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cerjam-g71hi bazhang00:02
cerjam-g71i'll stop annoying your channels00:02
cerjam-g71if you inform me how the hell00:02
cerjam-g71what ban youre using that closes my channel window.00:03
cerjam-g71usually when i get banned it stays open.00:03
cerjam-g71explain.00:03
well_laid_lawn!enter | cerjam-g7100:04
ubottucerjam-g71: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!00:04
Unit193cerjam-g71: Please don't use foul language, and remember this is a support channel for Xubuntu.00:05
IdleOnecerjam-g71: that has to do with your client but I know that when I kick ban a user from a channel I use the remove feature that freenode provides00:06
fuzzynurfhurterhi yall00:06
fuzzynurfhurterim having trouble with my networkmanager cant get the wireless card to work00:06
fuzzynurfhurteror the etho00:06
IdleOneyou can ask in your irc clients channel how that might affect your client00:06
cerjam-g71hm00:08
cerjam-g71perhaps usually they lack kicking.00:08
cerjam-g71thank you idleone.00:08
cerjam-g71i shall go poof now.00:08
Unit193fuzzynurfhurter: Ethernet would be a bit odd not working, but wireless may just need a driver, if you can lspci and paste the output to pastebin.com that may help.00:09
fuzzynurfhurterits off another pc im working on cant get either 1 to work right lol00:10
xubuntu653I changed theme away and then back, I logged out logged in, I rebooted. No change. What do I want to happen? I want the window borders that I grab to resize the window to be bigger than 1 pixel00:12
fuzzynurfhurterim in windows right now on it making a boot usb at the moment00:12
fuzzynurfhurter4 mins left lol00:13
fuzzynurfhurteri dont see why it wont connect the etho when i have it straight connected to the net00:15
fuzzynurfhurteri have a linksys wireless usb drive00:17
GridCubefor some reason my desktop is all grey00:17
GridCubeno wallpaper no rightclic menu00:18
fuzzynurfhurteri feel ya gridcube00:20
fuzzynurfhurteri cant figure out how to change it on this 1 lol00:20
GridCubeits easy to change the wallpaper, just find a nice picture on thunar and right clic > set as wallpaper00:21
GridCubebut the problem now is that for some reason its not working00:21
fuzzynurfhurteryeah i had 1 set as background and then when it boots up the thing aint there00:22
fuzzynurfhurterstill to no avail still get image is broken00:23
GridCubesomething is taking over my desktop00:23
GridCubei see the background00:23
GridCubebut then it gets covered by other thing00:23
fuzzynurfhurterthats odd00:23
GridCubeyes00:23
GridCubeits something like when you install nautilus and nautilus takes over the desktop instead of thunar00:23
GridCubebut i have not nautilus00:24
fuzzynurfhurterim gonna go back into xubuntu and do that\00:24
fuzzynurfhurterlol i feel ya00:24
genii-aroundI had that before on the netbook desktop for kubuntu, unity was taking over the desktop00:24
fuzzynurfhurteri got a q??00:24
fuzzynurfhurternow wwhen booting into xubuntu it says theres no job control in this shell00:25
fuzzynurfhurterand then im at a command line00:25
GridCubefuzzynurfhurter, what did you did?00:26
fuzzynurfhurteri dont know lol but it did something and now its up00:26
fuzzynurfhurteri typed boot it just started doing that00:27
GridCubeooooooooooo00:27
GridCubegreat00:27
GridCubejust great00:27
GridCubenow i cant open the menu it kills xfwm400:27
fuzzynurfhurterit says i dont have a home directory??00:27
GridCubewhat in earth just happened00:27
fuzzynurfhurteri dont know mines acting funny00:28
fuzzynurfhurterwhen i try to boot in it says a file system check failed on something00:30
fuzzynurfhurterim in a command line with ~#00:31
GridCubeyou have some problems with you hard drives00:31
GridCubefuzzynurfhurter, its this a new install?00:31
fuzzynurfhurteryeah00:31
fuzzynurfhurteri was trying to install knoppix on a different hd and have the bootloader on that 1 so i could just go to the boot helper and boot that hd when i want to00:32
fuzzynurfhurterhow can i fix the file system in the command line im in??00:32
GridCubethen you messed up your grub configs00:32
GridCubeget a livecd then get the ppa for boot-repair and use it to repair grub00:33
GridCubegotta go i need to fix things up here00:33
fuzzynurfhurterok i will try that grid thx00:33
fuzzynurfhurterk thx for the help00:33
fuzzynurfhurterim in the recovery menu00:34
fuzzynurfhurternow00:34
fuzzynurfhurternope00:36
fuzzynurfhurtercouldnt i reinstall grub from here??00:36
GridCubegreaaaaaaaaat00:38
GridCubewhat in earth00:39
GridCube:(00:39
GridCubethings are failing one after the other00:39
fuzzynurfhurterhow do u change the hd from (hd0,2) to (hd0,3)??00:42
fuzzynurfhurterto boot up00:42
fuzzynurfhurterits going to the swap instead of the linux partition00:42
GridCube!grub00:43
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)00:43
fuzzynurfhurteryeah but its searching in (hd0,2) instead of (hd0,3)00:47
GridCubethen edit it00:48
fuzzynurfhurteri dont know how00:49
GridCubei pointed you to some manuals00:49
fuzzynurfhurterthat didnt help in in the command line of it right now00:49
GridCubesorry if im quirky fuzzynurfhurter im kinda having my own problems now00:49
fuzzynurfhurteri feel ya it all gravy00:50
slowzfuzzynurfhurter, easiest would prob be sudo os-prober then sudo update-grub00:51
fuzzynurfhurterwhen it says grub it says to use /usr/sbin/grubinstall instead of /sbin/grub install00:51
GridCubefuzzynurfhurter, you should get a live cd, then install boot-repair, run it and fix grub00:52
GridCubeits as easy as that00:52
fuzzynurfhurterit says something about unsupported options00:52
fuzzynurfhurteri have to get onto windows so i can make a live usb and getboot repair00:54
fuzzynurfhurteri might have to leave for a little to use this laptop to boot up that ubuntu to get bootrepair00:58
fuzzynurfhurterwouldnt it be apt-get install boot-repair??00:58
fuzzynurfhurterwouldnt it be apt-get install boot-repair??00:59
GridCube:(00:59
GridCubeno00:59
fuzzynurfhurterlol00:59
GridCubeyou need to ppa it before00:59
fuzzynurfhurterppa??01:00
fuzzynurfhurtersry dont know what that is01:00
GridCubehttps://launchpad.net/boot-repair01:00
GridCubeyes ppa01:00
fuzzynurfhurterk but ive been having trouble installing tar files01:01
GridCubeno01:02
GridCubethe ppa01:02
GridCubewait01:02
GridCubeill find it for you01:02
fuzzynurfhurterim lost man01:02
GridCubefuzzynurfhurter,01:03
GridCubeare you in the livecd already?01:03
fuzzynurfhurterall isee is fora tar.gz file01:03
GridCubeyes, sorry i send you to the wrong link01:03
GridCubeits the correct link, but not the one you need01:03
GridCubeyou need this one https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/boot-repair01:03
GridCubeit has the ppa address01:03
GridCubeand the instructions01:03
fuzzynurfhurterno i have to shut this 1 down and then boot back up dont know if it will find the wireless card to get on the net01:04
fuzzynurfhurterok thx im checkin it out01:04
fuzzynurfhurterk i will try that thx alot man01:07
fuzzynurfhurterk i have to update it first i think cause it says command not found01:11
fuzzynurfhurterhow would u get xubuntu desktop sessions??01:13
fuzzynurfhurteri dont understand why xubuntu finds the wlan and etho but bluecherry xubuntu wont01:14
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fuzzynurfhurterim out for a bit01:19
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fuzzynurfhurter ubuntu finds the wireless card fine but xubuntu wont lol01:31
fuzzynurfhurter ubuntu finds the wireless card fine but xubuntu wont lol01:32
genii-aroundfuzzynurfhurter: What card is it?01:33
genii-aroundeg: what does lspci -nn   or lsusb  say it is, vendor and device codes01:34
fuzzynurfhurterlinksys wireless usb01:34
fuzzynurfhurtersays linksys wusb100 v1 rangeplus wireless network adapter01:37
genii-aroundfuzzynurfhurter: That's not the output of lspci -nn or of lsusb. Which has the device:vendor code in it, which is what is the useful thing we need to determine what kind of driver it requires.01:38
fuzzynurfhurterbus 001 device 004: ID 1737:007001:39
fuzzynurfhurtersry i see what u were talking about after my first post lol01:40
genii-aroundHm, can't seem to find what it's supposed to be using.01:45
fuzzynurfhurteri have no clue like i said ubuntu finds it but xubuntu wont01:47
fuzzynurfhurterit is using 127.0.1.1 as my ip address on xubuntu01:48
genii-aroundfuzzynurfhurter: When booted to ubuntu livecd and it is working, sudo lshw -C network     ... then the line which starts out: configuration:    ..  says what driver it is using01:49
GridCubeok01:49
GridCubeI01:49
GridCubeOK01:49
GridCubei will have to reinstall xubuntu01:49
GridCubebut not today01:49
fuzzynurfhurterk i will check it man at the moment i cant get the usb to boot up right now01:50
fuzzynurfhurterfor some reason it wont load from the usb any more even going into the boot selector01:52
fuzzynurfhurterk im back in to it lol dont know what happened lol01:54
fuzzynurfhurterdriver=rt2800usb01:56
fuzzynurfhurterit messed up earlier when i was updating the stuff01:57
genii-aroundInteresting. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=rt2800usb.ko&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any indicates it's coming in the standard linux-image-<your-version-here>-generic02:00
genii-aroundWhich makes me think it's not a driver issue, but some networking problem02:01
fuzzynurfhurter i dont know man02:08
fuzzynurfhurterim on a nother pc in a different room updating ubuntu real quick02:09
fuzzynurfhurterwell once i get the grub fixrd for xubuntu i will go in to it and do lshw blah blah and see what it says i dont know it has drivers for it or not02:13
genii-aroundfuzzynurfhurter: If the sudo lshw -C network    shows in the configuration:   line the same driver, it is almost certainly some network mis-configuration issue02:19
fuzzynurfhurterok i will check it out after it has finished updating i thx ur help man02:20
fuzzynurfhurterwatching movie till update is finished lol02:23
fuzzynurfhurteri did the xubuntu desktop thing but cant find how to use it or what ever02:59
GridCubeMessage did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)03:20
GridCubethat pops up when i try to launch xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu03:21
GridCubeand i get a segfault when trying to launch xfce4-appfinder03:21
calligarI know this might seem really stupid, but I'm trying to copy a cd with xubuntu using xburn, and I can't seem to find any options for it....does the program just not have it and I should be using a different program, or if you can, could anyone help me with this....rather simple task?03:56
calligarNevermind, I'll just figure it out...04:00
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calligarAnyone know a good program for copying cds (on xubuntu)04:30
XanzaBeen looking for a list of wifi cards that are compatible with Kubuntu, any help?04:38
Xanzashit, Xubuntu.04:38
GridCube:(04:53
GridCubei dont understand whats going on04:53
GridCubei created a new user and that seemed to fix stuff04:53
GridCubebut now xchat crashes bad when i try to launch it04:53
GridCube:(04:53
GridCubeim to tired to keep with this today04:54
asterismohi people05:18
asterismoyou know05:18
asterismoi cannot execute a bash script from a keyboard shortcut05:19
asterismobut i can from terminal05:19
asterismois not supposed to function like a terminal command the keyboard shortcut???05:19
asterismosomeone?05:20
blackgatocatnegrcursed onboard sound cards-_-05:55
blackgatocatnegranyway, I cant make the mic work in xubuntu05:58
xubuntu763Hello06:13
baizonhi06:46
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zastaphhow come the terminal is grey on grey?09:10
Sysidesign choice to have lower contrast09:11
zastaphwhat's wrong with contrast? :)09:12
zastaphseems colors is an individual preference.. i hope there's some sort of quickfix for me :)09:13
Sysiright click ->preferences -> colors09:13
zastaphcan terminal colors be set by .bashrc so that I can get a consistent look on all linuxes ?09:15
Sysino, terminal emulator would override them09:15
zastaphhmm, then each time I install a xubuntu guest OS I'd have to manually go to preferences / colors and hand edit them?09:16
SandJThere is a setting in .bashrc which enables colours, it is disabled by default.  Looking...09:16
SandJIt may not be what you want, though.       xterm-color) color_prompt=yes;09:17
SysiSandJ: that's just for prompt and apps like less09:17
SandJYes, understood, you're right.09:18
Sysizastaph: if you're using xfce's terminal, you can just keep copy of ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc somewhere09:18
Sysiif you just want more contrast than default, just changing text to completely black helps09:18
zastaphwhat's the equivalent of ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc on regular Ubuntu ?09:19
Sysi~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/09:20
Sysi(same settings don't work for different apps of course)09:20
zastaphwhat happened to convention over configuration? :p09:21
zastaphhttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/solarized-must-have-color-paletter-for.html09:55
zastaphthat does a bit of what I look for, but seems made specific for gnome terminal09:56
zastaphi'm looking for a one ring to rule them all solution :)09:56
ChintuHey, Can't get any audio or video playing on my Xubuntu :/10:42
Sysiinstall xubuntu-restricted -extras10:43
ChintuBut, I am not connected to internet in Xubuntu :(10:43
Sysi!offline10:44
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD10:44
ChintuThanks10:45
ChintuThere is no such package in Precise << It's showing that :/10:46
ChintuAnd i can't connect to my Mobile internet... Mobile start the connection and.. Trasfer the data.. But, Xubuntu notification shows "You're now disconnted from the Network" :/10:47
ChintuI'll download them all.. when, i'll be connected to internet10:47
xubuntu063Hello11:58
SandJWell, that was short and sweet.12:00
nickoe___Hi12:08
nickoe___Does xubuntu 12.04 include pae in default image?12:08
Sysiyes12:08
nickoe___The ubuntu one did, so I could not install it on my machine12:08
nickoe___Sysi: so... I can't install xubuntu either?12:08
SysiI'm afraid so, really old machine?12:09
nickoe___Sysi: I got this "This kernel requires following features not present on the cpu pae unable to boot"12:09
knome12.04 shouldn't have pae afaik12:09
nickoe___so how do I get a kernel that does not have pae12:09
knomewe did do that decision at least12:10
nickoe___knome: the ubuntu 12.04 did12:10
knomenickoe___, yes, they do, but xubuntu doesn't12:10
Sysiknome: we're not using same default kernel?12:10
knomeSysi, nope.12:10
nickoe___knome: great12:11
knomeSysi, we wanted the non-pae kernel for 12.04, exactly because we still want to support older machines12:11
nickoe___:)12:11
knomeSysi, 12.10+ will have pae too, though, since the non-pae kernel is going to go out of main12:11
Sysioh right, I thought non-pae isn't available at all since I was told "pae in enabled in default kernel" and use amd64 myself12:11
knomenope, it's still default in xubuntu and in main on the precise repositories12:12
nickoe___On win7 here. But I was trying to install the image on  USB stick, and the unviersal uisb installer did nbot copy fast12:12
knomehttp://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/ - the first point in the release notes ;)12:12
nickoe___knome: so on the next releast there is no option to get non pae`?12:13
knomenickoe___, unfortunately yes. the xubuntu team doesn't have the manpower to maintain our own kernel, so when ubuntu removes it from main, we got to go the pae-way12:13
nickoe___so legacy cpu's are no option anymore12:13
nickoe___:/12:13
knomewell, you can still install 12.04 and upgrade with non-pae, and12:13
knomei *think* that should work12:14
Sysiwell, 12.04 is LTS12:14
knomenon-pae is still going to be in universe, aiui12:14
knomeyes, that too. and that's the exact reason we decided to keep with non-pae for one more release12:14
knomeif it was non-lts, that would've been as good as next to nothing.12:14
knomenow it makes a difference, really12:15
nickoe___ok12:15
nickoe___what is there into maintaining a non-pae kernel?12:15
nickoe___It it not just a matter of disabling it when compiling the kernel?12:16
knomenickoe___, aiui, no12:16
knomenickoe___, but i'm no kernel expert12:16
nickoe___ok12:16
knomei think there is #ubuntu-kernel12:17
SandJnickoe___, one option for legacy CPUs is: just don't upgrade beyond 12.0412:20
nickoe___:(12:21
SandJWell, they (where 'they' = everyone) keep making operating systems bigger, and slower and with more stuff and eventually any given CPU will reach a point where it cannot cope.  Even Xubuntu.12:39
SandJAnd they way to live without that crippling bloat is to not upgrade.  And not upgrading and sticking with an older op sys and software means you are very unlikely to find any new bugs.12:41
blackgatocatnegrwhat waswhat what that live usb maker that worked in other distros besides ubuntu?13:21
blackgatocatnegrah right, UNetbootin13:26
josy1982man a kol me et risa pon13:28
blackgatocatnegrSwedish?13:30
klymerobonjour15:28
klymeroil y a quelqu un ?15:29
SandJBarely time to identify the language, translate it, and formulate a reply.    Would changing the topic description to include "... and wait a while for a response" help?15:33
GridCubeThings are just wrong16:13
GridCubei need assistance, for some reason something took over my desktop, its not nautilus, so i cleanse every folder starting with a . on my ~/, the desktop works again, but now if i launch xchat it freezes instantaneously and i cant use it16:15
GridCubeim using lubuntu now16:15
GridCubeto test if it works and it does16:16
GridCubebrb16:16
GridCubeok16:18
GridCubeso im on xubuntu now. using irssi16:19
SandJSeriously?  You have wiped out all the contents of all the hidden folders in your home directory?16:23
GridCubeyes16:26
GridCubeit means nothing really, it was that or a full reinstall16:26
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GridCubeok16:35
GridCubenow it works16:35
GridCube:/16:35
xubuntu619hello17:07
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STATE147689ARP:3193 LYONS ROAD, COCONUT CREEK 3306319:45
Unit193STATE147689: Something Xubuntu related we can help with?19:46
STATE147689Everything is clear just a minor error19:47
MyrttiSTATE147689: this isn't your private pastebin19:54
STATE147689im aware of that20:07
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SandJWhy might the Print Screen key have stopped working as it did?  In my Xubuntu 12.04 it called up a dialogue box that offered save to clipboard / file / upload to ZimigeZ but it does nothing.  Where should I start looking to fix this?  (Google got me nowhere.)21:23
pleia2SandJ: it's a keyboard shortcut, so I'd look under settings manager > keyboard and "application shortcuts" tab21:24
pleia2mine has an entry like: xfce4-screenshooter -f Print21:25
SandJSpot on!  For some reason, there were only 4 or 5 entries in there for calling apps.  I chose "Reset to Defaults" and now there is 18 of them, including the one you just gave.21:26
SandJHmm.  There's something odd going on with those shortcuts.  "Reset to defaults" added the defaults, I removed the duplicates and when I go back to that screen it has forgotten some others.  Very odd.21:28
SandJIt appears to be necessary to select "Reset toDefaults", then leave that screen without changing anything, then go back to it.21:29
SandJThank you, pleia2.21:29
gunz4Mipplei just install xubuntu, but nvidia drivers are still messed up? really bad fps on 6150GO21:31
gunz4Mippleis there a workaround in xswat or something21:32
SandJgunz4Mipple, I have that trouble too with my GeForce GTX 550 Ti - it won't work with the Xubuntu drivers as they come.21:36
SandJI have to do Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to a login prompt, log in, download the latest nVidia driver and install that.  Then when I reboot, it works.  But, every time the Xubuntu kernel is upgraded, I have to repeat the process.21:38
SandJAh.  I just read your  post properly - you just get a low FPS - completely different from my problem.  Sorry.21:39
MokuraIf I move my xubuntu installation to a bigger hard drive by using Clonezilla, are there any particular storage-to-swap partition ratios I should be aware of?22:10
MokuraOr are swap defaults based on installed memory?22:10
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th0rMokura, swap should be about 1.5 times your ram size. but over about 2 or 3 GB of ram swap is not really needed22:25
MokuraSo I could probably just expand the storage partition to fit the new size if I'm not upgrading RAM.22:25
Mokura(This is an old netbook we're talking here, so.)22:26
th0rMokura, yes. I usually reserve 10-15GB for / and use the rest for /home22:26
th0rMokura, I only have 2GB ram, so I set aside 1.5GB for swap, but doubt it will ever be used.22:26
MokuraCool, thanks.22:26
Mokurapfft I'm talking about ~512 MB22:27
Mokurait's a Thinkpad X40 :D22:27
th0rMokura, with 512MB ram I would probably set aside 1.5GB if I had enough hard drive space22:27
MokuraAlright, will do.22:27
gunz4MippleSandJ: i guess there are 2 probs, one is no graphics, one is no accelleration23:02
gunz4MippleI thot this was fixed in regular ubuntu base, which im guessing is the same as xubuntus base23:02
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gunz4Mippleargh, adding xswat and then newest nvidia-current there fixed FPS, but my moniter resolutions are all gone except one23:21

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