[05:58] morning superfly and other early birds [06:00] pc couldnt boot in the cold [06:00] thats the modern way of explaining it [06:00] truth is finger couldnt reach the pc from my bed [06:01] Morning Kilos, glad to see you survived the night. [06:01] hahaha [06:02] hehe ty superfly everything is frozen here [06:02] and 14°c max today [06:03] Eina [06:03] all well with the fly's superfly ? [06:03] That's too cold. [06:03] Yup [06:04] you got some yucky weather and more coming [06:04] Just rainy [06:05] cape of storms [06:05] hi psydroid === SmilyBorg_w is now known as Smilyborg [06:07] afternoon Smilyborg [06:07] hehe [06:07] hehe. Morning [06:08] you wont survive here [06:08] oh? [06:08] 14°c max today [06:08] eek [06:08] Afternoon Smilyborg [06:08] hey superfly [06:08] hi Kilos Smilyborg and superfly [06:08] yo psydroid [06:09] hey psydroid [06:11] *yawn* [06:11] oi [06:12] it's too early on the day, we're barely awake [06:12] ^ [06:13] the fly has already got to the station and is yawning on the train [06:14] did that once, and woke up three stations past my get off point [06:16] Kilos: I get off in Cape Town, no way to miss my station [06:16] hahaha [06:16] oh not stop at robbin island [06:17] not/no [06:19] Kilos: the trains are not fitted for underwater use, I'm afraid [06:19] hehehe [06:22] talking of which, here's the station [06:22] go safe superfly [06:42] forgot no power today. didnt charge fone either. sigh [06:43] see you all late avy. be good. have a successful day === Smilyborg is now known as SmilyBorg [07:35] ullo [07:35] Symmetria: By the way, Charl on freenode told me "tell Symmetria http://i.imgur.com/QMw9m.gif" 2 days, 23 hours, 8 minutes and 11 seconds ago [07:36] mirror.ac.za ram will be going in during the course of the day [07:43] ok [07:43] so then it will be back up [07:44] its running at the moment and up, but util that ram goes in it probably wont be stable [07:44] ok [07:46] * Symmetria looks at this network he has to fix and ponders [07:46] its a flat /16 network, with 600 edge switches, countless pcs and we have to break it down and subnet it and introduce some structure to it [07:46] while the campus is running and live [07:47] this is going to be? fun? if the definition of fun is some masochistic version of suicide [07:49] hehe [07:49] what campus if i may ask? [07:54] no comment :) [07:59] haha ok [08:00] at least i know our campus runs a lot of /24 /23 and /22 subnets [08:01] but interestingly enough i saw a /16 on a telecommunications university in france's network [08:13] morning [09:18] howdy all [09:29] how do I get a command to run on a boot or reboot of ubuntu server? [09:30] the word rc.local comes to mind for some reason [09:31] mirror going down for the next hour or 2 for a ram upgrade [09:31] they just taking it down adding some more chips and bringing it back [09:37] plop [09:38] How up to date are you guys with hardware? [09:39] hi all [09:39] I have a Biostar TA770E motherboard (http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=418) and am not 100% sure if I can load DDR3 ram onto it... "Moreover, AM3 CPU supports both DDR2 /DDR3 memory module and accelerates data transfer rate by up to 5200MT/s via HyperTransport 3.0 technology." but under memory support in the last tab no DDR3 memory is named [09:39] lo sflr [09:40] hi sflr [09:40] Reenen: the board will support either DDR2 or DDR3, but they are physically incompatible [09:40] Kerbero[dsp], so i just add the command I want to run to that file save, reboot and that is that? [09:41] magespawn: something like that i think yes [09:41] just google to make sure [09:42] ty Kerbero[dsp] [09:43] tumbleweed: when you say physically incompatible, you mean that the pin configurations won't allow me to insert DDR3 memory into the board (as I know I have ddr2 at the moment) [09:44] or I can't use DDR2 and DDR3 at the same time? [09:44] Reenen: correct. the notch is in a different place [09:45] Reenen: you cant mix the 2 types [09:45] and you can't have a socket on a motherbaord that'll accept either type [09:45] yeah, that would be weird! [09:45] hi magespawn [09:47] can I run nvidia card on a AMD motherboard? [09:50] yes [09:57] some of the really old boards had slots for two types of ram, i never tried two types at the same time though [10:08] i'm currently on a mobo like that [10:08] you have to choose in the bios which slots to use [10:09] can't be both at the same time [10:10] never had a look, the boards are that old, i did not have a power supply for them. [11:07] hi all :) [11:14] * superfly has internet at work again... at last [11:17] ouch [11:25] superfly: :D [11:39] aalston@mirror:~$ free [11:39] total used free shared buffers cached [11:39] Mem: 132288096 37805640 94482456 0 29140 33639632 [11:39] -/+ buffers/cache: 4136868 128151228 [11:39] Swap: 19530748 0 19530748 [11:39] :P [11:42] heh that should solve some issues [11:55] :p === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [12:48] if I plug a flash drive with m$ virus on it into my ubuntu pc, it sees those as *.exe files, can I just copy those files off? [12:48] magespawn: presuming those are the actual virii, yes [12:49] superfly the files are named after other files and folders on the flash drive with a autorun file that points to them. [12:50] and one that is cleverly named recycler [13:15] magespawn: heh. [13:17] * Kilos waves \0/ [13:17] yo magespawn [13:17] hi Ghanatraveller [13:17] hi [13:18] you got a funny name --default123 [13:18] hehe [13:18] hi Kilos [13:18] gc wb [13:18] Thanks Kilos It was a bit of a struggle getting here. [13:18] haha [13:18] hi fly power returned [13:18] yay [13:19] yo tonberryE352 [13:20] hello [13:23] Kilos: great stuff oom [13:23] dankie my vriend [13:24] yo zeref [13:25] Ghanatraveller, are you new here? [13:25] hm yes [13:25] where are you at the moment? [13:26] and welcome to ubuntu-za [13:26] dag inetpro voor jy begin werk [13:40] yo Reenen [13:40] how do I execute a command, and send the output to another command? [13:40] hi Kilos [13:40] I am trying < [13:40] but not quite working [13:41] explain what you want to do nicely and someone will help you [13:41] just be patient [13:41] command1 | command2 [13:42] ok... (windows cmd, but similar thing)... start < type file.txt [13:42] windows can pipe over stdio? [13:43] well, that doesn't work [13:44] ok what exactly are you trying to do? [13:45] lol I have a huge folder full of garfield comics... each named ga19780901 (etc) so I want to save "where I am" to a text file called readspot.txt... so I do copy con readspot.txt ga19780913.gif ^z [13:46] then I want to start at the spot I left off by typing start < type readspot.txt [13:46] but this is not working [13:46] in linux? [13:46] well, I have mingw [13:46] start < readspot.txt [13:46] so most bash commands available [13:47] well, that starts a texteditor with readspot.txt [13:47] Kilos: !! :p [13:47] type is the windows cat? [13:47] actually start <&1 readspot.txt does that... start < readspot.txt just starts another shell [13:48] hi there smile [13:48] well I have cat as well [13:48] what does start do? [13:48] Kilos: what did you do today? I've read your blog for 100% :) [13:48] lol i had no power all day and now its time to cook supper [13:48] hehe [13:48] Kilos: well that's a shame [13:49] i would go to their office and take a generator with you :D [13:49] start trys to start a file with whatever association it has [13:49] oh [13:49] actually it might be better smile they have connected to an upgraded new power line [13:49] so a .gif file gets opened by the image viewer, and html by the default browser etc. [13:50] Kilos: well do they have one? :) [13:50] try [13:51] start $(type readspot.txt) [13:51] one what smile ? [13:51] well, a good power line for you :) [13:51] @ Kilos [13:52] can't find $(type [13:52] is that a windows cmd promp or some unix like terminal? [13:53] just windows command prompt... [13:53] ok, don't worry, just trying to be cute [13:53] :D [13:54] my cmd fu is a bit lacking [13:54] hiya maiatoday you well girl? [13:55] whats news with results? [13:55] got the results, they like the practical but I have to do "elaborations" on the written part. No rewrite but it all has to be done by 14 Aug. The difficult part is figuring out what they want me to change [13:56] eish maiatoday sterkte [13:56] ty [14:08] hey Kilos [14:47] hi psydroid [14:49] hi Kilos [15:13] bye :) [15:30] Oh yey. Train fun. [15:30] lol what now [15:31] or isnt it funny? [15:33] i am on my way home later all [15:35] Kilos: trains are delayed, not running, and standing still in the middle of nowhere [15:35] aw sorry to hear that superfly [15:47] superfly, are you on your way yet? [15:48] No, been sitting here for half an hour [15:48] are there buses that run the same route [15:48] i know taxis are expensive [15:49] Kilos: we're in the middle of nowhere, not a station or road in sight [15:49] eish [15:51] superfly, is the place at least crowded? not you alone? [15:52] heeeehhh; theblaze asked me if i know what linux is o0o0? [15:52] haha [15:53] hes a funny guy [15:53] that was at 06:13 [15:57] then you must be a diplomat zeref [15:57] Kilos: I am with friends [15:57] oh thats ok then superfly [15:58] i worry about my friends [16:03] Kilos: I'll be fine :-) [16:41] wb magespawn [16:41] Hey kilos [16:42] Looks like gc is a casualty of the power failure. [16:43] yeah [16:43] superfly who is in charge of the ubuntu-za forums? [16:44] I need to set her up with a ups and to restart after a power failure [16:44] yeah that could help [16:44] how long will the ups maintain [16:45] Normally a small one will do about 10 to 15 minutes for a normal desktop. [16:46] But a head less ubuntu server should use a lot less power than a m$ desktop [16:46] can they be coupled to a car battery to make it live longer magespawn [16:47] Yes think so. [16:47] ah [16:48] Would be better to use a deep cycle battery. Car size voltage, but mattains a charge for a lot longer. [16:48] ok [16:49] or park your car outside the window and run jumper cables to the battery [16:49] Petrol much. [16:49] you should watch out [16:49] yeah its a prob nowadays hey [16:50] because a lot of ups's can overheat if they run too long [16:50] ah [16:50] even though the battery can last longer [16:50] APC's are ok in general though [16:50] as far as i heard [16:51] Just need good ventilation etc. [16:51] ah ty for that info Kerbero [16:51] more like forced cooling with extra computer fans @ magespawn [16:52] Thats an idea. [16:53] http://www.takealot.com/electronics/pc-components-1111/apc-back-ups-offline-ups-650va,2123519 [16:53] or buy that one [16:53] I was looking at the Tedelex intellipower series. [16:54] when one buy a lcd, you buy a samsung [16:54] cpu, intel [16:54] ups, apc [16:55] ^ just examples [16:55] I also do some business with Eaton. [16:55] Quite happy with my Phillips screens. [16:56] i will agree that philips make nice screens [16:56] but i will buy samsung if i have a choice [16:56] at this stage anyway [16:56] with the news about oled's it might change to sony in the future [16:56] www.eaton.com/ [16:58] I have got some small ups without batteries, so I will try those first anyway. [16:59] Modify them to work with the deep cycle batteries, maybe a solar charger if i can. [17:00] I like the idea of hot swappable batteries. === AndChat|68096 is now known as magespawn [17:09] hallo Kerbero:) [17:10] dag smile [17:10] http://honestmusings.wordpress.com/2012/06/09/java-vs-python-for-a-start-up-help-us-decide/ [17:10] One for the programmers ^^ [17:11] Kerbero: how are you? :D [17:11] magespawn: python! :D [17:12] That is the authors opnion too I think, me I do not know enough. [17:19] superfly, train come yet? [17:22] hi all [17:22] hi Mezenir [17:23] can anyone think of a reason many devices would suddenly start suffering from fsck errors on startup ? [17:24] many devices? [17:24] yeah like a bunch of computers [17:24] randomly [17:25] i cant imagine linux would do anything to cause that [17:25] everytime they startup Mezenir [17:25] power dip [17:25] no after i do a manual fsck repair [17:25] they seem fine [17:25] bugs from the internet [17:25] hackers or something [17:26] or the hardware supplier is giving us poor stock [17:26] drives? [17:27] yeah [17:27] since its a file system error [17:27] i guess its probably related [17:27] to the harddrive [17:27] system log shows nothing unusual though [17:28] once you done fsck are they fine after that [17:28] and for how long [17:28] ive only actually had one in my posession [17:28] just mentioned an error manual fsck required [17:28] so i ran fsck -y on it [17:28] to say yes to all prompts [17:29] and after that it booted [17:29] maybe from power dips or cuts [17:29] yeah [17:30] i used to get probs when i used msn on pidgin but not anymore [17:30] what kind of probs ? [17:30] do you know the force fsck command [17:30] yeah fsck -f -y [17:31] pc wanted to run filesystem checks [17:31] but thats only in case it doesnt think the filesystem has problems [17:31] for ext3 file systems [17:31] the default for most systems is to run fsck -p [17:32] oh i have done this when things werent happy [17:32] sudo touch /forcefsck [17:32] which fixes "safe" errors automatically [17:32] then it does fsck on next boot [17:32] yeah [17:32] what do the -f -y do? [17:32] strange that using msn would trigger that thou [17:32] -f = force [17:32] its microsoft [17:32] -y = yes to all prompts [17:32] ah [17:33] ty [17:33] it only applies to ext2/3/4 filesystems thou [17:33] each filesystem checker has different options [17:33] i have even had pidgin hang and not want to close [17:33] also pc hang [17:34] but since no more msn no more probs [17:34] interesting [17:34] i wanted to use pidgin for gtalk [17:34] thats fine [17:34] but i got a warning that the certificate [17:34] could not be verified [17:34] talk.google.com or something [17:34] i use gtalk aim and mxit and twitter on pidgin [17:34] so i decided not to [17:35] on pidgin gtalk is xmpp [17:35] works fine [17:35] only msn gave probs [17:35] i use pidgin all the time [17:36] yeah [17:36] it chats fine [17:36] just didnt like the certificate warning [17:36] maybe going via the browser is safer then [17:37] to gtalk? [17:37] yeah [17:37] maybe its been fixed [17:37] i havent tried in a while [17:37] mine has been fine with xmpp for years [17:38] wb psydroid [17:38] ty Kilos [17:39] hi Mezenir [17:39] hi psydroid [17:40] inetpro, ping [17:41] Kilos: . [17:41] yoohoo hoe gaan dit [17:41] nog n duitsertjie hier [17:41] Ghanatraveller, meet inetpro [17:44] oh my hes gone fishing or something [17:47] hmm... [17:47] evening all [17:47] lekker koud ne boetie [17:47] hiya charl [17:47] hi charl [17:48] lol the pro is acting clever again [17:49] old saying, keep your mouth shut and peeps think you are stupid [17:49] open it and they know [17:50] lol [17:50] hi Kilos [17:50] hi Mezenir [17:50] Kilos: eh [17:51] * inetpro needs a weekend to rest from the weekend [17:51] lol [17:51] ha ha ha [17:51] charl: good evening [17:51] hi inetpro [17:53] Maaz, seen steven [17:53] Kilos: I don't know who steven is [17:53] haha [17:54] Maaz, seen sflr [17:54] Kilos: sflr was last seen 8 hours, 8 minutes and 25 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-06-25 02:45:42 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-06-25 04:04:52 PDT [18:01] You know the first 5 days after the weekend are the hardest. [18:01] lol [18:10] nice [18:14] This might be a bit of a loaded question but here goes. [18:15] I have got either a full virus/malware from a flash drive somebody brought into my shop, or part of it. [18:15] How do I take it apart so I can look at the language. [18:16] whew [18:16] you wanna see and understand how it was written magespawn ? [18:16] And see what ir was trying to do. [18:16] It [18:17] what format is it... is it a binary? [18:17] what have you tried so far to open it [18:17] or is it some macro virus [18:18] if it's a binary you could start with a hex editor [18:18] Not really sure theav scanner said was a trojan but there are few .exe files and such. [18:18] although unless you know what you're looking for ... [18:19] bah [18:19] This one took the name of every folder on the flash drive and put .exe behind it. [18:19] flash drives are infection machines [18:19] Yup [18:19] whew [18:21] inf file at root of the flash pointed to .exe files. [18:22] Just thought it would be interesting to see what itmwas supposed to do. [18:23] whew, you playing with fire [18:23] yeah classic [18:23] well, if you're on linux you should be safe from a windows virus [18:24] Yup my shop is, thats one of the reasons I choose it. [18:24] unless it goes deep and affects boot sector [18:24] yeah but then it will still need to execute first [18:24] and that's the thing - an .exe compiled for windows won't normally execute on linux [18:25] all of a sudden it finds itself on a posix system [18:25] would actually be interesting to see how trojans are written [18:25] Kilos: ek's tuis nou oom [18:25] yeah would actually [18:25] The other is I can just redo the shop pc's without the problems of windows activation. [18:25]