[00:02] <cerjam-g71> hi bazhang
[00:02] <cerjam-g71> i'll stop annoying your channels
[00:02] <cerjam-g71> if you inform me how the hell
[00:03] <cerjam-g71> what ban youre using that closes my channel window.
[00:03] <cerjam-g71> usually when i get banned it stays open.
[00:03] <cerjam-g71> explain.
[00:04] <well_laid_lawn> !enter | cerjam-g71
[00:05] <Unit193> cerjam-g71: Please don't use foul language, and remember this is a support channel for Xubuntu.
[00:06] <IdleOne> cerjam-g71: that has to do with your client but I know that when I kick ban a user from a channel I use the remove feature that freenode provides
[00:06] <fuzzynurfhurter> hi yall
[00:06] <fuzzynurfhurter> im having trouble with my networkmanager cant get the wireless card to work
[00:06] <fuzzynurfhurter> or the etho
[00:06] <IdleOne> you can ask in your irc clients channel how that might affect your client
[00:08] <cerjam-g71> hm
[00:08] <cerjam-g71> perhaps usually they lack kicking.
[00:08] <cerjam-g71> thank you idleone.
[00:08] <cerjam-g71> i shall go poof now.
[00:09] <Unit193> fuzzynurfhurter: Ethernet would be a bit odd not working, but wireless may just need a driver, if you can lspci and paste the output to pastebin.com that may help.
[00:10] <fuzzynurfhurter> its off another pc im working on cant get either 1 to work right lol
[00:12] <xubuntu653> I changed theme away and then back, I logged out logged in, I rebooted. No change. What do I want to happen? I want the window borders that I grab to resize the window to be bigger than 1 pixel
[00:12] <fuzzynurfhurter> im in windows right now on it making a boot usb at the moment
[00:13] <fuzzynurfhurter> 4 mins left lol
[00:15] <fuzzynurfhurter> i dont see why it wont connect the etho when i have it straight connected to the net
[00:17] <fuzzynurfhurter> i have a linksys wireless usb drive
[00:17] <GridCube> for some reason my desktop is all grey
[00:18] <GridCube> no wallpaper no rightclic menu
[00:20] <fuzzynurfhurter> i feel ya gridcube
[00:20] <fuzzynurfhurter> i cant figure out how to change it on this 1 lol
[00:21] <GridCube> its easy to change the wallpaper, just find a nice picture on thunar and right clic > set as wallpaper
[00:21] <GridCube> but the problem now is that for some reason its not working
[00:22] <fuzzynurfhurter> yeah i had 1 set as background and then when it boots up the thing aint there
[00:23] <fuzzynurfhurter> still to no avail still get image is broken
[00:23] <GridCube> something is taking over my desktop
[00:23] <GridCube> i see the background
[00:23] <GridCube> but then it gets covered by other thing
[00:23] <fuzzynurfhurter> thats odd
[00:23] <GridCube> yes
[00:23] <GridCube> its something like when you install nautilus and nautilus takes over the desktop instead of thunar
[00:24] <GridCube> but i have not nautilus
[00:24] <fuzzynurfhurter> im gonna go back into xubuntu and do that\
[00:24] <fuzzynurfhurter> lol i feel ya
[00:24] <genii-around> I had that before on the netbook desktop for kubuntu, unity was taking over the desktop
[00:24] <fuzzynurfhurter> i got a q??
[00:25] <fuzzynurfhurter> now wwhen booting into xubuntu it says theres no job control in this shell
[00:25] <fuzzynurfhurter> and then im at a command line
[00:26] <GridCube> fuzzynurfhurter, what did you did?
[00:26] <fuzzynurfhurter> i dont know lol but it did something and now its up
[00:27] <fuzzynurfhurter> i typed boot it just started doing that
[00:27] <GridCube> ooooooooooo
[00:27] <GridCube> great
[00:27] <GridCube> just great
[00:27] <GridCube> now i cant open the menu it kills xfwm4
[00:27] <fuzzynurfhurter> it says i dont have a home directory??
[00:27] <GridCube> what in earth just happened
[00:28] <fuzzynurfhurter> i dont know mines acting funny
[00:30] <fuzzynurfhurter> when i try to boot in it says a file system check failed on something
[00:31] <fuzzynurfhurter> im in a command line with ~#
[00:31] <GridCube> you have some problems with you hard drives
[00:31] <GridCube> fuzzynurfhurter, its this a new install?
[00:31] <fuzzynurfhurter> yeah
[00:32] <fuzzynurfhurter> i was trying to install knoppix on a different hd and have the bootloader on that 1 so i could just go to the boot helper and boot that hd when i want to
[00:32] <fuzzynurfhurter> how can i fix the file system in the command line im in??
[00:32] <GridCube> then you messed up your grub configs
[00:33] <GridCube> get a livecd then get the ppa for boot-repair and use it to repair grub
[00:33] <GridCube> gotta go i need to fix things up here
[00:33] <fuzzynurfhurter> ok i will try that grid thx
[00:33] <fuzzynurfhurter> k thx for the help
[00:34] <fuzzynurfhurter> im in the recovery menu
[00:34] <fuzzynurfhurter> now
[00:36] <fuzzynurfhurter> nope
[00:36] <fuzzynurfhurter> couldnt i reinstall grub from here??
[00:38] <GridCube> greaaaaaaaaat
[00:39] <GridCube> what in earth
[00:39] <GridCube> :(
[00:39] <GridCube> things are failing one after the other
[00:42] <fuzzynurfhurter> how do u change the hd from (hd0,2) to (hd0,3)??
[00:42] <fuzzynurfhurter> to boot up
[00:42] <fuzzynurfhurter> its going to the swap instead of the linux partition
[00:43] <GridCube> !grub
[00:47] <fuzzynurfhurter> yeah but its searching in (hd0,2) instead of (hd0,3)
[00:48] <GridCube> then edit it
[00:49] <fuzzynurfhurter> i dont know how
[00:49] <GridCube> i pointed you to some manuals
[00:49] <fuzzynurfhurter> that didnt help in in the command line of it right now
[00:49] <GridCube> sorry if im quirky fuzzynurfhurter im kinda having my own problems now
[00:50] <fuzzynurfhurter> i feel ya it all gravy
[00:51] <slowz> fuzzynurfhurter, easiest would prob be sudo os-prober then sudo update-grub
[00:51] <fuzzynurfhurter> when it says grub it says to use /usr/sbin/grubinstall instead of /sbin/grub install
[00:52] <GridCube> fuzzynurfhurter, you should get a live cd, then install boot-repair, run it and fix grub
[00:52] <GridCube> its as easy as that
[00:52] <fuzzynurfhurter> it says something about unsupported options
[00:54] <fuzzynurfhurter> i have to get onto windows so i can make a live usb and getboot repair
[00:58] <fuzzynurfhurter> i might have to leave for a little to use this laptop to boot up that ubuntu to get bootrepair
[00:58] <fuzzynurfhurter> wouldnt it be apt-get install boot-repair??
[00:59] <fuzzynurfhurter> wouldnt it be apt-get install boot-repair??
[00:59] <GridCube> :(
[00:59] <GridCube> no
[00:59] <fuzzynurfhurter> lol
[00:59] <GridCube> you need to ppa it before
[01:00] <fuzzynurfhurter> ppa??
[01:00] <fuzzynurfhurter> sry dont know what that is
[01:00] <GridCube> https://launchpad.net/boot-repair
[01:00] <GridCube> yes ppa
[01:01] <fuzzynurfhurter> k but ive been having trouble installing tar files
[01:02] <GridCube> no
[01:02] <GridCube> the ppa
[01:02] <GridCube> wait
[01:02] <GridCube> ill find it for you
[01:02] <fuzzynurfhurter> im lost man
[01:03] <GridCube> fuzzynurfhurter,
[01:03] <GridCube> are you in the livecd already?
[01:03] <fuzzynurfhurter> all isee is fora tar.gz file
[01:03] <GridCube> yes, sorry i send you to the wrong link
[01:03] <GridCube> its the correct link, but not the one you need
[01:03] <GridCube> you need this one https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/boot-repair
[01:03] <GridCube> it has the ppa address
[01:03] <GridCube> and the instructions
[01:04] <fuzzynurfhurter> no i have to shut this 1 down and then boot back up dont know if it will find the wireless card to get on the net
[01:04] <fuzzynurfhurter> ok thx im checkin it out
[01:07] <fuzzynurfhurter> k i will try that thx alot man
[01:11] <fuzzynurfhurter> k i have to update it first i think cause it says command not found
[01:13] <fuzzynurfhurter> how would u get xubuntu desktop sessions??
[01:14] <fuzzynurfhurter> i dont understand why xubuntu finds the wlan and etho but bluecherry xubuntu wont
[01:19] <fuzzynurfhurter> im out for a bit
[01:31] <fuzzynurfhurter>  ubuntu finds the wireless card fine but xubuntu wont lol
[01:32] <fuzzynurfhurter>  ubuntu finds the wireless card fine but xubuntu wont lol
[01:33] <genii-around> fuzzynurfhurter: What card is it?
[01:34] <genii-around> eg: what does lspci -nn   or lsusb  say it is, vendor and device codes
[01:34] <fuzzynurfhurter> linksys wireless usb
[01:37] <fuzzynurfhurter> says linksys wusb100 v1 rangeplus wireless network adapter
[01:38] <genii-around> fuzzynurfhurter: That's not the output of lspci -nn or of lsusb. Which has the device:vendor code in it, which is what is the useful thing we need to determine what kind of driver it requires.
[01:39] <fuzzynurfhurter> bus 001 device 004: ID 1737:0070
[01:40] <fuzzynurfhurter> sry i see what u were talking about after my first post lol
[01:45] <genii-around> Hm, can't seem to find what it's supposed to be using.
[01:47] <fuzzynurfhurter> i have no clue like i said ubuntu finds it but xubuntu wont
[01:48] <fuzzynurfhurter> it is using 127.0.1.1 as my ip address on xubuntu
[01:49] <genii-around> fuzzynurfhurter: When booted to ubuntu livecd and it is working, sudo lshw -C network     ... then the line which starts out: configuration:    ..  says what driver it is using
[01:49] <GridCube> ok
[01:49] <GridCube> I
[01:49] <GridCube> OK
[01:49] <GridCube> i will have to reinstall xubuntu
[01:49] <GridCube> but not today
[01:50] <fuzzynurfhurter> k i will check it man at the moment i cant get the usb to boot up right now
[01:52] <fuzzynurfhurter> for some reason it wont load from the usb any more even going into the boot selector
[01:54] <fuzzynurfhurter> k im back in to it lol dont know what happened lol
[01:56] <fuzzynurfhurter> driver=rt2800usb
[01:57] <fuzzynurfhurter> it messed up earlier when i was updating the stuff
[02:00] <genii-around> Interesting. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=rt2800usb.ko&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any indicates it's coming in the standard linux-image-<your-version-here>-generic
[02:01] <genii-around> Which makes me think it's not a driver issue, but some networking problem
[02:08] <fuzzynurfhurter>  i dont know man
[02:09] <fuzzynurfhurter> im on a nother pc in a different room updating ubuntu real quick
[02:13] <fuzzynurfhurter> well once i get the grub fixrd for xubuntu i will go in to it and do lshw blah blah and see what it says i dont know it has drivers for it or not
[02:19] <genii-around> fuzzynurfhurter: If the sudo lshw -C network    shows in the configuration:   line the same driver, it is almost certainly some network mis-configuration issue
[02:20] <fuzzynurfhurter> ok i will check it out after it has finished updating i thx ur help man
[02:23] <fuzzynurfhurter> watching movie till update is finished lol
[02:59] <fuzzynurfhurter> i did the xubuntu desktop thing but cant find how to use it or what ever
[03:20] <GridCube> Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[03:21] <GridCube> that pops up when i try to launch xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu
[03:21] <GridCube> and i get a segfault when trying to launch xfce4-appfinder
[03:56] <calligar> I know this might seem really stupid, but I'm trying to copy a cd with xubuntu using xburn, and I can't seem to find any options for it....does the program just not have it and I should be using a different program, or if you can, could anyone help me with this....rather simple task?
[04:00] <calligar> Nevermind, I'll just figure it out...
[04:30] <calligar> Anyone know a good program for copying cds (on xubuntu)
[04:38] <Xanza> Been looking for a list of wifi cards that are compatible with Kubuntu, any help?
[04:38] <Xanza> shit, Xubuntu.
[04:53] <GridCube> :(
[04:53] <GridCube> i dont understand whats going on
[04:53] <GridCube> i created a new user and that seemed to fix stuff
[04:53] <GridCube> but now xchat crashes bad when i try to launch it
[04:53] <GridCube> :(
[04:54] <GridCube> im to tired to keep with this today
[05:18] <asterismo> hi people
[05:18] <asterismo> you know
[05:19] <asterismo> i cannot execute a bash script from a keyboard shortcut
[05:19] <asterismo> but i can from terminal
[05:19] <asterismo> is not supposed to function like a terminal command the keyboard shortcut???
[05:20] <asterismo> someone?
[05:55] <blackgatocatnegr> cursed onboard sound cards-_-
[05:58] <blackgatocatnegr> anyway, I cant make the mic work in xubuntu
[06:13] <xubuntu763> Hello
[06:46] <baizon> hi
[09:10] <zastaph> how come the terminal is grey on grey?
[09:11] <Sysi> design choice to have lower contrast
[09:12] <zastaph> what's wrong with contrast? :)
[09:13] <zastaph> seems colors is an individual preference.. i hope there's some sort of quickfix for me :)
[09:13] <Sysi> right click ->preferences -> colors
[09:15] <zastaph> can terminal colors be set by .bashrc so that I can get a consistent look on all linuxes ?
[09:15] <Sysi> no, terminal emulator would override them
[09:16] <zastaph> hmm, then each time I install a xubuntu guest OS I'd have to manually go to preferences / colors and hand edit them?
[09:16] <SandJ> There is a setting in .bashrc which enables colours, it is disabled by default.  Looking...
[09:17] <SandJ> It may not be what you want, though.       xterm-color) color_prompt=yes;
[09:17] <Sysi> SandJ: that's just for prompt and apps like less
[09:18] <SandJ> Yes, understood, you're right.
[09:18] <Sysi> zastaph: if you're using xfce's terminal, you can just keep copy of ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc somewhere
[09:18] <Sysi> if you just want more contrast than default, just changing text to completely black helps
[09:19] <zastaph> what's the equivalent of ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc on regular Ubuntu ?
[09:20] <Sysi> ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/
[09:20] <Sysi> (same settings don't work for different apps of course)
[09:21] <zastaph> what happened to convention over configuration? :p
[09:55] <zastaph> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/solarized-must-have-color-paletter-for.html
[09:56] <zastaph> that does a bit of what I look for, but seems made specific for gnome terminal
[09:56] <zastaph> i'm looking for a one ring to rule them all solution :)
[10:42] <Chintu> Hey, Can't get any audio or video playing on my Xubuntu :/
[10:43] <Sysi> install xubuntu-restricted -extras
[10:43] <Chintu> But, I am not connected to internet in Xubuntu :(
[10:44] <Sysi> !offline
[10:45] <Chintu> Thanks
[10:46] <Chintu> There is no such package in Precise << It's showing that :/
[10:47] <Chintu> And i can't connect to my Mobile internet... Mobile start the connection and.. Trasfer the data.. But, Xubuntu notification shows "You're now disconnted from the Network" :/
[10:47] <Chintu> I'll download them all.. when, i'll be connected to internet
[11:58] <xubuntu063> Hello
[12:00] <SandJ> Well, that was short and sweet.
[12:08] <nickoe___> Hi
[12:08] <nickoe___> Does xubuntu 12.04 include pae in default image?
[12:08] <Sysi> yes
[12:08] <nickoe___> The ubuntu one did, so I could not install it on my machine
[12:08] <nickoe___> Sysi: so... I can't install xubuntu either?
[12:09] <Sysi> I'm afraid so, really old machine?
[12:09] <nickoe___> Sysi: I got this "This kernel requires following features not present on the cpu pae unable to boot"
[12:09] <knome> 12.04 shouldn't have pae afaik
[12:09] <nickoe___> so how do I get a kernel that does not have pae
[12:10] <knome> we did do that decision at least
[12:10] <nickoe___> knome: the ubuntu 12.04 did
[12:10] <knome> nickoe___, yes, they do, but xubuntu doesn't
[12:10] <Sysi> knome: we're not using same default kernel?
[12:10] <knome> Sysi, nope.
[12:11] <nickoe___> knome: great
[12:11] <knome> Sysi, we wanted the non-pae kernel for 12.04, exactly because we still want to support older machines
[12:11] <nickoe___> :)
[12:11] <knome> Sysi, 12.10+ will have pae too, though, since the non-pae kernel is going to go out of main
[12:11] <Sysi> oh right, I thought non-pae isn't available at all since I was told "pae in enabled in default kernel" and use amd64 myself
[12:12] <knome> nope, it's still default in xubuntu and in main on the precise repositories
[12:12] <nickoe___> On win7 here. But I was trying to install the image on  USB stick, and the unviersal uisb installer did nbot copy fast
[12:12] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/ - the first point in the release notes ;)
[12:13] <nickoe___> knome: so on the next releast there is no option to get non pae`?
[12:13] <knome> nickoe___, unfortunately yes. the xubuntu team doesn't have the manpower to maintain our own kernel, so when ubuntu removes it from main, we got to go the pae-way
[12:13] <nickoe___> so legacy cpu's are no option anymore
[12:13] <nickoe___> :/
[12:13] <knome> well, you can still install 12.04 and upgrade with non-pae, and
[12:14] <knome> i *think* that should work
[12:14] <Sysi> well, 12.04 is LTS
[12:14] <knome> non-pae is still going to be in universe, aiui
[12:14] <knome> yes, that too. and that's the exact reason we decided to keep with non-pae for one more release
[12:14] <knome> if it was non-lts, that would've been as good as next to nothing.
[12:15] <knome> now it makes a difference, really
[12:15] <nickoe___> ok
[12:15] <nickoe___> what is there into maintaining a non-pae kernel?
[12:16] <nickoe___> It it not just a matter of disabling it when compiling the kernel?
[12:16] <knome> nickoe___, aiui, no
[12:16] <knome> nickoe___, but i'm no kernel expert
[12:16] <nickoe___> ok
[12:17] <knome> i think there is #ubuntu-kernel
[12:20] <SandJ> nickoe___, one option for legacy CPUs is: just don't upgrade beyond 12.04
[12:21] <nickoe___> :(
[12:39] <SandJ> Well, they (where 'they' = everyone) keep making operating systems bigger, and slower and with more stuff and eventually any given CPU will reach a point where it cannot cope.  Even Xubuntu.
[12:41] <SandJ> And they way to live without that crippling bloat is to not upgrade.  And not upgrading and sticking with an older op sys and software means you are very unlikely to find any new bugs.
[13:21] <blackgatocatnegr> what waswhat what that live usb maker that worked in other distros besides ubuntu?
[13:26] <blackgatocatnegr> ah right, UNetbootin
[13:28] <josy1982> man a kol me et risa pon
[13:30] <blackgatocatnegr> Swedish?
[15:28] <klymero> bonjour
[15:29] <klymero> il y a quelqu un ?
[15:33] <SandJ> Barely time to identify the language, translate it, and formulate a reply.    Would changing the topic description to include "... and wait a while for a response" help?
[16:13] <GridCube> Things are just wrong
[16:15] <GridCube> i need assistance, for some reason something took over my desktop, its not nautilus, so i cleanse every folder starting with a . on my ~/, the desktop works again, but now if i launch xchat it freezes instantaneously and i cant use it
[16:15] <GridCube> im using lubuntu now
[16:16] <GridCube> to test if it works and it does
[16:16] <GridCube> brb
[16:18] <GridCube> ok
[16:19] <GridCube> so im on xubuntu now. using irssi
[16:23] <SandJ> Seriously?  You have wiped out all the contents of all the hidden folders in your home directory?
[16:26] <GridCube> yes
[16:26] <GridCube> it means nothing really, it was that or a full reinstall
[16:35] <GridCube> ok
[16:35] <GridCube> now it works
[16:35] <GridCube> :/
[17:07] <xubuntu619> hello
[17:11] <GridCube> !hi | xubuntu619
[19:45] <STATE147689> ARP:3193 LYONS ROAD, COCONUT CREEK 33063
[19:46] <Unit193> STATE147689: Something Xubuntu related we can help with?
[19:47] <STATE147689> Everything is clear just a minor error
[19:54] <Myrtti> STATE147689: this isn't your private pastebin
[20:07] <STATE147689> im aware of that
[21:23] <SandJ> Why might the Print Screen key have stopped working as it did?  In my Xubuntu 12.04 it called up a dialogue box that offered save to clipboard / file / upload to ZimigeZ but it does nothing.  Where should I start looking to fix this?  (Google got me nowhere.)
[21:24] <pleia2> SandJ: it's a keyboard shortcut, so I'd look under settings manager > keyboard and "application shortcuts" tab
[21:25] <pleia2> mine has an entry like: xfce4-screenshooter -f Print
[21:26] <SandJ> Spot on!  For some reason, there were only 4 or 5 entries in there for calling apps.  I chose "Reset to Defaults" and now there is 18 of them, including the one you just gave.
[21:28] <SandJ> Hmm.  There's something odd going on with those shortcuts.  "Reset to defaults" added the defaults, I removed the duplicates and when I go back to that screen it has forgotten some others.  Very odd.
[21:29] <SandJ> It appears to be necessary to select "Reset toDefaults", then leave that screen without changing anything, then go back to it.
[21:29] <SandJ> Thank you, pleia2.
[21:31] <gunz4Mipple> i just install xubuntu, but nvidia drivers are still messed up? really bad fps on 6150GO
[21:32] <gunz4Mipple> is there a workaround in xswat or something
[21:36] <SandJ> gunz4Mipple, I have that trouble too with my GeForce GTX 550 Ti - it won't work with the Xubuntu drivers as they come.
[21:38] <SandJ> I have to do Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to a login prompt, log in, download the latest nVidia driver and install that.  Then when I reboot, it works.  But, every time the Xubuntu kernel is upgraded, I have to repeat the process.
[21:39] <SandJ> Ah.  I just read your  post properly - you just get a low FPS - completely different from my problem.  Sorry.
[22:10] <Mokura> If I move my xubuntu installation to a bigger hard drive by using Clonezilla, are there any particular storage-to-swap partition ratios I should be aware of?
[22:10] <Mokura> Or are swap defaults based on installed memory?
[22:25] <th0r> Mokura, swap should be about 1.5 times your ram size. but over about 2 or 3 GB of ram swap is not really needed
[22:25] <Mokura> So I could probably just expand the storage partition to fit the new size if I'm not upgrading RAM.
[22:26] <Mokura> (This is an old netbook we're talking here, so.)
[22:26] <th0r> Mokura, yes. I usually reserve 10-15GB for / and use the rest for /home
[22:26] <th0r> Mokura, I only have 2GB ram, so I set aside 1.5GB for swap, but doubt it will ever be used.
[22:26] <Mokura> Cool, thanks.
[22:27] <Mokura> pfft I'm talking about ~512 MB
[22:27] <Mokura> it's a Thinkpad X40 :D
[22:27] <th0r> Mokura, with 512MB ram I would probably set aside 1.5GB if I had enough hard drive space
[22:27] <Mokura> Alright, will do.
[23:02] <gunz4Mipple> SandJ: i guess there are 2 probs, one is no graphics, one is no accelleration
[23:02] <gunz4Mipple> I thot this was fixed in regular ubuntu base, which im guessing is the same as xubuntus base
[23:21] <gunz4Mipple> argh, adding xswat and then newest nvidia-current there fixed FPS, but my moniter resolutions are all gone except one