| jelmer | moin | 07:21 |
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| jazon | hello everybody I have a problem with my bzr server when I do a push on command line it say me 'not a branch', when I try with bzr explorer it say me 'This transport does not update the working tree' | 13:14 |
| jelmer | jazon: is the location you're pushing from aqctually a branch? | 13:15 |
| jazon | Yes | 13:15 |
| jelmer | jazon: what does "bzr info" say about it? | 13:15 |
| jazon | jelmer http://pastebin.com/4RuAA94X | 13:17 |
| jazon | can you help me? | 13:23 |
| jelmer | jazon: I mean, what does "bzr info" say about your local branch? | 13:23 |
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| jazon | I wasn't in good directory... | 13:24 |
| jazon | http://pastebin.com/fVr1VAyK | 13:26 |
| jelmer | jazon: so 'bzr push' works now? | 13:28 |
| jazon | no, it's say me look at bzr help working-trees | 13:29 |
| jazon | I don't understand what is the matter | 13:30 |
| jelmer | jazon: if you push to a remote location, bzr will only update the remote branch | 13:31 |
| jelmer | not the remote working tree | 13:31 |
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| jelmer | for that, you need to run 'bzr up' on the remote server | 13:32 |
| jazon | I have to be connected permanently on my server with ssh? | 13:32 |
| jelmer | jazon: no, you just have to run 'bzr up' after you push to the branch | 13:34 |
| jelmer | jazon: (if you care about the working tree on the server side) | 13:34 |
| jazon | I have to run bzr up on the server no? | 13:36 |
| abentley | jelmer: thanks for your comment on my merge proposal. Did you mean to vote "approve"? | 13:42 |
| jelmer | jazon: if you want to have the working tree up to date, yes | 13:45 |
| jelmer | abentley: Euhm, yes.. one sec | 13:45 |
| jelmer | abentley: done | 13:49 |
| abentley | jelmer: thanks. | 13:49 |
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| Qaghan | Guys, for some reason I cannot commit this project to Launchpad, even though I got my ssh set up and everything. I keep getting the bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir() error | 18:50 |
| mgrandi | hello | 22:23 |
| jelmer | hi mgrandi | 22:29 |
| mgrandi | do you happen to have gpg installed without an agent? | 22:30 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: I didn't hit this particular issue but some other people did | 22:34 |
| mgrandi | yeah | 22:34 |
| mgrandi | well i meant | 22:34 |
| mgrandi | i'm writing up a response now, but from reading the gpg man page, it seems that $GPG_AGENT_INFO will be defined if you have an agent | 22:34 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: mgz was able to reproduce it, apparently withtout a gpg agent | 22:34 |
| mgrandi | and i'm trying to make sure thats the case | 22:34 |
| mgrandi | cause then we can just check to see if that variable is define, and do the right thing from there | 22:34 |
| mgrandi | i have no idea what happens on windows | 22:35 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: I'm wondering if we should be specifying this option at all - shouldn't gpg already try to do this by itself? | 22:35 |
| mgrandi | thats what i think | 22:35 |
| mgrandi | but the whole issue was that while bzr explorer, that gpg would be printing stuff out to a tty | 22:36 |
| mgrandi | gpg: cannot open `/dev/tty': No such device or address | 22:36 |
| mgrandi | bzr: ERROR: Failed to GPG sign data with command "['gpg', '--clearsign']" | 22:36 |
| mgrandi | caused that ^ | 22:36 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: without a gpg agent? | 22:37 |
| mgrandi | that was with an agent | 22:37 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: why would it need a tty if you have an agent? | 22:37 |
| mgrandi | good question. gpg says on the --no-tty option: "Make sure that the TTY (terminal) is never used for any output. This option is needed in some cases because GnuPG sometimes prints warnings to the TTY even if --batch is used." | 22:38 |
| mgrandi | and --quiet means "try and be as quiet as possible" | 22:38 |
| mgrandi | i dont know what happens if you tried to use bzr explorer to sign without an agent | 22:39 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: it's not wrong to use the TTY | 22:39 |
| mgrandi | yes, but on linux it was saying that it can't find /dev/tty | 22:39 |
| mgrandi | which makes me think that it doesn't "have" a tty to print out to | 22:40 |
| mgrandi | cause its a pyqt4 app | 22:40 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: was that bit fatal though? | 22:40 |
| mgrandi | it caused signing to fail | 22:40 |
| mgrandi | the code just says "failed to gpg sign" if gpg doesn't return 0 | 22:40 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: but it tries to use the gpg agent first | 22:40 |
| mgrandi | i know | 22:43 |
| mgrandi | i just tried on my mac, if you enter the wrong password, it prints "gpg: Invalid passphrase; please try again ..." | 22:43 |
| mgrandi | to the terminal | 22:43 |
| jelmer | rigfht, it falls back to the tty if using the gpg agent doesn't work | 22:43 |
| mgrandi | im not exactly sure whats going on with the original bug report, since it worked on windows and mac fine | 22:43 |
| mgrandi | with just 'gpg --clearsign' | 22:43 |
| mgrandi | but then on linux, somehow running bzr explorer meant it didn't have a tty? | 22:44 |
| mgrandi | should it have one? | 22:44 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: I think we should revert the use of --no-tty for now, as it causes a serious regression | 22:44 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: right, bzr explorer usually wouldn't have a tty | 22:44 |
| mgrandi | hmm. | 22:45 |
| mgrandi | thats why i was thinking of just checking to see if we have an agent | 22:45 |
| mgrandi | cause --no-tty works fine if you have an agent, but if you dont, you need the terminal to enter your passphrase | 22:45 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: that means there won't be any fallback to the terminal if the gpg agent doesn't work | 22:46 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: I'm worrying we're trying to do gpg's job for it | 22:47 |
| jelmer | this sort of logic really belongs in gpg, not bzr | 22:47 |
| mgrandi | yeah. so if we don't want to use --no-tty, then how do we solve the original problem , with signing failing cause of no /dev/tty | 22:47 |
| mgrandi | you say you want to use terminal as a fallback, but then if we are using bzr explorer, then there is no terminal (in most cases) to fall back to | 22:48 |
| mgrandi | err, 1/3 cases | 22:48 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: I think that might warrant some more investigation, but this is a serious regression.. let's at least fix that bit | 22:50 |
| mgrandi | yeah | 22:50 |
| mgrandi | go for it | 22:50 |
| mgrandi | or do i have to do something | 22:50 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: no, that's okay | 22:50 |
| mgrandi | it seems that all of this is just sprouting from the fact that we are using gpg as a separate program rather then a nice api we can bind to, but don't think there is any way around that | 22:51 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: it would be interesting to use pygmge to do the actual signing | 22:51 |
| jelmer | but that's a significantly larger change | 22:51 |
| mgrandi | yeah | 22:51 |
| mgrandi | but we might have to cause we are juggling where bzr is being run as | 22:51 |
| mgrandi | command line, bzr explorer started from terminal, bzr explorer without a terminal, | 22:52 |
| mgrandi | and isn't that the thing that is required to check signatures? | 22:52 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: how do you mean? | 22:53 |
| mgrandi | if you try and run bzr verify signatures without it installed you get this: bzr: ERROR: python-gpgme is not installed, it is needed to verify signatures | 22:54 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: ah, yes, it is | 22:55 |
| mgrandi | looking at 'gpgme', the gpg folks say that applications should use that, so that seems like that would be the better solution | 23:00 |
| jelmer | mgrandi: perhaps the best thing to do is to revert this fix, and just consider moving gpgme for signing a proper fix for bug 847388 | 23:02 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 847388 in bzr (Ubuntu Precise) ""gpg: cannot open `/dev/tty': No such device or address" on Ubuntu when signing commits" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/847388 | 23:02 |
| mgrandi | yeah | 23:02 |
| mgrandi | i say revert it, the bzr explorer bug can be worked around by just using the terminal to commit | 23:02 |
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