| micahg | mr_pouit: ok, sounds good | 03:31 |
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| hobgoblin | astraljava: hope this is what you were expecting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Short/HardwareProfile | 06:35 |
| hobgoblin | crap :( | 06:41 |
| hobgoblin | astraljava: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/HardwareProfile | 06:46 |
| astraljava | hobgoblin: Sweet, looks alright to me. Thanks! | 06:53 |
| hobgoblin | just got to get them to delete the wrong one :( | 06:53 |
| hobgoblin | but cool - glad to help :) | 06:54 |
| ochosi | hi everyone | 09:22 |
| ochosi | what did i miss over the weekend? :) | 09:22 |
| hobgoblin | hi ochosi | 09:30 |
| ochosi | hi hobgoblin | 09:32 |
| knome | so, | 09:55 |
| knome | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ase3mbY6LZYodEtyOC03U0MxNnFYbUpKdlFkU3FHRlE | 09:55 |
| knome | i gathered a spreadsheet of all the submissions to the ML about gmb so far | 09:55 |
| knome | (don't worry, it's not giving out any personal info the people haven't sent to the ml theirself!) | 09:56 |
| ochosi | hey knome | 09:56 |
| hobgoblin | :) | 09:56 |
| knome | ochosi, so can you confirm you can play streams and podcasts with gmb? | 09:56 |
| ochosi | knome: i can confirm that gmb doesn't have that feature (yet) :) | 09:57 |
| knome | oh. | 09:57 |
| knome | why did i think it had. | 09:57 |
| ochosi | btw, announcement: i'll be away for all of august and probably ~half of july | 09:58 |
| knome | ffft | 09:58 |
| ochosi | "sometimes loses library on exit" > crash. we should ask for more info (although there have been many bugfixes between 12.04 version and git now) | 09:59 |
| hobgoblin | knome: most of those feedbacks are basically - how do you use it ... | 09:59 |
| knome | hobgoblin, not really. | 09:59 |
| ochosi | hobgoblin: excuse me, but "most"? | 09:59 |
| knome | hobgoblin, a few | 09:59 |
| hobgoblin | well the ones about having issues I meant :) | 10:00 |
| hobgoblin | obviosuly the 'it's great' ones aren't :) | 10:00 |
| knome | yes... but there are only a few of them too. | 10:00 |
| ochosi | not even then it's most, half of them are about missing features (ipod,ubuntu-one,media-keys) | 10:00 |
| hobgoblin | knome yep | 10:01 |
| knome | and tbh, those who i've marked "no experience" are useless | 10:01 |
| ochosi | anyway, i see a lot of trouble with gtk3.6 on the horizon, that's why i wanted to announce i'll be away | 10:01 |
| knome | and you can't really count them | 10:01 |
| knome | because how do you know if it would have been okay for them if they just uninstall it? | 10:01 |
| hobgoblin | I agree | 10:01 |
| ochosi | we might have to push greybird-updates late in september as sru's or something | 10:01 |
| knome | (i haven't marked those who said they tried it) | 10:02 |
| knome | just the ones purging right away | 10:02 |
| ochosi | also those that say they don't need a player with library-support are kinda useless | 10:02 |
| hobgoblin | lol | 10:02 |
| ochosi | because we said we want that (otherwise you can keep using parole) | 10:02 |
| knome | is that's one of our requirements, yes | 10:02 |
| knome | *if | 10:03 |
| ochosi | i can send that link to upstream | 10:03 |
| ochosi | upstream-gmb i mean | 10:03 |
| knome | maybe later | 10:03 |
| knome | i think we still have feedback coming | 10:03 |
| ochosi | ok | 10:03 |
| knome | and this is just condensed stuff anyway | 10:04 |
| ochosi | yeah, but the condensed stuff is good | 10:04 |
| knome | heh, yeah | 10:04 |
| knome | any ideas how to improve that spreadsheet? | 10:04 |
| knome | should we try to do some formatting for those who aren't useful or so? | 10:05 |
| ochosi | i think sorting them somehow would make sense | 10:05 |
| knome | well, they're sorted chronologically now | 10:05 |
| ochosi | sort them by "do you use gmb?" | 10:05 |
| knome | which made most sense when creating the list ;) | 10:06 |
| ochosi | and then put those that have "no xp with gmb" down at the bottom | 10:06 |
| knome | and still does, if we maintain that | 10:06 |
| ochosi | to some extent, but in the final evaluation, the time is a useless parameter imo | 10:06 |
| knome | sure :P | 10:06 |
| ochosi | s/time/time of submission/ | 10:06 |
| hobgoblin | I'd say there were 3 categories - never used it/tried it/used it | 10:07 |
| hobgoblin | any more sorting out will not be of much use I'd have thought - too many other variables | 10:07 |
| ochosi | some color-coding might help as well | 10:07 |
| knome | see sheet2 | 10:09 |
| hobgoblin | that makes more sense | 10:10 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, much better | 10:21 |
| ochosi | knome: if you share it with me, i can create another sheet for "missing features" | 10:23 |
| knome | ochosi, sure | 10:23 |
| knome | ochosi, sent to simon@sp | 10:24 |
| ochosi | ty | 10:25 |
| ochosi | seems like i still can't edit | 10:26 |
| ochosi | oh wait, i guess i'm signed in with my other google-account | 10:27 |
| ochosi | meh, mind to share it with s.s@gmail.com? | 10:27 |
| knome | just tell me what that was again and i can add that too :P | 10:27 |
| knome | ok | 10:27 |
| knome | beiss? | 10:27 |
| ochosi | otherwise i have to logout/login all the time | 10:27 |
| ochosi | yup | 10:27 |
| knome | added and rm'd @sp | 10:27 |
| knome | not that it matters... | 10:28 |
| ochosi | mhm | 10:28 |
| ochosi | knome: .wav support? afaik gmb supports .wav fine (and what player wouldn't) | 11:11 |
| knome | i thought the same. but i'm not the one sending that message... | 11:11 |
| ochosi | yes i know, i just wanted to know whether there was more info in the email that would make it clearer | 11:11 |
| knome | ochosi, look for the poster name, then find that from the -users archive | 11:12 |
| knome | ochosi, that's why i posted the names | 11:12 |
| ochosi | ok, compiled a shortlist of features | 11:14 |
| ochosi | unfortunately many of them are known (at least by me) | 11:14 |
| knome | mmh. | 11:14 |
| ochosi | and i guess they won't get the quick and simple implementation | 11:14 |
| knome | otoh, good that there isn't lots of bugs we don't know about | 11:14 |
| ochosi | yup | 11:14 |
| ochosi | definitely | 11:15 |
| ochosi | it's actually comforting to see that the quest for feedback didn't just return a shirtstorm :) | 11:15 |
| knome | ;) | 11:15 |
| ochosi | (usually only annoyed users care enough to send something) | 11:15 |
| knome | agreed | 11:15 |
| knome | though there was some really useless posts | 11:15 |
| knome | "oh well i use vlc IT'S THE BESSSTTT" | 11:15 |
| ochosi | ubuntu-one support won't come upstream, we'd have to do that ourselves | 11:16 |
| knome | ... | 11:16 |
| ochosi | knome: greybird-tabs-update: http://imagebin.org/217745 | 11:57 |
| ochosi | i also like these tab colors btw, what do you think? http://dribbble.com/shots/615066-Tabs | 11:58 |
| knome | hmmh. | 12:00 |
| knome | make the inactive tabs a bit lighter | 12:01 |
| ochosi | you mean the bg? | 12:01 |
| knome | i like the latter colors, but you are not quite there with the "new" variant | 12:01 |
| knome | yes | 12:01 |
| ochosi | i know i'm not, that was just something i stumbled upon after updating the tab-style | 12:01 |
| ochosi | but yeah, i'll make them a bit lighter | 12:01 |
| knome | :) | 12:02 |
| ochosi | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-06252012-020224pm.php | 12:02 |
| ochosi | our general bg color is a bit darker, so all the tab-bg is also a bit darker | 12:03 |
| ochosi | or at least if we want tab-content to be brighter, i'd have to tweak all possible sub-items of tabs | 12:04 |
| ochosi | anyway, off for lunch | 12:05 |
| knome | bon appetit | 12:07 |
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| pjotr | Hello, I have a problem with spontaneous window movement in Xubuntu 12.04. Probably a bug. | 13:09 |
| pjotr | Steps to reproduce: | 13:10 |
| pjotr | - Start Mahjongg | 13:10 |
| pjotr | - make the window somewhat bigger (don't maximize it) | 13:10 |
| pjotr | - click anywhere on the grey task bar of Mahjongg | 13:10 |
| pjotr | - click on the dark blue background in Mahjongg | 13:10 |
| pjotr | In more than 25 % of the cases, this causes spontaneous weird window movements: the Mahjongg window almost entirely disappears in the lower right corner of my display, or is being dragged by mouse movements. | 13:10 |
| pjotr | From other people I've heard similar reports about Gedit and Disk Utility, so it's not Mahjongg-related. The strange thing is: no similar problems in applications like Firefox and LibreOffice. | 13:10 |
| pjotr | I have two questions:1. Can I work around this bug? 2. Against which package should I file this bug on Launchpad? | 13:10 |
| ochosi | pjotr: there is already a bugreport | 13:31 |
| ochosi | and i'm aware of it, it's gtk3 specific | 13:31 |
| pjotr | ochosi: Thanks. Can I work around it somehow (hacking some settings file)? | 13:32 |
| bluesabre_ | ochosi: That particular bug is particularly annoying with multiple monitors (at least with NVIDIA drivers). | 15:14 |
| ochosi | bluesabre_: yeah, i tried deactivating window-move on menubar-grab in gtk3, i don't think it really fixed the issue | 15:23 |
| ochosi | astraljava: ping | 15:29 |
| ochosi | madnick: ping | 15:29 |
| madnick | ochosi: pong | 16:58 |
| ochosi | madnick: hey! just wanted to ask you how it's going and whether friday is still a realistic goal | 17:09 |
| bluesabre_ | Not sure if the default audio player is still on the table, but the latest audacious alpha is quite nice and simplistic. http://imagebin.org/217771 | 17:09 |
| bluesabre_ | (and the Sound Menu artwork actually works | 17:10 |
| bluesabre_ | ) | 17:10 |
| madnick | ochosi: i'd say its realistic, if i run into some major problem ill come back to you :P | 17:10 |
| ochosi | madnick: ok, good. just wanted to check in cause i'm back :) | 17:11 |
| ochosi | bluesabre_: haven't really tried audacious in a while, does it have library management? | 17:11 |
| bluesabre_ | Sure does. | 17:11 |
| hobgoblin | does it? | 17:12 |
| ochosi | just asking cause it looks very playlist-based to me on that screenshot | 17:12 |
| bluesabre_ | Well, its basic | 17:12 |
| bluesabre_ | Not as featured as gmb | 17:13 |
| hobgoblin | there is a library plugin - but I've got a bug on that - crashes with my library | 17:13 |
| ochosi | mhm | 17:13 |
| Sysi | as default app, I'd consider simplicity over features, music player vs. music library manager | 17:13 |
| bluesabre_ | It worked for me, just clicking on that search button lets you set your library | 17:13 |
| ochosi | Sysi: the basic argument "pro library" was that if we just want a simplistic player we already have parole for that | 17:14 |
| bluesabre_ | http://imagebin.org/217772 (at bottom of side panel) | 17:14 |
| ochosi | btw, the arrangement of buttons in the toolbar is somewhat weird | 17:15 |
| ochosi | play,stop,prev,next ?? | 17:15 |
| bluesabre_ | I agree. I think I might offer some suggestions since its still in alpha | 17:16 |
| ochosi | are you in touch with the devs? | 17:16 |
| bluesabre_ | Nope, not yet | 17:17 |
| bluesabre_ | :D | 17:17 |
| bluesabre_ | It has a PPA, so I thought I'd play with it | 17:17 |
| ochosi | ok, first check how open they are :) | 17:17 |
| Sysi | ochosi: having neither playlist or any kind of library is more lacky than simple | 17:17 |
| ochosi | Sysi: parole has playlist-support | 17:17 |
| bluesabre_ | Everyone's not as open as the xubuntu-devel folks? :O | 17:17 |
| ochosi | (basic one at least) | 17:17 |
| hobgoblin | bluesabre_: how big a music library is it searching? just for my sanity | 17:17 |
| Sysi | ochosi: queue-like or library-like | 17:18 |
| bluesabre_ | 3 GB. Somebody with a more impressive library might want to look into it | 17:18 |
| hobgoblin | I did ... :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious/+bug/932574 | 17:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 932574 in audacious (Ubuntu) "audacious crashed with SIGSEGV in mpg123_info() Search Plugin fails" [Medium,Confirmed] | 17:18 |
| bluesabre_ | lol | 17:19 |
| ochosi | Sysi: well you can drag stuff into the sidebar and it'll play it in that order (parole) | 17:19 |
| Sysi | ochosi: but it's not saved when you close the app? | 17:19 |
| hobgoblin | ochosi: I use parole if I'm after something quickly | 17:19 |
| ochosi | Sysi: it's a bit like winamp, it just doesn't remember your last playlist/state. you can open/save playlists in m3u format | 17:20 |
| Sysi | well, audacious is exatly like winamp :P | 17:21 |
| Sysi | I kinda like idea of unified media player now that I use vlc for music too, I wonder if there would be suitable frontend for mplayer, if we can include that to installation cd | 17:22 |
| ochosi | Sysi: you can use mplayer as backend for gmusicbrowser ;) | 17:23 |
| ochosi | (instead of gstreamer, which is currently the default because parole uses it as well) | 17:24 |
| Sysi | (no, I don't like parole, bad support for subtitles) | 17:24 |
| hobgoblin | bluesabre_: and it crashed again :) | 17:25 |
| bluesabre_ | Well, I guess that's out of the question for now then :) | 17:25 |
| Sysi | gmb netbook could be really simple if shuffle was disabled by default, though so could shimmer desktop | 17:25 |
| Sysi | how can disabling shuffle been made so difficult.. or I'm just really dumb when I failed to do it | 17:26 |
| ochosi | Sysi: the shuffle-issue really strikes me, i'm a bit surprised by that. but i think we can easily change that with a new default setting | 17:26 |
| ochosi | s/i think/i hope/ :) | 17:27 |
| Sysi | I'll install GMB and try again | 17:27 |
| ochosi | remove your .config/gmusicbrowser folder before you reinstall | 17:28 |
| ochosi | or purge it | 17:28 |
| ochosi | just to be sure you start with new settings | 17:28 |
| ochosi | would be good to know what the shuffle-problem is exactly | 17:28 |
| Sysi | yeah, did that | 17:28 |
| Sysi | sauna break, real testing after that -> | 17:32 |
| Sysi | first problem was that I couldn't see any music after adding it to library, I had to change to Simple list view and select "All genres" to see my library in songtree view too | 17:34 |
| pleia2 | yay, fix to bug 1016925 seems to have cured the alt installer :) | 17:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1016925 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "12.10 Alternate installer fails with libavformat53 unmet dependencies" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016925 | 17:46 |
| pleia2 | no dailys link in ISO tracker today, how does this all work with alpha2 coming up? | 17:46 |
| ochosi | hey pleia2 | 17:47 |
| pleia2 | g'day ochosi | 17:47 |
| pleia2 | should I be submitting look-and-feel bugs, or do we just wait until gtk3 stuff settles? | 17:47 |
| ochosi | i'd say rather submit it | 17:48 |
| ochosi | then at least i've seen it all | 17:48 |
| pleia2 | ok :) | 17:48 |
| ochosi | but it's not improbable that i won't work on them until some things in unico/gtk3 have been fixed | 17:49 |
| hobgoblin | when alpha2 is there - what do we test it against - the short testcase - long one when it appears? | 17:50 |
| GridCube | any test is good, the long test is better | 17:59 |
| Sysi | ochosi: do you want long explanation about how shuffle can be confusing for new user without really giving any advantage as default setting? | 17:59 |
| hobgoblin | GridCube: cheers | 18:00 |
| ochosi | Sysi: no, just tell me what "shuffle" exactly means here | 18:00 |
| Sysi | ochosi: songs are not played in order they are in list, they do that for me when using "Artist,Album,Title,Track" | 18:01 |
| ochosi | Sysi: in what order are they played? | 18:02 |
| Sysi | random, as far as I acn tell | 18:02 |
| ochosi | the problem is: the user can change the sort-order anytime, but the play-order isn't synced with the sort-order | 18:03 |
| ochosi | which can be really practical | 18:03 |
| ochosi | so you can re-order your library visually but not change the way it's playing | 18:03 |
| ochosi | obviously that can be confusing | 18:03 |
| Sysi | I hardly get idea of that | 18:04 |
| Sysi | most if any players don't have those separately at all | 18:05 |
| ochosi | i know | 18:05 |
| Sysi | but well, with changing settings the way I did you can use GMB even if you don't know that.. I guess | 18:06 |
| ochosi | unless the user clicks a column-header | 18:07 |
| ochosi | but i totally agree with you, i think we should set that sort-order by default | 18:07 |
| ochosi | just have to figure out how :) | 18:07 |
| ochosi | the most robust one i know about is actually: folder,album,disc,track,filename | 18:08 |
| ochosi | that also works (a bit) for stuff with broken/missing tags | 18:08 |
| Sysi | I'd like to try what happens if I click column header but I'm afraid I can't undo that | 18:09 |
| Sysi | actually nothing broke, it just fails(shuffles?) if tag's missing | 18:11 |
| ochosi | thing is: | 18:13 |
| ochosi | there are a few levels of sorting: there is "grouping" (by default we set it to album) | 18:14 |
| ochosi | that could theoretically break if you sort by "song-title" (in songtree-view) | 18:14 |
| ochosi | in songlist view, nothing will break | 18:14 |
| ochosi | and by break i mean: you have to re-set the sort-order again by right-clicking the column header and setting it to whatever you had before | 18:14 |
| Sysi | and that depends about play order settings? advanced features always bring advanced usability.. | 18:16 |
| Sysi | how are you supposed to control songtree view, since it's apparently needed to even see your library in default setup? is using search in simple list the only option? | 18:16 |
| Sysi | I generally find listview nicer/simpler, just as an opinion | 18:17 |
| ochosi | no wait, not sure what you mean with play order settings there | 18:17 |
| ochosi | i'll quickly illustrate.. | 18:18 |
| Sysi | rightmost button under album cover | 18:18 |
| ochosi | both menus shown at the same time (two separate screenshots merged): http://imagebin.org/217779 | 18:21 |
| ochosi | now the settings are in sync | 18:21 |
| ochosi | so it'll play what you see | 18:21 |
| Sysi | I think I understand.. | 18:24 |
| ochosi | now, this is what is complex for most users at first: http://imagebin.org/217780 | 18:25 |
| ochosi | after clicking the "title" column-header, everything is seemingly shuffled... | 18:25 |
| ochosi | (when in fact it isn't, and the player still plays everything in the "normal" order) | 18:25 |
| Sysi | well, it pretty much just works if you don't touch anything, which is my ubuntu-philosophy | 18:26 |
| ochosi | hehe | 18:26 |
| ochosi | that's not such a bad verdict imo | 18:26 |
| Sysi | we just need good default sorting order | 18:26 |
| ochosi | agreed | 18:26 |
| ochosi | we can simply add a default sort-order and create a matching default play-order | 18:26 |
| ochosi | so that at least ootb, it will be in sync | 18:27 |
| Sysi | yeah | 18:27 |
| ochosi | Sysi: would you be willing to test it? | 18:30 |
| ochosi | (would involve re-purging gmb and installing from ppa) | 18:30 |
| Sysi | doesn't sound too bad, I have a free week | 18:31 |
| hobgoblin | I'll play around with it again as well | 18:31 |
| * hobgoblin has been following the conversation off and on here | 18:31 | |
| ochosi | Sysi, hobgoblin: ok, thanks, i'll let you know when the ppa is ready | 18:32 |
| hobgoblin | ok | 18:32 |
| Sysi | Artist,Album,Title,Track seems to work when sort-order is "click Album column header" too | 18:34 |
| ochosi | Sysi: what do you mean exactly? | 18:35 |
| Sysi | playing order is seemingly rational | 18:35 |
| ochosi | mind to test with "path album disc track file" ? | 18:36 |
| Sysi | not so good with random files with same artist | 18:37 |
| ochosi | what about "path artist album disc track file" ? | 18:37 |
| Sysi | mhm, it just won't work completely properly unless they're same, at least for first sorting items | 18:41 |
| ochosi | humm, not sure i get it 100%, mind to show me screenshots of your results? | 18:42 |
| Sysi | if at least first sorting property isn't same, visible sort-order and play-order donät match (like you said already) | 18:44 |
| ochosi | mhm | 18:55 |
| Sysi | what's difference of Disk and Album in sortin options? | 18:56 |
| ochosi | the disc is a different tag | 18:56 |
| ochosi | an album can e.g. have 2 discs | 18:56 |
| ochosi | (or even more) | 18:56 |
| ochosi | currently we're displaying that like this: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-06252012-085711pm.php | 18:57 |
| ochosi | (assuming the tags are set correctly) | 18:57 |
| Sysi | I don't think I have anything tagged like that, though not sure | 18:58 |
| ochosi | if you have an album with more than one disc/cd, you can quickly tag it and see :) | 18:59 |
| ochosi | that's where the treeview is really handy | 18:59 |
| Sysi | I'm trying to find nice playing+sorting order | 19:00 |
| ochosi | i have the patch ready for setting a different play-order by default | 19:06 |
| ochosi | i'll also set gmb to remember the last-playing song by default | 19:18 |
| ochosi | so you go back to where you left off when you restart it | 19:18 |
| Sysi | that's nice | 19:20 |
| ochosi | there is even more stuff we can't potentially switch on by default | 19:21 |
| ochosi | some people requested "scan/check library" by default on every startup | 19:22 |
| ochosi | not sure that's so good though | 19:22 |
| ochosi | it slows down startup... | 19:22 |
| Sysi | it's easy to enable if you need it | 19:23 |
| ochosi | yup, i'd say so too | 19:24 |
| Sysi | you need to add songs to library manually anyway | 19:26 |
| ochosi | yes, although i also fixed something there recently | 19:28 |
| ochosi | before it was not added to the watched-folders list, only to the library | 19:28 |
| ochosi | (if you used our default layout and settings > library > add music) | 19:28 |
| Sysi | I think I hit that issue when I started | 19:29 |
| ochosi | yes, it should be fixed in 12.10 | 19:29 |
| ochosi | (and in the ppa) | 19:29 |
| Sysi | what would you think about using listview as default? | 19:29 |
| ochosi | i wouldn't mind i think | 19:30 |
| ochosi | i mean it also seems more fail-proof | 19:30 |
| ochosi | because there is no group-order that would break when your music isn't tagged correctly | 19:30 |
| Sysi | yeah, I just couldn't get one song to play when it should, so I just dragged it to where it should be :) | 19:32 |
| Sysi | you should put some description about gmb:s working mechanismon faq or somewhere, it would help understaning it a lot | 19:33 |
| ochosi | yes, i agree | 19:33 |
| ochosi | would you want to help with that? | 19:33 |
| Sysi | I could try to come up with something, though it's kinds of absurd consept to explain | 19:34 |
| ochosi | hehe | 19:35 |
| ochosi | well, don't start with that | 19:35 |
| ochosi | it shouldn't revolve around this particular issue | 19:35 |
| ochosi | many people actually seem to do fine with gmb, at least we're not getting much bad feedback from those who use it | 19:35 |
| Sysi | I'll call it "unique usage features" | 19:35 |
| ochosi | just the normal step-by-step how to get your music in the player, play it etc | 19:36 |
| Sysi | right | 19:37 |
| Sysi | at least I'm now completely sold for GMB :P | 19:37 |
| ochosi | and then at a later point we can get to the more complex stuff | 19:37 |
| ochosi | hehe | 19:37 |
| ochosi | nice | 19:37 |
| Sysi | what should "Album" tab contain? it's empty for all my songs | 19:41 |
| ochosi | it should contain all your albums | 19:45 |
| ochosi | if your songs have albums in their tags | 19:45 |
| ochosi | but it might depend on a filter | 19:45 |
| ochosi | can you show me which tab you mean exactly? | 19:45 |
| Sysi | one between Lyrics and Artist in sidepane | 19:46 |
| ochosi | oh yes | 19:47 |
| ochosi | that's also a wrong default setting i just corrected :( | 19:47 |
| ochosi | go to settings > plugins > albuminfo and activate it | 19:47 |
| ochosi | it's pretty nice, you can see album-reviews and infos and tag your albums on-the-fly by clicking the genre-labels in the tab | 19:48 |
| Sysi | I can't see genre for some reason, even if I selected it in plugin settings | 19:51 |
| ochosi | you might have to restart gmb for some of the settings to apply | 19:52 |
| ochosi | (i think it says that in one of the tooltips) | 19:52 |
| Sysi | didn't help, it shows some info but nothing about genre (on various songs) | 19:53 |
| Sysi | well, I don't really need that anyway | 19:54 |
| Sysi | gnome-mmkeys plugin isn't working, even if I have gnome-settings-daemon running | 19:55 |
| ochosi | i'd recommend you to set them through the kb-shortcuts dialog anyway | 19:56 |
| Sysi | do they work globally that way? | 19:56 |
| ochosi | yes | 19:57 |
| ochosi | e.g. "gmusicbrowser -cmd NextSong" | 19:57 |
| ochosi | "gmusicbrowser -cmd PlayPause" | 19:57 |
| ochosi | one of my favorites is: "gmusicbrowser -cmd Quit -ifnotrunning nocmd" | 19:58 |
| ochosi | (that starts gmb if it's not running and quits it when it's running) | 19:58 |
| ochosi | also nice: "gmusicbrowser -cmd ShowHide" | 19:58 |
| ochosi | (to minimize to tray and restore) | 19:58 |
| Sysi | I found -listcmd after some trying | 20:03 |
| ochosi | yup | 20:06 |
| ochosi | there are tons of things you can bind to custom keyboard-shortcuts | 20:06 |
| Sysi | there is tons of everything in gmb | 20:06 |
| ochosi | true | 20:07 |
| ochosi | maybe we should set a few default shortcuts for playpause at least and stuff like that | 20:07 |
| Sysi | shouldn't do any harm | 20:08 |
| Sysi | volume control could be available somewhere besides equalizer, but that's minor tweaking | 20:09 |
| ochosi | we decided to use the indicator-sound for that | 20:10 |
| ochosi | so it's not present in the layout by default | 20:10 |
| ochosi | you can use the scrollwheel on the trayicon though | 20:10 |
| Sysi | it could be in settings, though that makes it minor; for when you want just statically change it | 20:11 |
| ochosi | oh right | 20:11 |
| ochosi | would be possible to pop up a window that shows volume and equalizer | 20:11 |
| ochosi | actually it would just be a custom layout :) | 20:12 |
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