[03:04] <asterismo> hi there
[03:04] <asterismo> i need to figure out something
[03:05] <asterismo> there is a bug in which pulse audio cannot get muted/unmuted with XFCE keyboard shortcuts
[03:05] <asterismo> but in terminal i can use "amixer set Master toggle"
[03:05] <asterismo> but this cannot be executed from xfce shortcut
[03:06] <asterismo> baizon, bipolar, slowz someone?
[03:08] <asterismo> this is my problem
[03:08] <asterismo> i can execute "amixer set Master toggle" in terminal, and everuthing goes fine
[03:08] <asterismo> but the same command does not work as a keyboard shortcut
[03:08] <asterismo> why is that?
[03:15] <asterismo> the key shortcut works for some other key combination, but not for XF86AudioMute
[03:18] <jeepfanatic> was hoping if someone could help me out with a small issue i'm having
[03:19] <jeepfanatic> just installed 12.04 finally and having problems with running the "terminal" screenlet - worked fine in 11.10
[03:19] <jeepfanatic> whenever i try to launch it now it crashes - i did submit a report
[03:22] <Unit193> Alright, what's the bug number?
[03:23] <jeepfanatic> i submitted through the crash report
[03:27] <Unit193> Hmmm... Should still give you a number as it opens firefox.
[03:28] <jeepfanatic_> sorry i disappeared - had to reboot - couldn't get to browser window
[03:29] <jeepfanatic_> i did something dumb a few mins ago
[03:30] <Unit193> Alright, well if it didn't open a browser, I think the bugreport wasn't completed.
[03:30] <jeepfanatic_> gotcha
[03:30] <jeepfanatic_> ok well now it isn't even generating a crash report
[03:30] <jeepfanatic_> but it isn't launching either
[03:30] <jeepfanatic_> going to remove and reinstall screenlets and i'll be back
[03:32] <Unit193> Try purging rather than just uninstall, and you can force the report by doing ubuntu-bug screenlets (whatever the packagename really is)
[06:00] <zzz9> Hi, all
[06:00] <zzz9> Is there any way to apply wim image under linux?
[06:01] <zzz9> I want to restore win7 but I have reorganized all partitions except win7 backup partition on my netbook
[09:52] <xubuntu648> I have a question about installing Xubuntu 11.10, can anyone help me_
[09:54] <hobgoblin> !ask | xubuntu648
[09:55] <xubuntu648> Thanks. I am trying to install Xubuntu 11.10 but it has stalled and is not progressing, what should I do_
[09:58] <hobgoblin> what specs is the machine? where has it stalled? did you check the download and/or cd integrity?
[10:00] <xubuntu648> Its an IBM Thinkpad T60 and i cant say where it has stalled, I just have a screen with Thank You and an installation progress bar at the bottom which is only about 10% done. I see a circle that is rotating, indicating that it is doing something, but it has been doing this for 20 minutes without any change
[10:01] <xubuntu648> i havent checked download or cd integrity, am a computer novice so i dont know how!
[10:04] <hobgoblin> xubuntu648: at the bottom where it says what it is doing - there is an arrow - click it and see if it opens to tell you what it is doing
[10:05] <hobgoblin> xubuntu648: what machine did you burn it on ? windows?
[10:07] <xubuntu648> it was burnt by a friend so I dont know, anyway I clicked the arrow and theres a lot of information, shall i tell you only the last piece of information_
[10:07] <hobgoblin> please
[10:08] <xubuntu648> successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.Upower'
[10:08] <hobgoblin> sounds like it's hung though somewhere - how much RAM do you have?
[10:09] <hobgoblin> never read that one :)
[10:09] <xubuntu648> i think 8GB
[10:09] <hobgoblin> more than enough then
[10:10] <hobgoblin> is it connected to the net?
[10:11] <Guest18866> Hi folks! How do you install themes on Xubuntu?
[10:11] <xubuntu648> further up in the information log it says Client failed to connect to the D+B US Daemon
[10:12] <xubuntu648> yes its connected, or should be
[10:15] <Guest18866> Right.. Themes anyone?
[10:15] <knome> !patience | Guest18866
[10:17] <xubuntu648> hmmm, hobgoblin, i just tried to check my internet connection by opening email and it failed to open, saying the connection was interrupted, so i might not be connected to the net
[12:02] <Humble313> hey, hope you're all well. i'm having wifi problems with ubuntu so i was told to try xubuntu. what's the best version?
[12:06] <blackgatocatnegr> ubuntu is more resources heavy than xubuntu, and honestly look at this channel name, how can be be objective?
[12:10] <Humble313> it's for my dad
[12:10] <Humble313> as long as it has basic features that include openoffice or something he should be fine and compatibility with hp drivers
[12:11] <knome> Humble313, you can have libre(open)office in both and hardware support should be the same
[12:12] <Humble313> but the advantage is that it'll be much faster than ubuntu right?
[12:12] <Humble313> especially since it seems that you only need half the ram
[12:12] <knome> well, somewhat faster. if you install libreoffice, it will still need the ram libreoffice needs
[12:13] <Humble313> the pc has 1.5 gb ram
[12:13] <Humble313> amd athlon single core processor
[12:13] <knome> so depending on the applications you're going to use, it might be quite similar to ram usage
[12:13] <knome> 1.5GB ram is fine
[12:13] <Humble313> and ati radeon x1650 pro graphics card. like i said basic usage.
[12:13] <Humble313> openoffice programs would only be used once in a while. mainly browsing websites and youtube.
[12:14] <Humble313> right now ubuntu is fine but wifi keeps dropping out so i was recommended xubuntu.
[12:14] <knome> i'm not sure if that would help much, especially if it's a hardware issue; again, the hardware support is the same for both
[12:16] <SandJ> First question: does it *need* to be wifi?  Is it a desktop computer in a fixed location that could be connected via a long lead?  It may be quicker and less painful in the long run.
[12:17] <Humble313> the router is in my room and the pc is in the next room
[12:17] <Humble313> it was running perfectly fine via wifi on windows 7
[12:17] <SandJ> It is possible to connect via the mains, BTW.
[12:17] <Humble313> ubuntu detects the usb and the router, connects, doesn't show anything on the web browser and then disconnects and reconnects. same process over and over again.
[12:17] <blackgatocatnegr> xubuntu would be a tad lighter, and honestly, cable internet works better. since the pc s next room, just get a long cable, it wont' afect the speed conection.
[12:18] <SandJ> Also, the first task is to work out what the fault is - the operating system is less likely than the provider, clashes with neighbours' wifi is possible, other forms of interference such as poorly suppressed motors, faulty router, faulty wifi card...
[12:18] <blackgatocatnegr> Humble313, winmoden -_-
[12:18] <knome> Humble313, did you have to use ndiswrapper?
[12:18] <Humble313> what's that?
[12:18] <Humble313> btw this is my first experience with ubuntu/xubuntu
[12:18] <Humble313> only installed yesterday
[12:19] <blackgatocatnegr> Humble313, accient story, basicaly modens that where made for winsows and where really hard or imposible to work on linux.
[12:19] <SandJ> I am 99.937% confident changing the operating system from ubuntu to xubuntu will NOT change this problem.  (Unless it means going from a Ubuntu with an old inappropriate driver to a new Xubuntu with a new driver)
[12:19] <Humble313> ok well the router is bt homehub 3. and no device has had trouble connecting before.
[12:20] <Humble313> whether it be a pc, laptop, netbook, android or ios phone
[12:20] <knome> Humble313, it's a wrapper used by some wireless cards; you might want to check jockey (somewhere in the appmenu under settings/system) if ndiswrapper is enabled
[12:21] <Humble313> does that still apply to wireless usbs? as i haven't used a wireless "card" in years
[12:22] <blackgatocatnegr> Humble313, you could try installing a program to improve your wifi conections, it may help. WiFi Radar works ok sometimes.
[12:22] <Humble313> hmm, i'll try that now
[12:23] <Humble313> what just happened?
[12:24] <knome> Humble313, you were disconnected and reconnected
[12:26] <blackgatocatnegr> Humble313, for some reason irc is very sensitive when you use wifi, even in windows, so you may disconect from irc even if your wifi works fine fr everything else.
[12:27] <Humble313> installing wifi radar now
[12:32] <Humble313> ok configuring now
[12:32] <Humble313> one of the option is regarding wpa
[12:32] <Humble313> currently says no wpa
[12:32] <Humble313> would i just have to put my password there?
[12:34] <Humble313> and apparently my router automatically switches from channel to channel but i dunno if that's true.
[12:36] <Humble313> currently on channel 7
[12:37] <Humble313> do i put the wifi password in the key section or the wpa section?
[12:37] <SkippersBoss> humble, i take it your wifi does have a keyphrase setup ?
[12:38] <SkippersBoss> would be smart :-)
[12:38] <SkippersBoss> other wise a popup box will show every time you connect to it
[12:39] <Humble313> there's two sections on the program. there's the wifi options. i put the channel to 7, mode on auto cos i dunno about that. put password in key, and security restricted?
[12:40] <Humble313> and the other simply says wpa
[12:41] <SkippersBoss> hmm i hae missed something here
[12:41] <SkippersBoss> what end are you configuring here
[12:42] <SkippersBoss> the router or xubuntu
[12:42] <Humble313> i came here because i had a problem with ubuntu, they said xubuntu wouldn't solve it.
[12:42] <SkippersBoss> it sounds like the router
[12:42] <Humble313> so they recommended i install wifi radar
[12:42] <SkippersBoss> a wifi radar
[12:43] <SkippersBoss> like i said i missed somesong
[12:43] <SkippersBoss> something
[12:43] <hobgoblin> Humble313: my bt router is set to channel 1- but it's a version2
[12:43] <hobgoblin> if that's what you;re talking about
[12:44] <Humble313> do i leave the mode to auto in wifi radar?
[12:44] <SkippersBoss> IIRC Humble313 is experiencing intermittent contact on xubuntu right
[12:45] <Humble313> basically my problem was that i installed ubuntu. it detected wireless usb and router but it wouldn't actually connect. first time i've had this problem.
[12:45] <Humble313> if i'm putting key in wifi radar then security type would be restricted yeah?
[12:45] <hobgoblin> SkippersBoss: don't think it connects properly - but I don't know if they've checked in additional drivers - nor what card they actually have
[12:45] <SkippersBoss> wifi radar should giv you all wifi connections in the neighbourhood
[12:46] <SkippersBoss> Trouble with wifi connections can be that if there are to many broadcasting on the same channel you could experience issues
[12:46] <Humble313> there's only one other router near me thats using channel 7
[12:46] <SkippersBoss> hmm
[12:47] <Humble313> but yeah, security type open or restricted since i'm putting a key?
[12:47] <SkippersBoss> restricted
[12:48] <SkippersBoss> I remember experiencing a problem on a friends x24 a week ago.. that had a TP-link card
[12:49] <Humble313> btw, using a wireless 150mbps usb, not card.
[12:49] <Humble313> it started acquiring ip address then ran into unexpected problem
[12:50] <SkippersBoss> Are there any additional drivers activated for the wifi plug ??
[12:51] <Humble313> not that i'm aware of
[12:52] <Humble313> reason says i have an obselete package installed. please install upgrade if possible
[12:52] <SkippersBoss> a :
[12:52] <SkippersBoss> ah
[12:52] <SkippersBoss> have they given a name ??
[12:53] <Humble313> like an error code?
[12:54] <SkippersBoss> can you physically hook up the machine to the net ??
[12:54] <Humble313> yeah but my dad would prefer wifi
[12:54] <SkippersBoss> well they usually give the name of the obsolete package
[12:54] <SkippersBoss> just to get the upgrade sorted
[12:54] <SkippersBoss> :-)
[12:55] <Humble313> right now it's acquiring ip address
[12:55] <Humble313> gosh man, ubuntu was supposed to be simple lol
[12:56] <SkippersBoss> yeah it is 95% of the time
[12:57] <SkippersBoss> Problem lies with the manufacturers  of certain hardware. If they do not donate code to the open source we have a hard controling this
[12:57] <SkippersBoss> :-(
[12:57] <Humble313> i'll stick to ethernet now. gotta do other things but yeah it seems the problem is acquiring the ip address
[12:58] <SkippersBoss> i think your usb network card is not fully supported :-( I do remember this issue...
[12:58] <SkippersBoss> have fun: i need to be doing something else now
[13:10] <SandJ> Humble313, sadly the easiest way of sorting out the WiFi is with the PC connected by
[13:10] <SandJ> cable while you do it.
[13:10] <SandJ> That way you can get all the upgrades and drivers you might need and check connectivity and so on.
[13:12] <blackgatocatnegr> Does "Windows Wireless drivers" program helps at all?
[13:12] <blackgatocatnegr> I never tried it.
[13:13] <blackgatocatnegr> program name "ndisgtk, a GTK+ based frontend for ndiswrapper, allowing an easy way to install Windows wireless drivers."
[13:15] <hobgoblin> I'd guess that a lsusb with the thing plugged in would be rather useful in seeing if the thing has problems
[13:18] <Humble313> ill be sticking to windows on this pc :)
[13:19] <blackgatocatnegr> you could at least try ndisgtk first
[13:20] <Humble313> for ubuntu?
[13:24] <Humble313> i think i've done an additional driver search though
[13:25] <blackgatocatnegr> ndisgtk is in the ubuntu repositories, just search for Windows Wireless drivers
[13:26] <blackgatocatnegr> if that does not help, nothing will.
[13:27] <blackgatocatnegr> unless someone there has made a linux driver that works with your card
[13:27] <Humble313> oh ok, i see. thanks
[17:45] <davidvj> Having a problem completing an upgrade to xfce4 through the ppa. Anybody able to point me in the right direction?
[17:47] <xubuntu329> hello to all
[17:47] <blackgatonegro>  davidvj, try with synaptic
[17:48] <blackgatonegro>  davidvj, if that fails, reboot and in grub pick repair broken packages
[17:48] <xubuntu329> i'm trying to install xubuntu 12.04 but installation crash at "install grub-dummy" can someone help me? thnx
[17:49] <davidvj> It is in synaptic that I think my problem lies ... will try a reboot an see if that helps .. thanks
[17:56] <blackgatonegro> xubuntu329, well try to install xubuntu 11.10 then upgrade to 12.04, then install propietary drives, then restricted drivers
[17:56] <blackgatonegro> thats the solñution official suport seems to be giving
[17:58] <xubuntu329> thnx blackgatonegro i'll try
[18:09] <davidvj> looks like after a reboot the xfce4 ppa is working correctly ..... How do I move the top panel items to the right-hand side?
[18:10] <blackgatonegro> well, did you upgrade to 12.04 already?
[18:10] <davidvj> looks like I am fully upgraded!
[18:11] <blackgatonegro> davidvj, install restricted extras, install propietary video card driver, update?
[18:13] <davidvj> OK will do! How will that help with moving my menu items on the panel?
[18:13] <blackgatonegro> it will not, but it will save you problems later
[18:13] <davidvj> Thanks
[18:16] <davidvj> Just remembered .. I called for restricted extras as a part of my basic install.
[18:16] <blackgatonegro> davidvj, make sre they are installed, try to play a mp3 file
[18:17] <blackgatonegro> davidvj,  if you can heard sound, then is installed
[18:18] <davidvj> I have been playing BBC video material and that is usually the critical test
[18:18] <davidvj> Yes sound was fine
[18:19] <blackgatonegro> ok, next install the propietario video card driver, make sure is the one that has "update" in the name
[18:20] <davidvj> where will I find the prop vid driver? I have already installed colour management ... hope nothing is going to mess with that
[18:26] <blackgatonegro> in settings /adicional drivers
[18:29] <davidvj> I should have known that .... OK; " no drivers available" it tells me. Never found a driver with any prior linux installations
[18:29] <blackgatonegro> Then nevermind then. Now go to system/ update manager and update
[18:31] <davidvj> One last nagging question: I am using 'Industrial' window format (others with the same problem) the window-border is really hard to grip ... have you found a solution?
[18:32] <blackgatonegro> davidvj, try changing the theme
[18:34] <davidvj> Been there and multiply done that ... as I inferred all the themes appear to have the same problem.
[18:35] <knome> davidvj, http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[18:35] <blackgatonegro> Have you changed your video settings?
[18:36] <blackgatonegro> ah wait, video grip, nevermind.
[18:37] <davidvj> Knome: will look at that ... thanks
[18:37] <knome> davidvj, np
[18:39] <blackgatonegro> And here I was thinking it was the windows looking weird, must be all the video problems I usually have on linux
[18:42] <davidvj> knome: learnt something new today .. thanks .. new window tricks for this old dog ... it works quite well
[18:44] <davidvj> All of the video and terrible sound problems that I had disappeared a couple of years ago. All my installs now are mostly clean.
[18:44] <uskerine> hi
[18:44] <uskerine> i am using live distribution from xubuntu
[18:45] <uskerine> i disabled the wifi last time i used the system
[18:45] <uskerine> and now i can not find the small icon on the task bar to get connected again
[18:45] <uskerine> any ideas on how to reactivate wifi? it seems it has been disabled
[18:46] <davidvj> The icons are a bit hard to see .. did you change your background?
[18:46] <uskerine> no i didn't
[18:46] <uskerine> i see the bluetooth
[18:46] <davidvj> If you are talking to us then you can not be disconnected!!
[18:47] <uskerine> :)
[18:47] <uskerine> i am taking through other computer
[18:48] <uskerine> talking
[18:48] <uskerine> so my xubuntu is disconnected
[18:48] <uskerine> :(
[18:49] <davidvj> go to 'settings > network connections'
[18:50] <uskerine> errr
[18:50] <Yancho> guys, i am trying to install ubuntuone on xubuntu. however after installing ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk when i go settings > ubuntu one control panel - the application is crashing .. any idea from where to start fixing please?
[18:50] <uskerine> it was just clicking on the double arrow icon
[18:50] <uskerine> and "enabling the wifi"
[18:50] <uskerine> i feel a bit embarrased.... :) but it works now
[18:50] <uskerine> thanks anyway i return back to xubuntu
[18:50] <blackgatonegro> Yancho, try reboot, grub, fix broken pakages
[18:50] <davidvj> glad to help
[18:51] <Yancho> how to enter into grub blackgatonegro ?
[18:52] <blackgatonegro> reboot, in the menu, pick the second option of the linux version you are using, then pick recover /fix broken packages
[18:53] <Yancho> ok will do thanks :)
[19:01] <Yancho> blackgatonegro, did that - now when i start it, no application is starting. ps aux | grep ubuntuon gives :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1059570/ any idea?
[19:02] <recon69_lap> hi, I'm trying to use eclipse IDE, But I get  "bash: /home/mec/opt/eclipse/eclipse: cannot execute binary file" when I try start it from the command line?
[19:04] <blackgatonegro> Yancho, try to fully remove ubuntu one using synaptic, then reintall it using synaptic, make sure you have smart upgrade enabled.
[19:12] <recon69_lap> never mind, look like i trying to run legacy 64bit install of eclipse on a new 32bit install
[19:20] <recon69_lap> aggh, how to you shrink a dialog thats to big for screen?
[19:21] <blackgatocatnegr> recon69_lap, try to resize the windows or just change your screen resolution, chaging the minumn font size also may help
[19:22] <recon69_lap> cant resize the dialog, it's off the screen !!!!
[19:24] <Sysi> Alt+Right click
[19:24] <recon69_lap> maximize worked this time :) , but second program I'v had this problem with
[19:24] <blackgatocatnegr> recon69_lap, change xubuntu minimun font size
[19:25] <blackgatocatnegr> recon69_lap,  or change screen resolution.
[19:26] <recon69_lap> resolution is up as far as it will go, I'll try minimum font, but i hope it does not make it hard to read text
[19:31] <recon69_lap> nope can't find minimum font anywhere
[19:33] <blackgatocatnegr> Try settings / setting manager / appearance / default font
[19:37] <recon69_lap> blackgatocatnegr: duh, I knew that :) thx from the help
[20:00] <xubuntu600> hello?
[20:02] <baizon> hello :)
[20:02] <xubuntu600> Hey if anyone can haelp me I just installed Xubuntu 12.0.4 and can't get my laptops speakers to work
[20:04] <baizon> xubuntu600: check pavucontrol
[20:04] <baizon> check there for outputs
[20:04] <xubuntu600> I've tried every setting but no luck
[20:05] <baizon> xubuntu600: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[20:13] <blackgatonegro> check pulseaudio
[20:21] <xubuntu872> hola friends - quick question.  what desktop environment does xubuntu 12 come with?
[20:22] <Sysi> xfce
[20:22] <baizon> xfce 4.10
[20:22] <baizon> nooo
[20:22] <baizon> sorry
[20:22] <baizon> xfce 4.8
[20:29] <xubuntu872> ok, thanks.  i've got xubuntu running in a virtual machine, do i just not get a desktop environment?
[20:33] <blackgatonegro> nope, you get it, only emulated and that.
[20:35] <xubuntu872> how do i convince it to run?  it's telling me that $display is not set and that this version of fte must be run under x11.  xorg is up to date, i know because i tried to apt get install it.
[20:37] <blackgatonegro> "Mmm.... try using wubi then"
[20:39] <xubuntu872> wubi is a windows installer?  i'm not tryint to install it under windows
[20:40] <blackgatonegro> then just boot it from the live cd and not install it
[20:42] <blackgatonegro> have you read this? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox
[20:43] <blackgatonegro> there is also http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableubuntu/
[20:45] <blackgatonegro> but that one is a bit outdated
[20:50] <xubuntu872> i'm looking at the first one.  i think i have a different version of vmware.  it's trying to do easyinstall, which a cursory google search recommends against.
[20:51] <blackgatonegro> mmm
[20:51] <blackgatonegro> try with the alternate cd
[20:51] <blackgatonegro> or try with 11.10 then upgrade
[20:58] <xubuntu872> ok, i'll try version 11 when i get home tonight.  thanks!
[21:04] <Zubin> how to install a usb modem in xubuntu?
[21:05] <recon69_lap> Zubin: plug it in to a usb port?
[21:05] <Zubin> ya but it did not read.
[21:07] <Zubin> i tried even to change the modules and add the usb serial option but the file did not save and hence i could not load the modules.
[21:08] <recon69_lap> hang on, I'm getting a message from the sprits, is the modem a  Belkin Wireless G ? :)
[21:09] <Zubin> no its a micromax 3g modem.
[21:10] <recon69_lap> Zubin: try use lsusb to identify the usb code for the modem, then have a look at supported hardware
[21:18] <recon69_lap> Zubin: these commands might help too http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:20] <recon69_lap> Zubin: opps http://paste.ubuntu.com/1059784/
[22:42] <Marzata> how do you connect Android 4.0.4 to Xubuntu 12.04? usb cabel? wifi? ssh?
[22:45] <ochosi> Marzata: or bluetooth?
[22:45] <ochosi> i guess much depends on what you want to do
[22:45] <ochosi> but i have no experience with that whatsoever, so i wouldn't know
[22:45] <ochosi> (don't have android)
[22:46] <lemmoner> I do via USB
[22:47] <Marzata> isn't that suppose to be linux and they to talk together ...
[22:47] <GridCube> not... really
[22:47] <Marzata> the next proprietary crap ...
[22:48]  * SkippersBoss uses wifi through the router. to connect to his Arc to his xubuntu machine
[22:48] <knome> Marzata, recheck the attitude
[22:49]  * SkippersBoss has not yet been able to sync his se arc with his xubuntu box :-(
[22:49] <Marzata> imagine ...
[22:50] <lemmoner> aren't android sources available?
[22:51] <GridCube> yes they are somewhere
[22:52] <lemmoner> then it is a matter of time a fork appears
[22:53] <knome> #xubuntu-offtopic for android discussion
[23:02] <knome> holstein, hello. can you please turn off awaynicks? thanks.
[23:02] <knome> Htbrdd, ^
[23:02] <knome> holstein, sorry ;)
[23:03] <Htbrdd> yes?
[23:04] <knome> Htbrdd, please turn off awaynicks
[23:04] <Htbrdd> why do i need to do that? not trying to be rude just asking?
[23:05] <knome> Htbrdd, that's a channel policy, we try to avoid any unnecessary "lines"/messages sent to users; sometimes the channels is really busy even without
[23:05] <Htbrdd> my irc bouncer sets away when i log out.
[23:05] <knome> Htbrdd, i'm sure there's some kind of option to turn that off
[23:06] <knome> Htbrdd, setting /away is ok, using awaynick is not
[23:06] <knome> Htbrdd, there's a big difference :)
[23:06] <Htbrdd> yea i think it sets away for just #freenode not just a channel. but i will look into it.
[23:06] <knome> Htbrdd, both nick and /away are network-wide