| reisio | hrmmm, can't /join #ubuntu | 00:41 |
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| bazhang | reisio, you were ban forwarded here | 01:05 |
| reisio | why's that? | 01:06 |
| bazhang | telling people to google it, and being less than helpful from the look of it | 01:06 |
| reisio | I haven't told anyone to google anything for ages, if ever | 01:07 |
| reisio | and since the channel is publicly logged, that is a matter of public record | 01:08 |
| bazhang | and the unhelpful bit? | 01:11 |
| reisio | show me where I was unhelpful | 01:12 |
| bazhang | you'd better discuss with the op who banned you. | 01:12 |
| reisio | I tried to, he ignored me | 01:13 |
| bazhang | when | 01:13 |
| reisio | when I got kicked | 01:13 |
| bazhang | well there is an easy way to resolve this, but being contentious wont be that way | 01:14 |
| reisio | contentious? Is that what you call having no idea why you're banned? | 01:14 |
| bazhang | so I'd suggest waiting a bit, and discussing with him at some later point | 01:14 |
| reisio | what's the easy way to resolve it? | 01:14 |
| bazhang | oh I have a clear idea. | 01:14 |
| reisio | some magical later point when he won't just ignore me? | 01:14 |
| reisio | a clear idea of what? | 01:14 |
| bazhang | why you were banned. | 01:15 |
| reisio | do tell | 01:15 |
| bazhang | better you let all parties concerned cool off and come back later to discuss. | 01:15 |
| reisio | well I'm not "hot", and an op that's hot shouldn't be an op, but seeing as you won't help me and the op in question is just ignoring me, I s'pose I have little choice but to sit here and jabber with you | 01:16 |
| bazhang | not interested. | 01:16 |
| reisio | I can see that, baz | 01:16 |
| reisio | why was I forwarded to a channel of people who aren't interested in talking with me? | 01:17 |
| bazhang | we don't stay on call 24/7 | 01:17 |
| reisio | you don't have to | 01:17 |
| reisio | you (personally) are here right now | 01:17 |
| bazhang | indeed. it's volunteer work. | 01:17 |
| elky | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/23/%23ubuntu.html#t09:21 | 01:17 |
| reisio | so you aren't volunteering right now? :) | 01:18 |
| bazhang | not interested in a debate on who's right or wrong. you were banned, and then forwarded here. | 01:18 |
| reisio | why was I forwarded here? | 01:18 |
| bazhang | seems like you want to argue the fine points more than get the ban removed. | 01:19 |
| reisio | uhhh... | 01:19 |
| reisio | how does it seem that? | 01:19 |
| reisio | I would like the ban removed | 01:19 |
| reisio | please remove it :) | 01:19 |
| elky | Man, I wish life worked like that. | 01:20 |
| bazhang | not without some recognition of why you got banned | 01:20 |
| bazhang | reisiothemacguy: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22mac%22%20%22grub2%22 | 01:20 |
| bazhang | oCeanreisio: please don't send people to google. They know google exists, they come here for specific answers to specific questions | 01:21 |
| reisio | oCean didn't ban me | 01:21 |
| elky | bazhang, actually, the bit he directly got banned for that wasn't just bad reputation was http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/24/%23ubuntu.html#t08:29 | 01:21 |
| bazhang | oCean: do they really... and where is your alternative | 01:21 |
| bazhang | the last was you | 01:21 |
| elky | someone asked for "a good av" and so he told them to use something that was useless. | 01:22 |
| reisio | I did not | 01:22 |
| reisio | clamav is a good av | 01:22 |
| reisio | it's a superb av | 01:22 |
| elky | It's not what he was looking for, however. You were aware of that. You still told him to use it. | 01:23 |
| reisio | I was not aware of that, he specifically asked for an av | 01:23 |
| reisio | to my eyes that means he was specifically looking for one | 01:24 |
| elky | You're not a good helper then. | 01:24 |
| elky | You should have asked what the av was for, as that's what a good helper would have done first. | 01:24 |
| elky | Rather than giving misleading advice. | 01:24 |
| reisio | it wasn't misleading | 01:24 |
| elky | Yes. Yes it was. | 01:24 |
| reisio | uhhhh, no it wasn't | 01:25 |
| reisio | are you serious? | 01:25 |
| elky | Yes. | 01:25 |
| reisio | how is telling someone a good av when they ask for one misleading? | 01:25 |
| elky | In windows land, what are AVs for? | 01:25 |
| reisio | they're for anti-virus | 01:26 |
| elky | In what capacity? | 01:26 |
| reisio | in what capacity? | 01:26 |
| reisio | they detect viruses | 01:26 |
| reisio | I assume this questioning is meant to reveal the answer to my question about how it was misleading? | 01:26 |
| reisio | perhaps not? | 01:28 |
| elky | In the same capacity as an antivirus on linux? | 01:28 |
| reisio | there is a broad overlap, sure | 01:28 |
| reisio | AV is about the same on any platform, find viruses, optionally do something about them | 01:29 |
| reisio | as I assume you know | 01:29 |
| elky | So, you're saying that clamav on linux will protect the computer in the same way that an av on windows does? | 01:31 |
| reisio | it detects viruses the same way it does on Windows | 01:32 |
| elky | That's not what I asked. | 01:32 |
| elky | wrapidsCould someone point me in the direction of a good AV?08:29 | 01:33 |
| elky | reisiowrapids: clamav08:29 | 01:33 |
| elky | ikoniawrapids: you shouldn't need one for linux08:30 | 01:33 |
| elky | ikoniareisio: that will not protect his linux machine08:30 | 01:33 |
| elky | reisioikonia: the sun rises in the east08:30 | 01:33 |
| elky | ikoniareisio: what ?08:30 | 01:33 |
| elky | reisioikonia: thought it was state the obvious time08:30 | 01:33 |
| reisio | the exact same way? No, Windows and Linux are different operating systems | 01:33 |
| reisio | elky: you shouldn't need cinelerra for Linux, either | 01:33 |
| reisio | are you saying I'd have been banned for saying 'cinelerra' to someone asking for a video editor? | 01:33 |
| elky | No, I'm saying you are well aware that there are different use cases between linux and windows, and did not clarify in the least. | 01:34 |
| reisio | clarify what | 01:35 |
| reisio | he didn't even respond to me | 01:35 |
| reisio | wrapids | 01:35 |
| reisio | didn't seem like he was confused about anything | 01:35 |
| reisio | so... what would I have clarified | 01:35 |
| elky | What the user wanted the AV for, before implying that clamav would fulfil the typical newbie expectation. | 01:36 |
| reisio | he didn't say what he wanted it for | 01:36 |
| reisio | is that it, I was banned for not clarifying something the user never brought up? For not reading minds, basically? | 01:38 |
| elky | I need to get back to work now. Since you're clearly unwilling to learn from the experience of channel ops, this is not progressing. Therefore I will not unban you. | 01:38 |
| reisio | I still have no idea wtf I'm supposed to be learning | 01:38 |
| elky | reisio, that and your poor attitude the day before. | 01:38 |
| reisio | you tell me | 01:38 |
| reisio | what attitude?... | 01:39 |
| elky | reisio themacguy: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22mac%22%20%22grub2%22 | 01:39 |
| reisio | ...you gleaned an attitude from that msg? | 01:39 |
| reisio | to me it's two nicks and a URI | 01:39 |
| reisio | I still don't know what it is you think I've done wrong | 01:40 |
| reisio | here's a Linux virus that clamav detects: http://www.tux.org/pub/security/secnet/tools/abliss.tar.gz | 01:40 |
| elky | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/23/%23ubuntu.html#t09:21 | 01:41 |
| reisio | which is its job | 01:41 |
| reisio | so... you're saying I'm banned for the discussion with oCean? | 01:41 |
| reisio | I should be talking to oCean? | 01:41 |
| elky | read further down where you backchat an op who tells you to let people who know how to do things help, rather than be obnoxious with giving people a page of google results they likely don't understand | 01:41 |
| reisio | elky: likely? | 01:42 |
| reisio | does he say he doesn't understand? | 01:42 |
| reisio | or does he go off happy? | 01:42 |
| reisio | IIRC it's the latter | 01:42 |
| reisio | you're banning people for things they never did... | 01:42 |
| elky | As I said before, I need to go back to work and you're being unrepentant. I will not lift the ban. | 01:43 |
| elky | Bye. | 01:43 |
| reisio | I will not be repentant for helping out themacguy | 01:44 |
| reisio | the man typed out a smiley face | 01:44 |
| reisio | and oCean isn't the one who banned me anyways | 01:44 |
| reisio | anybody else want to tell me clamav isn't an antivirus? | 01:45 |
| reisio | there must be one of you in here that realizes it _is_ an antivirus | 01:46 |
| bazhang | thats not the point | 01:46 |
| reisio | what _is_ the point, then? | 01:46 |
| bazhang | he wanted something like MSE | 01:46 |
| Jordan_U | reisio: Nobody has said that Clamav isn't an antivirus. Putting words in others mouths will not help your situation. | 01:46 |
| reisio | clamav _is_ like MSE | 01:46 |
| bazhang | no its not | 01:47 |
| reisio | and he didn't specify what he wanted outside of 'an av' | 01:47 |
| reisio | yes, it really is | 01:47 |
| bazhang | oy vey | 01:47 |
| reisio | Jordan_U: well that's all _I_ ever said | 01:47 |
| reisio | and here I am banned | 01:47 |
| bazhang | better come back later | 01:47 |
| reisio | what good will that do? | 01:47 |
| reisio | you guys going to look up what an AV is between now and "later"? | 01:47 |
| bazhang | I'm not unbanning you either | 01:47 |
| reisio | really, you aren't? :p | 01:47 |
| bazhang | you just want to argue how your behavior is 100% a-ok, when in fact it's not | 01:48 |
| reisio | Jordan_U: man asked for an av, I told him one — you tell me, why'm I banned? | 01:48 |
| reisio | bazhang: actually I'd like to be unbanned | 01:48 |
| reisio | and you people don't seem to be able to do that without determining why I was banned in the first place | 01:48 |
| bazhang | reisio, no one's unbanning you. please exit the channel. | 01:48 |
| reisio | but you don't seem to be capable of that | 01:48 |
| Jordan_U | reisio: I'm personally more concerned with your demonstrably bad attitude than anything else. | 01:48 |
| reisio | bazhang: I didn't join this channel, baz | 01:49 |
| reisio | someone put me here | 01:49 |
| reisio | Jordan_U: what bad attitude? | 01:49 |
| bazhang | you can part. I suggest you do so now | 01:49 |
| reisio | I'd rather be unbanned | 01:49 |
| bazhang | not going to happen. | 01:49 |
| reisio | sure it will, it always does | 01:49 |
| reisio | Jordan_U: I guess it's a bad attitude if you don't want to be banned? | 01:50 |
| bazhang | it's more than likely that the ban will be lengthened than anything else | 01:50 |
| reisio | Jordan_U: or are you looking through your logs trying to find some evidence of your baseless claim now? | 01:50 |
| reisio | bazhang: for what? | 01:50 |
| bazhang | so better stop digging and part now | 01:51 |
| reisio | bazhang: for what? | 01:51 |
| Jordan_U | reisio: Due to your bad attitue which you have demonstrated here, just now. That's the last I'm going to say as this is pointless. | 01:51 |
| reisio | Jordan_U: so you have no basis for your claim, good to know | 01:51 |
| reisio | "oh he doesn't want to be banned for saying clamav is an av, that's a bad attitude!" | 01:52 |
| reisio | :p | 01:52 |
| reisio | bazhang: that's what I thought | 01:52 |
| bazhang | reisio, please exit the channel | 01:54 |
| reisio | I didn't _join_ the channel in the first place | 01:54 |
| reisio | I was summoned here | 01:54 |
| reisio | clean up your own messes | 01:54 |
| elky | Someone go update that from forward to proper ban. | 01:55 |
| elky | Aw crap, when did it turn 2pm? | 01:56 |
| knome | elky, three hours ago. | 01:56 |
| elky | Actually, in 3 minutes time. And i haven't had lunch yet. | 01:57 |
| Jordan_U | Ban changed. | 01:57 |
| elky | thanks | 01:57 |
| twb | I am banned in #ubuntu-server. I do not know why, I speculate this is for swearng twice in a month. I would like the ban lifted. | 02:30 |
| bazhang | twb, is the swearing going to cease? | 02:30 |
| twb | Yes. | 02:30 |
| twb | I only swear by accident in Ubuntu channels and AFAIK it is quiet infrequent. | 02:31 |
| twb | But IIRC you talked to me last Friday and you didn't have privs to lift the ban in any case | 02:31 |
| bazhang | check what you have typed before hitting enter | 02:31 |
| twb | If you want someone to vouch for me, you could ask Spamaps or perhaps cjwatson | 02:34 |
| bazhang | just dont swear would cure it. | 02:34 |
| bazhang | we can lift the ban, but if you do it again then it wont be so quick next time | 02:34 |
| twb | I give up. I'll leave #ubuntu-* forever and direct my questions and support efforts to #debian-offtopic instead. | 02:35 |
| IdleOne | that is fine | 02:35 |
| bazhang | ok | 02:35 |
| bazhang | <SrPx> Is there a replacement for Everything on Ubuntu? | 03:13 |
| bazhang | * [kantian] (~don@216.166.7.6): allen | 03:52 |
| elky | To #debian-offtopic? hahahaha The first part of the #debian-offtopic topic: " Please take support questions to #debian - NO, REALLY" | 07:16 |
| vibhav | Is macbuntu supported in #ubuntu | 07:22 |
| vibhav | ? | 07:23 |
| elky | If you don't know the answer, let others answer. Dr_Willis already did so. | 07:29 |
| elky | dr_willis answered, mind you, quite a long time before he came and asked that | 07:31 |
| elky | well, 2 minutes, but plenty enough time for him to see the conversation | 07:32 |
| Myrtti | my trollsenses tingle in #ubuntu | 07:33 |
| Myrtti | oh man | 07:43 |
| Myrtti | please tell me someone else is awake and watching this | 07:45 |
| Myrtti | @mark | 07:58 |
| ubottu | (mark [<channel>] <nick|hostmask> [<comment>]) -- Creates an entry in the Bantracker as if <nick|hostmask> was kicked from <channel> with the comment <comment>, if <comment> is given it will be uses as the comment on the Bantracker, <channel> is only needed when send in /msg | 07:58 |
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| Pici | ikonia: thanks ubottu | 12:25 |
| ikonia | I suspect his motives where not great | 12:26 |
| ikonia | Pici: he was trolling #kubuntu too, but not with anything "bad" just ranting about how crap it is | 12:26 |
| Pici | ikonia: yeah, I was just looking for scrollback as you did that | 12:26 |
| ikonia | I suspect he'll start in #debian shortly | 12:26 |
| ikonia | I'm leaving him on mute until he responds to my messages | 12:28 |
| ikonia | (or joins here to talk to someone) | 12:28 |
| Pici | sounds good | 12:28 |
| Pici | ikonia: fyi, punk45rock is on the same ip as that andchat person. | 12:33 |
| ikonia | nice spot | 12:33 |
| ikonia | he confirmed he was trying to be a problem in pm, hence changing it to a +b see the eir config for auto remove info | 12:33 |
| bazhang | windows cloud server console via ubuntu ? | 14:54 |
| ikonia | ? | 15:12 |
| bazhang | a question some time ago in #ubuntu | 15:12 |
| ikonia | I'm guessing an rdp connection would work | 15:12 |
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| === monstertrucks is now known as jtrucks | ||
| bazhang | <Hellz_Bellz> BUT... are you certain that that is not something i have already tried? | 15:51 |
| bazhang | what is the sound of one hand clapping | 15:52 |
| * oCean tries | 15:53 | |
| * oCean adds an other skill to his linkedin profile | 15:55 | |
| * h00k balances the lightswitch between on and off | 15:56 | |
| h00k | IdleOne: I think zy was saying rang0 has ikonia on ignore | 16:21 |
| IdleOne | I don't think so | 16:21 |
| h00k | IdleOne: but I could be wrong | 16:21 |
| h00k | It happened before. Just once, though. | 16:21 |
| IdleOne | hehe | 16:22 |
| h00k | also, 'rango' not rang0 | 16:22 |
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| === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno | ||
| Myrtti | !gr | 20:41 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές / #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes | 20:41 |
| * h00k blinks | 21:37 | |
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