[01:26] <matchaw_> hi, has anyone seen this bug with Kmail : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294690
[04:24] <Miguelito> Hey - trying to get my dvd to work right with decryption and all but i seem to be missing something
[05:04] <lorddelta> hey um guys? Though you might like to know the wiki is being flagged as containing malware by google.
[05:04] <lorddelta> Apparently someone doesn't like you guys very much. =/
[05:06] <dnivra> hello. I running Kubuntu 12.04 on a sony vaoi vgnfw260j. My left button on my touchpad has stopped working-the right button works fine. Could someone tell me how can i make the left touchpad button work?
[05:07] <dnivra> i was here sometime back asking about this. few suggestions such as sudo Xorg -configure didn't work. i still can't use left button on touchpad.
[05:07] <dnivra> any help in fixing this would be appreciated.
[05:11] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: Did you check for any hardware issues?
[05:30] <dnivra> phoenix_firebrd: sorry got disconnected. well it stopped working right after the last update of xserver-xorg-input-evdev.
[05:31] <dnivra> it was working fine till then.
[05:31] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: does it work when using a live disk?
[05:32] <dnivra> i didn't try it out. i don't have access to one now.
[05:32] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: try this command  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:33] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: then restart and see if it works
[05:34] <dnivra> phoenix_firebrd: okay will try that.
[05:36] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: waiting
[05:41] <dnivra> phoenix_firebrd: just rebooted. i tried ~25 clicks. two random ones worked.
[05:41] <dnivra> but otherwise, it is still the same. left button still doesn't work.
[05:42] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: can you wait?
[05:42] <dnivra> sure. i'll be here.
[06:14] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: you there?
[06:14] <dnivra> yes phoenix_firebrd
[06:14] <dnivra> just creating a live CD. could only managed to get my hands on a 32bit kubuntu 11.10
[06:14] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: did you check the current xorg for any known issues?
[06:15] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: good
[06:15] <dnivra> you mean check the xorg logs?
[06:18] <dnivra> phoenix_firebrd: did you want me to check xorg logs? i forgot to add that I tried xev and it doesn't detect left click-it detects right click and scroll bar but nothing is registered for left click.
[06:22] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: what is xev? x environment variable?
[06:23] <dnivra> xev prints contents of x events.
[06:23] <dnivra> someone in this channel told me to check it out yesterday.
[06:25] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: ok. tell me when you finished checking with the live disk
[06:25] <dnivra> sure
[06:36] <dnivra> phoenix_firebrd: just booted live cd, rebooted and observed something. a small portion of the touchpad's left button works fine.
[06:36] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: is there a hardware problem?
[06:36] <dnivra> so I guess that's a hardware issue?
[06:37] <dnivra> how can I find out if there is a h/w issue?
[06:38] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: does it work with bois menu>
[06:38] <dnivra> by hardware you meant phsical device has an issue right?
[06:38] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: does it work with bios menu?
[06:39] <dnivra> well I didn't try-i've never booted the bios menu. i'll find out how to enter that and check it out.
[06:39] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: wait
[06:39] <dnivra> and when you said 'does it work', you meant that the cursor works fine right?
[06:39] <dnivra> alright. i'm going to check out the bios menu then.
[06:39] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: do you use grub menu while booting?
[06:40] <dnivra> yes I do.
[06:42] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: i dont think you can check the touchpad hardware state in bios as far as i know, try your luck
[06:43] <dnivra> okay. if I can't, should I do something in grub?
[06:44] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: no
[06:45] <dnivra> okay. let me check the bios settings then.
[06:45] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: are you new to linux?
[06:46] <dnivra> been using it for ~3 years I'd say.
[06:46] <dnivra> slightly more maybe.
[06:46] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: dont mistake me, do you have a windows install disk, vista or windows 7
[06:47] <dnivra> i have a vista recovery partition-i don't have any discs.
[06:47] <dnivra> recovery partition came along with the laptop.
[06:47] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: so you can boot into vista?
[06:48] <dnivra> no I can't-that's only a recovery partition. I've to install it but don't have space to do so :(
[06:48] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: in that case, you better take it to the store and check for any hardware defects
[06:50] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: was your touchpad working normally in 12.04 before the update?
[06:50] <dnivra> phoenix_firebrd: ah okay will do. thaks for your help! i'll get in touch with the store.
[06:50] <dnivra> it was working even after 12.04 install.
[06:51] <dnivra> xserver-xorg-input-evdev (2.7.0-0ubuntu1, 2.7.0-0ubuntu1.2) udpated messed it up I guess. i don't see any other culprit.
[06:52] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: but when using the livecd it should have worked well, its probably the hardware
[06:52] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: good luck
[06:52] <dnivra> oh yeah that is true. thanks! i'll get in touch with the guys!
[06:52] <phoenix_firebrd> dnivra: yw
[08:15] <aetoxx> When visiting https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging, I get warned for malware.
[08:18] <hateball> aetoxx: the whole wiki has been marked as malware by Google
[08:18] <hateball> for whatever reason, I'm guessing some bot-attack
[08:19] <aetoxx> hateball, a bot-attack shouldn't do that.
[08:19] <aetoxx> hateball, only if some actual content containing some virus file which is automatically executed on some platform should trigger that.
[08:20] <aetoxx> hateball, e.g. someone uploading some specially crafted content which breaks a browser.
[08:20] <hateball> Yes, that's what I meant
[08:20] <hateball> something automated that edits public wikis
[08:20] <hateball> but who knows
[08:20] <aetoxx> Is there some way to secure Kubuntu in some way?
[08:21] <aetoxx> I.e., install all kinds of kernel security patches, etc.?
[08:21] <aetoxx> Randomized stacks, etc.
[08:21] <aetoxx> Anti-libc return meaures, etc.
[08:21] <aetoxx> measures*
[08:23] <mofan> hi
[08:27] <Smurphy> aetoxx: yes - install all the updates as they come in.
[08:29] <matchaw_> hi, has anyone seen this bug with Kmail : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294690
[08:32] <aetoxx> Smurphy, and how do I know that the KDE people are not evil?
[08:33] <aetoxx> Smurphy, are there 'signoffs'?
[08:34] <noaXess> hey all
[08:36] <noaXess> in dolphin i have still the problem, that on double clicking a xml, firefox will be called.. instead of kate, which is the default: http://i.imgur.com/Zh2vq.png
[08:36] <noaXess> any idea? thought this was solved?
[08:37] <Smurphy> aetoxx: If you want to check everything - you have to review the code all by yourself. Help yourself-  the entire code is available :)
[08:37] <Smurphy> define signoffs ?
[08:37] <aetoxx> Smurphy, google: signoff site: lkml.org
[08:37] <Smurphy> noaXess: did you configure the default applications ?
[08:38] <noaXess> Smurphy: you mean, right click, open as kate, set default app.. yeas... sometimes..
[08:38] <Smurphy> aetoxx: That should definitly exist. the KDE folks are very organized.
[08:38] <Smurphy> noaXess: Nope - in system settings. (Hold on - have to find it myself first).
[08:39] <noaXess> Smurphy: check my screenshot i made
[08:39] <Smurphy> noaXess: System Settings -> Workspace Appearance and Behavior -> Default Applicatins
[08:39] <Smurphy> Could be it has priority ...
[08:39] <Smurphy> noaXess: Saw the screenshot
[08:39] <noaXess> ok
[08:40] <noaXess> Smurphy: ok.. lmc
[08:49] <ronrom> i have installed kde and login in kde but the gtk apps appear with big fonts, already tried "kcmshell4 kcmgtk" but the fonts remain the same, any help?
[08:52] <Smurphy> ronrom: System Settings -> Style - System Settings -> GTK+ Appearance - just configure it right.
[08:52] <Smurphy> I tell it to use my KDE Fonts in GTK+ aopplications.
[08:52] <ronrom> Smurphy: thats what i said, i runned "kcmshell4 kcmgtk" but the fonts remain the same
[08:53] <Smurphy> you have to log out and log in again.
[08:53] <ronrom> i did
[08:53] <Smurphy> it won't take these on the fly.
[08:53] <Smurphy> then - I have no idea...
[08:58] <noaXess> Smurphy: ok.. i'm in default apps... what you want to know? for Web browser, firefox is set to be default for http and https
[09:01] <Smurphy> What was your problem before ? Editor or Browser ?
[09:02] <noaXess> Smurphy: from dolphin, double click on a xml file, firefox will be used instead of kate
[09:03] <Smurphy> noaXess: Yes - Firefox is better at handling xml code (to view it actually).
[09:03] <noaXess> Smurphy: but i want edit it.. not vew it
[09:03] <noaXess> view ^
[09:03] <noaXess> i want, that kate will be opened if i double click a xml file
[09:05] <aetoxx> How do I install latest Kubuntu on precise?
[09:05] <Smurphy> noaXess: What does the xml file look like ? make a: file bla.xml
[09:05] <aetoxx> I mean, some kind of nightly version.
[09:06] <Smurphy> aetoxx: the last stable one or unstable ?
[09:06] <Smurphy> Got 4.8.3 here ... :)
[09:06] <noaXess> Smurphy: XML document text
[09:07] <aetoxx> Smurphy, unstable, I think.
[09:07] <Smurphy> aetoxx: unstrable is the 4.9.1 branche currently. If you are good with linux/KUbuntu - you'll know how to do it. if not - I advise you to stay with 4.8.3
[09:09] <aetoxx> Smurphy, uhm, no, because I don't know where the ppa or debs are.
[09:10] <Smurphy> noaXess: Are you sure that kate is not embedded in your browsewr  ?
[09:11] <noaXess> Smurphy: ??.. no.. there was/is a bug in dolphin i know.. but can't remember...
[09:12] <Smurphy> noaXess: Guess the bug still exists. Has the same effect here. Will use the default browser to open the file (xml) here too - even though I have emacs configured.
[09:12] <Smurphy> Guess you have to open a bug-report :)
[09:12] <noaXess> Smurphy: yes, thats what i mean ;)
[09:13] <Smurphy> aetoxx: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.8.4 chck this out.
[09:13] <Smurphy> 4.8.4 is out already.
[09:13] <aetoxx> Smurphy, I already have 4.8.4.
[09:14] <Smurphy> aetoxx: then check this out: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.8.90
[09:21] <aetoxx> Smurphy, which .kde does the beta use?
[09:27] <Smurphy> aetoxx: the .kde ...
[09:28] <aetoxx> Smurphy, I mean which settings directory does it use?
[09:32] <aetoxx> nepomuk works when you have <10,000 files to index or when you leave your kde session running for at least 5 days or so.
[09:33] <aetoxx> Even then, it occassionally crashes.
[09:33] <aetoxx> Just look at bugs.kde.org for the tons of problems that people report related to it.
[09:33] <aetoxx> Since most people login and logout and turn off their machines, the model is flawed.
[09:34] <aetoxx> This is, btw, well-known by the developers.
[09:36] <aetoxx> If I would be managing the KDE-product, I would have classified as a nice work in progress experimental tech-preview which has no place on a user's desktop and most importantly no path to any real viable implementation.
[09:37] <aetoxx> Now, anyone disagreeing with me on this is either ignorant or a developer who wants to remain relevant for something which in fact is just a bad idea.
[10:24] <lorddelta> So there's a problem with my gstreamer.
[10:27] <lorddelta> By problem, I mean big giant problem that makes it seem like my system can't play any audio files, even though this is a lie and all my audio works pat fine. Any ideas about what I can do to fix this? I've tried to create a new gstreamer configuration by deleting the registration database and regenerating it with gst-inspect, but the gstreamer validly can't find device-audio/x-vorbis, which is the cause of some of my errors
[10:27] <lorddelta> Anyone know how to fix this?
[10:27] <lorddelta> For now I've just switched backends, vlc is a pretty solid, robust interface, but I'd prefer to use gstreamer if possible...
[10:28] <lorddelta> Since it seems to be more of a defacto framework.
[10:28] <lorddelta> That and if someone/something breaks vlc I'd like to have a backup. :D
[10:53] <erm> hello
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:16] <AndChat251264> Kde is... very ugly.
[12:19] <Smurphy> AndChat251264: Go troll somewhere else ... or - if you don't like it -> Participate to make it better ...
[12:20] <AndChat251264> The window borders just see to chunky and cluttered, especially around buttons
[12:20] <ikonia> AndChat251264: do you need help ?
[12:22] <Smurphy> AndChat251264: -> themes ? Change it.
[12:22] <AndChat251264> Any way to make windows more like gnome? And is kubuntu  close to stable now?  It always crashed lots for me.
[12:23] <Smurphy> Using it all the time - didn't crash in ages ...
[12:23] <Smurphy> AndChat251264: If you want to use Gnome, why don't you use it ?
[12:23] <Smurphy> You have "that" choice under linux
[12:24]  * Smurphy never liked gnome - started with KDE on version pre 1.0 :)
[12:33] <TEldeeb> hello all,
[12:33] <TEldeeb> In ubuntu, I can remove all user settings by deleting .gnome*
[12:34] <TEldeeb> is there a similar thing in kubuntu?
[12:35] <TEldeeb> ??
[12:36] <BluesKaj> TEldeeb, that's pretty drastic , what user settings exactly  , in system setings , in user management ?
[12:37] <TEldeeb> i mean dolphin bookmarks, panels, ..
[12:38] <qbit> TEldeeb: each user in their home directory most KDE configs are stored in .kde directory, if that's what you mean
[12:38] <TEldeeb> yeah .. i'll try it ..
[12:38] <TEldeeb> thanks
[12:38] <qbit> don't have to kill the entire thing
[12:38] <qbit> for extreme testing you can just rename it and log out and back in again
[12:38] <TEldeeb> what's ".kdevduchain/"
[12:39] <TEldeeb> thanks qbit
[12:40] <qbit> but under .kde is a directory share/config, you'll find them all in there,  you can either rename or delete individual configs
[12:40] <qbit> if you delete one and log out of KDE and back in again you'll get it replaced with a default one
[12:41] <BluesKaj> i get the impression that it's the defaults that he wants to change :)
[12:42] <TEldeeb> no, i just want to get back to defaults
[12:42] <TEldeeb> i shall try
[13:08] <sean_> ello
[13:09] <sean_> hello
[13:09] <BluesKaj> hello
[14:08] <brad_> I can't get java to install. I've been trying different script from forums and whatnot but it's not happening...
[14:10] <BluesKaj> brad_, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[14:11]  * genii-around slides BluesKaj a coffee ( or tea if you prefer )
[14:12] <BluesKaj> hey thanks genii-around , coffee is great :)
[14:12] <genii-around> Anytime :-)
[14:15] <brad_> no, I'll try
[14:21] <brad_> niiiice, it's working now, thanks
[15:41] <amar> hi all
[15:43] <amar> you are on ubununtu right
[15:43] <amar> you are on ubununtu right ?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> kubuntu support here , amar
[15:43] <DarthFrog> Good morning amar.  This is the Kubuntu support channel.
[15:44] <amar> ok
[15:44] <DarthFrog> amar: If you want support for Ubuntu, please try #Ubuntu.
[15:44] <amar> no i'm using kubunutu
[15:45] <bazhang> kubuntu
[15:45] <DarthFrog> Smart lad.   And good looking, too. :-)
[15:45] <amar> it's a message from another user who made me think so
[15:47] <amar> is there a way to remove kwallet, it's boring me, i've tried apt-get remove purge, but he is not gone
[15:48] <DarthFrog> If you remove kwallet, you will be even more bothered with applications asking for passwords.
[15:49] <genii-around> I just give kwallet no password and it doesn't bug me again
[15:49] <amar> i suppressed his asking effect, but he is not gone by itself, and no it's better without him
[15:49] <amar> the big prob is with wirelless networks
[15:49] <amar> i have about a dozen with different passwords
[15:50] <amar> at the time when i used ubunutu i was good but now !
[16:20] <lordievader> Good evening
[16:23] <genii-around> lordievader: Good afternoon!
[16:26] <lordievader> genii-around: Noon has already past here, it waved his(/her?/it
[16:26] <lordievader> 's?) goodbye
[16:27] <genii-around> lordievader: I'm on GMT-4 here
[16:37] <qw[UA]> /join #help
[16:37] <qw[UA]> why i am not jiun in the channel ?
[16:37] <genii-around> use only one /
[16:37] <genii-around> Hm
[16:38] <k0s> join*
[16:39] <lordievader> qw[UA]: Not sure if this applies, but maybe you have a server commands field, if so you should try it there.
[16:46] <qw[UA]> help me please
[16:47] <qw[UA]> i joinid in russian server but i see ierogliph
[16:47] <qw[UA]> what i am use codepage ?
[16:49] <genii-around> utf8 usually
[17:13] <jithin> hi
[17:14] <genii-around> jithin: Hello. If you have some question regarding your Kubuntu, please just ask the channel in general and someone will hopefully be able to resolve it.
[17:15] <jithin> is any diary writing  application for kubuntu  ?
[17:15] <Miguelito> Hello - can someone explain how in K3B to write a DVD image? I see the RIP options but it doesnt seem to do anything
[17:16] <DarthFrog> Miguelito: Under the "Tools" menu, will be "Burn Image".
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, or right click on the image file and choose open with k3b
[17:20] <Miguelito> The Burn Image is to write to a DVD - I want to RIP the DVD and put an image on my computer
[17:21] <Miguelito> Sorry for not speaking it clearly
[17:25] <genii-around> !info almanah | Jikan
[17:26] <genii-around> Bah tab-fail
[17:26] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, no need to rip the image with k3b , just copy it to your HDD
[17:26] <genii-around> Jikan: Apologies, misdirect, was for jithin but they left
[17:29] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2769/ubuntu_how_to_create_iso_image_from_cd_dvd/
[17:30] <BluesKaj> genii-around, have you ever tried using dd to copy a dvd to a drive ?
[17:30] <genii-around> BluesKaj: I find something like sudo dd if=dev/sr0 of=filename.iso   usually works
[17:30] <BluesKaj> genii-around, :>)
[17:31] <genii-around> put a leading / there in front of dev/sr0 , typo ...
[17:32] <BluesKaj> yup , asamof I have used that command. I have in my CLI_Commands text file
[17:32] <Miguelito> BluesKaj: Thanks!
[17:33] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, read genii-around`'s post as well , it's probly easier to use
[17:37] <bimmel> Hi, I try to connect my sshd over internet but the connections time out before any authentication takes place. The machine is directly connected and the port is opened.
[17:40] <genii-around> bimmel: 2.171.1.11 does not seem to be reachable
[17:40] <bimmel> thats not the ip
[17:40] <bimmel> oh well it is, it changed secs ago
[17:40] <bimmel> its port 666
[17:41] <genii-around> bimmel: Ah, OK. Interestingly, traceroute on that ip shows it is being routed through ip numbers which are reserved for private use
[17:42] <bimmel> private use of whom? its just a mobile connection
[17:42] <BluesKaj> genii-around, 2.171.1.112 is a generic IP ,probly a german ISP
[17:42] <bimmel> yes
[17:42] <genii-around> bimmel: traceroute results from here: http://pastebin.com/YUdYZmHe
[17:43] <genii-around> ( it just sticks on the last address forever )
[17:43] <genii-around> So it looks like some routing isssue and not some sshd issue
[17:43] <BluesKaj> genii-around, bimmel , http://www.infosniper.net/index.php?ip_address=2.171.1.112&map_source=1&overview_map=1&lang=1&map_type=1&zoom_level=7
[17:43] <bimmel> thats odd
[17:44] <bimmel> it even happens when I try to connect on my wan adress from the same machine
[17:45] <genii-around> BluesKaj: I usually just do: whois <IP/FQDN>   at command-line :-)
[17:46] <bimmel> how could i resolve that? i dont use any 192.168.17.0 network. so it does not reach me
[17:47] <BluesKaj> yeah genii-around I use traceroute as well when the IP won't resolve on infosniper
[17:50] <BluesKaj> genii-around, whois in the terminal doesn't work here, is it part of apackage ?
[17:54] <genii-around> BluesKaj: The package is same name
[17:54] <genii-around> work, afk
[18:11] <kubuntu> .
[18:12] <BluesKaj> yes this is kubuntu , support
[18:13] <genii-around> BluesKaj: His issue looks like some network misconfiguration starting at DTAG.DE
[18:14] <genii-around> ( bimmel )
[18:15] <BluesKaj> genii-around, I didn't understand his sshd reference
[18:16] <genii-around> BluesKaj: "<bimmel> Hi, I try to connect my sshd over internet but the connections time out before any authentication takes place. The machine is directly connected and the port is opened."
[18:17] <genii-around> Was his original question... So I tried to reach port 22 on his ip, which failed... so then traceroute to see where it ends... then I discover somewhere in between is routing stuff through private IP ranges and traffic will never get to hip IP
[18:17] <genii-around> *his/her IP
[18:19] <BluesKaj> genii-around, he mentioned the port was 666
[18:20] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Yes, you can make ssh daemon run on any port you want instead of 22
[18:20] <genii-around> Something higher than 1024 might have been better...
[18:28] <lordievader> Good evening
[19:15] <JoeSomebody> hi, change partition is resize? and if so is it safe? wanna cut win7 drive in half and install
[19:17] <BluesKaj> JoeSomebody, yes , how large is the partition?
[19:17] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: do it from a livecd and reduce the risk
[19:17] <lordievader> JoeSomebody: It is safe, if you have a verified backup. Also use gparted, the kde partion editor is not very great.
[19:17] <genii-around> Might also want to do a chkdsk from in windows first
[19:18] <JoeSomebody> about 500gb for some reason it says 430
[19:18] <JoeSomebody> so gparted resize bofore install is recommended?
[19:18] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: it's up to you when
[19:19] <JoeSomebody> ok will do a backup , and then gparted
[19:19] <ikonia> genii-around's tip is VERY important if you are changing ntfs
[19:19] <JoeSomebody> just wanna do whatever is best
[19:19] <JoeSomebody> yes chkdsk understood
[19:19] <lordievader> JoeSomebody: It has been my experience that the kde one hangs and not does any resizing, gparted would resize it fine. Note I am talking about an external drive.
[19:20] <BluesKaj> JoeSomebody, hope you have patience , resizing can take many hrs ...I also prefer to repartition before installing another OS ..as suggested gparted live-cd is a good  method
[19:21] <BluesKaj> heh, more advice there than enough :)
[19:21] <JoeSomebody> yeah i know it takes awhile on that size
[19:21] <JoeSomebody> acer was good they used to make a data partition on half of it was easy with those ones
[19:25] <rainer_> hi
[19:26] <lordievader> Hey rainer_ how are you?
[19:26] <Miguelito> What would be the command to show the list of devices on my system - for example /dev/sda1
[19:26] <lordievader> Miguelito: Do you mean sudo fdisk -l?
[19:26] <Miguelito> lordievader: does that show the device list?
[19:27] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, df -h
[19:29] <Miguelito> BluesKaj: thanks again
[19:33] <Miguelito> BluesKaj: the link you sent me to rip a dvd using the cat command returned a input/output error
[19:39] <BluesKaj> Miguelito,yes , using dd is a better method , sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=filename.iso
[19:45] <Miguelito> BluesKaj: It completed the process like in a second - i looked in the dir and it looks like the file is there - its like 850megs - is there a way to verify it?
[19:46] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, yes use VLC , it plays multimedia iso files
[19:46] <genii-around> !iso
[19:46] <BluesKaj> if it's amedia file
[19:46] <Miguelito> kk
[19:46] <BluesKaj> I assume it's a media , Miguelito
[19:47] <BluesKaj> media file
[19:48] <Miguelito> BluesKaj: yes it is but it did nothing when i tried to load it with VLC
[19:49] <Miguelito> BluesKaj: when i went to load it from the dvd it worked
[19:50] <genii-around> The newer DVDs sometimes use a protection scheme now where they make a track at the beginning which has nothing on it and close that off, then make a second track with the actual data on it
[19:51] <BluesKaj> 850mb doen't copy instantly , Miguelito it's probly still copying
[19:51] <Miguelito> BluesKaj: yea i know that but i havent seen any activity on dvd or hdisk
[19:52] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, do you have libdvdcss2 installed ..the dvd may ne DRM'd
[19:53] <BluesKaj> ne=be
[19:53] <BluesKaj> geni what's the workaround if the phony track is on the dvd?
[19:53] <BluesKaj> genii-around,^
[19:54] <Miguelito> yes i do
[19:54] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:56] <Miguelito> BluesKaj: im so use to windows that i wasnt reading that number as raw data - its only 847k not megs - sorrys its been like 10-12 years since working with Linux
[19:58] <Scunizi> Is there a way within Dolphin using split screen/directory to quickly move the right pane to the same directory as the left?
[20:01] <genii-around> Miguelito: Do you have more than one dvd drive?
[20:05] <Miguelito> genii-around: no sir
[20:05] <Miguelito> genii-around: it works fine - i have no problem copying - i just want to be able to write ISO's for data storage
[20:06] <BluesKaj> what kind of data Miguelito ?
[20:06] <genii-around> Miguelito: Yes, I understand. At our house we make iso files and store them on a central machine which can stream to whichever computers in the house
[20:11] <Miguelito> BluesKaj: its a  playable dvd
[20:12] <Miguelito> genii-around: not sure why i am having such a hard time :(
[20:14] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, right click on the iso, open with vlc , if you have vlc installed
[20:14] <genii-around> Miguelito: Well, you can also use k3b to make an iso.
[20:15] <Miguelito> BluesKaj: its not and ISO - its a regular DVD
[20:16] <Miguelito> genii-around: i am using k3b to copy but have not been able to get it to make the ISO - probably because im not familiar with it
[20:17] <BluesKaj> !iso
[20:18] <genii-around> Miguelito: Tools... Copy Medium...check off "Create Image" under options tab...specify a path in your home directory in the image tab
[20:18] <BluesKaj> sorry Miguelito . I misunderstood /:
[20:19] <genii-around> Miguelito: Make sure "remove image" is *NOT* checked off in the options tab
[20:19] <Miguelito> BluesKaj: np sir - thanks to both of  you for helping this rusty old linux guy out :)
[20:23] <Miguelito> genii-around: do i do a rip or a copy - i seen the check box that your talking about but that was when i was copying
[20:23] <genii-around> Miguelito: copy medium ... the first one at the top of the menu usually
[20:24] <gits1225> Some help here please. I unticked Apply colors to non-KDE4 applications from Application Appearance -> Colors and now the fonts don't look the same.
[20:25] <gits1225> I tried changing to defaults and still doesn't revert to how the fonts looked in the default install.
[20:38] <Miguelito> genii-around: BluesKaj, thank you both for your help - i am testing a burn from the ISO now - will let you but i feel confident
[20:47] <Miguelito> genii-around: BluesKaj- it was successful
[20:48] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, good to hear
[20:48] <genii-around> Miguelito: Cool.
[20:49] <Miguelito> Does any IRC client come highly recommended - currently using the default of Quassel
[20:49] <maco> i like quassel, but i use it with the "core" running on my server and a client on my desktop that connects, so i dont miss what happens when i'm offline
[20:50] <JoeSomebody> ok now it says my free area is unusable
[20:51] <JoeSomebody> after a resize
[20:51] <JoeSomebody> did chkdsk, resized under linux in another machine
[20:52] <JoeSomebody> and then put drive back in, it says my free area is unusable
[20:53] <Miguelito> maco: yea its pretty straight forward just not sure how feature rich it is
[21:00] <BluesKaj> what says it's unusable JoeSomebody ?
[21:00] <JoeSomebody> the unallocated area
[21:01] <JoeSomebody> during install
[21:03] <JoeSomebody> a different distro i tried while waiting says its "empty" kubuntu says unusable, i seen this before, don't remember ...
[21:03] <BluesKaj> joe did you try to format the unallocated partition?
[21:04] <JoeSomebody> i see the problem now toshiba has made too many partitions
[21:04] <amar> hey lamine
[21:04] <JoeSomebody> goodbye windows recovery crap
[21:04] <amar> are you there
[21:05]  * JoeSomebody hovers over the delete key ...
[21:05] <maco> Miguelito: i really like the feature where you can see whats going on in all the channels you're joined to at once
[21:09] <Miguelito> maco, i just switched to XChat
[21:10] <BluesKaj> Miguelito, i was going to mention Konversation
[21:11] <BluesKaj> maco, what feature is that ? ..altho I'm not fan of sidebars
[21:12] <maco> BluesKaj: click the checkbox in View -> Chat Monitor. it's not a sidebar. it splits the conversation pane, so all channels are up top and current channel is bottom
[21:13] <cham> hello
[21:13] <maco> BluesKaj_: did you see that?
[21:13] <maco> cham: hi
[21:16] <BluesKaj> maco, yeah , I did , only got one monitor up besides the default
[21:20] <BluesKaj> I didn't bother configuring the chat list
[21:21] <amar> is there any command help in irc
[21:22] <amar> something like --help in terminal
[21:22] <BluesKaj> amar, pls explain in more detail
[21:23] <amar> if someone is stuck or forgoot a command like /msg nickserver identify, how to make the list of command appear
[21:24] <BluesKaj> amar, /nickserv help
[21:24] <amar> thanks
[21:24] <BluesKaj> in the server textbox
[21:25] <amar> thank you blueskaj
[21:25] <BluesKaj> you're welcome amar
[21:36] <mikeeey> my laptop is overheating with kernel 3.1, is this problem solved in the kernel provided in kubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:36] <mikeeey> or in 3.4 ?
[21:37] <genii-around> mikeeey: What makes you think the overheating is related to the kernel you are running?
[21:37] <mikeeey> this is what I have read
[21:37] <mikeeey> over the past 15 minutes
[21:39] <mikeeey> it's not that I'm using a CPU / GPU intensive app, and the laptop stays cool on Windows
[21:46] <genii-around> mikeeey: There is also an opensuse channel on freenode to ask in, since that's what you're using.. #opensuse
[21:47] <mikeeey> I thought this is a well known issue on all distros
[22:32] <rportal> hi
[23:43] <f1zz3r> i know this question is too bad :X   how can i open a folder in konsole?
[23:44] <genii-around> f1zz3r: You can't really "open" them in that sense. You can list what's in them however, by: ls foldernamehere
[23:45] <f1zz3r> my problem is i cant find /home/<user>/.kde/Autostart
[23:46] <genii-around> f1zz3r: The folder .kde is hidden from ls command because it begins with a period.
[23:48] <genii-around> f1zz3r: However, it does exist. If you are in konsole, and you want to go into that directory: cd ( by itself, that puts you in home directory) , then cd .kde/Autostart
[23:48] <f1zz3r> so i do---> ls /home/<user>/.kde/Autostart???????????
[23:48] <genii-around> f1zz3r: Yes, that is another way, specifying the entire path
[23:49] <f1zz3r> but i dont want to open the folder in konsole
[23:49] <f1zz3r> i want to open the folder
[23:49] <genii-around> f1zz3r: If you cd to some directory, that means you are entering into it. Then when you do the ls command, you do not need to specify the entire path
[23:51] <f1zz3r> yah i know... i already have done ls /home/<user>/.kde/Autostart but nothing happens.. i know i am a noob but the question is how to open this in normal way
[23:52] <f1zz3r> in dolphin how can i see hiden folderS?
[23:54] <genii-around> f1zz3r: If you put another / with an asterisk after Autostart  like: ls /home/$(whoami)/.kde/Autostart/*          does it say file not found?
[23:55] <f1zz3r> ls: cannot access /home/f1zz3r/.kde/Autostart/*: No such file or directory
[23:55] <f1zz3r> :S
[23:56] <genii-around> f1zz3r: So it means that directory is empty