inashdeen | hi, I would like to enquire, how do i send my program for consideration by motu to put in ubuntu software cneter? | 00:31 |
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RAOF | inashdeen: It depends on what you're after; what is your program, and what is your desired outcome? | 00:32 |
inashdeen | RAQF : can i explain it here? ok, it is a keyboard layout for traditional malay (jawi). it is based on the arabic writing. this is the link to the project. https://launchpad.net/jawi/jawi-keyboard-0.5.7-precise currently, i just built a .deb. i tried to make a ppa, but it requires source. my program doesnt have a source | 00:35 |
dholbach | good morning | 06:59 |
ajmitch | morning dholbach | 07:02 |
dholbach | hey ajmitch | 07:02 |
vibhav | The number of items in the sponsor queue is increasing again >_< | 07:13 |
* vibhav adds some more items | 07:14 | |
micahg | vibhav: that's what happens over the weekend, it should go down again as people do their piloting shifts (unless we're getting a swarm of contributions, which isn't really a bad thing), high number in queue isn't as bad as old requests not being addressed | 07:20 |
vibhav | exactly | 07:21 |
micahg | in fact, I'd posit that a large queue is good as long as they're all recent submissions :) | 07:21 |
vibhav | Its good that there not old requests | 07:21 |
iulian | Morning dholbach, evening ajmitch. | 08:02 |
dholbach | hi iulian | 08:02 |
ajmitch | hi iulian | 08:02 |
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LoT | not sure if you get bug notifications, but... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-django-openid-auth/+bug/1017462 | 12:51 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1017462 in python-django-openid-auth (Ubuntu) "Please remove python-django-openid-auth from the repos" [Undecided,New] | 12:51 |
* LoT was watching the announcements list, noticed that the package "maintainer" for this was MOTU | 12:51 | |
tumbleweed | oh, good, was waiting for that | 12:51 |
LoT | wasnt sure how to mark it, so i just came here to say "Here, its yours, deal with it" </delegation> | 12:52 |
LoT | (in terms of status / importance) | 12:52 |
tumbleweed | it's a special, workflow bug | 12:53 |
* LoT returns to multitasking, watching the bugs announcements list and working on a report for work. | 12:53 | |
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arand | How would I go about flagging bug #540035 for "please-SRU-with-Debian-stable-sync" | 14:18 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 540035 in pango-graphite (Ubuntu) "pango-graphite causes several applications to crash" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540035 | 14:18 |
tumbleweed | we don't actually sync into stable (that I've ever seen) | 14:21 |
tumbleweed | you'd just prepare an SRU as usual | 14:22 |
badfox | dholbach, ping : After uploading a PPA into my launchpad from terminal , how much time is going to taken for applying changes in PPA ? | 14:25 |
dholbach | badfox, if you have a look at your ppa page, it should give you an estimate | 14:26 |
dholbach | badfox, do you have a link to your ppa? | 14:26 |
badfox | yes dholbach | 14:27 |
dholbach | can you share it? :-P | 14:27 |
badfox | dholbach, https://launchpad.net/~genupulas/+archive/accountsservice-0.6.21 and i have uploaded successfully | 14:28 |
badfox | dholbach, i have seen the message too states that uploaded successfully | 14:28 |
dholbach | badfox, did you get an 'accepted' email after uploading? | 14:28 |
dholbach | I'm asking because I can't see anything on the ppa page | 14:29 |
dholbach | maybe you could ask the fine people in #launchpad? | 14:29 |
arand | tumbleweed: Ah, ok, I figured it would be nicer in the case it was possible. | 14:29 |
badfox | dholbach, yeah thats what i am also saying . i have uploaded successfully . i am sure . i have seen the message too in my terminal , | 14:30 |
dholbach | no, not in the terminal | 14:30 |
dholbach | an email | 14:30 |
badfox | ok i will ask there dholbach | 14:30 |
tumbleweed | you should get a ne-mail within 5 mins | 14:30 |
dholbach | ok good | 14:30 |
badfox | dholbach, i think i didnt | 14:30 |
tumbleweed | if you don't you didn't sign it correctly | 14:30 |
dholbach | or you don't have your associated key in LP | 14:31 |
LordOfTime | that may be the case | 14:31 |
dholbach | ok, you have gpg keys in LP | 14:31 |
badfox | dholbach, No , just now i have got a mail | 14:31 |
badfox | saying as rejected :( | 14:31 |
badfox | lemme try one more time | 14:31 |
LordOfTime | badfox: hwat did it say | 14:31 |
dholbach | does the mail give a reason? | 14:31 |
LordOfTime | it should say why it was rejected | 14:31 |
badfox | dholbach, yes it does "Rejected: | 14:32 |
badfox | Unable to find distroseries: unstable | 14:32 |
badfox | Further error processing not possible because of a critical previous error. | 14:32 |
badfox | " | 14:32 |
LordOfTime | use quantal, precise, natty, oneiric, etc. | 14:32 |
LordOfTime | not "unstable" | 14:32 |
LordOfTime | (the PPAs cant yet build Debian Unstable packages) | 14:32 |
badfox | yeah | 14:32 |
badfox | thank you dholbach LordOfTime | 14:32 |
dholbach | anytime | 14:33 |
badfox | :) | 14:33 |
LordOfTime | mhm | 14:33 |
arand | Does a SRU need a changelog entry, or would it be reasonable to use only the Debian changelog for a SRU that is a straight sync from Debian? | 14:51 |
tumbleweed | every upload needs a changelog entry | 14:52 |
tumbleweed | for this case, you can just copy Debian's changelog entry (crediting it) but change the version and release to appropriate values | 14:52 |
tumbleweed | it also has to close the SRU bug, naturally | 14:53 |
arand | tumbleweed: So I'd replace the Debian one or add an extra after it? | 14:55 |
tumbleweed | replace it | 14:56 |
arand | Hmm, 0.9.3-0ubuntu0.1 is appropriate? (0.9.3-0.1 is the based-off package in Debian, 0.9.2-3.1 current in Ubuntu). | 15:04 |
tumbleweed | so you're SRUing anew upstream release? | 15:10 |
tumbleweed | yes, that seems an appropriate version | 15:10 |
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arand | tumbleweed: Yes, but should *hopefully* qualify as microrelease. | 15:12 |
Zhenech | arand, uhm, 0.9.3-0.1 >> 0.9.3-0ubuntu0.1 afaict | 15:13 |
Zhenech | % dpkg --compare-versions 0.9.3-0.1 le 0.9.3-0ubuntu0.1 says so | 15:14 |
arand | Zhenech: Hmm, I'm wondering if that would be a prolem though... | 15:17 |
tumbleweed | arand: what package? | 15:18 |
arand | Though using 0.9.3-0.1ubuntu0.1 might be prudent, still. | 15:18 |
arand | pango-graphite | 15:18 |
Zhenech | arand, not "ubuntu1" then? | 15:18 |
badfox | dholbach, you here ? Success , i have uploaded :D | 15:19 |
dholbach | excellent | 15:19 |
arand | 0.1 is a SRU-indicator afaik. | 15:19 |
Zhenech | ah ok | 15:19 |
tumbleweed | arand: there is a 0.9.3-0.1ubuntu1 in natty | 15:19 |
badfox | dholbach, one more thing i wanna do , lemme see | 15:20 |
badfox | dholbach, :) | 15:20 |
tumbleweed | so 0.9.3-0ubuntu0.1 should be fine | 15:20 |
Rhonda | If it is based on 0.9.3-0.1 it should be 0.9.3-0.1ubuntu0.1 | 15:21 |
Rhonda | 0.9.3-0ubuntu0.1 is smaller as 0.9.3-0.1, as Zhenech pointed out. :) | 15:21 |
tumbleweed | which is what we want | 15:21 |
Rhonda | But it's a wrong "upstream" version part. | 15:22 |
Rhonda | 0.9.3-0.1~ubuntu0.1 it should be then? | 15:22 |
tumbleweed | it's an SRU, getting the Debian revision rnight is less important than beingh smaller than the next Ubuntu release | 15:22 |
Rhonda | So changing the "upstream" version is correct? | 15:23 |
Rhonda | The next ubuntu release has 0.9.3-0.1ubuntu1 I thought? | 15:23 |
arand | But 0.9.3-0ubuntu0.1 vs 0.9.3-0.1ubuntu0.1 doesn't matter in Ubuntu, right? | 15:23 |
tumbleweed | Rhonda: yes | 15:24 |
Rhonda | So being precise doesn't matter in Ubuntu? :) | 15:24 |
Zhenech | Rhonda, not since quantal :> | 15:24 |
tumbleweed | meh, I can't say I care too much abou tupstream versions in SRUs | 15:24 |
tumbleweed | it's a fork in the revision history that'll go away at some point | 15:24 |
Rhonda | So if the next ubuntu release has 0.9.3-0.1ubuntu1 why is 0.9.3-0.1ubuntu0.1 being considered an issue? | 15:24 |
tumbleweed | 0.9.3-0.1ubuntu0.1 would be fine | 15:25 |
arand | I'll go with that | 15:25 |
Rhonda | There is a guideline for the versioning, and I don't understand the reason for why it is wanted to ignore that. | 15:25 |
tumbleweed | the guidelines for versioning in SRUs don't cover new upstream versions | 15:25 |
Rhonda | It covers how it ensures proper upgrading possibilities, and that is the 0.1 at the end? | 15:26 |
arand | Well, I'm kind of basing it off the Debian version but still not, at the same time (since removing the Debian changelog entry for 0.9.3-0.1, which seems a bit odd) | 15:26 |
Rhonda | And/or the addition of the release name, which sorts nicely? | 15:27 |
tumbleweed | arand: I'd keep the changolg entry if you are using that version | 15:27 |
Rhonda | Removing changelog entry? So removing the changes? | 15:27 |
arand | Right, heh. | 15:27 |
tumbleweed | Rhonda: I tend to just consider SRUs as a targetted patch to a stable ubuntu release. Even if the patch makes it equivalent to a known debian version. I'll append an SRU .1 to the version / bump an existing one. I'll only touch the upstream version if I'm uploading a .orig too, which is fairly rare for SRUs | 15:30 |
Laney | I think I've had enough of apt-cacher-ng | 15:31 |
Laney | what's a good alternative? | 15:31 |
tumbleweed | squid? (with totally different semantics) | 15:32 |
Laney | heh | 15:32 |
Laney | i'm more tempted to buy some extra storage and run mirrors | 15:32 |
tumbleweed | yes, I have a home mirror. it rocks | 15:33 |
jpds | Laney: squid-deb-proxy(-client). | 15:33 |
tumbleweed | but it will be a little more stale | 15:33 |
Laney | jpds: how painful is it to configure? | 15:33 |
jpds | Laney: http://www.jorgecastro.org/2010/02/04/introducing-squid-deb-proxy/ | 15:35 |
Laney | ta | 15:36 |
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