] <rnd1> Is there any way to check /etc for things, not configured through dpkg? Thanks!
[08:21] <korn333> Hwo could help me install Photoshop and Illustrator in Ubunut 12?
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> !info cruft
[08:21] <ikonia> korn333: those are windows applications.
[08:22] <korn333> ikonia: so will i have to just live without them forever if i want to use ubuntu?
[08:22] <ruhil> korn333: and do not expect them to run on wine :P
[08:22] <ikonia> korn333: pretty much,
[08:22] <rnd1> ruft
[08:22] <reisio> tking: so what's the difference
[08:22] <rnd1> lotuspsychje: was that cruft a hint to me?
[08:23] <wrapids> ruhil: Any ideas?
[08:23] <korn333> Ok, so is there any one here who is a  graphic designer, 3d artist etc. and actually doing business with the opensource alternatives ?
[08:23] <ruhil> korn333: you can make your system dual boot between ubuntu and windows
[08:23] <wrapids> Also, how do I flush the dns? I'd google it, but ya know...
[08:23] <ruhil> wrapids: sorry man
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> rnd1: i think cruft can show uninstalled packages(not tested myself sorry)
[08:23] <rnd1> lotuspsychje: thanks. I will read the man and try
[08:24] <korn333> The main idea was that i get rid of using photoshop and illu and 3d max and maya... and move to all the free alternatives. But I am afraid that none will accept my work for money if it's not in one of the cool bigshot softwares
[08:24] <ruhil> korn333: you can try open source alternatives for photoshop (i guess that's gimp) on ubuntu, i have not used them though
[08:24] <tking> reisio,  when i reboot ubuntu, i dont see login screen to enter password before i boot to desktop this is what i see https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46512205/photo%282%29.JPG
[08:24] <korn333> Yea, Gimp, inkscape , Blender are alternatives to me.
[08:25] <ikonia> korn333: then you should stick with Windows
[08:25] <eprom_> Hello Ubuntu users
[08:25] <ikonia> korn333: if you feel no-one will take your work from tools like gimp, stick with windows and photoshop
[08:25] <reisio> korn333: there's no way they could tell
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> rnd1: man dpkg too might be usefull
[08:26] <reisio> tking: so what's the problem?
[08:26] <korn333> I thought that  there should be people over here who  would tell me othervise
[08:26] <reisio> korn333: that'd be me
[08:26] <korn333> Some client require source files upon project completion
[08:26] <tking> reisio, i want to fix it
[08:26] <reisio> korn333: so what?
[08:26] <reisio> tking: what's broken?
[08:26] <ikonia> korn333: we don't know what your clients requirements are, only you do
[08:26] <rnd1> lotuspsychje: yes. thanks. OTOH, I need to rebuild the kernel/init* to remove fglrx...
[08:26] <ikonia> korn333: it is up to you what you use, use what you feel will work best for you
[08:26] <tking> reisio, login screen
[08:26] <reisio> tking: how is it broken?
[08:27] <Guest1> I'm trying to install ubuntu for the first time, and I'm getting an error, does anybody know what the different error messages mean?
[08:27] <tking> reisio,  it is not normal, normally u reboot ur compuper u hv to login to be able to see the desktop, now any1 can access my desktop they just reboot my pc viola!
[08:28] <ikonia> Guest1: explain the issue
[08:28] <ruhil> Guest1, give the error message
[08:28] <reisio> tking: don't they have to type the password?
[08:28] <tking> no
[08:28] <tking> reisio, u reboot and it goes desktop straight!
[08:29] <tking> reisio, no password or login screen shown,
[08:29] <Guest1> ikonia it says Try (hd0,0:): FAT32: error: "prefix" is not set. Then after 30 seconds goes to GNU Grub version 1.99-21ubuntu3 has a paragraph of text, with an entry line that says grub> and I can type something here
[08:29] <wrapids> Could someone point me in the direction of a good AV?
[08:29] <ikonia> Guest1: ok, that is a grub error showing it's not installed correctly
[08:29] <reisio> wrapids: clamav
[08:30] <ikonia> wrapids: you shouldn't need one for linux
[08:30] <ikonia> reisio: that will not protect his linux machine
[08:30] <reisio> ikonia: the sun rises in the east
[08:30] <ikonia> reisio: what ?
[08:30] <reisio> ikonia: thought it was state the obvious time
[08:31] <itmannen>  /join #ubuntu-se
[08:31] <ikonia> reisio: don't be smart - he asked for antivirus help, and you recommended a product that won't help him, thats poor show if you "know" it won't help as you've just stated
[08:31] <reisio> ikonia: uh, he asked for an av and I told him one
[08:31] <reisio> that will absolutely help him
[08:31] <ikonia> reisio: you know the context of what he was asking
[08:32] <reisio> yes I do, which is why I gave him his answer
[08:32] <ikonia> reisio: how will clamav help him ?
[08:32] <reisio> ikonia: it's an av, he wanted an av
[08:32] <Guest1> ikonia, i've tried installing it three different ways. The first way was with that windows installer, it was laggy and slow. The second time was with a CD, and it would load past where I get the error I typed, but it would only load to a blank purple screen before the log-in. The third time, I get this. Would you be able to help me with the installation?
[08:32] <wrapids> Somethings gotta help. SO is giving me problems now too.
[08:32] <tking> hi pls how do i bacup my Virtual machine?
[08:32] <metallicanirvana> can someone help me with chntpw? I have tried using it and its not working
[08:33] <ruhil> Guest1: try doing "ls" there and see all the partitions, then do ls over all partitions(like - ls (hd0,2)) to see the files and decide which is your ubuntu partition
[08:33] <ikonia> Guest1: how did you install the third time ?
[08:33] <tking> am using ubuntu, but I need to backup my virtualbox which has windows so when i do a re-install of ubuntu, i don't hv to start installing all the windows stuff
[08:34] <wrapids> reisio: I'm open to other suggestions.
[08:34] <ruhil> tking: you must have the harddisk image stored somewhere on your system, you just need that to backup
[08:35] <tking> ruhil, so i should just copy that right?
[08:35] <Guest1> ikonia, if I have a hard drive with two partitions, first partition has windows XP, second partition will eventially have Ubuntu, will doing this "LS" affect my windows installation?
[08:35] <ruhil> tking: yeah, you can do that, then the next time you install virtual box, create a new virtual machine to use that harddisk image
[08:36] <tking> ok
[08:36] <ikonia> Guest1: how did you actually install ubuntu this time (what method)
[08:36] <Guest1> ikonia, i'm sorry if my questions seem stupid, I'm just not sure what "ls" does, or where I do it
[08:36] <ruhil> tking: or you can backup the virtual machine file as well (it must be located in "~/virtaulbx vms" folder)
[08:37] <Guest1> ikonia first I went into windows, formatted the 2nd partition with NTFS, went back to the CD installation, and it told me NTFS wouldn't work, so I picked .ext4
[08:37] <ruhil> tking: the harddisk image will have an extension one of vdi,vmdk,vhd or hdd
[08:37] <tking> ruhil, am doing a reinstall right now i am using a 32bit ubuntu and its giving me probs. different probs.
[08:37] <ikonia> Guest1: so you installed with a CD on this occasion ?
[08:38] <Guest1> ikonia yes
[08:38] <wrapids> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11175896
[08:38] <ruhil> tking: using live usb/cd?
[08:38] <tking> ruhil, i want to install 64bit ubuntu
[08:38] <Guest1> ikonia I was told it's the best way, and its my first time, so I did that the 2nd and 3rd time
[08:38] <tking> i want to use USB for reinstall
[08:38] <ikonia> Guest1: nothing wrong with that.
[08:38] <ikonia> Guest1: how many hard disks do you have in your system ?
[08:39] <ruhil> tking: make sure that you can insall 64bit on your machine(i don't know how to do that :P)
[08:39] <Guest1> ikonia, including external? or just internal?
[08:39] <ruhil> btw, what's the problem?
[08:39] <tking> ruhil, but am scared of loosing files and hving to reinstall all the apps that took me days
[08:39] <ikonia> Guest1: either, any, internal/external/usb/anything
[08:39] <operatorplik> opo
[08:40] <ruhil> tking: you can take backup of files but yeah you will have to reinstall the apps :)
[08:40] <Nirrad> Hello how would i disable keyboard on a laptop  Thank you
[08:40] <Guest1> ikonia Four. Two internal, and two external, although I haven't hooked up the 2nd external yet.
[08:40] <tking> ok
[08:40] <glitsj16> tking: if you want to disable auto-login .. 'gnome-control-center user-accounts' , hit the 'Unlock', change 'Automatic Login' setting to 'off' and hit 'Lock' to apply your changes
[08:40] <ikonia> Guest1: ok, that's not so bad
[08:41] <ikonia> Guest1: notes for the future, if possible make sure you don't have any external disks connected when installing ubuntu, that is a common cause of the issue you are seeing (although id doesn't sound like it in this case)
[08:41] <Guest1> ikonia, the one external thats connected now is 3 terabyte
[08:41] <ikonia> Guest1: remove that disk and try booting
[08:41] <wrapids> Would someone mind making a comment of any sort on that SO post to grab moderator attention?
[08:42] <wrapids> I'm just spinning when I try to flag or comment it, so I can't get it moved to the appropriate section.
[08:42] <Guest1> ikonia, would unplugging its power source work just as well, or do I need to unplug the USB cord?
[08:42] <ikonia> Guest1: unplugging the power source should be fine
[08:42] <ruhil> tking: you can use "dpkg --get-selection" to get the list of all the installed packages, it will really huge, though :P
[08:43] <tking> glitsj16, thanks seems it has been done
[08:43] <Guest1> ikonia, ok, I'm rebooting now and seeing what it does
[08:44] <glitsj16> tking: np, one less thing
[08:44] <Guest1> ikonia, same result, but it didn't take it 30-50 seconds to go from error to the grub screen. It was more like 5 seconds
[08:44] <ikonia> Guest1: ok, so currently there are just 2 internal disk, no external/usb or anything
[08:45] <Guest1> ikonia, right
[08:45] <ikonia> Guest1: ok, is ubuntu on the first or second disk ?
[08:45] <Guest1> ikonia, first. I have 2 partitions on that drive. 1 is windows, 1 will be ubuntu
[08:45] <ikonia> Guest1: ok
[08:46] <ikonia> Guest1: do you now have a swap partition defined ?
[08:46] <wrapids> Would anyone be willing to make a comment on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11175896 ? I cannot submit comments or flag the post, my browsers are just spinning. I'm having some sort of network issue and can't get my closed question moved to the approrpiate site.
[08:46] <Varikonniemi> is there something i should consider since i am installing ubuntu on a pentium3 setup?
[08:46] <igor__> всем привет
[08:46] <Guest1> ikonia, i'm not sure what a swap partition is. Explain it, and i'll tell you if I did that
[08:46] <ikonia> Guest1: ok, hang on, let me grab you a document
[08:48] <ikonia> Guest1: ok, I'm going to ask you to re-install using a CD one more time (please). Make sure no external disks are powered on, no usb, just the two internal ones.
[08:48] <ikonia> Guest1: I'm also going to ask you to skim read this url https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation BEFORE installing then reference parts of it as you proceed with the install in more detail
[08:48] <rnd1> Question again. How do I restore X on ubuntu, can just install ubuntu-desktop?
[08:49] <Guest1> ikonia, ok, should I go into that now, or is there some swap partition step I should do before I begin?
[08:50] <ikonia> Guest1: that document will explain it for you
[08:54] <jluc> hello people
[08:54] <jluc> i just installed and upgraded ubuntu fine
[08:55] <jluc> when i now connect an external drive through esata port, i cant access to its content
[08:55] <jluc> but it appears in the drive pane of nautilus
[08:56] <jluc> but when i click on the disk icon, content pane is not upgraded
[08:56] <jluc> and /media is empty
[08:56] <metallicanirvana> can someone help me with ophcrack?
[08:57] <ikonia> metallicanirvana: nope, not here
[08:57] <bsdfreak> metallicanirvana: this may not be the best channel for your request.
[08:57] <metallicanirvana> bsdfreak: any other channels that you can suggest?
[08:57] <ikonia> metallicanirvana: use the alis bot
[08:57] <ikonia> metallicanirvana: it will help you find channels
[08:58] <metallicanirvana> ikonia: how?
[08:58] <ikonia> metallicanirvana: message the bot "help"
[08:58] <Guest1> ikonia, will you be online for about a half hour or so?
[08:58] <metallicanirvana> ikonia: thats what i'm asking, how to message the bot. sorry  complete noob here.
[08:58] <ikonia> Guest1: probably (no promise)
[08:59] <ikonia> metallicanirvana: /join #freenode (the network help channel) and they can help you with the IRC basics
[08:59] <bsdfreak> metallicanirvana: you may have better luck searching google for your request.  i'm sure there are tutorials.
[09:00] <metallicanirvana> bsdfreak: thanks
[09:00] <AnAnt> Hello, I am using LDAP authentication on my machine, the problem is that lightdm (unity-greeter)  doesn't show all users on LDAP, neither does it allow entering an arbitrary user, how can I fix that ?
[09:01] <ikonia> AnAnt: lightdm won't list users from the ldap schema, it will require you to type in a valid username
[09:01] <AnAnt> ikonia: actually, it does sometimes, but not all of them
[09:01] <Guest1> ikonia, ok, I'm about to reinstall again, but when I get to the one part that I was semi-guessing at I'll let you know
[09:02] <AnAnt> ikonia: anyways, lightdm doesn't allow "typing" a username either !
[09:02] <ikonia> AnAnt: ok, so how do you know you have ldap auth setup and working
[09:02] <ikonia> AnAnt: can you login as a local user and test
[09:02] <ikonia> Guest1: please ask if you have any doubts
[09:02] <Panocia> .org
[09:03] <AnAnt> ikonia: LDAP auth setup is working , because I can login using LDAP user on virtual terminal (ie. tty1-6)
[09:03] <ikonia> AnAnt: ok, have you looked at the pam rules for lightdm ?
[09:03] <AnAnt> ikonia: I don't know about pam rules for lightdm
[09:04] <Guest1> ikonia, ok, with the first thing on the cd I see is try ubuntu, or install ubuntu. I know theres an install option from within try ubuntu, but i've always chosen install. This doesn't matter which I pick, right?
[09:04] <ikonia> AnAnt: it's worth checking
[09:04] <ikonia> Guest1: no difference
[09:05] <AnAnt> ikonia: what are those pam file/line to add ?
[09:05] <ikonia> it depends what's there
[09:05] <ikonia> AnAnt: how did you setup ldap auth eg: what did you change to get ubuntu to auth against ldap in the first place ?
[09:06] <ikonia> AnAnt: you should have had to change some pam rules for that
[09:07] <AnAnt> ikonia: sudo apt-get install libnss-ldap; sudo auth-client-config -t nss -p lac_ldap; sudo pam-auth-update
[09:07] <ikonia> AnAnt: check out the last line......
[09:07] <ikonia> AnAnt: "pam update"
[09:07] <ikonia> AnAnt: check out the pam rules for lightdm, see what they are doing and where they look
[09:08] <Guest1> ikonia, ok heres the part I was always guessing on. Theres a slider bar. And under it says "advanced partitioning tool" and thats always what I used.
[09:08] <ikonia> Guest1: nothing wrong with that at all
[09:09] <Guest1> ikonia, I see /dev/sda6
[09:09] <ikonia> Guest1: you should see a disk that you can partition up as you see fit
[09:09] <ikonia> Guest1: quick question, you're not using any raid are you ?
[09:09] <Guest1> ikonia no, not sure what that is
[09:09] <ikonia> Guest1: then I'll assume not
[09:10] <azi> is there a way to disable the lately introduced desktop system and have the normal windowing style and menues?
[09:10] <lucafabio> !list
[09:11] <AnAnt> ikonia: what am I supposed to check in the last line: pam-auth-update ?
[09:11] <ikonia> AnAnt: nothing, I'm showing you that the last command you did "updates pam" so it's worth looking at if the pam rules where updated for lightdm too - as it sounds like they where not
[09:12] <Guest1> ikonia the one I keep using is /dev/sda6 type is ext4 size is 35308mb and 1389 is used. The weird thing is, the 2nd partition I partitioned in windows was only 32gb. Wouldn't 35308mb be 35GB?
[09:12] <ikonia> Guest1: roughtly yes
[09:12] <ikonia> Guest1: with overheads and rounding it could be about 32gb
[09:12] <ikonia> Guest1: how many partitions are on this disk ?
[09:13]  * rnd1 solved the problem with X: - removed ndivia-common, - /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh --force uninstalled wrongly installed driver, plus some apt-get install/remove/install fglrx showed me files to remove.
[09:13] <ikonia> Guest1: how many are the tool you are using now (partitioning tool showing you
[09:15] <Nirrad> Hello. Please could someone tell me how to disable a laptop keyboard . I want to connect an external one.
[09:15] <Nirrad> and  am usuing lubuntu 12.o4 lts
[09:15] <azi> Nirrad: just plug it in
[09:16] <Guest1> ikonia theres /dev/sda which is totally blank. Theres /dev/sda1/ theres /dev/sda5/ theres /dev/sda6/ then theres /dev/sdb/ which is totally blank, theres /sdb1/ theres /dev/sdb5/ and /dev/sdb6/ So those blank ones, i'm not sure if those are actual partitons. I they don't have checkboxs
[09:16] <azi> Nirrad: why do you need to explicitly disable the laptop keyboard?
[09:16] <Nirrad> lol yes i know how to do that. my problem is my son poured a whole can of pop onto my laptop. so some of the keys are activated even though i am not touching them
[09:17] <ikonia> Guest1: the blank ones are the actual disk
[09:17] <ikonia> Guest1: eg: sda is disk 1, sda1 is partition 1 on disk 1, understant
[09:17] <Nirrad> i have tried cleaning it extensively but but not quite right
[09:18] <ikonia> Guest1: may I suggest a simple partition layout to make this an easy install ?
[09:18] <Nirrad> i am also in the process of trying to order a replacemne t online as we chat
[09:18] <Guest1> ikonia, so then all of sda are partitions on my first hard drive, that has windows, and all of the sdb are on the slave drive?
[09:18] <ikonia> Guest1: correct
[09:19] <Guest1> ikonia, hold on, let me go back and check one thing
[09:21] <Guest1> ikonia, I think I may have found part of the problem. It was trying to install it to my slave hard drive. But I still get the original error I got before. So I'm going to type it, and then type what I did last time to fix it.
[09:21] <ikonia> Guest1: hold on for a moment
[09:21] <ikonia> Guest1: what data is on the second drive ?
[09:22] <Guest1> ikonia, its an old hard drive from a windows machine that crashed blue screen of death, so I just use it as a slave
[09:22] <ikonia> Guest1: ok, lets clean up then
[09:22] <Guest1> ikonia, so basically just random stuff
[09:22] <ikonia> Guest1: anything of value on it ?
[09:22] <Guest1> ikonia, yeah, I'd rather not touch that hard drive for this, and i'm hoping nothing good was lost.
[09:23] <ikonia> Guest1: how many partitions should be on the second hard disk ?
[09:23] <SandJ> Ubuntu 12.04, how do I tidy up the "Dash Home"?  That is, restore the list of recent apps and recent files to be "as new"?
[09:24] <Guest1> ikonia, just the one, but theres actually 3. One NTFS, one ext4 and one swap
[09:24] <ikonia> Guest1: deelte the ext4 and swap partitions on the second disk
[09:24] <ikonia> Guest1: make sure there is no confusion
[09:25] <Guest1> ikonia, theres no way that even could be windows could there? Thats going to be linux stuff no matter what that i'm deleting?
[09:25] <ikonia> Guest1: no
[09:25] <ikonia> Guest1: you can delete safely
[09:27] <Guest1> ikonia ok, so now theres just sdb1 and free space on that disk
[09:28] <ikonia> Guest1: better, now do the same on the first disk
[09:28] <ikonia> Guest1: make it so there is only the 1 NTFS partition on sda
[09:29] <wayne7> Hi Ubuntu users, Can you help me setup and run GNUnet. I have installed this P2P program using Synaptic Package Manager and run the start the configuration wizard but GNUnet doesn't do anything. I don't know where to start. I've read all the info on the GNUnet and Ubuntu websites but they haven't helped. I'm not a programmer or developer. I just want to use GNUnet the way I use Torrent for P2P file sharing. Synaptic installed al
[09:29] <wayne7> l the necessary files okay.  The setup wizard seemed to work but it failed to update the GNUnet program.
[09:30] <gartral> !p2p | wayne7
[09:30] <Guest1> ikonia, ok, i've deleted the sda6, sda5 is NTFS, where windows is, but i'm not going to delete sda1, because it's about 5gb in fat32, and it came formatted that way when I bought the PC......i'm not quite sure what it is. I think its some propriatary software.
[09:31] <ikonia> Guest1: that's a bit annoying
[09:31] <ikonia> Guest1: can you tell if sda5 is a primary or extended partition, it soulds like it should be a primary
[09:31] <gartral> anyway, is anyone else here experiencing a really weird bug in Chromium-browser where it thinks something has "hijacked" your default serch engine and switces it back to google, even if it's already set for google?
[09:32] <Guest1> sda5 is the primary for windows, it's 79gb
[09:32] <Guest1> oops
[09:32] <ikonia> Guest1: how much ram do you have ?
[09:32] <Guest1> ikonia 2GB
[09:33] <ikonia> Guest1: ok, so can you please create a primary partition and mark it as "swap" make it 4GB in size
[09:33] <gartral> Guest1: your indeed correct about NOT wanting too format that fat32 partition! most pc manufactuers now preload things like drivers and their "Suite" of software for the ease of reloading windows.
[09:33] <Ycarene> Ok, is there a ppa out there that includes ia32-libs-dev?
[09:34] <ikonia> Ycarene: it's in the repo - you don't need a ppa
[09:34] <Ycarene> "E: Package 'ia32-libs'dev' has no installation candidate"
[09:34] <Ycarene> "E: Package 'ia32-libs-dev' has no installation candidate"
[09:34] <Dory> What the best browser for the slow Atom N270 processor
[09:35] <ikonia> Ycarene: that is a metapackage - for many 32bit packages, you get the dev package for the individual 32bit package
[09:35] <Guest1> ikonia should the new table be primary or logical?
[09:35] <ikonia> Guest1: primary
[09:36] <Guest1> ikonia and should it be begining or end?
[09:36] <ikonia> Guest1: beginning of the free space
[09:36] <Guest1> ikonia and what should I put for the mount point?
[09:36] <Ycarene> ikonia - Doesn't seem to be the case here
[09:36] <ikonia> Ycarene: it is the case everywhere
[09:37] <ikonia> Ycarene: eg: the meta package will contain various libraries from the 32bit build of the gcc and glibc package
[09:37] <Guest1> ikonia, oh, I guess i cant use that feild
[09:37] <ikonia> Ycarene: so if you want the dev libs, you get the 32bit package-dev
[09:37] <ikonia> Guest1: nothign for swap
[09:37] <ikonia> Guest1: nothing for swap
[09:37] <Ycarene> Hmm
[09:38] <Guest1> ikonia ok, now I want a new partition from the free space to be used for the ubuntu installation?
[09:38] <ikonia> Guest1: correct, how much free space do you have ?
[09:40] <Guest1> ikonia it says 31312mb which, i'm begining to wonder if I should go back into windows, use magic partition to add a few GB to the free space first. It should at this point be 28gb. Do I need more?
[09:40] <ikonia> Guest1: no no no no
[09:40] <Dory> how do I install opera?
[09:41] <ikonia> Guest1: ok, create one more partition (primary) that uses up all free space, select "ext4" and the mount point is "/" clear ?
[09:41] <Guest1> ikonia, begining or end?
[09:42] <ikonia> Guest1: beginning again
[09:43] <wayne7> Dory, Just download it and it instals itself.
[09:43] <Guest1> ikonia device for boot loader installation, sda3?
[09:43] <ikonia> Guest1: no sda
[09:43] <Guest1> ikonia, thats where I had my problem
[09:44] <Guest1> ikonia, ok, my windows laptop unfortunately just installed some update that needs to restart, so while its installing ubuntu on my PC, i'm going to restart, but i'll be right back in 2-3 minutes.
[09:45] <ikonia> Guest1: not a problem
[09:47] <wayne7> Hi Ubuntu users, I read the web infor Ubotto referred me to but cannot see how it is relevant to my problem with GNUnet. Can you help me setup and run GNUnet. I have installed this P2P program using Synaptic Package Manager and run the start the configuration wizard but GNUnet doesn't do anything. I don't know where to start. I've read all the info on the GNUnet and Ubuntu websites but they haven't helped. I'm not a programmer o
[09:47] <wayne7> r developer. I just want to use GNUnet the way I use Torrent for P2P file sharing. Synaptic installed al
[09:47] <wayne7> l the necessary files okay.  The setup wizard seemed to work but it failed to update the GNUnet program.
[09:48] <bobweaver> wayne7,  you are using gnunet-fuse ?
[09:48] <wayne7> No
[09:49] <Ycarene> Ugh, this is stupid, if I try to install the i386 version of libfreetype6-dev it wants to remove my video driver and gcc
[09:49] <Ycarene> It's like playing whack-a-mole
[09:50] <Dory> this is...
[09:50] <Dory> Ubuntuuuu
[09:50] <bobweaver> wayne7,  you have tried to play with gnunet-dbg ?
[09:51] <bobweaver> I think that there is also a gui for the debuger ^^
[09:51] <wayne7> bobweaver, yes I am using gnunetfuse It its installed okay but I don't know what it does.
[09:51] <Guest1> ikonia ok, same message I got before. "The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again.
[09:52] <wayne7> bobweaver I'm not a developer and I don't know how to run the debug
[09:52] <bobweaver> ahh
[09:52] <gartral> anyway, is anyone else here experiencing a really weird bug in Chromium-browser where it thinks something has "hijacked" your default serch engine and switces it back to google, even if it's already set for google?
[09:52] <Zyewni> Morning all. Any partitioning experts here?
[09:53] <bobweaver> let me try to start it up and run it
[09:53] <bobweaver> wayne7,  ^^
[09:53] <wayne7> bobweaver thanks . I have it running on aanother computer next to me if that helps.
[09:54] <ikonia> Guest1: re-install but see if the partition's are the same as you left them
[09:55] <bobweaver> wayne7,  I just installed gnunet-gtk-dev and it is working great what are you tring to do on the network ?
[09:56] <Guest1> ikonia the only other thing I didn't say is I didn't checkbox "download updates while installing". I figured I'd do that once I installed. Should that be checked? And should Install third party software be checked?
[09:57] <bobweaver> wayne7,  that set up everything for me nice and clean server and also clients and all that jazz not sure if that helps but good luck
[09:57] <Zyewni> I'll just go ahead and ask my question then, shall I? What would be the ideal partitioning scheme for a 500GB HD with Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04
[09:57] <Zyewni> ?
[09:57] <ikonia> Guest1: do it after, keep it simple
[09:57] <wayne7> bobweaver I'll b happy if I can get it to do anything. the tabs work but the search for exampel doesn't find any keyword at all.
[09:58] <Guest1> ikonia, ok, this is a weird new bug
[09:58] <ikonia> Guest1: what is ?
[09:59] <dalek_> Is there any way to add a list of radio stations (in .pls or .m3u format) into Banshee instead of adding each station one by one?
[09:59] <StarChild_> Has anyone have problem with GRUB_GFXMODE after using guided LVM engryption in Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[09:59] <bobweaver> wayne7,  you have added stuff to your network ? meaning that you are using gnunet to host torrents not search for them correct ?
[10:00] <Guest1> ikonia [3634.204790] BUG: unable to handle kernal NULL pointer dereferance at 00000140
[10:00] <StarChild_> It is being ignored somehow. It works when I dont choose to encrupt during the installation. I find this very strange? Or is it by design?
[10:00] <Guest1> ikonia never saw that before. Its an all black screen with small white text.
[10:01] <wayne7> bobweaver, Does gnunet download torrent files or other files. Whenever I download torrents, BitTorrent does it okay.
[10:02] <dalek_> How do I add multiple radio stations to banshee instead of one at a time?
[10:05] <c0deMaster> where to find screen color profiles?
[10:05] <dalek_> Where is banshee's radio list stored... perhaps I can paste the radio list into the file directly with gedit?
[10:05] <wayne7> bobweaver, No I haven't tried to publish anythign to gnunet. I can't find the network. I joined them by siigning up on the web.
[10:06] <bobweaver> wayne7,  see PM
[10:06] <Guest1> ikonia still there?
[10:07] <wayne7> bobweaver, I don't know what you mean by PM
[10:08] <Onixs_> PM
[10:08] <Onixs_> nasty!
[10:11] <Vincenzo> !lista
[10:11] <ikonia> Guest1: yes
[10:11] <dalek_> How do I transfer my Rhythmbox radio station list to Banshee?
[10:12] <Guest1> ikonia, did you see my error earlier?
[10:12] <dalek_> I need to move list of about 50 radio stations from Rhythmbox to Banshee.... HOW?
[10:13] <ikonia> Guest1: no
[10:13] <Matisse> hi
[10:13] <Guest1> ikonia [3634.204790] BUG: unable to handle kernal NULL pointer dereferance at 00000140
[10:13] <ikonia> Guest1: there must be more output than that
[10:14] <dalek_> is there ANY way to import a list of radio streams into Banshee.. any way at all?
[10:14] <Matisse> when installing ubuntu there is "UBUNTU NETBOOK" choosable. whats in there?
[10:14] <zykotick9> !repeat | dalek_
[10:14] <ikonia> dalek_: asking every 2 minutes won't change the answer
[10:14] <ikonia> Matisse: slightly different desktop layout
[10:15] <Matisse> ikonia, so instead of "ubuntu desktop" to choose?
[10:15] <Guest1> ikonia, there was, there was about 2 paragraphs of text, but since you seemed like you were away, I tried restarting the PC without the cd, to see if I could get in. Same result as before we started. I'll put the cd back in, and see if it gives me the same error
[10:15] <ikonia> Matisse: what ?
[10:15] <ikonia> Guest1: hang on
[10:16] <ikonia> Guest1: 1.) when the desktop error occurred, what did you do after than ? did you try to re-install ?
[10:16] <Matisse> ikonia, theres also a software selection called "Ubuntu Desktop"
[10:16] <ikonia> Matisse: yes
[10:16] <ikonia> and ?
[10:16] <Matisse> what happens when installing both
[10:17] <ikonia> you get the option of two desktop layouts
[10:17] <Guest1> ikonia, I tried installing, and at the end it said an unrecoverable error had occured. So you told me to try to reinstall. When I tried to reinstall, it gave me that weird bug.
[10:18] <Matisse> ikonia, so there's like a different window manger?
[10:18] <Zyewni> If anyone's around to answer some partitioning questions, please let me know
[10:18] <ikonia> Guest1: right you need to boot from the CD again, select advanced partitions, are the partitions the same as before the crash ?
[10:18] <ikonia> Matisse: a different desktop layout
[10:18] <ikonia> Zyewni: just ask, someone will answer if they know
[10:18] <k1l> !ask | Zyewni
[10:18] <bobweaver> Zyewni,  I can try what is qustion ?
[10:18] <Guest1> ikonia, i'll try again, it didn't even let me get that far though
[10:18] <Matisse> ikonia, and how can I choose?
[10:19] <Zyewni> What would be the ideal partitioning scheme for a 500GB drive with Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04
[10:19] <k1l> Matisse: you can choose the DE in the loginwindow
[10:19] <bekks> Zyewni: there is no "ideal" partitioning scheme.
[10:19] <Zyewni> Ok, let me rephrase
[10:19] <bobweaver> Zyewni,  that is up to the user try what are you trying to do daul boot is this your 1st time on gnu/linux ?
[10:19] <Matisse> k1l, so theres Ubuntu normal and Ubuntu netbook version?
[10:20] <Matisse> Which consequences does home-partition encryption have? Do I need another password and is it possible to configure it after installation?
[10:20] <ikonia> Matisse: you shouldn't need home disk encryption
[10:20] <ikonia> Matisse: do you have sensitive data on your home directory
[10:20] <Zyewni> Yes, first time with anything other than Windows or older versions of Mac OS.  When I installed Ubuntu, I did so with 50GB unallocated. Ubuntu took the 50 and set up an additional 4GB swap.
[10:20] <bekks> Zyewni: And?
[10:20] <liuluyao> 大家好
[10:20] <Zyewni> Should I increase the swap?
[10:20] <liuluyao> 有人在吗？
[10:20] <Zyewni> Would that increase performance any?
[10:20] <bsdfreak> nah
[10:20] <bekks> Zyewni: Without telling us how much RAM you have - no?
[10:21] <bobweaver> !cn | liuluyao
[10:21] <Matisse> ikonia, not really, but i fear the netbook will be stolen some time...
[10:21] <Zyewni> 4GB Ram
[10:21] <bobweaver> I think
[10:21] <liuluyao> Hello
[10:21] <bekks> Zyewni: Then you dont need more than 4GB for being able to use suspend to disk.
[10:21] <Zyewni> So expanding the swap partition would be pointless?
[10:22] <bekks> Zyewni: Beyond 4GB, yes.
[10:22] <Matisse> ikonia, so if I dont need another password that means no disadvants against a advantages
[10:22] <Matisse> -s
[10:22] <ikonia> Matisse: is the data on your netbook very sensitive ?
[10:23] <Zyewni> Ok. Also, I've seen in some other places where people have put there /home folder on a separate partition - what are the benefits of doing that?
[10:23] <Matisse> ikonia, not at the moment, but I'm hiring on the CIA
[10:23] <Zyewni> *their
[10:23] <k1l> Zyewni: windows likes to sit at the start of the hdd. then there could be 3 partitions for ubuntu, like /, /home and swap. then there should be a partition for data exchange between ubuntu and windows. this should be the biggest partition
[10:23] <ikonia> Matisse: you're hiring on the CIA ? what does that even mean ?
[10:23] <bekks> Zyewni: The benefit os the separation of program data and personal data.
[10:23] <bekks> Zyewni: *is
[10:23] <Matisse> ikonia, sorry, just a joke
[10:23] <Zyewni> So that if the OS gets borked, my data isn't?
[10:24] <bobweaver> Zyewni,  if all stuff hits the fan then home partition is easy to get back. Sometimes it also makes it so you can mount your home dir to any OS
[10:24] <Guest1> ikonia ok, I didn't get the error this time.
[10:24] <bekks> Zyewni: Having a backup, your data isnt borked ever. ;)
[10:24] <ikonia> Matisse: right, so if you don't need encryption you are just going to make your system harder to use and manage unless you have genuinly sensitive data on the netbook,
[10:24] <bekks> bobweaver: Which is not true for OS == Windows.
[10:24] <ikonia> Matisse: %90 of people who use it don't need it and it just causes them pain in the long run
[10:24] <bobweaver> bekks,  correct I forgot about windows
[10:24] <Zyewni> Bobweaver, being able to mount my home in Windows would be helpful
[10:24] <Zyewni> How would I set that up?
[10:25] <bekks> Zyewni: You will not be able to.
[10:25] <Zyewni> Would I have to reinstall?
[10:25] <Shauni> test
[10:25] <bekks> Zyewni: Reinstallation and using your /home from Windows do not have anything in common.
[10:25] <Zyewni> Ok. Even still, the security aspect is interesting
[10:25] <k1l> Zyewni: you need an extra data partition for that. read my posting
[10:25] <Matisse> ikonia, actually thats what I wanted to know BUT what is it that makes it annoying/painful?
[10:25] <bobweaver> Zyewni,  I mis spoke I meant any gnu/linux  sorry
[10:25] <bekks> Zyewni: There is no security aspect.
[10:26] <ikonia> Matisse: managing a core partition that the OS needs to run with encyption
[10:26] <Zyewni> I meant security as in not losing my data if I accidentally kill the OS
[10:26] <bekks> Zyewni: The security aspect is called "make a backup".
[10:26] <Zyewni> lol
[10:26] <Matisse> ikonia, whats the consequence for me as a user?
[10:26] <Matisse> slower computer?
[10:27] <Matisse> typing extra password?
[10:27] <k1l> Zyewni: if you accidently delete the wrong partition, nothing helps besides a backup. so dont count too much on that one
[10:27] <ikonia> Matisse: just a headache and hassle
[10:27] <ikonia> Matisse: it's more than just typing an extra password, what happens if you have problems with it....your data is worthless/gone
[10:27] <Zyewni> k1l, noted
[10:28] <ikonia> Matisse: it's a layer of complexity that just causes pain unless you know how ot manage it and you actually need it
[10:28] <Matisse> ok
[10:28] <Zyewni> So let's say I shave another 50 off the Windows partition. How would I make that new partition my /home?
[10:29] <Matisse> ikonia, thanks for the long answer!
[10:29] <Guest1> ikonia, the partitions are the same, but this thing is really bugging out.
[10:30] <k1l> Zyewni: you need several partitions. 1 or 2 for windows. 2 or 3 for ubuntu (/, swap and maybe a seperate /home) and the the biggest one should be the data partition where windows and ubuntu can handle stuff (ntfs)
[10:30] <Guest1> It took 3 attempts to even get to that screen. It keeps crapping out on me before I even get halfway done with the installation
[10:30] <Zyewni> Windows has 3 ATM
[10:30] <ikonia> Guest1: please stop making random phrases, if there is a problem - say so and describe it, "bugging out" is not helpful
[10:31] <Zyewni> Linux has a 50GB partition 'Filesystem' and a 4.1GB partition 'Swap Space'
[10:31] <ikonia> Guest1: so in the partition tool, you currently have 4 partitions on disk a (the fat one, the ntfs one, the swap on and the ext4 one) and sdb has 1 ntfs partition on ?
[10:31] <ndxtg> Need your help. I've installed Xauth on Ubuntu Server 12.04. What do I need on my laptop (Ubuntu Desktop 10.10) to "remote access with GUI" to this server?
[10:32] <Zyewni> Can I divvy up the 50GB filesystem partition as, say, a 30GB Filesystem and 20GB /home?
[10:32] <Guest1> ikonia, actually, sdb somehow has the ext4 and swap again....I don't even know how that happened....
[10:32] <Matisse> ndxtg, openssh
[10:32] <ikonia> Guest1: I'm going to stop helping you now, if you are not checking things as I asked
[10:32] <bekks> Zyewni: Not using partitions only. You'll have to use LVM to do that.
[10:33] <Zyewni> LVM?
[10:33] <ndxtg> Matisse: it's already on server & laptop, but what tool to "visualise" the server screen on my laptop X ?
[10:33] <Guest1> ikonia what am I not checking?
[10:33] <bekks> Zyewni: Logical Volume Manager.
[10:33] <ikonia> Guest1: I spefically asked you to verify if the partition table had stayed the same or reverted, you said it had stayed the same, now I find out it's not.
[10:33] <Zyewni> Yup, googling it
[10:34] <Guest1> ikonia I didn't see it had changed.
[10:34] <baga> Does anybody have a problem with fullscreen youtube video playback on Ati cards? even with video acceleration turned on in flash, every .flv video on youtube lags hard when in fullscreen. anyone know a way around that?
[10:34] <ikonia> Guest1: so you didn't check
[10:34] <Matisse> ndxtg, sorry, then I dont know. ssh with -X option would display the started programs remotely, but In your case I have no knowledge
[10:34] <ikonia> you just assumed
[10:34] <k1l> Zyewni: the ubuntu filesystem needs not that much, if you have a seperate /home. all the user data (downloads, pictures etc) comes into the /home. so 15-20gb for / is way than enough
[10:34] <Guest1> ikonia I checked, but I didn't notice it changed
[10:34] <Zyewni> Ok, that's a lot to take in, but I got the gist of it.
[10:34] <ikonia> Guest1: then you didn't check,
[10:35] <Zyewni> So can I safely shrink the Filesystem down to maybe 25?
[10:35] <ndxtg> Matisse: where to run "ssh -X" ? on server or on my laptop?
[10:35] <bekks> Zyewni: Basically even less is more than enough, when not storinga ll your downloads in your /home but in a seperate /mydata filesystem.
[10:36] <Matisse> ndxtg, example: you log into your server by ssh -X bla@bla.com. Then you start firefox in that ssh shell and it will be displayed on your laptop
[10:36] <k1l> Zyewni: i run a 7GB / and a 30GB /home. but i have a big data partition for the exchange with windows. keep in mind, that windows cant read the linux partitions
[10:36] <Zyewni> Ok, so putting aside the Windows partitions, for Ubuntu I should have:
[10:36] <Zyewni> Filesystem: 20GB
[10:36] <Zyewni> /home: ???
[10:36] <Zyewni> /mydata? : ??
[10:36] <Zyewni> Swap Space: 4GB
[10:37] <Zyewni> BRB. Baby is getting upset. Nap time I think.
[10:37] <ndxtg> Matisse: thanks alot, that's what I'm looking for!!!
[10:37] <blackshirts> swap space  4 gn?? I think too big
[10:37] <k1l> blackshirt: not for 4gb ram and suspend
[10:37] <bsdfreak> k1l: doesn't suspend just suspend to ram?  do you mean hibernate?
[10:38] <bekks> Zyewni: On my side: /boot 512M, swap 16G, / 2G, /opt 2G, /usr 16G, /usr/src 16G, /home 4G, /var 6G, /mnt/data 2T.
[10:38] <k1l> yep, hibernate
[10:38] <k1l> suspend2ram and suspend2disk (as correct technical terms)
[10:38] <sergio> !list
[10:39] <StarChild_> k1l: even if he formats the /home partition to ntfs?
[10:39] <Matisse> ndxtg, concerning security you could also use -Y
[10:39] <bekks> StarChild_: Thats not usabkle with linux then.
[10:39] <blackshirts> i think not good format your home with ntfs
[10:39] <k1l> StarChild_: that is not recommended
[10:39] <Zyewni> Is it safe to just go into the disk utility and shrink / ?
[10:39] <blackshirts> Ntfs was native windows
[10:40] <bekks> Zyewni: Not without having a backup.
[10:40] <bekks> blackshirts: And it is not native linux.
[10:40] <Guest92785> !list
[10:40] <bekks> blackshirts: Thats why it isnt recommended.
[10:40] <Zyewni> If I backup my data to the Windows partition, does that count? I don't have any physical media big enough
[10:40] <bekks> Zyewni: No.
[10:40] <ndxtg> Matisse: is there a way to resume session? e.g. after opening firefox & web pages. If SSH is closed. On next connection, Firefox starts again. Is there a way to keep "session" ?
[10:41] <blackshirts> use screen maybe
[10:41] <StarChild_> hmm.. I never had any problems with ubuntu and ntfs..
[10:41] <bekks> blackshirts: That wont help with X apps.
[10:41] <bekks> ndxtg: No, there is no way besides using things like vnc, nxclient/nxserver, etc.
[10:41] <Matisse> ndxtg, you mean in the case of accidently closed ssh sessions?
[10:42] <Zyewni> Assuming I've either backed up my files or am willing to lose them, how would I shrink / ? In Windows I had to defrag and chkdsk beforehand - I heard Ubuntu doesn't fragment files, therefore no need to defrag?
[10:43] <Matisse> ndxtg, if the ssh works fine, you can close firefox and if firefox is configured correct, then next time it will open the saved tabs
[10:43] <k1l> Zyewni: just start a live-cd/stick and use gparted
[10:43] <bekks> Zyewni: You would use a livecd like "gparted live" for doing that.
[10:43] <blackshirts> yes, use native linux filesystem
[10:43] <bekks> Zyewni: And you dont have to use things like defrag on linux.
[10:44] <bekks> Matisse: But it will be closed and reopened.
[10:44] <bekks> Matisse: There is no way to avoid that besides the apps mentioned above.
[10:44] <ndxtg> Matisse: hm thank you... not firefox particularly,like jdownloader and  virtual box etc... seems like I must go VNC like beeks said
[10:45] <bekks> ndxtg: VirtualBox doesnt need a GUI, it has a cli tool called VBoxManage too.
[10:45] <Zyewni> So I would put GParted on my usb, then reboot - then I would be able to shrink the partition without killing the OS? Would the steps from that point be obvious?
[10:45] <ndxtg> beeks: ta, didn't that before, will google it now :)
[10:46] <bekks> Zyewni: Have a backup handy, sicne no one garantees that you wont be loosing data by accidentally doing "something".
[10:46] <Zyewni> I've already backed up my really important files when I installed Ubuntu
[10:46] <dalek_> according to research there is no possible way to import a radio station list from Rhythmbox to Banshee except to enter each entry manually by hand :( what a useless program banshee has turned out to be :(
[10:46] <bekks> ndxtg: You dont have to google, vbox has a quite well documentation on www.virtualbox.org
[10:46] <Zyewni> On DVD, so they're secure
[10:46] <k1l> Zyewni: you wont get a garantee.
[10:47] <Zyewni> k1l, I'm not asking about my data.
[10:47] <Zyewni> I'm asking about not killing the OS
[10:47] <bekks> Zyewni: Same answer.
[10:47] <zykotick9> dalek_: not to mention, banshee is mono garbage
[10:47] <Matisse> ndxtg, yes in your case you'll need something that starts the program only on the server
[10:47] <k1l> Zyewni: that should work.
[10:48] <bekks> Matisse: Like the apps I already told him. :)
[10:48] <blackshirts> zyewni, you can't resize used partition, i mean active system....you should run of filesystem online resizing..i think
[10:49] <blackshirts> support
[10:49] <bekks> blackshirts: online shrinking isnt supported on ext4.
[10:49] <bekks> blackshirts: Thats why he needs something like gparted.
[10:49] <blackshirts> bekks, yes..
[10:49] <Zyewni> Ok, so let's say I've shrunk / down to 20, and figured out how to make the remaining 30 my /home.
[10:49] <Zyewni> Someone mentioned using a partition to share with Windows? Can you tell me more about that?
[10:50] <k1l> Zyewni: fire up your ubuntu cd/dvd and use the gparted
[10:50] <morsnowski> blackshirts, or he chroots unmount the partition and does it from the OS
[10:50] <blackshirts> bekks, maybe for some future, ext4 would support them
[10:50] <bekks> Zyewni: Create another partition, use it as /myshareddata and use ntfs on that filesystem.
[10:50] <bekks> morsnowski: Thats not possible.
[10:50] <k1l> Zyewni: if you want to use pictures/music/etc in windows and ubuntu you need a partition that both OSs can handle
[10:50] <morsnowski> no ?
[10:50] <bekks> morsnowski: No.
[10:50] <Zyewni> Ok, and that will be mountable in Ubuntu?
[10:51] <k1l> Zyewni: windows cant handle the linux partitions. so you nee an extra data partition with ntfs
[10:51] <Zyewni> Got it
[10:51] <k1l> that should be the biggest partitions, since the most stuff is user data
[10:52] <Zyewni> I think I'm going to leave my system as is for now, but thanks for all the information you've given me
[10:52] <blackshirts> congratulations
[10:54] <Zyewni> Oh, I did have another question. Are the partition labels used for anything other than my convenience? The Linux partitions currently aren't labeled, and Windows is labeled as Don's Machine, SYSTEM RESERVED, PQSERVICE. Can I change those labels?
[10:55] <k1l> Zyewni: on ubuntu its just for the users recocnition. i cant tell for other linuxes or windows
[10:56] <Zyewni> Ok, so I can put whatever labels I want on the Linux partitions
[10:56] <StarChild_> There is a program called Ext2Fsd for windows that can read frpm ext partitions, It's by default read-only state, and is for some reason not recommended to write to the ext4 partition.
[10:57] <StarChild_> from*
[10:57] <ikonia> because it causes corruption of ext file systems
[10:57] <StarChild_> yes.. but read-only should be safe
[10:57] <bekks> ikonia: right.
[10:57] <ikonia> StarChild_: no, it's n ot
[10:57] <ikonia> not
[10:57] <vlad_> Hi english-speaking bitches. Can you help me?
[10:57] <k1l> StarChild_: will you support all the users with lost data after using this :)
[10:57] <bekks> StarChild_: read only isnt that goog for writing things from windows ;)
[10:58] <StarChild_> I have used it my self, but as it wasn't recommended to write to ext4 I stoped using it
[10:58] <ikonia> StarChild_: it is not recommended to use it, full stop
[10:59] <nisdec> just get rid of windows for everything but gaming
[10:59] <k1l> StarChild_: so dont recommend it to others? or do you want that users loose data?
[10:59] <StarChild_> ok, why is it unsafe to use it in read-only mode?
[10:59] <ikonia> StarChild_: the mode doesn't change the parsing of the disk
[11:01] <StarChild_> ikonia: I didn't understand the last thing you trying to say
[11:01] <ikonia> StarChild_: then it's best you don't recommend it
[11:03] <Jens1981> hi i am trying to install ubuntu, every time it hangs on the migrationassistant, ive tried 4 times now. how do i get the installation working?
[11:03] <StarChild_> I'm just trying to understand why, when the read-only restriction is on (which it is by default)
[11:03] <wingnut2626> how do i determine the remote access address for a ssh server?
[11:04] <Jens1981> i dont need to migrate anything but window just freezes when i click next.
[11:04] <bekks> wingnut2626: it is the IP of the server that runs ssh.
[11:05] <wingnut2626> how do i find that?
[11:05] <bekks> wingnut2626: By typing "ifconfig" on the host.
[11:05] <nisdec> StarChild_ can u GUARANTEE that even if read-only is activated in those suspicious drivers, that nothing weird will happen?
[11:06] <wingnut2626> so it would be '(username)@(inwt addr)'?
[11:06] <bekks> wingnut2626: Whats "inwt"?
[11:06] <StarChild_> that wasn't my question
[11:06] <wingnut2626> inet
[11:07] <bekks> wingnut2626: Are you talking about some server in the internet?
[11:07] <wingnut2626> no that is my inet address
[11:08] <wingnut2626> thats the ip of my openssh server
[11:08] <wingnut2626> isnt it?
[11:08] <bekks> wingnut2626: No?
[11:08] <bekks> wingnut2626: Where is the ssh server located? Next to you, or somewhere remotely?
[11:08] <nisdec> StarChild_ My question was the answer to ur question
[11:08] <wingnut2626> next to me on a laptop
[11:09] <bekks> wingnut2626: then you can see its ip by using "ifconfig", and in that case it would be ssh user@ip
[11:09] <Jens1981> hi i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 onto my SSD, every time it hangs on the migrationassistant, ive tried 4 times now. how do i get the installation working?
[11:09] <wingnut2626> i get a whole bunch of ip's which one is the one to use?
[11:09] <StarChild_> nvm
[11:10] <ndxtg> wingnut2626: can be in form of 192.168.*.* except 192.168.0.1
[11:11] <nisdec> StarChild_ I would say that there shouldn't be a problem with read-only, but I can't guarantee that and never will
[11:11] <bekks> ndxtg: Not true. Can be everything in 192.168.x.y - including 192.168.0.1
[11:11] <idlemonkey> erx
[11:11] <wingnut2626> yes i havr an inet aadress of 192.168.0.108 but still cannot connect
[11:11] <ndxtg> bekks: usually .0 and .1 are occupied by the router
[11:12] <bekks> ndxtg: Thats not true at all.
[11:12] <|Long|> xchat is sucks balls is there another GUI irc client apps for ubuntu?
[11:12] <bekks> longshorej: konversation, kvirc.
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> |Long|  mind your language
[11:13] <Sino> |Long|: I think Pidgin does IRC, but I really like XChat so I've never tried it
[11:13] <|Long|> bekks, what is the package name do you kow?
[11:14] <bekks> longshorej: I just told you ;)
[11:14] <|Long|> ok let me try,
[11:14] <|Long|> thanks
[11:15] <k1l> |Long|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:15] <nisdec> |Long| XChat-gnome is the best one in my opinion
[11:16] <andai> Hi. Networkmanager says Wireless is turned off by a hardware switch. It's not. I restarted nm and it still says this.
[11:16] <StarChild_> I was more looking for a technical answer what is changed, if any, when read-only mode is activated, what it is that can go wrong. I won't recommend it, but im always curious of knowing the underlying reasons when claims without further explanation is lacking.
[11:16] <andai> It said this once i turned it on, but kept saying it after i turned it back on
[11:16] <andai> once i turned it off*
[11:16] <Wavelight> hello
[11:16] <foraver> Hi
[11:17] <nisdec> StarChild_ Is the driver open-source?
[11:17] <Jens1981> Can anyone Help ;)  i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 onto my SSD, every time it hangs on the migrationassistant, ive tried 4 times now. how do i get the installation working?
[11:17] <LjL> StarChild_: i don't know the reasons, but it appears that due to something that might or might not be related to how Windows itself handles filesystem, writes may still occur even while in read-only mode. sorry, best answer i can provide
[11:18] <andreas_> hallo
[11:18] <ndxtg> andai: Ubuntu Desktop taskbar has a network icon, usually there're 2 check boxes on right click: enable networking AND enable wireless. (i.e. you must turn on the switch AND tick this box, in order to have wifi working)
[11:18] <Zyewni> Noob question: What're the main differences between nano and gedit, aside from the fact that the first is used in the terminal?
[11:18] <ikonia> StarChild_: when you load the file system the file system is "read" and passed through the windows driver
[11:18] <Wavelight> I-ve read the Ubuntu Server 12.04 Help PDF, and there it says that I can manage the server throught a web interface, I-ve read about Zentyal
[11:18] <andreas_> german ?
[11:18] <ikonia> StarChild_: that passing through can manipulate the file system even though it's not a direct "write" to the file system
[11:18] <andai> ndxtg: Enable Wireless is grayed out
[11:18] <bekks> Jens1981: There is no migration assistant on the stock install cds.
[11:18] <Wavelight> in essence the Ubuntu Server can be configured throught the Zentywal interface ?
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> !de| andreas_
[11:19] <ikonia> StarChild_: think of it as an "unclean" mount
[11:19] <bekks> Wavelight: you have to set up all that first.
[11:19] <nisdec> hier andreas_
[11:19] <andreas_> THanks
[11:19] <ikonia> StarChild_: that would be the best way to describe it, but with jounrnaling changing as the ext file system progresses it causes more and more damage/risk
[11:19] <andai> ndxtg: seems to be a common bug. Weird, cause it worked 3 years ago on ubuntu :D
[11:19] <andreas_> bin neu hier
[11:19] <andai> ndxtg: i'll reboot and just use the software switch from now on
[11:19] <ndxtg> andai: does ifconfig show wifi card?
[11:20] <|Long|> wow, so impressed kvirc gui :)
[11:20] <bekks> ndxtg: ifconfig will not show it unless it has an ip, use ifconfig -a instead.
[11:20] <ndxtg> he just left ...
[11:21] <oCean> !de | andreas_
[11:21] <StarChild_> LjL: well, it was the best so far, so thank you!
[11:22] <Wavelight> bekks - thank you
[11:22] <StarChild_> ikonia: thanks
[11:22] <LenovoG470> hello guys, can someone help me out with an undetectable built-in mike in 11.10
[11:22] <bekks> ndxtg: And ifconfig -a show every detected nic, while ifconfig only shows configured nics.
[11:23] <tking> anytime i eject my hard drive, a message saying "Theapplication Unitdy 2D shell has closed unexpectedly"
[11:24] <StarChild_> ikonia: So read-only can protect the files, bit not the filesystem?
[11:24] <tking> any reason why and how I can fix this problem? anytime i eject my hard drive, a message saying "Theapplication Unitdy 2D shell has closed unexpectedly"
[11:24] <ikonia> StarChild_: the file system is the files
[11:25] <rdekx> hi
[11:25] <StarChild_> hmm ok
[11:26] <tking> any reason why and how I can fix this problem? anytime i eject my hard drive, a message saying "Theapplication Unitdy 2D shell has closed unexpectedly"
[11:26] <MeirD> I have a process that shows up in "ps -ef" as "... remote.py ...... id=5".
[11:26] <MeirD> I wanna use grep to lookup "remote.py*id=5" to find it.. is it possible? (I know I can use grep twice, but I wanna do it in one grep command)
[11:27] <tking> !help
[11:28] <tking> !patience
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> tking  use /msg ubottu if you want to test factoids
[11:28] <nisdec> lol
[11:29] <wingnut2626> ok so now i try to connect to the ssh server and get "Error connecting: Connection timed out"
[11:30] <bekks> wingnut2626: Is the ssh service started on that server?
[11:30] <wingnut2626> yes
[11:30] <bekks> wingnut2626: How did you check?
[11:31] <wingnut2626> running sudo service ssh start
[11:31] <|blackshirt|> check your connection
[11:31] <bekks> wingnut2626: And 192.168.0.108 is the IP address of eth0 ?
[11:31] <wingnut2626> prtinted "start: Job is already running: ssh"
[11:31] <qdb> hello. i have downloaded quantal cd and have written it on usb flash drive with unetbootin. it do not load, shows "(initramfs)" promt. how can i fix that ? ( can reinstalling after reformatting help? as said in http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/1742-unetbootin-doesnt-work/ )
[11:32] <wingnut2626> thats the inet address of wlan0
[11:32] <bekks> wingnut2626: On the same computer you want to connect to using ssh?
[11:32] <wingnut2626> yes
[11:33] <qdb> same problem described here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1969716
[11:35] <ikonia> qdb: #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel, you know this, you are asking in #ubuntu+1, please keep your 12.10 questions to #ubuntu+1
[11:37] <oCean> wingnut2626: are you sure you're connecting to the correct ip address? If you were connecting to a machine wich is available, but does not have ssh running, the message would be "port 22: Connection refused"
[11:37] <tking> after using sudo apt-get update i get this error at the end W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/rvm/mplayer/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[11:37] <NimeshNeema> Which wiki software powers ubuntu community help wiki ?
[11:37] <ikonia> tking: that PPA appears to not be available
[11:38] <oCean> NimeshNeema: moinmoin wiki
[11:38] <qdb> ikonia, people write in internet that it happen to different ubuntus
[11:38] <qdb> so i hope somebody knows solution and it is common solution
[11:38] <dr0p> hello, does anyone know any vim plugin that supports executing psql queries from file?
[11:39] <tking> ikonia, please see the complete msgs, just wanting to know if all is cool
[11:39] <tking> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/6Cn0rAYq
[11:40] <ikonia> qdb: you're referencing 12.10 - please keep it to #ubuntu+1
[11:40] <LenovoG470> Any ideas how to make 11.10 detect my built-in mike?
[11:40] <ikonia> tking: looking
[11:40] <qdb> ikonia, but there are more users
[11:40] <ikonia> qdb: the users for 12.10 are in #ubuntu+1
[11:40] <blackshirt> i don't know
[11:41] <ikonia> tking: interesting it appears ppa.launchpad.net precises is totally unavailable to you
[11:41] <tking> ikonia, how do i fix this?
[11:41] <ikonia> tking: if you just do a "sudo apt-get update" do you still get those problems ?
[11:41] <qdb> ikonia, i think i can get common solution for any version, so more users is better
[11:41] <ikonia> tking: it looks like the host is down
[11:41] <tking> ikonia, i got it now from sudo apt get update
[11:42] <ikonia> qdb: sorry, no it's not, the issue is with 12.10 in your situation, please keep it to #ubuntu+1
[11:42] <tking> ikonia, been so for days
[11:42] <ikonia> tking: looks like the host is down
[11:42] <qdb> ikonia, ok, thank you
[11:42] <ikonia> qdb: thanks
[11:43] <ikonia> tking: remove the PPA reference from your sources.list or sources.list.d and re-update
[11:44] <tking> ikonia, how do i do it?
[11:45] <ikonia> tking: use the software sources tool if you are not confident
[11:45] <tking> i dont know anything abt linux, sorry can u just tell me d code to type in terminal?
[11:46] <k1l> tking: use ppa-purge. it removes the ppa pakages and the repos
[11:47] <tking> k1l, it says ppa-purge not installed... do you want to install it?
[11:47] <oCean> k1l, tking ppa-purge is not just to disable, so be careful to use that option
[11:48] <ikonia> tking: if you're very new to linux, you should really consider not using PPA's
[11:48] <tking> ikonia, one today makes 1 week i am using ubuntu
[11:50] <tking> ikonia, i always remove it first 3 days for the past 3yrs i have used it several times, but get stock and remove it... now i wanna face it... The most important thing is to never stop asking "Albert Einstein"
[11:52] <tking> ikonia anyway, what do u think is best alternative to remove the PPA reference source list or list.d
[11:53] <bekks> tking: Remove all PPA references.
[11:55] <k1l> oCean: right. ppa-purge removes the ppa pakets too and installs the original pakets instead. i think that is the best way for unexperienced users and i think i made it clear.
[11:56] <nisdec> Someone knows a workaround for those annoying colord crashes?
[11:57] <tking> bekks whats d command line to be typed
[11:57] <tking> ?
[11:57] <_raven> do you have some experience with linux on RASPBERRY PI?
[11:58] <oCean> _raven: try #ubuntu-offtopic, this is for technical ubuntu issues only
[11:58] <bekks> tking: k1l already told you. Use ppa-purge.
[11:58] <k1l> _raven: try #ubuntu-arm for arm related issues
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> tking  read this http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[12:01] <LenovoG470> any idea how to make 11.10 detect my built-in microphone? Thanks
[12:03] <NewWorld> LenovoG470:  Try selecting it in `alsamixer`
[12:03] <Mousey> Hello
[12:04] <LenovoG470> NewWorld: but it was not listed in my Alsamixer
[12:05] <tking> bekks k1l i have done sudo ppa-purge ppa: WHAT DO I PUT HERE (from this pastebin http://pastebin.com/6Cn0rAYq )
[12:05] <NewWorld> LenovoG470:  As in in `alsamixer` choose Capture (F4) and use Up/Dn for Input Source to select which mic to use
[12:07] <Guest28259> Hi
[12:07] <LenovoG470> NewWorld, my capture only have Capture and Analog mike boost
[12:08] <NewWorld> LenovoG470:  I'm not sure then, sorry
[12:08] <Guest28259> Hi
[12:09] <LenovoG470> NewWorld, thanks
[12:09] <oCean> Guest28259: welcome to #ubuntu, do you have a technical support question?
[12:09] <tking> k1l, i mean now am using the sudo ppa-purge command but don't know the actual PPA to be removed
[12:12] <tking> MonkeyDust, k1l i have done sudo ppa-purge ppa: WHAT DO I PUT HERE (from this pastebin http://pastebin.com/6Cn0rAYq )
[12:12] <bekks> tking: Please dont SHOUT at us that often.
[12:13] <tking> sorry
[12:17] <LenovoG470> which driver to choose in additional drivers, ATI drivers or ATI post-release drivers? Thanks
[12:17] <CaBa> hi
[12:18] <CaBa> i have a problem with gdm i think. when i try to log in with a user for the first time (users are provided via ldap) then gdm hangs
[12:18] <CaBa> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=LTsQ7DTN
[12:19] <phoenix_> Ever heard of internet on wlan0 stopping untill you disconnect and reconnect to a network? other devices keep working
[12:19] <phoenix_> Ever heard of internet on wlan0 stopping untill you disconnect and reconnect to a network? other devices keep working
[12:33] <imanc> is there a version of ubuntu that comes shipped with python2.7.1 or later?
[12:34] <CaBa> anyone on the gdm issue?
[12:35] <oCean> !info python
[12:35] <oCean> imanc: current LTS version (12.04) uses ^^
[12:36] <lebedev> At what point Ubuntu uses /etc/default/keyboard? Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems this file used by unity.
[12:36] <imanc> oCean: wooop!
[12:40] <shuai> 怎么没讨论的？
[12:40] <LjL> !cn | shuai
[12:41] <alo21> could someone tells me what skills should I have to fix bugs?
[12:41] <dare> first catch the bug
[12:42] <elky> alo21, #ubuntu-bugs is a good place to ask about helping with bugs. even if you can't fix them, you can still triage them or test stuff
[12:43] <alo21> elky: I have asked there yet... but nobody answer
[12:43] <elky> Patience is one of the skills you need ;)
[12:45] <LenovoG470> any one, how to detect my built-in mic, it was not shown in both alsamixer and the gui alsa controller. Thanksd
[12:45] <SkippersBoss> caba, not according to your paste bin info
[12:48] <bobweaver> Is there any way to mix audio from the cli like bands and channel's   example  somecommand -band +16db -channel 22k
[12:49] <morsnowski> !ot
[12:51] <oCean> bobweaver: (alsa) amixer can do things like  amixer sset Master toggle 50%
[12:52] <SkippersBoss> caba, Firstly i am not an expert but hunting on the web leads me to believe it is an ownership issue of some sorts
[12:53] <CaBa> SkippersBoss: hm. i'm considering to use lightdm instead, where this issue does not occur, but i dont seem to find how one can make lightdm remember the WM a user chose, just as all other DMs do
[12:54] <kapz> I dual boot win7 with ubuntu 12.04...how can I copy the multiple symlinked folder(windows) within ubuntu to windows partition?
[12:55] <bekks> kapz: No.
[12:55] <SkippersBoss> CaBa,  some one else in this channel will know the answer to that
[12:55] <SkippersBoss> :-)
[12:55] <bekks> kapz: Windows does not know anything about symlinks and non-windows permissions.
[12:58] <crond> hmm, the unity panel is set to autohide, but it's just ...stuck.  Not autohiding.  Anyone now how to fix that, apart from a logout/login?
[12:59] <fAz4> $top reports  console-kit-daemon has swapped 2G !!!?
[12:59] <bekks> fAz4: top cant report that at all.
[12:59] <Ycarene> I have an odd problem I don't know if it's an ubuntu problem or a mediatomb problem but the issue is that I cannot get mediatomb to bind to the network interface if started from an init script, but it will if it's started from a user.
[12:59] <bekks> fAz4: Provide a pastebin please to show that.
[12:59] <fAz4> bekks: why ?
[13:00] <bekks> fAz4: Because top does not show which app has swapped how much into swap currently.
[13:00] <oCean> bekks: sure, you can add fields
[13:00] <CaBa> anyone on how to make lightdm remember the users WM choice?
[13:00] <fAz4> bekks: in top -> O then p
[13:01] <kapz> wel bekks, am trying to cp -a C drive to new ssd inhstalls and linux complains that the folder Documents and Settingd has multiple symlinks and that it cannot copy it
[13:02] <bekks> fAz4: And whats the amount of "used" in the 4th line?
[13:02] <bekks> (Swap summary)
[13:02] <fAz4> bekks: 2.0g
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> CaBa  it automatically remembers your last choice and if it doesnt, you can ask here to try and find out why
[13:07] <ethical> hlw guys
[13:07] <CaBa> MonkeyDust: well it doesn't
[13:07] <CaBa> MonkeyDust: thats what i just asked
[13:07] <CaBa> MonkeyDust: it always defaults to "ubuntu", i.e. unity, even if i used xfce, kde, gnome or whatever before
[13:08] <ethical> hey guys... listen
[13:08] <ethical> i've a problem..
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> ethical  in 1 line please
[13:09] <CaBa> MonkeyDust: any idea where lightdm should store the information about the environment used last?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> CaBa  no, never had that issue myself
[13:09] <ethical> MonkeyDust: whenever someone enters in any irc channel  it shows something like . hisname+ipaddress+domain from where he cam ..
[13:09] <ethical> is it safe to chat here
[13:10] <CaBa> MonkeyDust: is there a channel dedicated to lightdm?
[13:10] <CaBa> MonkeyDust: and are you absolutely sure that for you it remembers the choice?
[13:10] <oCean> ethical: for support/discussion on using the Freenode network, please /join #freenode
[13:10] <ethical> ocean: i'm already there  :)
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> CaBa  no, wait a bit longer, maybe someone here knows
[13:12] <oCean> ethical: no you are not
[13:12] <oCean> ethical: you are connected to the freenode network, in channel #ubuntu
[13:12] <ethical> in channel #ubuntu-server
[13:12] <serdotlin> anyone know how take screenshot of lightdm login screen?
[13:13] <ethical> by d way .. dats not answer to my ques my friend @ oCean . ..
[13:13] <oCean> ethical: no, not -server you are in #ubuntu
[13:13] <ethical> oCean : o really :0
[13:13] <ethical> ooops
[13:13] <oCean> ethical: ok, fine. This channel is for technical Ubuntu issues only. Again, if you wish to discuss using the Freenode network (and if it is secure etc) /join #freenode channel and ask there
[13:13] <ethical> anyways..      .. my mistake :P
[13:14] <ethical> oCean : thank you sir , i would love to do that ..
[13:19] <Krolli> i want to use ubuntu but im on windows right now.  what will i have to be aware of when switching over to ubuntu?
[13:19] <Krolli> from windows to ubuntu as my primary os
[13:20] <oCean> Krolli: I'd recommend running a dualboot configuration for a while, just to discover what it is like to be using Linux
[13:20] <Krolli> I see...
[13:20] <oCean> !dualboot | Krolli
[13:20] <Krolli> i mostly use only browser and simple programs anyway
[13:21] <Krolli> problem is i have a microsoft wireless keyboard and ive heard that linux isnt good for drivers
[13:21] <CaBa> anyone on the lightdm issue?
[13:21] <oCean> Krolli: ok, while they're trying to catch up, Linux isn't really good running games
[13:21] <Krolli> i cant imagine microsoft making a driver for linux
[13:22] <bekks> Krolli: Actually they already did.
[13:22] <SkippersBoss> Kolli, most hardware works out of the box on linux
[13:22] <oCean> Krolli: lots of wireless stuff just works out of the box. It's the specific keys that might not work
[13:22] <Krolli> :s
[13:22] <oCean> it's true! :)
[13:22] <Krolli> you mean special keys
[13:22] <oCean> those, yes
[13:22] <oCean> and you probably mean cordless
[13:23] <oCean> I'm not sure what the difference is, actually.. hehe
[13:23] <Krolli> well its name is "Wireless Comfort Desktop 5000"
[13:23] <Krolli> so no i didnt
[13:23] <bekks> Thats not a wifi stuff, but a cordless stuff.
[13:24] <Krolli> its wireless
[13:24] <CaBa> Krolli: microsoft contributed to the samba project
[13:24] <CaBa> i.e. submitted code
[13:24] <LenovoG470> anyone, how to make 11.10 see my built-in mic? Thanks
[13:24] <bekks> Krolli: So it has its own IP then, and it uses the Ethernet stack?
[13:24] <Krolli> it is wireless, not wifi
[13:25] <Krolli> wireless != wifi
[13:25] <bekks> Krolli: And whats the difference between wireless and cordless to you?
[13:25] <oCean> I know I started, but actually I don't think this discussion really matters for what Krolli is asking
[13:28] <newbie|2> beidgui recognizes my card reader, but comes back with an error message that leads me to an explanation - there are two daemons that conflict with the mozilla plugin and with one another.  How do i Fix that?
[13:28] <newbie|2> when I try to read the data on my ID card
[13:31] <OerHeks> newbie|2, EID ?
[13:32] <newbie|2> yes
[13:32] <newbie|2> OerHeks: Yes
[13:32] <newbie|2> Belgian ID card
[13:32] <inashdeen> hi there, I want to create a deb package for a custom keyboard layout i have. i read documentation from here, http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html , but it seems that it is building a deb from source. I dont want to build from source, i just want the deb to cd my "jw" file tu /usr/share/x11/xkb/symbols as well as some postcont to add configuration to /usr/share/x11/xkb/rules/exdev.xml . can someon
[13:33] <OerHeks> newbie|2, there is a howto > http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/Eid but for problem solving i suggest join #ubuntu-nl
[13:34] <bobweaver> inashdeen,  look at post/preinst  scripts
[13:34] <bobweaver> there in the debian/ folder
[13:34] <newbie|2> OerHeks: I don't speak Dutch
[13:34] <CaBa> MonkeyDust: ah, it seems that lightdm actually *does* remember the choice, it just doesn't visualize it like gdm does. the icon of the current choice still shows the ubuntu desktop, even though its going to start kde or whatever else
[13:34] <bobweaver> inashdeen,  also read the debian new maintianers guide It is Great !
[13:35] <newbie|2> OerHeks: English or French and, if I really need to, a little Italian
[13:35] <cipher__> can anyone help me get my nvidia gpu working?
[13:35] <cipher__> currently only my integrated sandybridge will run
[13:37] <Arash> hello :-)
[13:38] <bekks> cipher__: Did you disable the integrated grapics and enable the external card in the BIOS?
[13:41] <cipher__> bekks: my bios doesn't have any support for that. it is a optimus machine
[13:42] <Eagleman> dhclient eth1 isnt doing anything on ubuntu
[13:42] <OerHeks> cipher__, look at bumblebee > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee and the #bumblebee irc channel here on freenode, those guys are up2date
[13:43] <bekks> cipher__: Then you have to use bumblebee e.g. to switch the active card.
[13:45] <SIMSU> hello
[13:45] <cipher__> beeks: yeah i've been trying to get it working
[13:45] <SIMSU> can someone help me
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> SIMSU  if you're sweet
[13:46] <Arash> Im noob :D
[13:46] <SIMSU> i am sweet
[13:46] <Arash> how can I learn ubuntu ?
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> Arash  by using it, like we all did
[13:46] <Arash> simsu how can I help :D
[13:46] <chu> Arash: Just keep using it.
[13:46] <SIMSU> i installed nvidia driver on my ubuntu after i reboot i can't log in
[13:46] <Arash> these 2 are irrelevant you are using the wrong password while logging in
[13:46] <SIMSU> it shows cui charecter user interface
[13:47] <Fuchs> SIMSU: how did you install it?
[13:47] <cipher__> bekks: i purged bumblebee, all the config files, the black lists, and reinstalled it. now it will start, but it does not display anything: cipher@panodora:~$ sudo optirun glxspheres  .. Polygons in scene: 62464
[13:47] <cipher__> same with my user id
[13:47] <SIMSU> by using harsware drivers software
[13:48] <Eagleman> dhclient eth1 isnt doing anything on ubuntu
[13:49] <Fuchs> SIMSU: okay, to get your graphical interface back, you should be able to do a   sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia.notworking     in the terminal.  After that please do a   sudo nvidia-bug-report.sh   and then a reboot.  You should have your graphical user interface back (wihtout the nvidia drivers, though) and a bug report file, which can help us to find the issue.
[13:50] <SIMSU> hey fuchs how do i get the terminal if ican't log in
[13:50] <SIMSU> can i use a live cd
[13:50] <SIMSU> i am now using a live cd
[13:50] <Fuchs> SIMSU: oh, I assumed you have a terminal by your descriptions
[13:50] <SIMSU> how can is olve this problem using live cd ?
[13:50] <cipher__> bekks, in /etc/bumblebee.conf i forced the driver to nvidia, here is the outut when trying to run it now: http://pastie.org/4142847
[13:51] <cipher__> or anyone
[13:51] <Fuchs> SIMSU: if you are on a live CD, you can mount your / directory and rename the xorg.conf file. However, this will make things harder to debug, since you can't create a good nvidia bug report, not even by chrooting (which is a pain anyway)
[13:51] <uskerine> troff: fatal error: can't find macro file ms
[13:51] <uskerine> where is "ms" macro set in ubuntu? (for groff)
[13:51] <cipher__> I recall i had to change something in my x.org conf file i believe, it originally get it wokring
[13:52] <cipher__> bekks, i assume you follow since you're not saying otherwise?
[13:53] <bekks> cipher__: I dont have an optimus chipset so I cant help you on that issue.
[13:53] <cipher__> and you wait until now to tell me this :(
[13:53] <SIMSU> hey fuchs the xorg.conf file in folder x11 has the name xorg.conf.failsafe
[13:53] <Eagleman> Why isnt dhclient getting an ip address?
[13:54] <Fuchs> SIMSU: that's strange. Can you get a copy of the  /var/log/Xorg.0.log*  files and put them in a pastebin?
[13:54] <bekks> Eagleman: Because of a non-connected cable, no DHCP offer, etc.
[13:54] <xiangjianfeng> hello.everyone
[13:55] <SIMSU> it's empty
[13:55] <luis_> hola
[13:56] <SIMSU> @ fuchs it's empty
[13:56] <Fuchs> SIMSU: all of them?
[13:56] <Fuchs> SIMSU: if so, something appears to be broken in a rather bad way.  What driver did you use before, and did you have a graphical interface with it?
[13:57] <Fuchs> SIMSU: because from a live cd you could, in theory, chroot into your installed system and install/uninstall drivers as needed.
[13:57] <SIMSU> no xorg.0.log.old is not empty
[13:58] <SIMSU> should i paste the content of the file here ?
[13:59] <pritojs> hey i'm having problems updating 12.05
[13:59] <pritojs> *12.04
[14:00] <SkippersBoss> !pastebin ! SIMSU
[14:00] <Eagleman> bekks could it also be that it is searching in the wrong broadcast?
[14:00] <pritojs> it gets stuck on gettin souces
[14:00] <SIMSU>  X.Org X Server 1.7.6 Release Date: 2010-03-17 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-29-server i686 Ubuntu Current Operating System: Linux simsu-desktop 2.6.32-39-generic #86-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 13 21:47:32 UTC 2012 i686 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-39-generic root=UUID=4fa690bf-4412-4fa1-b351-886042d21d70 ro quiet splash nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option=1024x768-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap Build Date: 25 F
[14:00] <SkippersBoss> Simsu use a service like pastebin
[14:01] <pritojs> 5% [64 Sources 0 B/934 kB 0%] [63 Sources 0 B/7,120 B 0%]
[14:01] <bekks> Eagleman: Then the cable isnt connected to the correct network :)
[14:01] <pritojs> the place where it is 64 it went on to 5000
[14:01] <pritojs> before i Ctrl+C'ed it
[14:02] <luis_> can anybody help me?
[14:02] <Eagleman> bekks i've got a bit of a weird configuration, it needs to recieve a WAN IP Address from a bridged eth1 device ( the wan port on my router )
[14:03] <zkosty> can I ask installation questions here?
[14:03] <bekks> Eagleman: Unless the ISP doesnt support more than one IP on your ide that wont work.
[14:04] <Eagleman> I did pull an extra WAN address my using macvlan
[14:05] <shaneo> hi guys what would cause winebrowser to be the default application lanucher. When I open a terminal or launch xbmc it uses wine browser to load the app
[14:06] <ring0_> ?
[14:06] <adarax> hi everyone
[14:06] <SIMSU> @fuchs http://pastebin.com/G21V77RS
[14:06] <luis_> hi
[14:06] <adarax> i wanna ask something..how can i revive ubuntu 10.10?
[14:06] <adarax> updates and stuff
[14:07] <cipher__> time travel?
[14:07] <ring0_> 12.04..
[14:07] <adarax> :D time travel sounds good :P
[14:07] <zkosty> ok I'll just try: I want to install a 64bit version. My CPU is an Intel. The installation file I am downloading is called something like .....AMD64 - is that OK?
[14:07] <luis_> I installed ubuntu in all my PC, but in one of them, ubuntu doesn't work fine
[14:08] <Eagleman> bekks  did pull an extra WAN address my using macvlan so i have no idea what is going wrong now
[14:08] <luis_> the hardware of this PC is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1057517/
[14:09] <Fuchs> SIMSU: it appears that it is using the nouveau driver in this log, not the nvidia one. Do you have other logs around?
[14:12] <SIMSU> yes
[14:13] <Fuchs> pastebin them as well, please.
[14:15] <SIMSU> http://pastebin.com/kM8huB68
[14:16] <tourian> what causes the internal speaker to beep after every keypress
[14:19] <Fuchs> SIMSU: that as well is with nouveau. Can you see whether you have one using nvidia in it?
[14:20] <SIMSU> how do i find it
[14:21] <Fuchs> grep through them for nvidia or non-nouveau
[14:22] <simsu> hey fuchs how can i know if it's nvidia log ?
[14:22] <Fuchs> [16:22:13] <Fuchs> grep through them for nvidia or non-nouveau
[14:23] <Fuchs> or remove the failsave file, reboot into your real system, let it fail. That should create a new one.
[14:23] <simsu> ok bye fuchs
[14:28] <MikeHunted> Hey guys, I am a VERY experienced linux usser, but just ran into something I have never seen in my 12+ years of using Linux.  Installed on a desktop I had recently acquired, grub is out of range for the monitor, therefore I cannot see it. It does load fine, if I just hit enter when the creen shuts off, the kernel loads.  If I press down arrow a bunch of times, then enter, it will load windows.
[14:28] <MikeHunted> I wasnt aware grub even had display settings.  How can I set it for my monitor so it will be in range?
[14:29] <ikonia> MikeHunted: it's the framebuffer resolution detection
[14:29] <AndIrc___> Hi guys, just wanted to thank you again, nomodeset sorted my display issues and staggeringly didn't break it on the laptop with nvidia drivers either
[14:29] <AndIrc___> hmm, username's not set on Android. derp.
[14:29] <simsu> hey i'm back
[14:30] <MikeHunted> ikonia: uhh, framebuffer, at least kernel framebuffer, would load AFTER grub, everything works fine after I make the slection to actually load linux
[14:30] <simsu> hey fuchs there is now 6 Xorg.log files
[14:30] <KornKage2> MikeHunted i had that problem like 10 years ago when i installed redhat on a faulty hdd pentium 1 mmx
[14:30] <Fuchs> simsu: paste all of them, maybe?
[14:30] <MikeHunted> KornKage2: it has nothing to do with hardware being faulty
[14:30] <KornKage2> and i am pretty much a linu x naab
[14:30] <ikonia> it's a very old problem
[14:30] <ikonia> I'm surprised it's only just appeared
[14:30] <simsu> k
[14:30] <KornKage2> ikonia you talk like a pokemon trainer :)
[14:30] <MikeHunted> Well, this is a different LCD screen
[14:31] <ikonia> KornKage2: what ?
[14:31] <MikeHunted> As I already asked you, what framebuffer are you talking about?  The framebuffer for the linux kernel isnt even loaded at that point.
[14:32] <ikonia> MikeHunted: there is one built into the stage2 (I think it's stage 2 in grub 2 - I'm not sure as I've not seen it since early grub1 revisions)
[14:32] <ikonia> MikeHunted: cut down part of the display
[14:32] <bluenemo> hi guys, i'm currently remastering the 12.04 .iso, a short question (as i didnt do this since 10.04), when i install packages in the chroot (for example emacs), i'm pretty sure that emacs would be included in an installation using the rusulting images's installer. what i've forgotten is if i for example change the desktop wallpaper, will those changes become default for the user created by the installer?
[14:32] <ikonia> MikeHunted: I'm assuming (possibly wrongly) that it's also in grub2  (I'm assuming also you are using a recent version of ubuntu hence grub2)
[14:32] <MikeHunted> And if grub really uses a frame buffer (I actually use lilo for myself, Im only putting ubuntu on this because it is not for me, its for a neighbor) could you direct me to something about it?
[14:33] <MikeHunted> yes, grub2
[14:33] <ikonia> MikeHunted: I've not looked at it for many many years
[14:33] <simsu> @fuchs http://pastebin.com/1veWknfx
[14:33] <Mandalord> MikeHunted: how about Grub customizer? it has the resolution option for grub
[14:33] <ikonia> MikeHunted: I've not seen that problem for a long long time, I'm not even sure how it would be laid out in grub2 compared to the older grub1 stuff
[14:33] <MikeHunted> I run lilo still on my arch and exherbo installs.  Always prefered it
[14:33] <mz|`> bluenemo: change the default settings or replace the default wallpaper included in UBuntu by yours
[14:33] <MikeHunted> Mandalord: whats that some? some gui tool?
[14:33] <ikonia> Mandalord: that's interesting so you can actually specify a resolution as part of the grub configuration ?
[14:34] <MikeHunted> I remember seeing it
[14:34] <MikeHunted> This was in grub1 though
[14:34] <Fuchs> simsu: that's unfortunately nouveau again. Can you generate a new configuration file with  sudo nvidia-xconfig  on your real system?
[14:34] <Fuchs> simsu: and then retry?
[14:34] <ikonia> MikeHunted: it's reasonable go guess the grub2 syntax will be the same, although no guarentee of course
[14:34] <Mandalord> MikeHunted: yeah, GUI tools :D
[14:35] <MikeHunted> Alright, I will go try it out. Im sure I can fix it regardless, just wanted to see if anyone had any ideas
[14:36] <ikonia> MikeHunted: it used to be an old old problem, not seen it for years, you are the first person in a long time
[14:36] <Mandalord> ikonia: never try the option for display before, but it says you can change even the background image!!!
[14:36] <simsu> fuchs: why do u want this log files
[14:36] <MikeHunted> thanks guys.  First time in years someone actually has answered a question of mine in this channel. All my other questions in the last 5 years have been far too complex for people here it seems
[14:36] <ikonia> Mandalord: yeah the background image is old stuff, just never seen the resolution in the config file before
[14:36] <ikonia> MikeHunted: either that or you couldn't understand the complex responses.
[14:36] <MikeHunted> ikonia: uhh no
[14:37] <Fuchs> simsu: because without them it's hard to say what causes the problem
[14:37] <ikonia> MikeHunted: well, you seemed to want to suggest you where above the level of the people in the channel, I'm just suggesting you're not
[14:37] <MikeHunted> Im actually a sys admin, I do this for a living.  NO ONE would reply, regarding issues with raid, and other things
[14:37] <ikonia> MikeHunted: wow - a sysadmin, how impressive
[14:37] <simsu> fuchs: what is nouveau ?
[14:37] <MikeHunted> ikonia: keep trolling.  Bye
[14:37] <ikonia> bye
[14:37] <Fuchs> simsu: an alternative driver for nvidia hardware, which is in use currently on your system
[14:38] <simsu> yeah so u can't find out the problem using nouveau ?
[14:38] <simsu> fuchs: maybe i installed nouveau by mistake
[14:39] <Fuchs> simsu: nouveau is installed by default
[14:39] <simsu> fuchs :can you find out the problem using nouveau  log ?
[14:40] <Fuchs> simsu: well, with nouveau the problem is that it doesn't find any valid modes for your monitor
[14:41] <bluenemo> mz|`, sorry i'm not sure if you got my question correctly. i want to remaster the iso. i want to change two things: install emacs and change wallpaper (just examples). i will then burn the new iso to a cd and boot a computer with it. i will then hit the installer to install to this computer. after rebooting, will emacs already be available and the wallpaper set?
[14:41] <Fuchs> simsu: and it then doesn't start up the graphical interface due to no valid screens found
[14:41] <Mrokii> Hello. Is there a way to speed up the time after which that unity-window appears? I mean the window where one enters filenames and such. The problem is that it always takes a noticeable amount of time, until that window opens up, so it is just tiresome (and pretty useless) to use, imho.
[14:41] <Fuchs> simsu: what kind of monitor is this, and how is it connected?
[14:41] <ominomi> Hello, is there a way to get the Unity launcher to dodge windows in 12.04 like it did in 11.10?
[14:42] <mz|`> bluenemo: if you include the packages as 'should be installed by default' in the ISO, yes
[14:42] <simsu> fuchs: it's a acer X163WL monitor
[14:42] <mz|`> if it is not written anywhere in the ISO, it won't be installed by default
[14:42] <mz|`> the packages presence is not sufficient
[14:43] <simsu> fuchs: also it shows acer no or unsupported wmi interface unable to load
[14:43] <Mandalord> ikonia: ikonia, just think of the problem of MikeHunter. In the old type CRT monitor, there is a menu for adjust the monitor just by pushing some buttons on the monitor
[14:43] <ikonia> Mandalord: yes
[14:43] <Fuchs> simsu: and how is that monitor connected? Any adapters which might cause the EDID to be unreadable?
[14:44] <mz|`> bluenemo: how do you 'remaster' your iso ? with remastersys ?
[14:44] <Mandalord> ikonia: may it be the solution for his problem? not the "resolution option" (never think there is resolution option for grub before)
[14:44] <bluenemo> mz|`, do you think that also applies to customizations based on normal files? (i do it by hand - opening the iso, extracting contents... i have a LOT of stuff to remaster ;)
[14:45] <bluenemo> ah no i remember! it was all about getting it into /etc/skel!
[14:45] <simsu> fuchs: no problem with the adapter
[14:45] <mz|`> yes
[14:45] <Fuchs> simsu: is there one?
[14:45] <ikonia> Mandalord: you where probably right in the first occasion about forcing the resolution within the grub config
[14:45] <Fuchs> (an adapter)
[14:45] <bluenemo> so you boot any cd, customize it like you want (with guys and so on), copy the complete home dir and put it into skel. then its all done. well, thx mz|` :)
[14:45] <tking> i noticed my computer doesn't go to lock screen if i leave it for hours
[14:46] <mz|`> you welcome bluenemo ( see you on the dff channel ;) )
[14:46] <Mrokii> ominomi: Maybe this could help, though I never tried it: http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-12-04-get-back-unity-launcher-dodge-windows-feature
[14:46] <HelloWorld321> To set up services that you'd just like always on, what's the best way to launch them?  Startup cron job? /etc/init.d?   Startup Applications?  .bashrc?
[14:47] <ominomi> Mrokii: Interesting, will check it out. Thanks, mate!
[14:47] <simsu> fuchs: yes
[14:48] <Fuchs> simsu: then probably the EDID, where the monitor gives the driver information on what modes it supports, can't be read due to it.
[14:48] <Fuchs> simsu: please try it without the adapter if possible. Else you have to specify vaild modes via modelines, as else the driver can't know what modes the monitor supports.
[14:48] <Fuchs> simsu: nvidia falls back to default modes in this case, but you are currently using nouveau, not nvidia, and I don't know what it does in this case. According to your log: it fails.
[14:48] <simsu> fuchs: ok
[14:48] <simsu> bye
[14:49] <Mrokii> ominomi: yw. A slightly better description (including how to remove it if necessary) is found here: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-get-dodge-windows-and-minimize.html
[14:49] <simsu> fuchs:let me restart
[14:49] <fr-z> Hi all. Does anyone knows when the Google apps linux Client will be released?
[14:50] <polygonz> am i banned
[14:50] <polygonz> no
[14:50] <morsnowski> aparently not
[14:53] <compdoc> fr-z, which google app needs a linux client?
[14:54] <TechnoGeek> fr-z google app client or engine ?
[14:54] <fr-z> compdoc i meant google drive. When will a client be available?
[14:55] <TechnoGeek> check out https://developers.google.com/appengine/downloads n roll your own ?
[14:59] <simsu> hey fuchs iam back
[15:00] <simsu> fuchs: didn't work
[15:00] <Fuchs> simsu: can I see a log file of it without the adapter, to check whether it still doesn't find any valid modes?
[15:01] <erkules> moin, does upstart send the output from the programms to syslog autmatically?
[15:01] <simsu> duchs: it's a vga adapter
[15:01] <simsu> fuchs: it's avga adapter
[15:01] <simsu> fuchs: it's a vga adapter
[15:01] <Fuchs> simsu: that doesn't answer my question, unfortunately
[15:02] <Fuchs> and I'll be off for a bit now, but if you can provide a log file, maybe someone else can help :)
[15:03] <simsu> fuchs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1057605/
[15:03] <simsu> thanks for your help fuchs
[15:06] <fr-z> TechnoGeek i dont know how to program in it :(
[15:09] <kk_> any one how to get used ports on remote computer
[15:10] <bekks> kk_: Do you have ssh access?
[15:10] <kk_> no
[15:10] <psusi> kk_, then you don't
[15:11] <kk_> bekks: we just know the ip.
[15:11] <kk_> psusi: we just mhow the ip
[15:11] <bastidrazor> kk_: take a look at 'nmap'
[15:12] <TechnoGeek> fr-z ok then just loginto your normal google accout and goto here you can upload and download your stuff ok to and from drive ? why an app ?   https://drive.google.com/#home
[15:14] <cipher__> is there anyway for me to get nvidia-xconfig installed?
[15:14] <induz> is there a s/w like tivion specifically for asian Tv chaneels
[15:15] <kk_> how to use nc?
[15:15] <bekks> kk_: nc wont help you on your issue.
[15:16] <paste> 我在XUBUNTU下硬盘都变成了可移动设备
[15:16] <Arash> guys what do you think about MIcrosoft Surface ?
[15:17] <Mandalord> !cn | paste
[15:17] <crankharder> just installed 12.04 desktop.  none of my apps have a a file/edit/view, etc menu at the top
[15:17] <crankharder> firefox/terminal... nothing. how can i make that show up?
[15:17] <Arash> go to Dash Home
[15:17] <Arash> Run the program
[15:17] <Arash> then right click on Its icon on launcher
[15:18] <Arash> and click lock to launcher
[15:18] <Zyewni> Evening all. How do I connect Ubuntu 12.04 to the existing Windows 7 workgroup on my home network?
[15:18] <dr_willis> Zyewni:  you mean see the windows 'shares' ? or how by 'connect'
[15:18] <crankharder> Arash: that for me? if so, i did that, still nothing
[15:18] <crankharder> closed and restarted said app too
[15:18] <Arash> crankharder yes
[15:18] <cipher__> the package nvidia-xcofig seems to have been depreciated or something, does anyone know how to install it?
[15:19] <inashdeen> hi there, i have a bit of problem here. when i run a command with a string like "house" it has no problem on bash. but why when i want to add a text like "house <i press enter here> " . the outptut give me "awk: line 2: runaway string constant hou..."   how do fix it?
[15:19] <crankharder> ffx is part of the default launcher, and it doesn't have a menu
[15:19] <Zyewni> dr_willis I want to be able to access my wife's shared folders and the shared printer we have connected to her PC running Windows 7.
[15:19] <Zyewni> Ideally I'd like her to be able to access shared folders on my Linux partition
[15:19] <zykotick9> crankharder: are you looking for the file/edit in the right place?  top left of screen, i believe you need to mouse over it for them to show up.
[15:20] <Arash> Zyewni you gotta run FTP
[15:20] <Arash> to share files/folders
[15:20] <crankharder> zykotick9: oh. ty
[15:20] <bekks> Arash: Thats not true.
[15:20] <dr_willis> Zyewni:  in the file manager, there is a connect to server.. feature  to see the windows network. or you can enter the url to the share directly. (ctrl -l to show address entry field) and enter  smb://server.name.or.ipnumber/sharename
[15:20] <Zyewni> I was going to say that doesn't sound right
[15:20] <Arash> @bekks , hmmm how is it possible to have file sharing with windows then ?
[15:20] <bekks> Arash: By using samba, e.g.
[15:21] <Mandalord> Zyewni: Samba
[15:21] <bekks> And depending on the Windows 7 Edition, he can even use NFS.
[15:21] <Zyewni> dr_willis : trying that now
[15:21] <Arash> Downloading samba ;)
[15:21] <dr_willis> Samba creates shares on the linux box. for windows to connect toll
[15:21] <Zyewni> Where's file manager? I'm a noob
[15:21] <bekks> Samba provides a client to connect to windows shares, too.
[15:21] <dr_willis> samba has been the defacto way to share for years.
[15:21] <Arash> !samba
[15:22] <dr_willis> Zyewni:  anytime you are looking at your files./homedir/otherstuff.. you are most likely using the nautilus file manager
[15:22] <Arash> interesting :-/
[15:22] <Arash> what about remote access ?
[15:22] <dr_willis> ftp is basically dead. :)and should be killed off asap.
[15:22] <Arash> can anyone using win7 remote desktop to ubuntu ?
[15:22] <bekks> Sure.
[15:22] <zykotick9> FTP must die!!!
[15:23] <Arash> @bekks how ?
[15:23] <bekks> Arash: Everyone who install an rdp client can do that.
[15:23] <dr_willis> Arash:  several ways, vnc,  freenx
[15:23] <Mandalord> dr_willis: why? love ftp all my life...
[15:23] <Zyewni> Ok, so just open a folder and go the the menu bar?
[15:23] <bekks> dr_willis: Or just plain RDP.
[15:23] <dr_willis> Mandalord:  its a dinasoure
[15:23] <Arash> do I have any of those by default ?
[15:23] <dr_willis> Zyewni:  yes
[15:23] <zykotick9> Mandalord: for details you can see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[15:23] <bekks> Arash: Even if not, you can install an RDP client.
[15:24] <Arash> I have an RDP client
[15:24] <Zyewni> Ok, found it
[15:24] <Arash> the question is If I get a
[15:24] <Arash> an* ubuntu VPS
[15:24] <Arash> can I remote connect to It ?
[15:24] <bekks> Arash: No.
[15:24] <Arash> using Remmina for example ?
[15:24] <Zyewni> What port?
[15:24] <Arash> then how can I control It ? only via ssh ?
[15:24] <dr_willis> Arash:  a vps may or may not have an actual desktop. Use ssh to get a remote command line
[15:24] <bekks> Arash: thats more than enough for a VPS.
[15:24] <Arash> hmmm then run VNC ?
[15:25] <dr_willis> you can run specific apps remnotely via ssh and have them appear locally also
[15:25] <bekks> Arash: You shouldnt run an X server on a VPS for security reasons.
[15:25] <Arash> hmmm what security reasons ?
[15:25] <Arash> btw what is a X server ?
[15:25] <Zyewni> dr_willis : What do I put in the port, type, and folder fields?
[15:26] <dr_willis> now is the time for some 'linux fundamentals' guides.. )
[15:26] <bekks> Arash: The X server is that part of software that actually gives you the GUI where gnome, kde or whatever runs in.
[15:26] <bekks> dr_willis: ack :)
[15:26] <dr_willis> Zyewni:  select samba as the type of server to connect to,.
[15:26] <Arash> ok I get It :)
[15:26] <Zyewni> dr_willis : not listed
[15:26] <dr_willis> Zyewni: i alswya just enter the smb://servername/sharename  directly in the address bar
[15:26] <Arash> can you suggest any book or something
[15:27] <Arash> I wanna get a linux server and run IRC
[15:27] <Zyewni> dr_willis : is there an easy way to share a screenshot with you?
[15:27] <Arash> on my subdomain IRC.Shabgard.org
[15:27] <dr_willis> run an irc server? why  bother. ;0
[15:27] <Arash> I work on a network security website
[15:27] <Arash> needs IRC ;)
[15:27] <dr_willis> Zyewni:   in the file manager.. hit ctrl-l and type in the address smb://YourServersname/sharename   and see if it works
[15:28] <bekks> Arash: Then you should already know about the security issues on what you are trying to do there.
[15:28] <dr_willis> Arash:  i must admit its sort of scary you work in 'security' and dont know what an X server is...
[15:28] <Zyewni> dr_willis: Error: Failed to mount Windows Share
[15:28] <dr_willis> Zyewni:  now try the windows machines ip number,. instead of server name
[15:28] <Arash> ;)) I'm more of a windows guy
[15:29] <Arash> Im new to linux and these stuff ...
[15:29] <Zyewni> Ok, how do I figure out the machine's IP
[15:29] <Arash> www.whatismyip.com
[15:29] <dr_willis> Zyewni:  on the windows box.  theres differnt ways. i open a terminal and use ipconfig   normally
[15:29] <indieross> or  just google "my ip"
[15:29] <Zyewni> Arash, wouldn't that be the external IP? Wouldn't I need the internal ip?
[15:30] <Arash> you would
[15:30] <bekks> Zyewni: ifconfig
[15:30] <dr_willis> Zyewni:  or try 'findsmb' or 'smbtree'' on linux to scan the network and look
[15:30] <Arash> click on up and down button up there
[15:30] <Arash> or right-top corner
[15:30] <Arash> then click connection information
[15:30] <dr_willis> he needs the windiws box;s ip  numbeer.....
[15:30] <bekks> Arash: Not needed.
[15:30] <dr_willis>  smb://ip.of.the.windows.server/sharename   ;)
[15:31] <bekks> Arash: There is no need to use a browser to find out my own local IP.
[15:31] <Arash> I know
[15:31] <Arash> but generally Its easier ;)
[15:31] <bekks> It isnt.
[15:31] <Arash> and about the
[15:31] <Arash> local IP
[15:31] <Arash> you can't get the local ip via that website
[15:31] <Arash> as you said ipconfig / the network button on the bar up there (dunnow what Its called)
[15:32] <bekks> Arash: I said "ifconfig".
[15:32] <dr_willis> i sayd.. hes trying to find the ip of his WINDOWS box on the local lan....
[15:32] <fr-z> TechnoGeek it looks i dont need all that work. Grive was released fot those who need it ;)
[15:32] <Arash> oh Im sry :) then he's gotta run an IP scan
[15:32] <dr_willis> run the ipconfig on the windows box.....
[15:33] <bekks> Arash: No. All he has to do is to run "ipconfig" on his windows box.
[15:33] <induz> tv online player for ubuntu 10.04
[15:33] <Zyewni> ipconfig doesn't work, ifconfig doesn't display her ip
[15:33] <bekks> No scan, nothing else needed.
[15:33] <bekks> Zyewni: On a windows box, ipconfig will always work.
[15:33] <induz> tried sopcast but it does not have chaneels from asia
[15:33] <Zyewni> smbtree shows her pc, but not the ip
[15:33] <Zyewni> Ok, let me jump on her computer for a second
[15:33] <induz> tried tivion but that does nothing
[15:34] <Arash> u know bekks I think different :D
[15:34] <Arash> I never consider sitting behind the other PC :D
[15:35] <c0de_universal> someone could help me with lazarus in ubuntu 12.04?
[15:35] <Zyewni> Ok, ipconfig on her machine says 192.168.0.10
[15:36] <induz> online tv player---is there one on Ubuntu??
[15:36] <Zyewni> Still the same error
[15:37] <c0de_universal> someone could help me with lazarus in ubuntu 12.04?
[15:37] <Arash> !lazarus
[15:37] <TechnoGeek> TvCatchup have a plugin for UK Freeview for XBMC
[15:37] <induz> what is TvCatchup??
[15:37] <induz> and how to install it??
[15:37] <alexander> how to send files from phone to my ubuntu laptop via bluetooth (even though everything is turned on but the laptop doesn't appear in the list of Send to)?
[15:38] <induz> i am more for asian chanells
[15:38] <Arash> wait
[15:38] <Arash> I'll tell you alexander
[15:38] <TechnoGeek> yer i think there are some asian plugins too
[15:38] <Zyewni> dr_willis : when I plug that in, I still get an error
[15:38] <Arash> click on the bluetooth button up there
[15:38] <Arash> then click on Visible
[15:38] <TechnoGeek> goto http://xbmc.org/ and follow instructions
[15:39] <Arash> ;)
[15:39] <Arash> enJoY Alexander
[15:39] <alexander> Yes, its visible but still..
[15:39] <Arash> if the device still cannot find It
[15:40] <Arash> click on browse device
[15:40] <induz> TechnoGeek, thanks i am trying that website now
[15:40] <Arash> then go to your device and download the data you need
[15:40] <BigBen_> hi
[15:40] <Arash> ;)
[15:40] <Arash> !ping
[15:40] <M4rc3l> pong!
[15:40] <Arash> !ping 10
[15:40] <TechnoGeek> use the linux download, unless you want to use xmbcbuntu but that will turn your desktop into a media center,
[15:41] <alexander> I tried that but some window appear on the screen
[15:41] <TechnoGeek> then you can use google to search for xbmc plugins for asia
[15:41] <BigBen_> Does App for ubuntushowdown must be independent?
[15:41] <Arash> is there any GUI application for samba ?
[15:41] <alexander> for a split second and the phone shuts down (restarts)
[15:42] <zykotick9> alexander: you might want to research obex servers
[15:42] <compdoc> Arash, yes, but its not too elaborate
[15:43] <compdoc> system-config-samba
[15:47] <iceroot> Arash: swat
[15:51] <__Alex_> I'd like to record my sound output. Is there any way to do this?
[15:51] <__Alex_> Other than using a loopback cable
[15:53] <Arash> use sound recorder
[15:54] <TechnoGeek> depends on the sound card, my Creative labs automaticly offers a what you hear as an option in the recording options, but my laptops nasty 97 dosnt
[15:55] <escott> __Alex_, pulseaudio will have some way to save the stream
[15:55] <escott> __Alex_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/60837/record-a-programs-output-with-pulseaudio
[16:00] <tking> anyone know why my computer doesn't lock it self when i leave for some time?
[16:01] <xiangjianfeng> i think the anwear is system-power
[16:01] <bekks> tking: Because you didnt set that up in the screensaver. Lock it manually whenever you leave the computer.
[16:04] <tking> bekks can't find screensaver
[16:04] <Daekdroom> 12.04 doesn't have screensavers, for example.
[16:04] <Daekdroom> I don't think 11.10 does either.
[16:04] <bekks> Daekdroom: Huh? My 12.04 does have screensavers.
[16:04] <Daekdroom> But there's a way to make it lock the screen after a certain inactive time.
[16:04] <Daekdroom> Really? Mine doesn't.
[16:05] <BigBen_> what i must write to connect via ssh with single command? For example "ssh [some text with login and password] server.com"
[16:05] <Guest48748> hi
[16:05] <bekks> BigBen_: ssh user@host
[16:05] <escott> BigBen_, ssh does not allow that. and you should not do that. anyone who runs ps aux WILL see your password
[16:06] <Guest48748> algum brasileiro aqui?
[16:06] <escott> !br | Guest48748
[16:06] <bekks> BigBen_: You cannot specify the password directly, but you will have to use public key authentication
[16:06] <escott> BigBen_, what you need to do is setup an authkey. ssh-keygen; ssh-copy-id user@host
[16:06] <Arash> !fa
[16:07] <Arash> فارسی هم می شه نوشت ؟
[16:07] <BigBen_> bekks, escott, thx
[16:07] <nischay> Hello
[16:08] <BigBen_> Arash, tak napisałeś coś po persku :P
[16:08] <Arash> huh ? :D
[16:09] <nischay> I need some tips to improve my laptop battry backup thanx in advance
[16:09] <escott> !info powertop | nischay
[16:10] <miistx> un saluto
[16:11] <vibhav> !it | miistx
[16:12] <nischay> there are two version of it which should i use powertop and  powertop-1.13
[16:15] <BrixSat> where can i get help in ./configure scripts?
[16:17] <futoong> 1
[16:23] <escott> !alis | BrixSat
[16:28] <Plizzo> When you mount a drive with fstab, how can you prevent it from being mounted with root as owner?
[16:28] <bulio> Im running latest ubuntu, with LXDE
[16:28] <bulio> my laptop froze, and I had to unplug the batt
[16:28] <Arash> Samba is bugged !
[16:28] <bulio> now when I boot, I can see the ubuntu splash then nvidia splash
[16:28] <bulio> and then screen goes blank
[16:28] <Arash> I don't seem to be able to install It
[16:28] <bulio> I booted into a recovery shell
[16:28] <bulio> checked error log, dont see any EEs
[16:29] <bulio> tried to reconf using Xorg -reconfigure
[16:29] <bulio> gives me Fatal server error: cannot move log file
[16:30] <SkippersBoss> BrixSat, Prevent ??
[16:30] <giuseppe27vu> ciao
[16:30] <giuseppe27vu> !lista
[16:31] <helpmeguys> guys help me  i use Wubi and i have extracted everything in a formated drive and now after clicking on demo and full installation it boots into windows no such stuff as Ubuntu option appears
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[16:32] <zykotick9> bulio: id don't think -reconfigure is an option, try "sudo Xorg -configure" to get a new xorg.conf file (but i doubt that's your issue)
[16:32] <helpmeguys> guys ?????!!!!!!!
[16:32] <Fyodorovna> helpmeguys, wubi is a file in windows leave it in C
[16:33] <IdleOne> helpmeguys: what exactly did you extract? wubi is an executable file, download and double click - follow insturctions to install.
[16:33] <IdleOne> instructions*
[16:34] <helpmeguys> ???  Wubi is a file in Windows ?? well i got it in the ISO pack !! :Fyodorovna:  i extracted the whole ISO pack into a drive it had this Wubi also ]
[16:35] <Sidewinder1> helpmeguys,  And, WADR to the developers, while you're at it, you may wish to 'leave wubi'. It's only to try ubuntu; not for long term use.
[16:35] <bekks> helpmeguys: Yes. WUBI is a file in windows.
[16:35] <IdleOne> helpmeguys: ok, lets start from the start. What did you download and from where?
[16:35] <Corey> !wubi | helpmeguys
[16:35] <Arash> does anyone know how to fix this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/+bug/982609
[16:36] <helpmeguys> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso i downloadedit from here
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> Arash  apparentally, they're working on it
[16:37] <IdleOne> helpmeguys: ok you need to burn that iso file to a cd or usb
[16:37] <IdleOne> !install | helpmeguys
[16:37] <Arash> It might be because of root password ?
[16:37] <DanielWhite> Where can I ask a question about running Windows XP in a Xen virtual machine under Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:38] <Arash> Hello mehdi
[16:38] <alien2050> helpmeguys: personnaly I prefer unetbootin to install to usb
[16:39] <MagusAgnus> hi there!
[16:39] <helpmeguys> i used unebootin to do so and it works i tried installling the file but then it stopped as of today of 4 hours on a particular line something Cron run--part--report Something like this in the terminal type thing which installing
[16:40] <Miguelito> Hey - is anyone here familiar with the KDE desktop theme manager
[16:40] <Arash> Miguelito you better ask Kubuntu guys
[16:40] <IdleOne> Miguelito: #kubuntu but ask yuor question here and someone might know
[16:41] <SkippersBoss> Plizzo, What are you trying to achieve with your mount. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/mount.8.html should help u
[16:41] <BrixSat> SkippersBoss:  prevent? dont get it
[16:42] <kapz> I am trying to copy files and nautilus shows error: Too many levels of symbolic links.
[16:42] <SkippersBoss> BrixSat, sorry wrong nick i apologise
[16:42] <Miguelito> Arash, true that
[16:42] <Sox> How to I change the OS boot order in GRUB?
[16:42] <BrixSat> :)
[16:42] <helpmeguys> ??
[16:42] <Sox> *do
[16:43] <The_Ghost> anyone to give a help on bash?
[16:43] <Miguelito> I am using the theme manager and i change and apply a new them but it does not take effect
[16:43] <Arash> *help
[16:43] <IdleOne> helpmeguys: so you created a bootable USB with the iso you downloaded and it boots to Ubuntu correct?
[16:43] <Arash> *yes
[16:43] <helpmeguys> Yes
[16:43] <maurizi0> OerHeks, zykotick9 : Hi! I solved my problem yesterday. I did it just installing "gnome-systems-tools". Then I used Advanced Settings and set the new user to be able to manage hdd or internal storage units.
[16:43] <Mandalord> Sox: change this /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:43] <IdleOne> helpmeguys: alright, why are you trying to install with wubi?
[16:44] <Sox> Mandalord: ty
[16:44] <maurizi0> Thank you, OerHeks zykotick9 .
[16:44] <helpmeguys> Cause nothing is working !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   no wubi no native install takes 4 hours + gets stuck i dont know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:44] <The_Ghost> HELP: how i can know what usr have permition to use bash scrips?
[16:44] <zgr> guys where is that "Shutdown this system now?" dialogue from? It appears when you press power button
[16:44] <IdleOne> helpmeguys: you just told me the USB is working
[16:44] <Mandalord> Sox: or use Grub customizer (easier)
[16:45] <maurizi0> OerHeks, zykotick9 : btw, I am mavri :)
[16:45] <IdleOne> helpmeguys: what is the ultimate goal you want to achieve here?
[16:45] <smw> zgr, from unity I think
[16:45] <Sox> Mandalord: Ho to I access Grub customizer?
[16:45] <zgr> smw: and how to configure/disable it? I can't find any solution.
[16:45] <The_Ghost> HELP: how i can know what usr have permition to use bash scripts?
[16:45] <smw> The_Ghost, all users can use bash scripts as long as they can read it
[16:45] <zgr> dconf and gconf doesn't affect it
[16:46] <Arash> !grub
[16:46] <helpmeguys> Ya uSb thing works it works !! it loads but in middle it gets stuck and dosent move forward   my ultimate goal is to install Ubuntu alongside Windows !!
[16:46] <smw> zgr, I don't think that is possible
[16:46] <SkippersBoss> !details | helpmeguys
[16:46] <IdleOne> !dualboot | helpmeguys read this
[16:46] <Mandalord> Sox: here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1664134
[16:46] <Sox> Thanks, again!
[16:47] <IdleOne> helpmeguys: this is the link you want to check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows
[16:47] <The_Ghost> smw: but how i know how have to read?
[16:48] <smw> The_Ghost, what is the context here?
[16:48] <smw> Where is this script?
[16:48] <The_Ghost> smw: i need to do a bash script to know usrs from /etc/passwd and know who have permition to use that script
[16:49] <smw> The_Ghost, I don't understand
[16:50] <tbrown> I was wondering what is the chat room channel for Open Suse
[16:50] <IdleOne> !alis | tbrown
[16:50] <helpmeguys> i am running windows want to install Ubuntu precise pangolin downloaded it from original site      used unebootin   it booted i selected drives it said  cd rom not mounted   OPTIONS- Go back and continue i tried 1 button it stuch  then reboot  and secons stucj again reboot then  i pressed cross and it worked after that a point came again it got stuck something  CROn: root cd / && run-parts --report ...
[16:50] <Prez00> hello all
[16:50] <Prez00> good to be back on #ubuntu
[16:51] <compdoc> you'll be here all week?
[16:51] <The_Ghost> smw: lets go step-by-step, ok?
[16:51] <smw> ok
[16:51] <The_Ghost> smw: 1º need to create a file with all usr of my machine
[16:52] <alexei> a ver como es esto
[16:52] <The_Ghost> smw: i do cat /etc/passwd, right?
[16:52] <BlueEagle> The_Ghost: /etc/passwd does have all users, yes. How ever you prolly don't want the service accounts.
[16:52] <smw> The_Ghost, sudo cat /etc/passwd | awk -F ':' '{print $1}'
[16:53] <The_Ghost> rigtg
[16:53] <The_Ghost> right
[16:53] <DJones> !es | alexei
[16:53] <alexei> gracias dj ubottu
[16:53] <alexei> q es mi primera vez
[16:54] <The_Ghost> smw: right... now... with the list of usr i need to know who have permission to run the bash script and only that
[16:54] <BlueEagle> smw: You want to grep on /bin/bash as well I guess.
[16:54] <pratik> Hi all. I have a network related problem on Ubuntu 12.04. Is this the right channel to shoot it?
[16:54] <BlueEagle> The_Ghost: cat /etc/passwd|grep /bin/bash|awk -F ':' '{print $1}'
[16:55] <IdleOne> pratik: depends on the problem
[16:55] <DanielWhite> I have a desktop with Windows XP installed in one partition (/dev/sda1) and Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Server installed in another (/dev/sda2).  I can choose which operating system to run at boot time, and both work.  In Ubuntu, I have installed Xen and Virtual Machine Manager.  I can create a Windows XP virtual machine using a file as the virtual disk, and it works fine.  However, when I try to create a Windows XP virtual machine using /dev/sda1 as
[16:55] <DanielWhite>  the virtual disk, the virtual machine won't start; it's stuck at the message that says "Booting from Hard Disk..."
[16:55] <smw> The_Ghost, I would read /etc/group
[16:55] <The_Ghost> smw: yes, but with my usrname i can run bash script but doesn't appear in the list
[16:56] <pratik> Whenever I open "Networks", I get a popup saying "The system network settings are not compatible with this version"
[16:56] <rainbowwarrior2> hello, can someone please tell me of a program that will allow me to stream movies over the internet for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[16:56] <SkippersBoss> helpmeguys,  have you tried using the alternate install
[16:56] <smw> The_Ghost, this is too complicated to do with bash
[16:56] <smw> The_Ghost, here is what I would do with another language:
[16:56] <BlueEagle> smw: You could do a foreach in bash couldn't you?
[16:56] <IdleOne> DanielWhite: might try ##xen
[16:56] <helpmeguys> I have tried that only i cant afford to format the whole disc including my files ETC
[16:57] <DanielWhite> thank you
[16:57] <smw> The_Ghost, 1. Read the permission of the file. We will assume anyone with execute permission can execute it.
[16:57] <IdleOne> DanielWhite: sure thing
[16:57] <smw> The_Ghost, if the owner has permission, add him to the list
[16:57] <SkippersBoss> helpmeguys, do u get to the partitioner
[16:57] <Lantizia> I have a file that is a raw image of a vfat partition... how can I (as non-root ONLY) extract the contents of it?
[16:57] <smw> The_Ghost, if the group has permission, add each user in the group (according to /etc/group)
[16:58] <The_Ghost> smw: and how can i read the permission of the file?
[16:58] <The_Ghost> :s
[16:58] <smw> The_Ghost, if everyone has permission to execute the file, list all from passwd
[16:58] <pratik>  Whenever I open "Networks", I get a popup saying "The system network settings are not compatible with this version". How to fix it? I'm not able to connect to the internet as well.
[16:58] <SkippersBoss> helpmeguys, Which iso are you trying to install
[16:58] <smw> The_Ghost, I use ls -l with bash
[16:58] <smw> The_Ghost, but if I were making a script, I would use stat or just pick a different language
[16:58] <smw> The_Ghost, this plan involves parsing files,  I would not attempt it in bash
[16:58] <The_Ghost> smw: i have to do in bash... :S
[16:59] <pratik> can someone please help me or guide me to an appropriate channel?
[16:59] <smw> The_Ghost, well, I told you what I would do
[16:59] <The_Ghost> smw: tks... i'll try
[16:59] <smw> The_Ghost, however, one correction. Anyone with read can execute it by calling bash
[16:59] <helpmeguys> Yes but i do not partition anything as i have a full formated drive 180 gb for it i choose thatt drive and select ext 4 format for it and down where the option Windows and Dos are situated i type  "/ "             ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso  is the name of the ISO
[16:59] <smw> The_Ghost, but they can not execute it without bash's help
[17:00] <IdleOne> pratik: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:00] <alien2050> pratik: It would be useful to get more info
[17:00] <pratik> IdleOne: 12.04
[17:00] <IdleOne> pratik: was this an upgrade of clean install?
[17:00] <IdleOne> s/of/or/
[17:01] <alien2050> like, what is your NIC model?
[17:01] <pratik> IdleOne: It was a clean install. I had BSNL Broadband earlier and it was working perfectly on it. Now I've a new connection - Tikona WiBro
[17:01] <BetaArk> Hi! I'm trying to get the ubuntu overlay-scrollbars on Archlinux... is this the right channel to ask?
[17:01] <pratik> IdleOne: It connects automatically on Windows
[17:01] <IdleOne> BetaArk: no, #arch perhaps
[17:02] <BetaArk> IdleOne: I need to ask how they patch gtk3....
[17:02] <BetaArk> *they = ubuntu-team
[17:02] <IdleOne> pratik: sorry, I can't help with this it is beyond me
[17:02] <IdleOne> BetaArk: maybe #ubuntu-devel
[17:03] <pratik> IdleOne: No problem. Thanks.
[17:03] <SkippersBoss> helpmeguys, what happens if you use the i386 iso instead
[17:03] <IdleOne> pratik: maybe tell alien2050 your NIC model and they can help
[17:04] <helpmeguys> then i dont know i wont be able to use most of my 6 Gb Ram !!
[17:04] <L3top> !pae | helpmeguys
[17:04] <pratik> IdleOne: sure
[17:04] <helpmeguys> OK then Bye thanks ill try this new method and See
[17:06] <Sidewinder1> helpmeguys, Just remember to md5sum the ubuntu ISO, after d/l but BEFORE burning to CD or installing to USB.
[17:06] <Sidewinder1> Gone; figures. :-(
[17:06] <raptor67682> would you know the user in this channel of  K.Mandla's (ubuntu fan)?
[17:07] <Disk1of5> is it just me or is flash 11.2 completely broken?
[17:07] <ominomi> Disk1of5: What seems to be happening?
[17:07] <dr_willis> flash and broken are 2 words used together -most ofthe time..  ;)
[17:08] <Disk1of5> ominomi: i get a bluetint on videos and when enabling hardware exceleration its only useable 20% of the time
[17:08] <dr_willis> found a way to use vlc to play flash video in firefox on youtube and other sites. ;)
[17:08] <powerstation> Hey guys. I'm trying to add a custom entry to grub2, but after writing the script and chmod +x I run update-grub2, and just get a "not found" for the script I added.  The script -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1057801/ the error -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1057802/
[17:08] <dr_willis> bluetint is a known issues. work arounds are mentioned at the askubuntu.com site
[17:09] <Disk1of5> dr_willis: yes bluetint is a known issues to the linux comunity but to adobe it looks like they are unable to reproduce the problems.. : /
[17:10] <dr_willis> Disk1of5:  the askubuntu.com info i saw the otehjr day mentioned how adobe is basically ignoreing all the bug reports..
[17:10] <LofS> vempppu
[17:10] <dr_willis> powerstation:  why are you not using the /etc/grub.d/40_custom file? (i think i got the name right)
[17:11] <powerstation> dr_willis, I tried that at first, but got the same error. So I tried making a custom one, but alas the error persist.
[17:12] <dr_willis> powerstation:  odd.. not used the custome entry in some time. but i have used it in the past with no issues. Im on my phone so cant trouble shoot things very well.
[17:12] <The_Ghost> smw, you know how can i create a new and empty txt file with bash script?
[17:12] <yugnip> The_Ghost: use cat
[17:12] <IdleOne> powerstation: the command is update-grub not grub2
[17:12] <smw> The_Ghost, touch
[17:13] <BlueEagle> Disk1of5: It's just you.
[17:13] <powerstation> IdleOne, not for grub2 ?
[17:13] <dr_willis> powerstation:  since its such a small script. try iusing just echo commands instead of the cat ;; eof  method to print the lines
[17:14] <The_Ghost> smw: tks
[17:14] <powerstation> IdleOne, It makes the same error :)
[17:14] <IdleOne> powerstation: you got me then
[17:15] <dr_willis> powerstation:  and check with  theoriginal  40_custom file. I was thinking there was some header info in it.
[17:16] <dr_willis> powerstation:  if i rember right all i did for 40_custome was cut/paste the exacct lines for the new entry. did not need any fancy shell commands.
[17:17] <dr_willis> 40_custom just put everything past line5 and on  into the grub.cfg i recall.
[17:17] <powerstation> dr_willis,  I tried that, and then added the fancy shell according to some tutorials I found. I'll try to unfancy the script and use 40_custom
[17:18] <dr_willis> powerstation:  also in your paste... the.. err.. first line has a typo....
[17:18] <dr_willis>  #!/bin/sh  you got #!bin/sh
[17:20] <powerstation> dr_willis, I tried with the 40_customt, but now I just get a not found for that : /
[17:20] <dr_willis> pastebin your 40_custom
[17:21] <Arash> hi again ;)
[17:22] <powerstation> dr_willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1057825/
[17:22] <zykotick9> IdleOne: update-grub2 will infact call update-grub (they're the same)
[17:23] <powerstation> dr_willis, I tried the commands manually in grub command line, and the work there, so that shouldn't be the problem
[17:23] <xenith_> I am having retarded issues with WINE and *PlayOnLinux*
[17:24] <dr_willis> someone want to check their /etc/grub,d/40_custome file and see that the first line is? is it #!/bin/sh OR is it #!bin/sh ?
[17:24] <dr_willis> note the missing /
[17:24] <xenith_> Visualize a 6'4 guy on his knees begging for someone to enlighten him on his nubbish linux ways. I need someone to help me!
[17:25] <xenith_> Tried installing Diablo 2 on my Ubuntu 12.04 x64 computer... seems like everytime I try running the DiabloII.exe with WINE or PlayOnLinux, it simply doesnt do anything.
[17:25] <xtor_> Is there any non adobe product I can use, prefarably on ubuntu, that will allow me to make small simple videos where I edit them to put text overlays on them? I need something noob friendly.
[17:25] <dr_willis> xenith_:  you did check the wine app datgabase for that game? i recall many games have issues in wine with their copy protection.
[17:26] <IdleOne> zykotick9: thanks, good to know.
[17:27] <BlunterBlender> Any Nvidia Linux users out there?  Should I upgrade from driver version 295.59 from 295.49 if I am using Nvidia Geforce 8400M GS?  Will I see any improvements? I heard that the beta 302.17 might show some major performance improvements.  I'm using 12.04 LTS...
[17:27] <powerstation> dr_willis, the interwebs uses /bin
[17:27] <xenith_> Crap, how do you whisper/message in this IRC client?
[17:27] <dr_willis> powerstation:  as i think it should be #!/bin/sh
[17:27] <IdleOne> xenith_: /msg nickname message
[17:27] <dr_willis> powerstation:  so it seems theres some typos creeping in from somewhere.
[17:28] <dr_willis> !msg
[17:29] <powerstation> dr_willis, Stupid fingers with the typos and the mistakes.. I could run update-grub without errors now. I'll reboot and check it out. Thanks! :)
[17:29] <fwiss> Hey guys, my KDE doesn't have a network manager. What is the package name for it? I tried plasma-widget-network-manager, didnt work, neither did kwlan. Neitehr are packages.
[17:29] <Sox> Couldn't get any audio on my laptop with Ubuntu installed, so I had to remove it. I tried dozens of "fixes". I even tried an earlier release of the distro. No joy. My audio card is Intel, so it's surprising to find out that it "wasn't supported".
[17:29] <dr_willis> powerstation:  :) why i kept mentioning that first line.. heh
[17:30] <dr_willis> Sox:  tried other disrtos? could be some known issue/bug in the kernek...
[17:30] <alien2050> fwiss: maybe try wicd
[17:30] <fwiss> Nevermind. However, I've been having crashes in Sandy Bridge.
[17:30] <xenith_> Anyone familiar with WINE?
[17:30] <fwiss> I've used KDE, GNOME, and xfce, and I get crashes in both
[17:30] <fwiss> Would someone look at the logs?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> BlunterBlender, I tried the 302 driver for a while but there wasn't any noticable improvement with the 7600GT . there doesn't seem to be any difference now that i installed the recommended driver 295.53
[17:30] <alien2050> fwiss: define crashes
[17:31] <Sox> dr_willis: It's definitely a kernel issue. Oh, well. I really liked Ubuntu on my las machine. Later..
[17:31] <Sox> *last
[17:31] <BlunterBlender> ok
[17:31] <BlunterBlender> thanks
[17:31] <Mandalord> Sox: wget -O alsa-info.sh www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ~/alsa-info.sh && ~/alsa-info.sh
[17:31] <dr_willis> Sox:  kernel issues may affect many other disrtos.
[17:31] <fwiss> Well, My mouse pointer gets stuck on the 'dragging' pointer.
[17:31] <Sox> Hi Mandalord: I tried that, but thanks.
[17:31] <fwiss> I can switch to virtual terminal, but I forget how to get X's procID
[17:31] <Sox> dr_willis: Yep, I had the same problem with Mint.
[17:32] <alien2050> ps -ef | grep X
[17:32] <fwiss> and resetting X everytime I get an error is probably not healthy.
[17:32] <Sox> It looks like I won't be able to run Linux with sound on this box. I have other boxes, though.
[17:32] <fwiss> Also, once while I was using VLC in fullscreen, the mouse pointer didn't change, but it crashed.
[17:32] <fwiss> I couldn
[17:32] <fwiss> t switch to a tty this time.
[17:32] <xenith_> Welcome back Doc
[17:32] <fwiss> When I closed the laptop, it didn
[17:32] <alien2050> fwiss: depends... but in KDE I'm not sure... I prefer unity/gnomshell/enlightenment/fluxbox, in that order
[17:32] <fwiss> t suspend.
[17:32] <dr_willis> gotta love crashing irc cclients..
[17:32] <xenith_> I am still looking into how to fix this issue but I am not getting any progress.
[17:33] <Mandalord> Sox: can you run the command above and paste the link of result
[17:33] <fwiss> I don't think the DE has anything to do with it, the crashes happen in all of them/
[17:34] <alien2050> fiwss: could be faulty hw alas
[17:34] <Sox> Mandalord: I really do love your unwillingness to give up. But I've gone that route with the (very capable) guys in my LUG. I've put far too much of my time into this already, but I would like to thank all of you for your help during the past day or so.
[17:34] <paparent> Hey! I'm making an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 using do-release-upgrade.. when doing the "setting up ....." phase, there's one from dropbox, and it now says: "Downloading Dropbox... 99%", and it's stalled there :( What can i do? can i ctrl+c and do something to resume the upgrade??
[17:34] <tbrown> Going to be using OpenSuse on my Windows 8 PC. I hope I like the experence. I been having trouble booting OpenSuse on a usb bootable pin drive. I dont know what am doing wrong am using ImageWriter.
[17:34] <dr_willis> Sox:  final test would be to try 12.10 and see if the issue is still there.. if so be sure to file a bug report
[17:34] <BluesKaj> Sox, what does lsmod show as a sound driver ?
[17:35] <xenith_> WINE isn't working right, can someone help me troubleshoot?
[17:35] <Sox> These are all paths that I have already traveled. Thanks again. l8r
[17:35] <fwiss> So what's a faulty hw?
[17:36] <dr_willis> xenith_:  there is teh #winehq channel also.
[17:36] <Riddla> Evening
[17:37] <alien2050> fwiss: like faulty vid card, for one
[17:37] <alien2050> fwiss: or drive issue
[17:37] <fwiss> Hardware issue?
[17:37] <alien2050> driver
[17:37] <fwiss> Oh.
[17:38] <alien2050> too many crashes in many environnements is not a good sign
[17:38] <fwiss> Well, when I tried Ubuntu 11.04, it crashed on this box
[17:38] <fwiss> So I used Windows, sorry.
[17:38] <fwiss> There were no crashes in windows due to first-party Intel support.
[17:38] <fwiss> I heard the crashes were fixed in the 3.2 kernel.
[17:38] <ganimede> hi all. i am experiencing an issue with my touchscreen with ubuntu 12.04, that was not happening with the 11.x. the issue is that the driver seems to apply multitouch and it is even documented here: http://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/5024/ but I dont know how to apply it on ubuntu. can anyone help? alternatively, i do i report a bug for ubuntu for its correction?
[17:39] <fwiss> So you're saying they aren't?
[17:39] <zgr> guys how to determine which process invokes some certain dialog?
[17:39] <dr_willis> ganimede:  you searched the bug reports to see if its allready been reported ?
[17:40] <alien2050> the reason for that being that Microsoft forces every vendor to follow their rules... for now
[17:40] <ganimede> how do i do that, dr_willis?
[17:40] <dr_willis> !bug
[17:40] <ganimede> !bug
[17:40] <dr_willis> check tghe bug list trackers
[17:40] <fwiss> So could I upgrade  the kernel in Ubuntu beyond 3.2?
[17:40] <dr_willis> fwiss:  theres unofficial ppa's for newer kernel versions
[17:40] <alien2050> maybe if you have many pci-x cards installed, try removing them and reinstall, check if the crashes are still there
[17:40] <fwiss> I think I could do that in Debian. Or maybe Arch, but not sure about Ubuntu.
[17:41] <zgr> someone knows what invokes Shutdown dialog when pressing power button? How to disable it
[17:41] <fwiss> And this is a laptop.
[17:41] <alien2050> zgr: in system settings - power options
[17:42] <fwiss> Freaking KDE network connections.
[17:42] <zgr> alien2050: where is nothing like that there
[17:42] <SunSoul> Hello, I have a friend with low vision, and I was wondering, is there a way to enable some kind of screen magnification on Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:42] <fwiss> It lets you edit the properties, but how do I actually connect to the network? It's not doinng it automatically even though I specified it should.
[17:42] <zgr> I'm using default 12.04 with unity, however it appears in unity2d and gnome-fallback too
[17:42] <zacktu> there is no more startup manager -- how do i modify grub setting so that the default boot is not the top line?
[17:43] <SunSoul> I know Gnome Shell 3 has built in magnification, but it does not seem like Ubuntu 12.04 has that in their Gnome Shell, just Orca Screen REader.
[17:43] <dr_willis> SunSoul:  compiz has a feature like that. and i recall seeing some disablity settings in unity at the top right once.
[17:43] <Kaizen> i have mysql running on ubuntu 12.04 and a health check crontab script that detects if mysqld is up, if it isn't up the script restarts it, escept it doesn't work when crontab runs it but it does work when a user runs the script manually, any ideas?
[17:43] <dr_willis> i foreget the name of the COmpiz plugin. you would enable/tweak it in the ccsm tool.
[17:44] <jluc> I got the feeling that its possible to use the same thunderbird profile  for both W7 and Ubuntu
[17:44] <jluc> Is that right ?
[17:44] <jluc> and the same for firefox
[17:44] <SunSoul> dr_willis, I see. I think it used to have the accessibiluty settings on the top right during testing, but for hwatever reason it is taken off.
[17:44] <TheLordOfTime> jluc:  i think so but you may want to ask the ffox and thunderbird people
[17:44] <SunSoul> When you go to Universal Access within Ubuntu 12.04, there is not Zoom option, only Screen Reader, for Orca
[17:45] <jluc> ok thanks TheLordOfTime
[17:45] <dr_willis> SunSoul: my wife used to use the maganificationplugin in compiz. but its been ages since ive last tried it
[17:45] <alien2050> zgr: sorry you're right. check this thread : http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[17:45] <dr_willis> SunSoul:  install ccsm,and see what you can find i guess. im not at a pc to explore ccsm settings right now
[17:45] <xenith__> What is the IRC channel for WINE
[17:45] <xenith__> ?
[17:45] <zykotick9> xenith__: #winehq
[17:46] <dr_willis> !wine
[17:46] <SunSoul> Ok dr_willis , I will give it a shot.
[17:46] <Maximvm> hellp there, someone can give me a hint to how to create my own channel?
[17:46] <Riddla> Er
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> Maximvm:  IRC questions in #freenode please
[17:47] <Riddla> Maximvm: Just /j an empty channel
[17:47] <bcgrown> have mythbuntu (12.04),  tried to install xubuntu-desktop.  now apt-get won't do anything because it has an error replacing /etc/skel/.xscreensaver.  is there any way out of this?
[17:47] <bcgrown> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xubuntu-default-settings_12.04.11_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/etc/skel/.xscreensaver', which is also in package mythbuntu-default-settings 1.08
[17:48] <bcgrown> that's the error i get when i do "apt-get install -f"
[17:48] <roasted> hi
[17:48] <TheLordOfTime> bcgrown:  if you read the error it tells you the problem
[17:48] <TheLordOfTime> bcgrown:  the overwrite is conflicting with another package
[17:48] <dr_willis> bcgrown:  both packages want to change teh same file. try renameing it to somthing else
[17:48] <zykotick9> bcgrown: i though mythbuntu already came with xfce?
[17:48] <TheLordOfTime> ^
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> what dr_willis said
[17:49] <bcgrown> TheLordOfTime: i tried deleting the file but i still get the error
[17:49] <bcgrown> zykotick9: yes but not all of xubuntu-desktop
[17:49] <bcgrown> i would just do a clean install but nothing i try is working today :( cd burner won't work,  usb won't boot.  grr
[17:49] <zykotick9> dr_willis: it's a package (apt) issue, the database not the actual file
[17:50] <dr_willis> lovely that  the issue is over such a trivial file./ ;)
[17:50] <bcgrown> dr_willis: yes, 'lovely' indeed :(
[17:51] <dr_willis> and such file would only be used by users made after you install the packages..
[17:51] <zykotick9> bcgrown: rather then trying to add another metapackage, why not install the package(s) you want what is missing.
[17:51] <dr_willis> wwonder if its wworth filing a bug report against both pacakges.
[17:51] <bcgrown> zykotick9: because i want the whole desktop,  and don't want a broken system
[17:52] <RhumAin> salut tout le monde
[17:52] <zykotick9> !fr | RhumAin
[17:52] <bcgrown> zykotick9: and because apt-get refuses to do anything now because of this issue
[17:52] <dr_willis> guess we need a update-alternatives for /etc/skel/.xscrrnsaver ;) talk about overkill.
[17:52] <adarax> hi
[17:53] <adarax> witch is better..ubuntu 10.10 or 12.04?
[17:53] <zykotick9> adarax: which is better - yellow or red?
[17:53] <adarax> unity or gnome2
[17:53] <Pici> adarax: 10.10 is no longer supported.
[17:53] <dr_willis> adarax:  try themboth. decide for yourself.
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> !10.10 | adaraxx
[17:53] <dr_willis> gnome2 is basically dead...
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> bleh
[17:54] <escott> zykotick9, red. definitely red
[17:54] <dr_willis> Pink!
[17:54] <adarax> okey.thanks
[17:54] <Riddla> It's dead, Jim
[17:54] <bcgrown> blue is the best
[17:56] <_raven> how to run an application as a different user?
[17:57] <zykotick9> _raven: consult "man sudo"
[17:57] <Riddla> brb, going to bork my install
[17:57] <Riddla> because, y'know, science
[17:57] <Jessica_Lily> _raven: su <username> -c 'application name &' or if it's root sudo
[17:57] <Jessica_Lily> :)
[17:58] <_raven> zykotick9 Jessica_Lily cannot connect to x server
[17:58] <zykotick9> _raven: that doesn't surpsise me.  sorry no clue, good luck.
[17:58] <dr_willis> thats x security kicking in
[17:59] <dr_willis> the user running x has to use xhost + xxxxx     to allow the other users access to the desktop
[18:00] <dr_willis> !xhost
[18:00] <BobSapp> hi guys im using 12.04 and i want to start a python script when I login where would i put that?
[18:00] <dr_willis> !info sux
[18:00] <Jessica_Lily> Hey, I think xdg-open has a problem. if I open any links in any problem xchat, skype, etc... or use xdg-open from the terminal my system locks up for a short time. I'm running 12.04 64bit edition. Anyone got any ideas?
[18:00] <Jessica_Lily> BobSapp: ~/.bashrc
[18:00] <BobSapp> Jessica_Lily: that wont work since I want to start a WM
[18:00] <dr_willis> !autorun
[18:00] <BobSapp> it will start it every time i open a termninal?
[18:01] <BobSapp> *terminal
[18:01] <dr_willis> !autostart
[18:01] <BobSapp> thanks dr willis
[18:01] <dr_willis> the .config/autostart dir is used normally
[18:01] <twonegative> I just upgraded to 12.04 and every since then my laptop crashed during a resume from suspend
[18:01] <twonegative> it seems  to occur when update are available
[18:01] <twonegative> is there a known fix for this
[18:03] <zykotick9> Jessica_Lily: verify what "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" is configured to use
[18:05] <tking> hello all is there an email marketing software for ubuntu? something like "Advanced Mass sender" or SendBlaster
[18:05] <BobSapp> thanks Jessica_Lily I ended up using your method anyway since its a WM it wont run twice
[18:05] <zykotick9> how can i spam the world?  tking
[18:05] <BobSapp> 12.04 cant find any session options or anything, the menu has changed
[18:06] <Jessica_Lily> zykotick9: yep it's configured to firefox
[18:06] <tking> zykotick9, what do u mean?
[18:06] <zykotick9> Jessica_Lily: from a terminal if you start firefox directly, do you have the same pause?
[18:06] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[18:07] <kosaidpo> is it possible to get root acces in a limited account by usin the root boot option ??
[18:07] <Jessica_Lily> i do, seems it's a problem to do with firefox
[18:10] <jluc> one of my disk's adress seems to be  /media/8CCC8865CC884B80
[18:10] <twonegative> Are there any known fixes for the constant crashing of 12.04 when coming out of suspend mode?
[18:10] <escott> kosaidpo, yes
[18:10] <jluc> is there a more friendly adress ?
[18:10] <Jessica_Lily> jluc: you can make one but otherwise no...
[18:10] <Jessica_Lily> :P
[18:11] <jluc> how do i name it then ?
[18:11] <escott> jluc, put a label on the filesystem and it will be mounted with that label
[18:11] <escott> jluc, use gparted to do that
[18:11] <kosaidpo> escott: in my job we have debian but its very limited you kno can't navigate or anythin so i wanna get root acces to do w.e i want how can i give root privelege to a user ??
[18:11] <zykotick9> LABELs FTW over UUIDs
[18:11] <escott> !sudo | kosaidpo
[18:11]  * Jessica_Lily is old school and used /dev/xxx
[18:12] <Jessica_Lily> ::P
[18:12] <jluc> it will not hurt the windows use of this disk to use gparted to put a label on this disk ?
[18:12] <zykotick9> Jessica_Lily: bad idea
[18:12] <Jessica_Lily> jluc: nawh
[18:12] <Jessica_Lily> zykotick9: i've used linux all my life, never had a problem so far with that method
[18:12] <kosaidpo> escott: i do kno sudo but to let the user gain root acces must belong to many groups so my question how i can do all this in one action
[18:12] <berefeira> in pangolin, anyone had success setting banshee back to default in sound menu?
[18:13] <zykotick9> Jessica_Lily: well, once your sdX# changes on you, you'll update to the 20th centure ;)
[18:13] <sirriffsalot> My power supply cooler is making so much noise I can't take it until tomorrow when I'm delivering it for a repair.. Is there a command to turn the power-supply fan off?:P
[18:13] <sirriffsalot> And would this be at all wise for one day?
[18:13] <escott> kosaidpo, use an account that has root to give that user root access
[18:13] <Jessica_Lily> :P
[18:13] <Jessica_Lily> zykotick9: doubtful :P
[18:13] <guntbert> !noroot | escott
[18:14] <escott> guntbert, im not instructing him to do so
[18:14] <sirriffsalot> Anyone?:P
[18:14] <Jessica_Lily> what's wrong with telling someone how? isn't that a form of education?
[18:15] <dr_willis> mythbusters tv show wont tell you the forumla for gunpowder either....
[18:15] <guntbert> escott: its completely unnecessary too - they should use sudo -i     (if they insist)
[18:15] <kosaidpo> guntbert: i kno how to do this :D
[18:15] <escott> Jessica_Lily, we could also provide education on making pipe bombs but its not appropriate for this channel
[18:15] <Jessica_Lily> :P
[18:15] <escott> guntbert, i know all this. im not telling him to do any of those things
[18:15] <dr_willis> adding a user to the 'sudoers' group i belive is a single command.
[18:15] <guntbert> escott: so I probably misunderstood - apologies :)
[18:15] <dr_willis> or was it the sudo group? i forget the group name
[18:16] <zykotick9> dr_willis: "sudo" group ;)
[18:16] <Jessica_Lily> escott: i don't see a problem with educating people how to but so long as you tell them the problems with it
[18:16] <dr_willis> ages ago it was the 'wheel' group
[18:16] <pyfon> wifi desperation: I've tried almost everything to get wifi working on a freshly installed ubuntu asus 1001p netbook, can anyone help?
[18:16] <kosaidpo> dr_willis: thanks so the sudeors group ok
[18:16] <zykotick9> dr_willis: wheel was to su to root, ubuntu used to use "admin" for sudo
[18:16] <jluc> gparted shows that there is allready a label ! amof, its the partition's name. But how do i use this name to name a file on this disk ?
[18:16] <dr_willis> we need moar groups! ;)
[18:16] <Jessica_Lily> escott: i did get "told off" when i was educating people why the command to rm your system was bad because i said the command =/
[18:17] <guntbert> Jessica_Lily: just keep to support, please :)
[18:17] <dr_willis> jluc:  clarify what you are trying to do exactly..
[18:18] <escott> Jessica_Lily, giving people easily misused commands in this channel leads to mistakes and more problems to resolve in this channel. if you want to run your own channel and tell people to set root passwords you are welcome to do so. we can send everyone who breaks their system that way to you
[18:18] <Jessica_Lily> haha can do, i run my own network :P
[18:18] <King_OnTheGo> Jessica_Lily come with me
[18:18] <jluc> partition name is STOR precisely. It appears as a label in gparted. I would like for example to cd to root of STOR
[18:19] <jluc> or to move some folder to root of STOR partition
[18:19] <dr_willis> jluc:  you mount it whever you want then cd to the mountpoint..
[18:19] <King_OnTheGo> you keep using that word root, I don't think it means what you think it means
[18:19] <dr_willis> jluc:  or whatever tasks you need to do. it has to be mounted somewhere
[18:19] <jluc> oh ! this is what mounting is ...
[18:19] <jluc> great discovery :-)
[18:19] <dr_willis> !mount
[18:19] <Jessica_Lily> who are you addressing King_OnTheGo
[18:19] <guntbert> !ot | King_OnTheGo , Jessica_Lily
[18:20] <King_OnTheGo> Jessica_Lily what are you referring to?
[18:20] <jluc> it was automatically mounted so gparted or the file tool will tell me where...
[18:20] <dr_willis> jluc:  the mount command shows also.. most likely in /media/
[18:21] <jluc> yes /media/STOR
[18:21] <dr_willis> jluc:  yep.. thats how it normaally works
[18:21] <jluc> so there is no C: or F: shortcut as in windows
[18:21] <dr_willis> jluc:  linux is notwindows..   you mount a filesystem where you need.
[18:22] <dr_willis> jluc:  devices have names like /dev/sdXX   for each drive/partition
[18:22] <jluc> okok thanks a lot
[18:22] <dr_willis> you dont do stuff to the files on a filesystem. untill its mounted somewhere
[18:23] <jluc> and what is the recommanded usage to name / access files on disks ?
[18:23] <dr_willis> jluc:   yiu can mount stuff wherever you want. under any name.. if yiu wanted to
[18:23] <jluc> in a script for ex i have to access the file through /media/stor/mypath/nameoffile.ext ?
[18:24] <dr_willis> jluc:  tip #1 - CASE IS imporntant in   Linux.. stor is NOT ther same as STOR
[18:24] <jluc> with STOR instead of stor
[18:24] <dr_willis> ;)
[18:24] <jluc> yes :-)
[18:24] <bcgrown> woo, finally got a cd to burn properly.  later y'all!
[18:24] <dr_willis>  you use the proper path to access the files
[18:24] <jluc> ok
[18:25] <jluc> its just strange for me to access the root of a disk through a deep path like /media/nameofpartition
[18:25] <jluc> but i can use get used to it !
[18:25] <dr_willis> jluc:  makes perfect sence to me...
[18:25] <dr_willis> the filesystem is mounted to a direcgtory.. thats how it works
[18:26] <dr_willis> windows does it in the confuseing way
[18:26] <Riddla> I didn't break it!
[18:26] <dr_willis> and windows can also  do it similer to how linux does...
[18:26] <Riddla> In fact, I resolved my nvidia driver dilemma
[18:26] <escott> jluc, its the way windows does it as well (although its done behind the scenes)
[18:26] <Riddla> Suhweet
[18:27] <Riddla> For anyone wondering - installing nvidia drivers on a full desktop install on an external hard drive moving between a laptop with integrated intel graphics and a desktop with a standalone graphics card - does not break it!
[18:28] <dr_willis> Riddla:  if the 2 machines used  ati and nvidia, or 2 differnt nvidia cards tht need differnt nvidia driver versions...  you may not be so lucky
[18:28] <Riddla> dr_willis: thankfully, it'll only be moving between my home desktop and my work laptop :>
[18:29] <Riddla> I had it in usb install mode and it was unstable as all hell, I'm glad the full install still works on an external HD and is more stable
[18:30] <dr_willis> live-cd setups can work for light ussage. ;) but can  break when you sttart insgtalling and upgradeing things.
[18:31] <Riddla> dr_willis: That's been my (2 day) experience so far ^^. So my next question, now it's stable - what's the best thing to take a backup image with? Any FOSS recommendations?
[18:31] <walruscode> I've got a very troubling issue: I just rebooted my computer (with the physical reboot button, as it was unresponsive), and now, every file in my home folder begins with "ECRYPTS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED." Can someone help?
[18:31] <dr_willis> Riddell:  i rarely worry about full backups. I just backup my home dir to some exteranl hd or place
[18:32] <crankharder> um, apt-get install postgresql isn't properly creating /etc/postgresql/8.4, which the init script needs.... why?
[18:32] <Riddla> I want to preserve the applications as well really, I have Chrome set up and some PITA server stuff that I'd rather not have to do again :(
[18:32] <Eagleman77> How do i change --dport 80 to all ports?
[18:32] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman77:  in...?
[18:32] <dr_willis> !backup
[18:32] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman77:  in iptables?
[18:32] <Eagleman77> yes
[18:33] <walruscode> Also, it seems that file contents are unaffected; only filenames are obfuscated
[18:33] <Riddla> Ah amazing, thanks dr_willis
[18:33] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman77:  what do you want to do that for
[18:33] <TheLordOfTime> if i may ask
[18:33] <dr_willis> chrome has  a feature to sync the plugins and stuff btween  pcs :)
[18:33] <Eagleman77> Hard to explain
[18:33] <Riddla> !cloning
[18:33] <Eagleman77> Its some openwrt issue i need it for
[18:34] <Riddla> so aptitude essentially zips all applications in their current state and gives you a portable archive?
[18:34] <dr_willis> Riddell:  that !clone factoid says how to make a file thats a LIST of all insgtalled apps.. then how to reinstall from the LIST
[18:35] <pyfon> wifi issues: read countless forums/pages (ndiswrapper method/compiling ath9k driver from compat-wireless) - still can't get asus1001p wireless to work, any help?
[18:35] <Riddla> Oh I see, so configs aren't included?
[18:35] <Eagleman77> TheLordOfTime you know how to set it to all ports?
[18:35] <dr_willis> it does not bacck up the apps.. just their names...
[18:35] <Riddla> Hm, not ideal..
[18:35] <dr_willis> JUST the names.. ;)
[18:35] <dr_willis> good for moving the list to other pcs to recreate a setup
[18:35] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman77:  yes, disable the firewall
[18:35] <Riddla> I see
[18:35] <Riddla> Thanks again
[18:35] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman77:  unless there's a very specific case you need to block everything for
[18:36] <TheLordOfTime> s/block/manually unblock/
[18:36] <Eagleman77> cant i set a range?  --dport 80 - 35763
[18:36] <Riddla> pyfon: Are you sure the problem is in Ubuntu? Has it ever worked on that machine?
[18:36] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman77:  i think you can, try --dport 80:SomeUpperBound
[18:37] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman77:  where SomeUpperBound is a higher port
[18:37] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman77:  but if you are going to be allowing all ports, you're better off disabling the inbound firewall
[18:37] <crankharder> anyone know what package installs /etc/postgresql/8.4/postgres.conf?
[18:37] <Eagleman77> Its for forwarding a external addresses in to internal addresses
[18:40] <sasser> good evening people
[18:44] <Matisse> hi
[18:44] <Matisse> is it a good idea to make an extra partition for the root directory using ext2 for speed?
[18:45] <psusi> Matisse, no... use ext4, it is far better
[18:45] <sasser> Matisse try an ext4
[18:45] <sasser> :D
[18:45] <walruscode> Can someone help me? Ubuntu fails to decrypt the filenames in my home folder, resulting in most files and directories starting with "ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED."
[18:45] <Matisse> most of the thing on / are static so a journaling filesystem isnt needed
[18:46] <guntbert> Matisse: if there is little change then there is no penalty for journaling either
[18:46] <psusi> Matisse, if you aren't doing much writing to it, then there's nothing to journal anyhow... having it there doesn't matter then... there are many other features that make for a better filesystem
[18:46] <Matisse> allright
[18:47] <escott> Matisse, you could also just have ext4 without the journal
[18:47] <psusi> that too
[18:47] <Matisse> cant choose that :)
[18:48] <escott> Matisse, why not?
[18:48] <Matisse> escott, its not listed
[18:49] <psusi> Matisse, you would have to format manually or use tune2fs to remove the journal later
[18:49] <psusi> Matisse, but really, there's no reason to
[18:49] <escott> Matisse, well obviously its not going to be listed. its not standard, but you can just use tune2fs to remove the journal
[18:49] <brett__> I have an ubuntu server running 10.04. Over the past month, something strange has been happening. It will become so slow, borderline unresponsive to http requests or ssh (takes ~10 minutes to log in or respond to a simple terminal command). I restarted the server and it seems to be working, but will do this again in a few days. How can I determine what is going on?
[18:50] <rhizmoe> why does the crash reporter always put up a spinner for like forever, what is it doing?
[18:50] <psusi> brett__, check with top to see if there's a process hogging the cpu or ram?
[18:51] <rhizmoe> brett__: run sar/sysstat
[18:52] <brett__> psusi: that would work, but only when it is responding. It's not really feasible to log in to it when the problem occurs, so maybe a way to figure out what is hogging cpu / ram after I restart--would that be possible?
[18:52] <kulhas> hello I am trying to compile a project, I have compiled and installed clanlib with checkinstall, now I am trying to use, but it seems not to find the symbols, how can I make sure that gcc -lmylib is working?
[18:56] <guntbert> brett__: 1) have a look at the logs
[18:56] <brett__> rhizmoe: sysstat looks like it wasn't enabled. i will enable to check back next itme that happens
[18:58] <IHateHavingToReg> Hey - I have a .html that has embedded PHP in it on apache2 in Ubuntu. How do I make it execute the PHP rather than display it? Also, is there any reason why this is a particularly bad idea? Except for book keeping it seems like it should be safe, right?
[18:58] <randomusr_> How does one install DRLB packages on Ubuntu?
[18:59] <WanderingEnder> IHateHavingToReg, while I'm not sure that's actually Ubuntu related... You would want to give .html the mime type of PHP.
[19:01] <BlueEagle> IHateHavingToReg: That is for apache configuraion file. However it is my recomendation that all script files be clearly labled as such.
[19:01] <IHateHavingToReg> BlueEagle I agree, the problem is I have an index.html that has PHP in it. I'm not sure if it's better to change the default to index.html or index.php, or just set up PHP to be run as type .html
[19:03] <walruscode> I'm sorry if I'm being impatient, but can anyone tell me how I can fix my issue with ubuntu not decrypting the file names of files in my home folder? I have found solutions to this issue online, but they seem to only be relevant when dealing with raw .Private folders (backups of home folders from other installations)
[19:03] <guntbert> IHateHavingToReg: use index.php
[19:03] <BlueEagle> IHateHavingToReg: I think renaming it to .php is the wisest. If you want to interpet .html you would need to alter /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf iirc
[19:04] <brett__> guntbert: any particular one?
[19:05] <IHateHavingToReg> actually that does work ...
[19:05] <IHateHavingToReg> somehow
[19:05] <IHateHavingToReg> thanks
[19:05] <guntbert> brett__: usually you find almost everything in /var/log/syslog
[19:06] <POVaddct> guntbert: you won't find anything in syslog if someone started a forkbomb
[19:07] <guntbert> POVaddct: not even a oom kill?
[19:08] <brett__> guntbert: is there a specific term I should filter for?
[19:08] <POVaddct> guntbert: if the syslog daemon manages to write it, then it will show up. but that is not guaranteed in a oom situation.
[19:08] <guntbert> POVaddct: and I try not to jump to conclusions
[19:09] <adam> So, what is the correct way to shutdown xorg these days? I think I'm using litedm with xubuntu...
[19:09] <guntbert> brett__: you know when it started to slow down significantly - look around and after that time
[19:09] <adam> the method I used to use doesn't seem to work anymore (sudo stop gdm)
[19:10] <escott> adam, service. sudo service
[19:10] <adam> thanks
[19:13] <randomusr_> How does one install DRLB packages on Ubuntu?
[19:16] <Lounge> !rules
[19:16] <nocturnal_> randomusr_: get the deb files from their website?
[19:17] <randomusr_> nocturnal_, I'm silly and can't find them. Could you paste a link?
[19:17] <Ironsight> drlb?
[19:18] <nocturnal_> randomusr_: i would if i wasn't on a server. just google drlb, first one is their website, click downloads and you'll go to sourceforge where you can find the deb
[19:23] <kalakouentin> hello, it seems I deleted libstdc++.so.6 in my system... How can I possible reinstall it?
[19:24] <kalakouentin> I actually still have libstdc++.so.6.0.13 working....
[19:26] <Lounge> kalakouentin: sudo atp-get install libstdc++6
[19:26] <Lounge> apt-get*
[19:26] <kalakouentin> Lounge, "apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: Error 40"
[19:27] <kalakouentin> I had tried that already.
[19:27] <zykotick9> Lounge: i'd guess they'll need "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libsdtdc++6" but it's just a guess
[19:27] <kalakouentin> zykotick9, sorry the --reinstall won't make it either...
[19:28] <zykotick9> kalakouentin: ummm, sorry...
[19:29] <kalakouentin> synaptic won't start either obviously..
[19:30] <kalakouentin> I just lost my desktop icons...
[19:32] <Jordan_U> kalakouentin: How did you delete this file?
[19:33] <escott> kalakouentin, its likely just a symlink you could relink it
[19:33] <kalakouentin> elegantly. I made a soft link to it, and then accidently I made a soft link from the soft link back to it.
[19:34] <kalakouentin> (I know it was an idiotic typo, I got confused at the moment)
[19:35] <klk> how do i start daemon tools i installed it with sudo apt-get install daemontools
[19:35] <Costanza> hello. i am trying to boot ubuntu from a usb stick in uefi mode but it says something like  "Error 'prefix' is not set" and then i press "try ubuntu...." but i only get a black screen
[19:36] <guntbert> klk: I guess they are just a collection of tools - so look in the package manager of your joice to see what files came with it
[19:37] <klk> iam using snowlinux
[19:37] <randomusr_> nocturnal_, could you tell me in lam-ens terms how to set up PXE on DRLB server and Clonezilla?
[19:37] <Jordan_U> klk: This channel only supports Ubuntu, not derivatives.
[19:38] <klk> what  is derivatives ?
[19:38] <Lounge> klk:  other than ubuntu
[19:38] <longbi> is there a way to build mobile apps (java) from linux? my OS is mint 11.
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> snowlinux is not even ubuntu based, it's debian
[19:38] <kalakouentin> woohoo! We got lift, I reinstalled libstdc++6_4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1_i386
[19:38] <kalakouentin> stuff seem to mostly work!
[19:38] <klk> ok what  is llinux snow  then ???
[19:39] <nocturnal_> randomusr_: i've never done it
[19:39] <Lounge> MonkeyDust: lol ubuntu is based on debian too
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> klk  type /join #snowlinux to find out
[19:40] <zykotick9> !mint | longbi
[19:40] <randomusr_> nocturnal_,  no worries. I think I need to mess with a few config files and some bash commands to build the images.
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> Lounge  very good, I know that
[19:41] <Lounge> !snowlinux
[19:41] <longbi> sorry i commented in the wrong room
[19:42] <Jordan_U> klk: It's not Ubuntu. If you want to know more about what it *is* you're still in the wrong channel as I'm guessing most people here (myself included) have never even heard of snow linux before.
[19:42] <Lounge> klk:  are you trying to mount an iso image?
[19:43] <klk> yes iam trying to mount
[19:43] <klk> Lounge,  but i cant find the file to start  the  program
[19:43] <klk> iam new at this
[19:43] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: snowlinux was certainly new to me http://www.snowlinux.de/ (seems to be 2 version, one based on debian the other ubuntu)
[19:43] <Lounge> it would be easier to just sudo losetup /dev/loop1 ~/image.iso
[19:43] <bekks> Lounge: Not needed.
[19:44] <Lounge> or just use mount
[19:44] <bekks> Lounge: sudo mount /dev/sr0 /your/mointpoint
[19:44] <Lounge> ^
[19:44] <Lounge> bekks: but its an image, /dev/sro isn't that the chrom drive?
[19:44] <Lounge> cdrom*
[19:44] <bekks> Lounge: And the other method would be sudo mount -o loop /your/file.iso /your/mountpoint
[19:45] <zykotick9> Lounge: /dev/sr0 not o
[19:45] <Lounge> zykotick9: that's odd, mine got set as /dev/sr0 for the cdrom drive :/
[19:45] <Lounge> in frtab
[19:45] <Lounge> fstab*
[19:45] <zykotick9> Lounge: that's correct?
[19:46] <bekks> Lounge: And whats odd at that point?
[19:46] <Lounge> because here i was just thinking of something else about /dev/sr0
[19:46] <Lounge> but then
[19:46] <Lounge> its all like nvm lol
[19:47] <jollynips> hey is there any way to recover files removed via the CLI (like you can when a file goes to the recycle bin)?
[19:48] <Jordan_U> jollynips: No.
[19:48] <Jordan_U> !undelete | jollynips
[19:49] <jollynips> bummer, oh well.
[19:49] <Jordan_U> jollynips: How important to you was what you deleted?
[19:49] <eutheria_> i am looking for an inbox notify app that sit in my sys tray
[19:51] <jollynips> Jordan_U: just an ubuntu iso i was seeding and deleted the wrong iso, it's no problem
[19:54] <Jordan_U> jolaren: As long as you keep seeding it, the file won't actually be deleted as there is still an active file handle :)
[19:54] <thechef> Is there a way to shorten the reaction speed of the dash to "immediately" after pressing the super-key?
[19:54] <guntbert> eutheria_: isn't that there already? the envelop icon?
[19:55] <guntbert> thechef: 0.5 seconds is too long for you?
[19:55] <eutheria_> guntbert, i am not using unity, i like my desktop to be response and not have a stupid side bar eating up huge amount of scree real estate
[19:55] <villev> is it just me, or does unity occasionally launch stuff on "other" workspaces?
[19:55] <villev> even w/o explicitly switching to such workspaces
[19:56] <eutheria_> also the envelope icon doesn't actually tell you there is an email for you unless you load thunderbird
[19:56] <malik_> hi all, how can i run sudo commands when there is  no password for the only user i have?
[19:56] <Lounge> since i've removed network-manager, anyone know of any good eth monitor applets that don't rely on nm?
[19:56] <eutheria_> i would rather not have to load thunderbird, just want to know if there is an email to read
[19:56] <villev> typical problem here is that I expect my apps to be alt-tabbable, but they aren't
[19:56] <guntbert> eutheria_: ok, what DE do you have?
[19:56] <eutheria_> guntbert, i installed cinnamon
[19:57] <guntbert> eutheria_: thts not ubuntu, is it?
[19:57] <eutheria_> i customised it with a few applets, so the task bar is similar to the one in windows 7 where you can pin apps
[19:57] <eutheria_> guntbert, i use ubuntu, i just don't use unity
[19:58] <guntbert> eutheria_: but there is no package "cinnamon"
[19:58] <eutheria_> guntbert, you can get it from a ppa
[19:58] <eutheria_> guntbert, you want the link?
[19:58] <guntbert> eutheria_: then plase ask the maintainer
[19:58] <guntbert> eutheria_: no need, thanks
[19:58] <OerHeks> thechef, system preferences > appearance > 2nd tab sets behaviour
[19:58] <eutheria_> guntbert, why would the DE be remotely interested in a sys tray mail app??
[19:59] <guntbert> eutheria_: because the "panel" is part of the DE?
[19:59] <eutheria_> i don't think you understand how these things work, apps != DE
[19:59] <eutheria_> guntbert, 90% of everything uses the systray still
[19:59] <eutheria_> even unity must have something for the systray else the skype icon would not show
[20:00] <eutheria_> also there are many many apps in the ubuntu distro
[20:00] <villev> eutheria_: i just googled something about "whitelisting" systray
[20:00] <eutheria_> i not interesting in the DE
[20:00] <eutheria_> i am looking for an mail app to tell me when there is email that sits in the systray
[20:01] <eutheria_> guntbert, if you don't know the answer, don't waste people's time talking about something not remotely relevant
[20:02] <OerHeks> eutheria_, cinnamon is a mint-thingy with its own problems.
[20:02] <eutheria_> OerHeks, who cares what i use?
[20:02] <eutheria_> unity also needs an notify system for email without having to load thunderbird
[20:03] <machicola> does anyone know how I would go about permanently setting my display brightness to a lower setting in Ubuntu 11.10 (gnome-2 fallback), I keep having to reset it for some odd reason.... it never maintains into the next session
[20:03] <eutheria_> i am sure they didn't purge out all apps that installed by default
[20:03] <nextum678> my java app hangs on I/O for about 30s for each file open operation (new FileInputStream()), I have verified this behavior on Ubuntu 12.04 64bit server, with OpenJDK, JRE 32bit and 64bit. If I am tracing the app with strace I get lot of futex_wait calls but nothing which looks obvious. Any ideas how to solve/debug the issue?
[20:05] <thechef> guntbert, yes absolutely, that's much higher than average in UIs (normal should be 20 to 50ms)
[20:05] <ceti311_> anyone know if ubuntu can detect 3 finger trackpad gestures on pc hardware
[20:05] <Jordan_U> ceti311_: Yes, it can.
[20:06] <vorphalack1> a
[20:07] <ceti311_> what would be ideal is 3 finger drag for windows, or 3 finger swipes to trigger expo/scale or shift between workspaces
[20:08] <ceti311_> Jordan_U: how does one enable 3 finger gesture detection
[20:08] <Jordan_U> ceti311_: I haven't tried to do it in years. Hopefully ubottu's factoid will be helpful though.
[20:08] <Jordan_U> !synaptics | ceti311_
[20:09] <thechef> OerHeks, can't find anything UI response related there.
[20:09] <roSievers> hi, is there a way to assign multiple shortcuts to one action? I'd like to change Workspaces with both the strg+alt+arrow and super+l,i,a,e.
[20:10] <thechef> Really weird. Is everyone else happy with that? Isn't it just eye cancer for any gamer out there?
[20:10] <thechef> A User Interface which doesn't react as fast as the HUD of q3a is not usable.
[20:10]  * Dr_Willis finds unity very useable...
[20:11] <sasser> there is any Counter Strike version game for Ubuntu system ?
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> but ve no idea what thechef  problem is...
[20:11] <pyfon> is there a way to fresh install current ubuntu laptop without any external devices?
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> sasser:  theres one or 2 but i forget its name.
[20:11] <OerHeks> thechef, what has eye cancer to do with you not looking at the right place? thanks for the rant!
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> pyfon:  you can set up grub2 to boot an ISO file from a disk parittion..
[20:12] <sasser> thanks Dr_Willis , I will google for some answers ;)
[20:12] <pyfon> gotcha, on my wits end with a wifi issue, just going to try to fresh install and start over
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> pyfon:  so you could put the iso on the windows partition or /boot/ partition. boot the iso and install from there. but you cant refromat the partion with the iso of course
[20:12] <thechef> OerHeks, if I translate correclty  I should look for "Darstellung" and then "Verhalten" right? (german)
[20:13] <DarkAceLaptop> glitsj16, remember me?
[20:14] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: pyfon: You can modify the partition / filesystem containing the iso file if you add the "toram" kernel parameter and delete the loop device after you've booted.
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:  wasent sure if 12.04 still has the toram option.  someone was having issues wit it in here the other day.
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> i just keep a /boot/ partition with iso files on it. :) for quick reinstalls.. or live cd testing
[20:15] <villev> nextum678: threads?
[20:15] <OerHeks> thechef, i'm on Dutch version, appearance - uiterlijk .. can't find the translation for german.
[20:15] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: hi, i believe i do yes
[20:16] <DarkAceLaptop> Well, I got the error.
[20:16] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: It does, but it doesn't tie up lose ends properly. It keeps the loopback device for the iso file even after it's no longer needed, which keeps the filesystem containing the iso file "in use". A quick "losetup -d" of the right device solves that though.
[20:16] <DarkAceLaptop> glitsj16, "Aborted (core dumped)"
[20:16] <ludlow> !dropbox
[20:16] <ludlow> !var
[20:16] <ludlow> !ubuntu
[20:16] <nextum678> villev: what do you mean with threads?
[20:16] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: please refresh my sluggish memory cell :)
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> !fishing
[20:17] <nextum678> villev: its a single threaded app
[20:17] <ludlow> brb
[20:17] <DarkAceLaptop> Chromium keeps crashing for no reason. Happens after a certain amount of time, but the more tabs open, less time until it crashes, glitsj16
[20:19] <klk> ja du vidste det  luk dog røven mand
[20:19] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: ah yes, now i remember .. you use the chromium-browser version from precise 12.04?
[20:19] <klk>  somom du selv  gad komme hvis jeg sad og  sktrev sådan til dig
[20:19] <DarkAceLaptop> Yes, glitsj16
[20:20] <OerHeks> !dk | klk
[20:20] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: any errors thrown when that happens?
[20:21] <DarkAceLaptop> When what happens? Crashes? "Aborted (core dumped)" is all it says.
[20:21] <DarkAceLaptop> glitsj16, ^
[20:21] <OerHeks> DarkAceLaptop, what plugins did you install in chromium?
[20:22] <zkosty> hello; is the installation file ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso the only 64-bit version I can install on my desktop, even if I have an Intel CPU ?
[20:22] <stopbit> Any one know of a good c++ channel
[20:22] <thatguymeho> i am running a live distro of ubuntu i would like to access a windows partition so i can retreave and iso file
[20:22] <klk> OerHeks,  sorry i wass away
[20:22] <klk> thx for the help  but ill begoing now
[20:23] <thatguymeho> zkosty i dont think amd reffaires to the processor
[20:23] <OerHeks> zkosty, amd64 is same as intel64.
[20:23] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: what you're describing about # of open tabs smells like possible flash issues or some conflicting configuration you might be using (check the about:flags)
[20:23] <Lounge> thatguymeho: you know where your windows partition is? is it in the sda?
[20:23] <thatguymeho> Launge what you talking about
[20:23] <DarkAceLaptop> I usually have about 5 tabs open.
[20:23] <zkosty> OK, thx; just for curiousity, what does  "amd" refer to, here ?
[20:23] <DarkAceLaptop> And it just crashed again with 2 tabs.
[20:24] <thatguymeho> Launge
[20:24] <thatguymeho> Launge SDA??
[20:25] <Lounge> thatguymeho: i thought you asked about how to mount a windows partition in s live ubuntu
[20:25] <thatguymeho> well i need to access it yes
[20:25] <thatguymeho> i am useing ubuntu live only to retreave an iso
[20:25] <Leif_Bork> Hello, I have a mount that starts on startup and hangs. It hinders me from shutting down, I can't kill it
[20:25] <Lounge> you have 1 hdd?
[20:25] <Leif_Bork> It's not in fstab
[20:26] <thatguymeho> yes
[20:26] <zykotick9> zkosty: amd developed the 32/64 bit cpu, and thus got to name it amd64
[20:26] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: have you tried with a clean profile to reproduce the issue yet? ~/.config/chromium (make a backup before testing)
[20:26] <Lounge> is it windows 7?
[20:26] <SkippersBoss> zkosty, it looks like intel have adopted amd's instruction set
[20:26] <thatguymeho> yes
[20:26] <Lounge> the reason i ask is because win 7 creates a sys reserve partition
[20:26] <thatguymeho> i kinda knew that
[20:27] <Lounge> its more likely /dev/sda2 your windows 7
[20:27] <thatguymeho> there is actually 3 partitions
[20:27] <pyfon> hey guys, used ndiswrapper method to install xp driver for my netbook. Still Wireless Networks doesn't show up in toolbar dropdown, any help?
[20:27] <thatguymeho> the researve the windoiws one and the one i need to access
[20:27] <Lounge> if i'm correct then sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[20:27] <OerHeks> zkosty, short: AMD64 was created as an alternative to the radically different IA-64 architecture, adding 64-bit computing capabilities to x86 instead of a entirely new 64-bit architecture with IA-64.
[20:27] <OerHeks> so they won
[20:27] <thatguymeho> oki i will try
[20:27] <zkosty> I see - thank you everybody.
[20:27] <Lounge> thatguymeho:  if thats not it then try /dev/sda3
[20:28] <zkosty> bye
[20:28] <divadgnol67> @pyfon, Do you know how to connect via the command line?
[20:28] <pyfon> I do not
[20:29] <DarkAceLaptop> glitsj16, would chromium-browser --temp-profile work?
[20:29] <bekks> divadgnol67: Connect which from where to what?
[20:29] <pyfon> wcid doesn't show any wireless networks either, so I think it's an issue with the netbook recognizing the driver
[20:29] <divadgnol67> what make wifi card do you have
[20:29] <Lounge> thatguymeho: but if you don't wanna have to use sudo, i'd create a directory in home like  mkdir ~/mswin and then mount it there
[20:30] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: i believe so, i'll refresh my chromium-browser params in the mean time, bit rusty
[20:30] <pyfon> @divadgnol67 : Atheros AR2427
[20:30] <thatguymeho> Launge i tried to do the sude mount but it did not find anythinf
[20:31] <thatguymeho> it says special device not found
[20:31] <IdleOne> !tab | thatguymeho
[20:31] <divadgnol67> @pyfon, what happens when you issue ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:32] <pyfon> typed: "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" and nothing ahppened, just to the next prompt
[20:32] <drone_12345> how can i delete icons from shell menu if they are not listed under #main menu'?
[20:32] <divadgnol67> iwlist wlan0 scan
[20:33] <pyfon> failed to read scan data: operation not supported
[20:34] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: i don't see that --temp-profile on http://peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/ though .. did that actually work?
[20:34] <DarkAceLaptop> glitsj16, try chromium-browser --help
[20:35] <DarkAceLaptop> It shows it there.
[20:35] <divadgnol67> just for giggles give me the output of lspci | grep network
[20:35] <inashdeen> hi, can someone guide me how to do this. please. I am a real noob on bash, it is so easy when doing manually. i need to learn how to replace </layoutList> in here http://pastebin.com/41QZR7H2 into this whole script : http://pastebin.com/kU2sNuyK the position of </layoutList> is variable
[20:35] <inashdeen> using bash
[20:36] <villev> inashdeen: forget bash and use something like python
[20:36] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: thanks, will try and report back .. but without a view on your about:flags configuration it's hard to debug what might be going on
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> inashdeen  better ask in #bash
[20:37] <villev> "foo".replace("o", "jesus")
[20:37] <inashdeen> villev : i need to run it in debconf. can we use python for that?
[20:37] <villev> python-minimal is guaranteed to be there i think?
[20:38] <inashdeen> villev: it is a multiline text. can it work with python?
[20:38] <villev> inashdeen: sure, newcont = open("oldcont.txt").read().replace("o", "jesus")
[20:38] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: that should indeed give you some idea whether it's profile related .. i'd give it a try
[20:38] <Kaizen> anyone know why a cron script would work fine restarting apache when it fails but won't restart mysql when it fails?
[20:39] <Leif_Bork> udev tries to mount a disk I don't want it to mount, and the mount hangs
[20:39] <pyfon> @divadgnol67 using lspci |grep Network I get: 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2427 802.11bg Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Expres) (rev 01)
[20:39] <divadgnol67> ok, thanks.
[20:40] <Torankusu> :)
[20:40] <pyfon> Wifi was working for a bit, until I closed the laptop - since then I havn't been able to get it working again
[20:41] <inashdeen> villev: i have never used python before, and eh.. it gimme error : http://pastebin.com/01R8fZS7
[20:41] <divadgnol67> @pyfon, you are sure about that. when did you close the lid? today?
[20:41] <DarkAceLaptop> Prerender from omnibox, automatic | Aggressive history URL scoring, automatic | glitsj16
[20:42] <pyfon> yes, this has been a reoccuring issue - I'll try some things to get it working, i'll restart - it'll work for a bit but as soon as I close the lid or restart it won't even pick anything up
[20:42] <villev> inashdeen: your line was clipped
[20:42] <pyfon> I founds found something that might combat that issue and keep it working when I reopen the computer, but I have to get the wifi to work first to even try it
[20:42] <divadgnol67> @pyfon support for this card is being treated as a bug (I believe) but there is a patched kernel the offers a temp fix
[20:42] <villev> inashdeen: if you want your replacement text to have newlines, add \n chars accordingly
[20:43] <Womkes> Does anybody know why I only get the wallpaper when I try to grab a screenshot from my Ubuntu Desktop?
[20:43] <Womkes> I can't see any windows or anything
[20:43] <Womkes> just my background
[20:43] <pyfon> @divadgnol67 that makes me a feel a tad better, is there any documentation on how I can get this patch?
[20:43] <villev> inashdeen: or use """ to signify multiline string literal
[20:43] <villev> inashdeen: easier to put it in a separate file (myscript.py) and run that
[20:43] <inashdeen> villed: I did that with bash too, I actually found a way to replace them using awk. problem is, i don't know which and how to \n it. plus, i am using ""
[20:44] <villev> inashdeen: three " chars, """
[20:44] <inashdeen> villev: actually, i want to run it in a separate file. could you guide me how to do it.
[20:44] <villev> inashdeen: guide? just create something like myscript.py where you put the code
[20:45] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: thanks, omnibox settings should be fine .. same issue(s) reproducing with temp profile?
[20:45] <inashdeen> villev: ok, and then?
[20:45] <villev> inashdeen: enter your script code there :). Not sure what the problematic part here is
[20:45] <inashdeen> villev: I am totally noob to python. how to replace the </layoutlist> on say house.py
[20:46] <DarkAceLaptop> glitsj16, I'll try in a moment
[20:46] <divadgnol67> @pyfon goto ://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-backports-modules-2.6.32/+bug/521967 precede with https:
[20:46] <villev> "foo".replace("o", "jesus")
[20:46] <villev> or
[20:46] <villev> replacement = """
[20:46] <villev> my
[20:46] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: you can also open the wrench menu > view background pages to keep an eye on it
[20:47] <villev> multiline
[20:47] <villev> text"""
[20:47] <villev> "foo".replace(o, replacement)
[20:47] <villev> ask on #python if problems remain (to avoid spamming this general purpose channel)
[20:47] <elspuddy> question, how do i find out what hard ware im running ?
[20:48] <k1l> elspuddy: "lshw" in terminal
[20:49] <HelloWorld321> can you add a group within another group?
[20:49] <pyfon> @divadgnol67 I'm here //launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/1123757/+listing-archive-extra (https:) what am I looking for here to install? new to installing kernals
[20:49] <elspuddy> thanks k1l  :)
[20:52] <divadgnol67> @pyfon, sorry this may indeed be a bit arduous if your not comfortable operating from a shell but let me look into for a moment or two.
[20:52] <sheap> can anyone help with apache/html stuff?
[20:52] <pyfon> I'm very comfortable working in shell, just never updated a kernal before
[20:53] <pyfon> do I just find the .deb and sudo grub-update?
[20:53] <k1l> pyfon: you mean kernel from the repos?
[20:54] <pyfon> @k1l for a patched kernal (@divadgnol67 found one on a webpage that might solve my wifi issues)
[20:55] <rhizmoe> is it possible to create a new nautilus instance on the current workspace if there's already one on another workspace?
[20:57] <Lounge> i think i found an issue with ubuntu software center, that the "install" button is always greyed out because it thinks it's not connected to the internet, as if its relying on network-manager to say its connected
[20:57] <k1l> pyfon: you are sure you need a new/another kernel for that? changing the kernel will mean to not get any kernel updates etc automatically from that point
[20:57] <pyfon> @k1l, ive tried everything else, pretty desperate at this point to get wifi working
[20:57] <Lounge> but since i removed nm it seem ubuntu software center won't let me install anything
[20:58] <Lounge> is there a way to force usc to connect?
[20:58] <k1l> pyfon: but basically your mentioned way should work
[20:59] <DarkAceLaptop> Ugh, you know when something crashes all the time, but then when you want it to, it doesn't?
[20:59] <sheap>  I have an apache server. It uses 192.168.x.xx. When I start it in my browser it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/nhA7p.png. but when I open index.html from the /var/www/ directory, it looks like this. http://i.imgur.com/TkowY.png. is it something I have to change with apache?
[21:00] <k1l> rhizmoe: tried to click with the middle mouse button onto the nautilus icon in the starter?
[21:01] <Lounge> ok nvm looks like its a confirmed bug
[21:01] <Lounge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/911706
[21:01] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: heh, yes .. look into one of the --crash- params to force a crash
[21:01] <DarkAceLaptop> :P
[21:02] <Lounge> just gonna use gdebi for now
[21:02] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: or it was indeed a corrupted profile and the issue is gone .. wouldn't that be nice ;à
[21:02] <DarkAceLaptop> :P
[21:04] <glitsj16> Lounge: gdebi works fine, but synaptic might be another option if you haven't tried that yet
[21:05] <theborger> some one point me to a readme on why /etc/resolv.conf have Dynamic resolv.conf file for blibc resolver generated by resolvconf ? i need static dnses
[21:06] <th0r> theborger, I was just searching for that same information
[21:08] <Lounge> theborger:sudo gedit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[21:08] <divadgnol67> @pyfon, I am unable to locate another option. Downloading driver and recompiling kernel may be only option
[21:08] <Lounge> and comment out dns=dnsmasq
[21:10] <th0r> Lounge, then do I define the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf as it used to be?
[21:11] <Lounge> wait
[21:12] <Lounge> th0r: sudo gedit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf and uncomment prepend domain-name-servers
[21:12] <Lounge> i use google's dns addresses
[21:12] <k1l> Lounge: dont use sudo with gui programms
[21:12] <Lounge> so mine is prepend domain-name-servers
[21:13] <k1l> Lounge: use gksu instead
[21:13] <th0r> Lounge, is that in addition to the edit you mentioned earlier, or in place of it?
[21:13] <Lounge> will gksu is better if you wanna free up the terminal true that but i never do that lol
[21:13] <zykotick9> does anyone know what DE/WM sheap is using in http://i.imgur.com/TkowY.png ?
[21:13] <Lounge> how about sudo nano
[21:14] <k1l> Lounge: if you start everything with sudo it kills your right-management
[21:14] <r15> i am facing an issue with making a dual boot, came with a new laptop windows 7 pre-installed which is having Dynamic disk.
[21:14] <Lounge> th0r just use gksu on gedit then
[21:14] <th0r> jeez....a tempest in a teapot
[21:14] <k1l> Lounge: nano is a cli programm, no gui programm. that is the difference
[21:15] <zykotick9> !gksudo | Lounge
[21:15] <Lounge> ok so, you can add your dns in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:15] <r15> ubuntu installer can handle dynamic disk of windows 7?
[21:15] <th0r> Lounge, thanks.
[21:15] <k1l> thx zykotick9 im not used to the bot here.
[21:15] <Lounge> but i'd add the dns addresses in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[21:15] <DarkAceLaptop> OK!
[21:16] <DarkAceLaptop> glitsj16, same on temp profile.
[21:16] <Lounge> so it'll keep them in the resolv.conf
[21:16] <Lounge> after that do sudo restart network-manager
[21:16] <th0r> Lounge, think I will dump network mangler in favour of wicd. If I recall correctly it allows me to define the dns servers there
[21:17] <DarkAceLaptop> Could it be that I'm running U12 from an exeTREMELY slow flash drive? glitsj16
[21:17] <Lounge> th0r its because other apps can fight each other constanly changing the resolv.conf
[21:18] <Lounge> its why i alwasy put them in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[21:18] <th0r> Lounge, yeah. I long for the good old days when the only app accessing resolv.conf was me
[21:18] <Lounge> to prevent that
[21:18] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: irritating indeed .. still wondering if that temp switch started your chromium with/without any of your extensions
[21:18] <divadgnol67> @pyfon There is some really good documentation out there on compiling custom kernels. After you do it a few times its actually easy. I ran Gentoo and Crux for years so its something you get used to doind. Plus you will learn alot along the way
[21:18] <diamond> how do i hook up my hdmi cable so i can view my laptop desktop on my hdmi tv?
[21:22] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: an extremely slow flash drive as cause .. no clue really, that looks trouble for any app, not only chromium-browser ;)
[21:22] <Lunar_Lander> hello I just wanted to install CadSoft EAGLE and now it says that it is missing libpng14.so.14 and I can't get that via sudo apt-get install
[21:23] <DarkAceLaptop> But why would it crash? It should just freeze for a bit, then continue working after it's read/written
[21:23] <IveBeenBit> I'm ready to give Ubuntu a try. Anyone want to entertain some questions about options for installing?
[21:25] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: correct, that's why i keep on suspecting a buggy extension .. and i do realize that enabling/disabling each of those takes some time .. i take it you already tried playing extension detective?
[21:25] <DarkAceLaptop> Um, no, er, what? :P
[21:25] <k1l> IveBeenBit: ask away
[21:26] <IveBeenBit> THey should be quickies - I have a Windows 7 machine right now...just built it. The system hard drive has a ton of extra space. Would I be able to partition the drive, and put ubuntu on its own partition? I'd like to try running a "pure" copy of it and not one that's intermingled with the windows disk
[21:27] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: that was unclear sorry .. rephrasing .. did you test your chromium-browser while disabling extensions yet? 'detective' refered to taking that time-consuming procedure with each extension (or groups of them)
[21:28] <k1l> IveBeenBit: yes. you should give ubuntu its own partitions. maybe 3 for /, /home and swap
[21:29] <Guest8685> hi
[21:29] <IveBeenBit> really? that many partitions? OK. Well I am working with a 600 GB hard drive. I want to keep about 300GB for Windows. How should I chop up the remaining 300GB for Ubuntu?
[21:29] <OerHeks> IveBeenBit, sure, side-by-side
[21:30] <k1l> IveBeenBit: you can consider another extra data partition for sharing data. because the windows cant read the linux partitions
[21:31] <IveBeenBit> So how many total partitions for Ubuntu then? 3 or 4?
[21:32] <k1l> IveBeenBit: swap = ram size. / for the system anythinge between 7GB and 15GB. alot for /home (where all the userdata goes to) and then the data partition (ntfs) for the stuff that you need on both systems
[21:32] <SkippersBoss> k1l. but ubuntu CAN read your windows partition
[21:32] <gccster> guys i have this problem i have a linux server and some times it gets memory exhausted but i've got cron setted up to restart apache periodically so it gets back to life but some times the file system gets read only mounted after memory exhaust is that normal?
[21:32] <SkippersBoss> IveBeenbit, 3 part is enough
[21:33] <klk> hi people
[21:33] <k1l> SkippersBoss: yes.
[21:33] <IveBeenBit> OK cool...the NTFS partition is for stuff that I'd want to access from Windos as well, correct? If so, can I just mount my windows partition, and give only 2 partitions just to ubuntu?
[21:33] <psusi> gccster, no... check /var/log/kern.log... serious errors ( failing disk? ) make the fs go ro
[21:33] <klk> do i need to defrag  my harddrive in snowlinux  ubuntu and how if yes
[21:34] <k1l> klk: ask the snowlinux support.
[21:34] <psusi> klk, nope
[21:34] <klk> ok
[21:34] <SkippersBoss> ki1, Ivebeenbit can use his WIndowspartition to store stuff for both
[21:34] <Ang3> hey !!
[21:34] <klk> why is that  i men windows does fragment s  and  ubuntu dosent ??
[21:34] <k1l> IveBeenBit: you can use the / and /home in one partition.
[21:34] <ronrom> how can i change gnome fonts using cli?
[21:35] <psusi> klk, because windows is programmed by idiots? ;)
[21:35] <klk> psusi, u can say  that again
[21:35] <gunz4Mipple> are nvidia drivers still messed up\
[21:35] <ronrom> whats the app i need to run to chang gnome fonts?
[21:36] <SkippersBoss> k1l: that is not advisable having both /  and /home on the same partition
[21:36] <k1l> SkippersBoss: that is right. but why not sort data and system stuff?
[21:36] <IveBeenBit> k1l thanks
[21:36] <k1l> SkippersBoss: /home is included in /.
[21:36] <SkippersBoss> Why create too much partitions
[21:36] <gccster> psusi, http://pastebin.com/tHa0wMrm
[21:36] <k1l> if you dont choose to make a seperate /home you have it included
[21:36] <th0r> Lounge, just found this.....http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/network-internet/434507-how-enable-static-dns-address-mobile-broadband-kde-network-manager.html
[21:36] <klk> you should rather have a hd for each partition .. 1 partition on each
[21:37] <zykotick9> SkippersBoss: really?  i prefer simplicity for most things - and doubt a separate home is helpful in many situations (some for sure)
[21:37] <th0r> Lounge, apparently you can set static dns in network mangler now
[21:37] <daze> is there a way to make program icons in Unity tray perform some default action on mouse left click instead of displaying a menu (as they do on right click; currently both clicks do the same)?
[21:38] <IveBeenBit> OK so....I have 600 GB total. 1 partition: 300 GB will go to Windows. 2nd partition: 15 GB for Ubuntu swap disk. 3rd partition: 285 GB for Ubuntu. Is that right?
[21:38] <psusi> 15gb is a little excessive for swap
[21:38] <SkippersBoss> zykotick9, upgrading or reinstalling becomes less messy. but that's just my opnion
[21:38] <k1l> IveBeenBit: you have 15gb ram?
[21:38] <klk> i just  upgraded  my ati driver and  it runs like hell ,, is  ther a way  to remove that crippled ati driver
[21:38] <IveBeenBit> no
[21:38] <IveBeenBit> I have 8GB RAM
[21:39] <k1l> IveBeenBit: then make swap = 8gb . its swap = ram
[21:39] <aaustin> too much swap
[21:39] <haz3lnut> IveBeenBit: use about 20 gb for / and the rest for /home
[21:39] <zykotick9> SkippersBoss: resinstalling (i'd agree), but upgrading with config files in /home can actually cause issues (so i question that logic)
[21:39] <psusi> IveBeenBit, I have 4 and never bother with swap... if you do bother, 4 or 8 is more than enoguh
[21:39] <k1l> IveBeenBit: you only need swap for suspend2disk
[21:40] <IveBeenBit> OK nice. I will just use 8 GB. it's not much I'll never miss it even if it's excessive. ;)
[21:40] <klk> kll thats not true  is it ,,, u also need swap when running out  of ram right
[21:40] <gccster> when the system remounts as read only is it possible to call remount with fstab settings?
[21:40] <klk> or is that also a windows thing
[21:40] <SkippersBoss> those issues can be really easily sorted out with the help of google
[21:40] <psusi> and there really is no reason to have a separate /home... you can reinstall just fine without a separate /home... just don't tick th eformat box if you want to keep your data
[21:41] <psusi> klk, yes, if you want to use more ram than you have... but disk is so much slower than ram that if you really need to do any significant swapping these days, the system is going to slow to an unacceptable crawl
[21:41] <IveBeenBit> last question - should I get 64 or 32 bit version of ubuntu? I have an intel i.5 processor (64 bit)
[21:41] <k1l> if your system needs swap performance is slowed down anyway.
[21:41] <IamHurT> yes i know that but that  wasnt  the question
[21:41] <psusi> IveBeenBit, 64
[21:41] <k1l> IveBeenBit: why 32bit? :)
[21:41] <zykotick9> psusi: +1 on you swap statement
[21:42] <IamHurT> the harddrives  will always be the bottleneck
[21:42] <IveBeenBit> On the download page it says "Recommended" next to the 32 bit version.
[21:42] <IamHurT> but still thats where the swap goes   we need ram drives
[21:42] <k1l> IveBeenBit: yes. because there are still some only 32bit cpus out there. so its a 100% that 32bit runs.
[21:43] <IveBeenBit> OK great. will DL the 64 bit version.
[21:43] <IveBeenBit> thanks everyone for all the help
[21:44] <klk> how can i repair my disk for bad sectors ????????
[21:44] <psusi> I could have sworn they changed the recommended to 64 bit for 12.04
[21:44] <zykotick9> psusi: that was voted down
[21:44] <psusi> ahh
[21:45] <IveBeenBit> should I partition the drive in windows before I start the ubuntu install, or do it with ubintu?
[21:45] <klk> just  boot  up from  the cd  or  make  usb flash dri ve
[21:45] <psusi> klk, you can try writing to the bad sector... either that will fix the problem, or the drive will relocate that sector to another part of the disk, or it will just fail, in which case, it's time to replace the drive
[21:45] <OerHeks> IveBeenBit, let win7 decrease the partition, as the install guide says.
[21:45] <IveBeenBit> :-)
[21:46] <klk> psusi,  ok how do i know wher  it  is and  how do i write to it
[21:46] <IveBeenBit> OK I will go read the install guide while this thing downloads. ;-) Thanks again for the help./
[21:46] <newbeggar> hello, anyone active who wants to help? I'm using a macbook pro to install ubuntu onto a USB HDD. I've gotten the ISO file onto the external HDD, but neither "install" or "try before installing" gets beyond a black screen/white blinking line.
[21:46] <psusi> klk, you can check the SMART status in the disk utility... run a long self test
[21:46] <klk> psusi, thx
[21:46] <klk> :D
[21:47] <OerHeks> !mac
[21:47] <newbeggar> thanks, i tried there and my specific question wasn't answered. Thus I am here.
[21:48] <newbeggar> I've gotten as far as being prompted to either try it out or install it, and then it just dies on me.
[21:48] <OerHeks> newbeggar, it depends on your model, i do not own a mac myself
[21:48] <ronrom> im running kde but the gnome apps appear with too big fonts and running "kcmshell4 kcmgtk" and enable gtk apps to use kde fonts isnt doing any changes, any help?
[21:49] <Jagst3r15> i notice that my laptop overheat with ubuntu and not windows7
[21:50] <Jagst3r15> i only have ubuntu on it now
[21:50] <newbeggar> so , lets assume I were just installing onto an external HDD, regardless of what machine i'm using... what would cause it to fail to install or boot after the initial prompt?
[21:50] <OerHeks> Jagst3r15, did you setup lmsensors?
[21:50] <Jagst3r15> no sir
[21:50] <Jagst3r15> where do i get them?
[21:50] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[21:51] <Jagst3r15> thanks so much
[21:51] <sugarwater> need some help with connecting two computers over a network cable...
[21:51] <OerHeks> the installer is just hitting yes & enter
[21:51] <sugarwater> i have been googling for hours and cannot accomplish it...
[21:51] <OerHeks> !ics
[21:52] <sugarwater> both computers run ubuntu
[21:52] <OerHeks> or peer-to-peer?
[21:53] <sugarwater> OerHeks, not p2p just a mini-lan..
[21:53] <sugarwater> I followed the solution of this question (closes I could find on the subject) http://askubuntu.com/questions/22835/networking-2-ubuntu-computers
[21:54] <sugarwater> but I still can't ping the other computer
[21:54] <klk> psusi, hmm i thin kmy drive  is  slowley  dying
[21:54] <sugarwater> OerHeks, not ics
[21:56] <zykotick9> sugarwater: are the computer directly connected?  you probably need a cross-over cable if that's the case.
[21:57] <Loshki> klk: what make/model of disk, connected how e.g. sata/ide/usb...
[21:57] <klk> Loshki,  its sata
[21:57] <Jagst3r15> omg
[21:57] <Jagst3r15> 58 degrees c
[21:59] <apwbdjp> Jagst3r15, not so bad, nothing to worry about
[22:00] <Jagst3r15> never that hot on win 7 tho
[22:00] <wifiman> hi, i'm unable to get HDMI audio working on a R6xx; aplay opens the device but sends audio way too fast and i hear nothing; toggling the HDMI card's S/PDIF playback control in alsamixer has no effect
[22:00] <Loshki> klk: you can try control center->hardware->disk utility and look at the SMART data. Alternatively, if you know the manufacturer of your disk, they often have diagnostic programs you can download that are brand-specific....
[22:00] <klk> Loshki,  ok thX mate
[22:01] <Jagst3r15> apwbdjp wat is a bad temp?
[22:02] <apwbdjp> Jagst3r15, sensor should tell you approximately what's critical for a processor
[22:02] <adsd> http://elikr.zeekler.com/splash/
[22:03] <klk> Loshki, hjjj
[22:03] <klk> iiiiiiytyiyityi
[22:03] <apwbdjp> Jagst3r15, above 60 the fans start speeding up, to me that's just heavy workload, above 70 I start finding it abnormal and I decide to clean it up soon, above 80 I start worrying
[22:03] <Loshki> klk: ?
[22:04] <klk> Loshki, its an ata drive but how do i determine the manufactor
[22:04] <Benkinooby2> hi i want to install 0 A.D. on my ubuntu 11 but i can't find the needed nvidia-texture-tools packages :( what's the name for it in ubuntu 11?
[22:04] <Benkinooby2> for ubuntu 12 its libnvtt
[22:04] <Benkinooby2> !libnvtt
[22:04] <Benkinooby2> !libnvtt-dev
[22:05] <Jagst3r15> im using xsensor app thing from the software center apwbdjp
[22:05] <Loshki> klk: either look physically at the disk, or run something like: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda (note: your disk may have a different name)
[22:05] <apwbdjp> Jagst3r15, open up a terminal a type sensors, it should give you the same info
[22:06] <klk> loshi ok 2 sec ill try that
[22:07] <Loshki> klk: also, the disk utility will tell you the model/serial and you can google from that...
[22:07] <Jagst3r15> apwbdjp it says high is 100 critical is 110
[22:08] <apwbdjp> Jagst3r15, I don't know where Sensors gets those estimates, but that's when it alerts you
[22:08] <sp33drac3r> Hi can someone pls tell me where the blacklist file is so i can turn off the pc speaker
[22:09] <Garm> <<<< newbie ;) i just installed ubuntu 11.04 (ithink) and i cant get the wlan to work, any tips on that?
[22:09] <Jagst3r15> apwbdjp i also see that it says my graphic driver is unknown
[22:10] <wifiman> sp33drac3r: to prevent it from loading:  echo blacklist pcspkr | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-pcspkr.conf
[22:10] <Jagst3r15> i think it is working but dunno y it says unknown
[22:10] <Garm> join #ubuntu-se
[22:10] <apwbdjp> Jagst3r15, not the driver, actually, it just couldn't fetch the gpu temperature
[22:10] <klk> Loshki,  hmm i get  nothing  wirh  manufactor
[22:10] <klk> with
[22:11] <sp33drac3r> thanks wifiman!
[22:11] <Jagst3r15> apwbdjp sorry i meant for  system settings > details
[22:11] <Loshki> klk: does it show model and serial number? If so, what are they?
[22:11] <Jagst3r15> im tryin to figure out this, nothing to do with the temp issue
[22:12] <apwbdjp> Jagst3r15, there I can't help you, I don't even know what tool that is, I'm using lxde, sorry
[22:12] <klk> loshi model number ST9320310AS
[22:13] <klk> SERIAL NUMBER 5WV09V39
[22:13] <klk> Loshki,  SERIAL NUMBER 5WV09V39
[22:14] <Loshki> klk: accorging to google, you have a SeagSeagate Momentus 5400.7 ST9320310AS SATA 3Gb/s 320GB 5400rpm disk. Now what does 'disk utility' say about it?ate Momentus 5400.7 ST9320310AS SATA 3Gb/s 320GB 5400rpm
[22:15] <Loshki> klk: oops. 2nd try. So what does 'disk utility' have to say about it?
[22:16] <klk> Loshki, 320 gb  rotation rate 5799 rpm ???
[22:16] <klk> loshi conection ATA
[22:17] <Loshki> klk: close enough. Now answer the question:  Can you run 'disk utility'? What does it say about this disk?
[22:18] <rodayo> My apt-get stopped working since I tried to install ruby-rvm. Each time I try to install something it tries to resolve the ruby-rvm thing and fails. Is there a way to just remove rvm from it's "queue"?
[22:20] <zykotick9> rodayo: you might want to post the output from "sudo apt-get -f install"
[22:21] <rodayo> "dpkg-statoverride: error: syntax error: unknown group 'admin' in statoverride file       dpkg: error processing ruby-rvm (--configure):       subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2"
[22:22] <klk> loshi ?
[22:22] <klk> Loshki,  ??
[22:22] <zykotick9> rodayo: mixing repos?  ppas?  admin group doesn't exist in 12.04
[22:22] <c_smith>  Hello, I am running Ubuntu One on Ubuntu 12.04. and I was setting it up and it crashed, I reopened it and it looks like it saved all the configuration before it crashed, but I can't add any new folders. is there anything I can try to try and fix this?
[22:22] <Loshki> klk: I'm still here, waiting for your answers to my questions...
[22:22] <Lounge> rodayo: try adding the admin group: sudo addgroup admin
[22:23]  * c_smith hopes someone here can help with that here
[22:23] <zykotick9> c_smith: you might wand to try the #ubuntu-one channel?
[22:23] <Lounge> and then add your user name to it
[22:23] <rodayo> zykotick9, i don't think so...I just did a 'sudo apt-get install ruby-rvm"
[22:23] <c_smith> zybiski, do you mean #ubuntuone?
[22:23] <zykotick9> c_smith: maybe?  sorry.
[22:23] <Lounge> sudo adduser $(whoami) admin
[22:23] <rhizmoe> k1l: thanks. that was supremely unintuitive. :/
[22:23] <rodayo> Lounge, that seems to have done the trick =)
[22:24] <c_smith> zykotick9, if you do, I'm there.
[22:24] <zykotick9> Lounge: admin group doesn't exist in 12.04
[22:24] <klk> Loshki,  320 gb hd rortatin rate 5799 rpm  connection ATA   firmware version 0001sd1m world wide name 0x5000c5002a91220e
[22:24] <Lounge> zykotick9: thats why people are in here complaining of problems
[22:24] <Lounge> lol
[22:24] <Loshki> klk: yeah, we're past the now. Next I want to know if you can run 'disk utility'....
[22:24] <klk> Loshki, model ata st9320310as
[22:24] <k1l> rhizmoe: like you open a new tab in a browser :)
[22:25] <klk> i cant do the smart data
[22:25] <zykotick9> rodayo: could you pastebin the output from "apt-cache policy ruby-rvm"
[22:26] <Lounge> zykotick9: if i'm correct, ubuntu uses adm instead right?
[22:26] <zykotick9> Lounge: no!  sudo
[22:26] <Loshki> klk: why not? I'm pretty sure that drive supports it...
[22:26] <rodayo> http://pastie.org/4145074
[22:26] <Lounge> zykotick9: no the group: adm instead of admin
[22:26] <zykotick9> Lounge: no - the group is called "sudo"
[22:27] <Lounge> ok
[22:27] <zykotick9> rodayo: that's a precise package?  perhaps it's a bug - you should search on launchpad for something related
[22:28] <rodayo> zykotick9, well...the problem's fixed now so... =P
[22:29] <rodayo> and yeah, I'm running 12.04. Btw, since I'm here, anyone know a quick command for ripping the audio from a .mp4 file using avconv?
[22:30] <zykotick9> rodayo: to "rip" audio i use mplayer - "mplayer -ao pcm -vo null foo.mp4" will create a wav that you can then encode to you desired format.
[22:31] <rodayo> zykotick9, awesome! I can't take it from there, thanks
[22:31] <wifiman> ffmpeg -acodec copy -vn input.mp4 output.mp4
[22:33] <rodayo> wifiman, actually with that you get a warning message telling you to use avconv instead, which is why i asked about that
[22:33] <rodayo> dono if it still works with ffmpeg....
[22:33] <wifiman> ah, that must be a libav thing…
[22:34] <wifiman> nvm i'm just out-of-date
[22:35] <Garm> anyone that could help me get my wlan in working order? i guess i dont have the right drivers for it <<<< newbie
[22:36] <Khrizoto> Hello
[22:37] <neodemi> has anyone encountered problems using ctrl-alt-del or ctrl-alt-l in natty
[22:37] <zykotick9> Garm: what wireless adapter is it?  is it usb or pci?  "lspci | grep -i network" might show you if it's pci
[22:37] <neodemi> they were working last reboot and now dont do anything
[22:37] <morsnowski> !ot
[22:38] <Garm> zykotick9, its a PCI express card
[22:38] <one> I need help guys
[22:39] <neodemi> i wouldnt normally ask in here, but google is throwing up so many answers that dont indicate what the cause is, or a solution that actually works
[22:39] <zykotick9> Garm: wireless pciexpress - wow. that pci command above 'should' work then, the "network" might not be the correct term though - you could try "wireless" if "network" fails.
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> is natty still supported?
[22:40] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: looks like
[22:40] <zykotick9> !natty
[22:40] <wonwon99> Anyone know the best way to completely remove malware/shit from windows 7? When should the OS be completely reinstalled?
[22:40] <morsnowski> for future reference, do not set dell bios operating system in stall to on. that will only show 256meg of ram to the OS and it will take forever to do anything
[22:40] <rhizmoe> k1l: alas, i use ^t for a new tab. clicking in the launcher should either bring existing window in wkspc to front, or create a new one.
[22:40] <k1l> MonkeyDust: till end of october
[22:40] <morsnowski> install that is
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> ok
[22:40] <rhizmoe> wonwon99: go away
[22:41] <k1l> wonwon99: for windows support try ##windows
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> wonwon99  you're in the wrong channel
[22:41] <wonwon99> how to connect to ##windows??
[22:41] <rhizmoe> you see ppl like wonwon99 when high school is out for the summer
[22:41] <rhizmoe> wonwon99: /j #new2irc
[22:41] <rhizmoe> also #irchelp
[22:42] <Lounge> anyone else having problems with launcher's auto hide?
[22:42] <Garm> zykotick9, dont know if this will help you Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) i didn t really understand what you wanted ;)
[22:42] <Lounge> doesn't want to reappear
[22:43] <Lounge> i've tried tuning the sensitivity up and down, nothing
[22:44] <zykotick9> Garm: nice!  sorry i have 0 experience with that particular adapter - but you might want to try searching for AR242x / AR542x +ubuntu (if someone else doesn't jump in)
[22:44] <Garm> ok zykotick9 i give that a try too
[22:45] <Kaizen> is there a softer alternative to "reboot" ?  something that does some kind of reset and restarts services etc
[22:46] <jiohdi> logout?
[22:46] <zykotick9> Kaizen: 1 service or more then 1?
[22:46] <neodemi> cant lock screen issue resolved using duct tape and string
[22:46] <Kaizen> zykotick9 all
[22:46] <zykotick9> Kaizen: reboot is probably your best bet then...
[22:47] <Gyges> Kaizen, by misconfiguration, if i do reboot, i get a a kernel reboot!!
[22:47] <neodemi> ctrl-alt-l reassigned to launch gnome-screensaver-command -a
[22:47] <Gyges> Kaizen, don't ask me how
[22:47] <Kaizen> i'm having a problem getting mysqld to restart in a cron script, it restarts fine if i run manually and it isn't a path issue
[22:48] <Kaizen> so my only option right now that works within cron is a reboot
[22:48] <Kaizen> which is harsh
[22:48] <jiohdi> Kaizen, if you logout then back in under a different user or different desktop manager, might that do it?
[22:48] <kesten> any body there who can help me with diff?
[22:49] <Kaizen> jiohdi this is for server and it has to be automated
[22:49] <jiohdi> oh...
[22:49] <th0r> Kaizen, can you restart a daemon using cron in ubuntu? I think you have to restart daemons as root.
[22:49] <kesten> I want to do $ diff -p1 dir1/stuff dir2/stuff > stuff.patch with the p1 to strip off the first directory level, but i think this is an "svn diff" not the utility diff of the command line.
[22:49] <th0r> Kaizen,  and I don't want to hear any 'no root in ubuntu'
[22:50] <Kaizen> th0r i am running the cron job as root, isn't that good enough?
[22:50] <jiohdi> Kaizen, what bout a script that killall the offending program and restart it?
[22:51] <th0r> Kaizen, yes it is....didn't know if you had done that or not
[22:51] <Kaizen> jiohdi it is already dead, my health check script checks if it's alive every minute, if it isn't then attempts to restart
[22:52] <wifiman> kesten: maybe you're thinking of patch -p1? you could also filter the diff through sed to strip the first path component
[22:53] <th0r> Kaizen, You have verified that the cron script is reaching the point where it is trying to restart the daemon?
[22:53] <Jagst3r15> i have nvidia drivers but dont intend to play games anymore
[22:54] <Jagst3r15> is the nvidia driver loaded by default with 12.04>
[22:54] <Jagst3r15> like is the comp using nvid and intel hd graphix
[22:54] <k1l> Jagst3r15: you have ha hybrid nvidia/intel setup?
[22:54] <Kaizen> th0r yeah it sends me an email saying service failed to restart and i run the script manually as root it restarts fine and emails me to say it restarted
[22:55] <Jagst3r15> k1l wat u mean mate?
[22:56] <ash_> hello chaos
[22:56] <k1l> you got 2 grafikcards in your system? a nvidia and a intel?
[22:56] <ash_> *chaps, even
[22:56] <Jagst3r15> k1l ya it comes with them i think
[22:56] <Jagst3r15> i just converted from win 7 so i assume the nvid is still there?
[22:56] <k1l> Jagst3r15: then you need the bumblebee driver.
[22:56] <sambagirl> when you install wordpress ie sudo apt-get install wordpress where does it install it?
[22:56] <Jagst3r15> wat the bumblebee do?
[22:57] <Jagst3r15> help me manage it?
[22:57] <jiohdi> sambagirl, normally in /usr/bin
[22:57] <k1l> Jagst3r15: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[22:57] <sambagirl> umm let me look
[22:57] <Jagst3r15> thanks k1l i will read
[22:57] <k1l> Jagst3r15: shutdown the big nvidia card when its not needed to safe power etc
[22:58] <sambagirl> are you certain jiohdi?
[22:58] <sambagirl> well it installed it someplace
[22:58] <sambagirl> but where?
[22:58] <jiohdi> sambagirl, that is normally where all apt-get installs end up, there some exceptions
[22:58] <sambagirl> shouldnt it be in var/www/ ???
[22:59] <jiohdi> sambagirl, /var is for variables not binaries
[22:59] <k1l> sambagirl: the question is: what are you really locking for?
[22:59] <k1l> *looking
[22:59] <iceroot> sambagirl: dpkg -L wordpress
[22:59] <sambagirl> what i am looking for is to install wordpress environment on a local server
[22:59] <iceroot> sambagirl: and it not /var/www its somehwere else and then an apache symlink is created
[23:00] <sambagirl> well according to the instructions you just type what i posted ealier and that installs the dependencies and stuff.
[23:00] <k1l> sambagirl: yes
[23:01] <jiohdi> sambagirl, some things end up under /etc
[23:01] <sambagirl> ok well i removed it but i will install it again but i cant determine where it even is going?
[23:01] <sambagirl> well i usually just untar it to like under www
[23:01] <sambagirl> but it thought i would try this process they posted on a forum
[23:02] <Humble313> Hi. I installed ubuntu for my dad. It connects to the wireless connection but doesn't actually go on the internet plus it drops every 30 secs.
[23:02] <Humble313> I've tried to look for solutions on the internet but haven't really seen anything that helps.
[23:02] <sambagirl> ahh i see that command actually shows me where it is
[23:02] <sambagirl> dpkg -L wordpress
[23:03] <jiohdi> sambagirl, where did it end up?
[23:03] <sambagirl> haha etc
[23:04] <Humble313> Has anyone else had that problem and solved it?
[23:04] <sambagirl> that's amazing ;D
[23:04] <jiohdi> sambagirl, I think non-standard things tend towards /etc
[23:05] <haz3lnut> Humble313: sounds like you're not getting an ip address from the wireless router.
[23:05] <haz3lnut> Humble313: that's why it keeps dropping and reconnecting
[23:05] <Humble313> So how do I fix that?
[23:05] <sambagirl> i see jiohdi
[23:05] <sambagirl> well i figure i will just remove it and do it another way :D
[23:06] <zenwryly> I have a server running as a NAT gateway and an OpenVPN connection on tun0.  I'd like to have all traffic for the server itself go through the VPN but keep all traffic going through the server as the gateway go through the physical interface.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
[23:06] <Gyges> Humble313, you can start troubleshooting by looking at /var/log/syslog
[23:06] <haz3lnut> Humble313: is it a proper access point?  can you connect with your phone ok?
[23:06] <Humble313> Yep. First time I've had trouble with wifi.
[23:07] <haz3lnut> Humble313: what Gyges said, at a terminal "sudo tail -f /var/syslog"
[23:07] <haz3lnut> and whatch what it does when you try to connect.
[23:08] <Humble313> Should I type that with the ethernet cable in or out?
[23:08] <haz3lnut> might be a duh moment, but did you try to re-enter the password to make sure it is correct?
[23:08] <Humble313> Several times
[23:09] <haz3lnut> Humble313: if you got ethernet cable, you're not on wifi
[23:09] <haz3lnut> use one or the other
[23:09] <Humble313> I only used the ethernet cable cos wifi connected but disconnected every 20 secs
[23:09] <Humble313> Nothing would load
[23:09] <Humble313> I'll try that command now
[23:10] <calmpitbull> Hello
[23:10] <haz3lnut> Humble313: unplpug ethernet. turn off wifi, enter command at terminal, plug in wifi and watch
[23:11] <haz3lnut> Humble313: I must be drunk.  it's /var/log/syslog
[23:12] <morsnowski> shouldn't that be "sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog"
[23:12] <morsnowski> hmm
[23:12] <morsnowski> sorry
[23:12] <scoob> Hello all. I don't suppose there's any way to unencrypt a home directory? Googling has made me believe there's nothing.
[23:12] <Jagst3r15> k1l anyway to see if i install bumble correct?
[23:12] <scoob> I have access, but I simply with to unencrypt it permenantly.
[23:12] <scoob> wish^
[23:13] <Humble313> Yeah it was telling me no sudo lol
[23:13] <k1l> Jagst3r15: sry but that is beyond my knowledge, because i dont have that cards for myself
[23:13] <Jagst3r15> k1l its okay thanks for help :)
[23:14] <Humble313> cant open for reading
[23:14] <Humble313> no such directory
[23:15] <haz3lnut> sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
[23:15] <haz3lnut> it's there
[23:15] <Humble313> yep
[23:15] <Humble313> i disabled wifi
[23:15] <Humble313> typed that
[23:15] <Humble313> then it asked for password
[23:15] <Humble313> put it in
[23:15] <Humble313> nothing
[23:15] <FloodBot1> Humble313: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:16] <Jagst3r15> k1l i just added sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia again and it says already have newest version so i guess thats the best way to check. thnx again
[23:16] <haz3lnut> Humble313: this is a clean install?
[23:16] <Humble313> so i'm kinda baffled
[23:16] <Humble313> yes. clean install from today
[23:16] <haz3lnut> Humble313: if you got no syslog, your system is messed up.
[23:16] <Humble313> so how do i fix?
[23:17] <OerHeks> Jagst3r15, the guys in #bumblebee are up2date
[23:17] <Jagst3r15> can i ask there?
[23:17] <Lounge> does anyone know why moving the launcher to the bottom is no longer supported in 12.04?
[23:18] <haz3lnut> Humble313: I gotta pass you to someone else, because wife on the way and I gotta go cook something :-)
[23:18] <haz3lnut> keep trying
[23:18] <Humble313> no problem
[23:18] <sambagirl>  /join #openbravo
[23:18] <sambagirl> opps
[23:18] <Jagst3r15> joing #bumblebee
[23:18] <Jagst3r15> crap lol
[23:18] <sambagirl> jaja
[23:19] <sambagirl> what is bumblebee?
[23:19] <k1l> sambagirl: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[23:20] <sambagirl> yes it is for nvidia optimus
[23:20] <Humble313> is it worth trying to use the disc that came with my wireless usb on ubuntu?
[23:21] <sambagirl> obviously some kind of video optimizer for nvidia video card
[23:21] <sambagirl> driver
[23:21] <Humble313> despite the fact that it recognises wireless connections but it isnt connecting
[23:21] <Kitty_> Hello all.
[23:21] <sambagirl> humble313 what is your issue?
[23:21] <hello_kitty> I upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04, and now I can't see any text in terminal windows except the bold text display by 'ls'  How can I fix this? The bar at the top of the screen is also completely transparent except the icons, not sure if that is normal or not.
[23:21] <Gyges> brrrrrr
[23:21] <sambagirl> are you using Hoary distro? :D
[23:21] <k1l> sambagirl: its a special driver for special videocards
[23:21] <Humble313> my issue is that my internet doesn't work through wireless
[23:22] <Humble313> it connects to the router, nothing shows up in web browers, and then it disconnects
[23:22] <sambagirl> is it on a desktop or laptop?
[23:22] <Humble313> desktop
[23:22] <Humble313> installed today
[23:22] <sambagirl> what release?
[23:22] <Humble313> ubuntu 12.04
[23:22] <Gyges> hello_kitty, you may be able to right-click the transparent part
[23:22] <sambagirl> well i can't help you there cause we only use 10.10 cause it works for us
[23:23] <Humble313> we would be?
[23:23] <sambagirl> do this. why not try it as a livecd and see what happens with that?
[23:23] <Humble313> thats what i did at first
[23:23] <Humble313> didn't connect through livecd
[23:23] <sambagirl> did you try with just ethernet?
[23:23] <Humble313> yep works fine
[23:23] <airstrike> hi. i'm missing the drivers for my sd card reader on my laptop. i've googled around and it seems like i need something called 'sdhci'. how do i go about this?
[23:24] <hello_kitty> Gyges: it seems that I can only click on icons themselves, the rest of the bar is not there..is this some sort of driver problem, along w/ the missing text..?
[23:24] <sambagirl> did you check for additional drivers?
[23:24] <Kitty_> I'm trying to play Diablo 2 through Wine, and I've noticed I don't seem to have the drivers for my graphics chip. I'm wondering, I need to update the drivers on Linux, correct? If so, how do I go about doing this
[23:25] <airstrike> everyone's asking bout drivers tonight
[23:25] <sambagirl> if i were you kitty i would use reactos to play my games in
[23:25] <Jagst3r15> its driver night :)
[23:25] <DrPantsW> anyone ever use the smart card drivers with firefox?  I wasn't able to get it running
[23:25] <Kitty_> Okay, I'll try that. I still need to know how to update the drivers for my graphics chip, however. I just got Ubuntu, completely fresh.
[23:26] <sambagirl> if you go to shell humble313 what is your ip address from the router?
[23:26] <Humble313> i thought ubuntu was going to be much faster than windows 7 on my dads pc
[23:26] <Humble313> had to turn it off, dads sleeping
[23:26] <sambagirl> if you ran 10.10 it is
[23:26] <sambagirl> or try xubuntu humble313
[23:26] <Humble313> whats wrong with 12.04?
[23:26] <sambagirl> xubuntu has the familiar gnome interface
[23:26] <sambagirl> nothing i just like gnome interface
[23:27] <Humble313> yeah im using gnome interface
[23:27] <Jagst3r15> unity is better
[23:27] <sambagirl> download xubuntu and run that as a livecd and i bet it works
[23:27] <Jagst3r15> :O
[23:27] <Kitty_> sambagirl: You said Reactos, correct?
[23:27] <sambagirl> yes kitty__ check in #reactos
[23:27] <Humble313> whats the disadvantages of xubuntu?
[23:27] <Kitty_> Okay.
[23:27] <sambagirl> that is a xp style distro
[23:27] <sambagirl> runs games great
[23:28] <Jagst3r15> xbuntu just isnt as cooleo imo
[23:28] <hello_kitty_> whoops lost connection -- if anyone said anything to me
[23:28] <sambagirl> heh
[23:28] <sambagirl> that is a xp style distro
[23:28] <sambagirl> reactos
[23:28] <sambagirl> #reactos
[23:29] <sambagirl> i tried to play witcher 2 in wine but i didnt have the drivers for video
[23:29] <fuzzynurfhurter> thats a prob im worried bout 2 samba
[23:29] <sambagirl> xubuntu has the familiar gnome interface that makes it easier for us stupidos to communicate around jagst3r15
[23:29] <fuzzynurfhurter> lol
[23:29] <Humble313> so is xubuntu that much faster?
[23:30] <hello_kitty_> oh looks like 12.04 doesn't see my onboard gfx at all -- its just a blank line in the system details
[23:30] <sambagirl> kitty did you check for additional drivers?
[23:30] <wifiman> i can't seem to get HDMI audio working with my R6xx card: the device shows up in aplay -l and i can send audio to it, but aplay runs way too fast and i don't get any sound; i've toggled the S/PDIF control with alsamixer to no effect
[23:30] <L3top> hello_kitty_: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[23:30] <sambagirl> xubuntu is just friendlier with gnome cause that is what i am used to
[23:30] <fuzzynurfhurter> might be with the nomodeset in the grub line
[23:31] <sambagirl> kitty i bet you can find a driver for your card. lspci will show you the roots to your mfg
[23:31] <Kitty_> Hmmm, seeing as no one is talking in #reactos, how much do you know about ReactOS, Samba?
[23:31] <fuzzynurfhurter> ther
[23:31] <sambagirl> i have played with it for a couple years kitty
[23:31] <Humble313> how would i know if my graphics driver has been installed? i don't see a problem with the graphics but still just curious
[23:31] <sambagirl> try to find the drivers first though
[23:31] <L3top> wifiman: can you please pastebin the output of aplay -l?
[23:32] <sambagirl> if you can see it your fine humble313 :D
[23:32] <hello_kitty> whoops lost connection L3top
[23:32] <Humble313> ubuntu is decent though
[23:32] <Jagst3r15> hello_kitty read last post here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1887214
[23:32] <sambagirl> it;s all good stuff
[23:32] <Jagst3r15> ubuntu is more than decent imo ;)
[23:32] <Kitty_> Ah, delicious. So, about the chipset drivers, how the hell do I install them? I'm just about fresh out of the Windows box, sadly.
[23:32] <sambagirl> there are some ubuntu distros that are game specific
[23:32] <Humble313> depends on use right?
[23:33] <hello_kitty> ty Jagst3r15
[23:33] <sambagirl> there is a distro for everyday people :D
[23:33] <Humble313> so ubuntu is the best for average user?
[23:33] <Jagst3r15> ya
[23:33] <sambagirl> i think so
[23:34] <L3top> Humble313: imo ubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu... yes
[23:34] <Humble313> keeping my pc as windows 7 though :)
[23:34] <sambagirl> i suggest you download xubuntu or kubuntu or lubuntu and see if any one of those gives you wireless immediatly via livecd and not install
[23:34] <sambagirl> well i run win7 in vm :D
[23:34] <sambagirl> i run osx in vm :D
[23:34] <sambagirl> l even run aros/amiga in vm :D
[23:35] <Humble313> how much ram do you have?
[23:35] <L3top> Humble313: I expect you will transition their roles... but sure... that is a safe way to start.
[23:35] <sambagirl> umm 4 gig on this laptop
[23:35] <sambagirl> but the servers have like 16gig
[23:35]  * L3top hearts amiga
[23:35] <Humble313> i've got 4 gb on my pc but with shared graphics card all in one pc
[23:35] <sambagirl> :D
[23:35] <aguitel> is right to use glxgears with benchmark my video card ?+
[23:36] <sambagirl> humble try xubuntu and download and make livecd/install cd and check it out.
[23:36] <Humble313> will do tomorrow :)
[23:36] <L3top> aguitel: it will tell you the fps for 3d yes... but there are certainly more evolved benchmarking tools
[23:36] <sambagirl> it has a familar interface
[23:36] <Humble313> i just hope they're user friendly
[23:36] <sambagirl> you can always run osx on your dads machine if you feel like it you know
[23:36] <fuzzynurfhurter> x is humble im using it
[23:36] <aguitel> L3top, what tool ?
[23:37] <sambagirl> xubuntu is very nice
[23:37] <sambagirl> i'm moving to that next
[23:37] <Humble313> the pc is amd athlon single core processor. 1.5gb ram with 70gb ide hard drive i believe
[23:37] <sambagirl> i suggest you run 10.10 humble313 and put compiz fusion on it and let your dad have a fun time.
[23:37] <Humble313> should i download the latest version of xubuntu?
[23:38] <duality> hi
[23:38] <sambagirl> join #xubuntu and inquire
[23:38]  * L3top prefers KDE, and recommends for those who are VERY used to windows.
[23:38] <sambagirl> ubuntu is getting to big in my opinion. it's starting to become bloated
[23:38] <duality> how do i copy ssh keys, to my current machine so i don't have to use password all the time?
[23:38] <duality> sambagirl, bloated?
[23:39] <fuzzynurfhurter> only prob with it i got is hard to change desktop wallpaper and make it stay
[23:39] <Humble313> hmm kde looks nice
[23:39] <duality> macbuntu looks nice
[23:39] <duality> ...
[23:39] <fuzzynurfhurter> lstop if i have xubuntu can i get the kde stuff on net?
[23:39] <sambagirl> just my opinion with all these new ways of having to do the samething you did yesterday. it's kinds frustrating to have to learn to do the samething a different way when it worked the old way but your now forced to do it a completley different way and get the same results in the end. doesn't really compute :)
[23:39] <spanther> installed mate-desktop now I'm happy with 12.04 :D
[23:39] <codescience> sambagirl: a lot of distros seem bloated now. but it's not hard to remove the stuff you don't want.
[23:39] <GoogIe> Hey!
[23:40] <sambagirl> what is mate-desktop?
[23:40] <L3top> sambagirl: serioulsy... check out kubuntu sometime lately.
[23:40] <L3top> !mate
[23:40] <sambagirl> l3top i have i have linuxmce on a machine :D
[23:40] <Humble313> kde looks long
[23:40] <L3top> doh.
[23:40] <Humble313> i'll probably go with xubuntu
[23:40] <spanther> sambagirl, it's the gnome2 desktop ubuntu had once, but it's patched and more actual because they still work on this fork :)
[23:40] <sambagirl> we use that as our multimedia system :D
[23:41] <L3top> You hush... we have a girl user?
[23:41] <sambagirl> ahh sspanther
[23:41] <Humble313> its amazing that all of these os for free
[23:41] <L3top> I don't believe it.
[23:41] <fuzzynurfhurter> open source
[23:41] <spanther> L3top, stop playing drama :P
[23:41] <sambagirl> go to distrowatch.com sometime and look at over 1000 listed distros of all kinds :D
[23:41] <spanther> L3top, dark age is over and yes, girls use computers too! ;)
[23:42] <codescience> lol
[23:42] <fuzzynurfhurter> lol
[23:42] <L3top> come play in #linuxmce sometime... or on the forum... honestly... there is a long standing belief we do not have a SINGLE girl user.
[23:42] <Humble313> too many :s
[23:42] <fuzzynurfhurter> i havnt met 1 that can handle this yet
[23:42] <Jagst3r15> sambagirl ubuntu fine for up to date laptops.comps it may be too big for older comps or netbooks tho
[23:42] <fuzzynurfhurter> or atleast where im at lol
[23:42] <init[dot]d> just grab an older version from the repos
[23:42] <L3top> spanther: I am WELL aware of this... our specific project seems to be remarkably unappealing to them. I assumed it was my breath.
[23:43] <sambagirl> here is a fun environment http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/
[23:43] <spanther> L3top, android spreads worldwide and linux becomes more and more loved by everyone :)
[23:43] <duality> googlebot wtf :P
[23:43]  * L3top hearts plan 9
[23:44] <L3top> We are a weird animal spanther.
[23:44] <codescience> spanther: still amazing how many android users have never heard of "linux".
[23:44] <Humble313> would you guys say mac os x is a rip off version of linux?
[23:44] <codescience> Humble313: Linux, no. BSD, yes.
[23:44] <sambagirl> osx is a rip off of bsd
[23:44] <spanther> codescience, haha :D
[23:44] <wifiman> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1058306/
[23:44] <airstrike> hi. i'm missing the drivers for my sd card reader on my laptop. i've googled around and it seems like i need something called 'sdhci'. how do i go about this?
[23:45] <sambagirl> just like msdos windows is a rip off of xenix which is a rip off of unix
[23:45] <sambagirl> which is a rip off of amigados :D
[23:45] <Humble313> my God
[23:45] <Kitty_> Anyone not having issues with drivers? Lol
[23:45] <fuzzynurfhurter> that is wild
[23:45] <codescience> everyone gets ideas from everyone else.
[23:45] <codescience> Kitty_: nope.
[23:45] <spanther> me Kitty, me! :D
[23:45] <Kitty_> Lol
[23:45] <fuzzynurfhurter> nope
[23:46] <sambagirl> kitty search your driver from lspci listing for linux driver.
[23:46] <sambagirl> believe me someone has made one somewhere :)
[23:46] <Kitty_> Has anyone tried the game Nexuiz?
[23:46] <spanther> I use the radeon drivers (oss) and they're so smooth now just wondered how well unity worked no lags at all :)
[23:46] <Kitty_> I figured out the chipset and where to get the drivers, I just have no idea how to install them lololol
[23:46] <sambagirl> wow whata wild game
[23:47] <codescience> Kitty_: i have previously. great game.
[23:47] <L3top> wifiman: I would expect that "just works". Are you using Ubuntu or a derivative, and pulse audio?
[23:47] <sambagirl> search on google of install driver in linux
[23:47] <codescience> not installed atm though.
[23:47] <Kitty_> Sweetness, I'm downloading Nexuiz at the moment.
[23:47] <inashdeen> hi, i found out ppa doesnt allow deb uploading. the thing is, the program i created doesnt really have a source. how do i modify the deb to able to upload it to ppa.
[23:47] <sambagirl> seveas helped me to do a bind back when hoary was out for wifi so anything is possible i think
[23:47] <codescience> urban terror also good.
[23:47] <fuzzynurfhurter> spanther which radeon driver thing man im trying to find something for mine to work right on??
[23:47] <Kitty_> I got severely tired of Windows.
[23:47] <L3top> inashdeen: contact the maintainer of the PPA
[23:47] <sambagirl> windows is an insult :D
[23:47] <spanther> fuzzynurfhurter, the opensource one working out of the box :P
[23:47] <codescience> i still use windows for gaming. but that's it.
[23:48] <sambagirl> me too
[23:48] <sambagirl> brb
[23:48] <spanther> fglrx is the AMD one and radeon is the open source one x)
[23:48] <fuzzynurfhurter> which 1??
[23:48] <inashdeen> L3top: i want to upload the program i created to ppa. it is a new keyboard layout
[23:48] <paul__> hi
[23:48] <Humble313> what's the closest distro to mac os x?
[23:48] <Kitty_> Insult, yes, but it seems to be the only OS people are willing to produce games for, for the most part, at least.
[23:48] <L3top> fuzzynurfhurter: lspci | grep VGA
[23:48] <inashdeen> L3top: my ppa
[23:48] <wifiman> L3top: system originally installed as ubuntu proper several years ago, currently at 11.10; i've installed pulseaudio due to issues in previous releases where dmix worked fine
[23:48] <fuzzynurfhurter> i do too but i was wondering howi could play them through linux
[23:48] <wifiman> L3top: oops, uninstalled
[23:48] <codescience> Humble313: what do you want that's in mac os that isn't in linux already?
[23:49] <L3top> wifiman: do you have an /etc/asound.conf
[23:49] <Humble313> come to think of it, i probably just want a nice looking system dock
[23:49] <codescience> just install avant-window-navigator.
[23:49] <codescience> that will do the job.
[23:49] <L3top> inashdeen: that is not an Ubuntu support issue I am afraid. If it is YOUR ppa, you should be able to dump code there.
[23:49] <wifiman> L3top: yes; it sets defaults.pcm.rate_converter and defines three PCMs, none of which i'm using to test HDMI
[23:50] <inashdeen> L3top: why it is not a ubuntu issue then. I suppose i don't use ppa for fedora
[23:50] <wifiman> L3top: command i used was  aplay -D hw:2,3 -f S16_LE -c 2 -r 48000 /dev/urandom
[23:50] <L3top> wifiman: please pastebin. I will correct and you can back yours up and try
[23:50] <Kitty_> I think Ubuntu might be a gateway drug. First time on IRC, as well. Watch, within the next year I'm going to learn Python. All downhill from there lol
[23:51] <Humble313> avant window navigator looks sweet
[23:51] <codescience> ;-)
[23:51] <wifiman> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1058314/
[23:51] <L3top> hw:2 indicates a third card and ,3 would be the third output wifiman. according to aplay you are on card 0 device 3
[23:52] <L3top> so aplay -D hw:0,3 -f S16_LE -c 2 -r 48000 /dev/urandom
[23:52] <wifiman> aplay: main:660: audio open error: No such file or directory
[23:52] <L3top> wifiman: better yet... speaker-test -c 2 -t sine -D hw:0,3
[23:52] <wylde_> inashdeen: if it's on Launchpad you'd look to them for support issues. You could also have a llok here >>> http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/index.html
[23:52] <wylde_> look*
[23:53] <L3top> inashdeen: because ppas are not supported in ubuntu.
[23:53] <wifiman> L3top: consistent with aplay -l's output indicating card 2
[23:53] <L3top> !ppa | inashdeen
[23:53] <sambagirl> kitty http://www.alientrap.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/nexuiz_screenshot_71.jpg
[23:53] <wamicho> clementine music player and gtkpod keeps on crashing whenever i start them any one came across this ?
[23:53] <L3top> you are correct wifiman... sorry... was looking to briefly
[23:54] <fuzzynurfhurter> on that avant mine says it doesnt have an installation candidate
[23:54] <wylde_> inashdeen: Perhaps #ubuntu-motu may have some insight as well.
[23:55] <L3top> for the record sambagirl... our project is not representative of kubuntu... we are just built on it. And we are pretty far from 1204 atm.
[23:55] <wamicho> clementine music player and gtkpod keeps on crashing whenever i start them any one came across this ?
[23:56] <Jagst3r15> l3top wht porject?
[23:56] <L3top> linuxmce
[23:56] <fuzzynurfhurter> l3top im having trouble try tho get that avant window navigator
[23:56] <L3top> fuzzynurfhurter: I am sorry, I cannot work that out... can you restate please?
[23:58] <fuzzynurfhurter> lol yeah i am trying to download the avant window navigator in terminal but cant says no installation candidate
[23:58] <fuzzynurfhurter> on a netbook tiny keaboard
[23:59] <wifiman> snd_hda_intel creates the alsa device rather than radeon (and radeon's audio parameter seems to have no effect), so i'm guessing my issue would be off-topic in #radeon
[23:59] <sambagirl> l3top what about linuxmce? your on that dev team?
[23:59] <L3top> si sambagirl.
[23:59] <sambagirl> l3top i tried to install with wubi in windows 7 prof just today and it would not install.