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kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1017709] package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal sc... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1017709 (by jjinco33)01:45
claydohRiddell: yes a ping does wonders near a release 02:40
claydohjussi: what do i need to get back to you on?02:41
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Riddellclaydoh: fancy doing an alpha 2 announce page?07:36
Riddellclaydoh: see kubuntu-devel for various seed changes in testing07:36
Riddelltesters needed for plasma mediacentre! https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa/+packages07:42
Riddell!testers07:42
ubottuTesting help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, em07:42
soeeRiddell, im on 11.10 (12.04 home) here at work now, wan't to test it now?07:45
Riddellsoee: you'll need 12.1007:46
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soeeRiddell, so ill try at home later07:47
Riddelluh oh live images broken from telepathy07:53
Riddelldebfx: oops, you used 0.4.0ubuntu2 instead of 0.4.0-0ubuntu2 in meta-kde-telepathy08:10
debfxRiddell: yes, it's a native package08:12
RiddellI think I'll rename all the kde-telepathy packages to 08:12
Riddell0.4.0a08:12
debfxah that screwed up the dependencies08:12
debfxwhat?08:12
debfxno08:13
Riddelldebfx: yeah but the debian/rules file there has some magic to make it depend on the same version of all the other packages08:13
Riddelldpkg-parsechangelog | grep '^Version: ' | sed 's/^Version: //' | cut -d'-' -f108:13
Riddellmaybe that should be altered08:13
Riddelldpkg-parsechangelog | grep '^Version: ' | sed 's/^Version: //' | sed "s,-.ubuntu.,," ?08:14
debfxyes, it's already fixed in Debian08:14
Riddellaah08:14
Riddelldebfx: where, I see no meta-kde-telepathy in debian08:15
Riddell"KTP_VERSION=0.4.0" hah, easy workaround08:16
debfxI'll upload the fix08:16
Riddellactually that debian git version is a day older than the one in the launchpad PPA08:17
Riddelljjesse: can we get littlegirl added to ubuntu-core-doc?08:50
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jjesseRiddell, yes i think i have rights12:44
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Riddelljjesse: do add in littlergirl12:49
jjessechecking to see if i have rights to add a member12:50
jjesseok added let me know if need more :)12:51
jjessehttps://launchpad.net/~littlergirl12:51
jjesseright user?12:51
Riddellyes that's her12:51
jjessecool she's added and all set12:51
Riddellshe just made this nice page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/SystemDocumentation12:51
jjessewow nice12:52
Riddelldantti: colord-kde, what is it and do we want it?12:54
shadeslayerRiddell: it's a color calibration tool, needs a colorhug device to calibrate your screen13:19
shadeslayer( or atleast that's what I think it is )13:20
shadeslayerRiddell: https://dantti.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/colord-kde-0-2-released/13:20
Riddellshadeslayer: yeah I found that, I just wanted to hear it from the man himself :)13:25
shadeslayeroh .. ok13:25
shadeslayerRiddell: what's our new CD image size again?13:25
Riddell1GB13:26
Riddell"The Qt 5 beta is getting closer, and I think we'll have something13:27
Riddellreleasable within the next two weeks."13:27
Riddellsays Lars of upstream13:27
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ScottK|o/ - As of yesterday I'm officially an RFC author: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc6652/13:47
ScottKRiddell: The version of PyQt in New in Debian right now has Qt5 support (not sure how complete).13:48
shadeslayerScottK++13:50
RiddellScottK: elite!13:52
Riddellhow do you get that?13:52
RiddellScottK: presumably it's not compiled since there's no Qt 5 to load13:52
ScottKI think once Qt5 is packaged we'll have to build against it too, but I'm not sure.13:53
ScottKPhil said something about changing imports from PyQt4 to PyQt5 to change which you were dealing with.13:53
ScottKPorting will allegedly be trivial.13:53
Riddellpackaging qt5 will be a fair sized job, nothing rockey science but there's a lot of it13:54
Riddellthe canonical ones are a good start but they're entirely monolithic, needs a lot of splitting up13:54
ScottKI wonder if fabo started on it?14:02
Riddellafiestas_: do you know if akonadi-facebook, libkolab and/or webaccounts are in any state for distros to package?14:35
afiestas_libkolab is mandatory for 4.9, so it must work14:36
afiestas_akonadi-facebook kinda, Martin K is working on it and it works "for me" 14:36
afiestas_webaccounts should be, though not installed by defauilt14:36
Riddellyou have the answers :)14:37
Riddelloxygen font was the other thing I was wondering about14:44
Riddellapachelogger: you said it wasn't at all ready?14:44
Riddellclaydoh: skeat would like some headline items at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 too14:45
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shadeslayerhah15:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: ping15:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2012-June/003782.html15:33
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jussiclaydoh: kubuntuforums information...16:15
jussiso ladles and gents, i have bad news (or good depending on who you are :P )16:27
jussiI will be going to Akademy, However, I will only be able to attend the saturday - so feel free to come grab me on the saturday if you have time, and want to... :D16:28
shadeslayer!find libtelepathy-farstream.so16:40
ubottuFile libtelepathy-farstream.so found in libtelepathy-farstream-dev, libtelepathy-farstream2, libtelepathy-farstream2-dbg16:40
shadeslayerthat's weird16:41
danttiRiddell: well you don't actually need a colorimeter to calibrate your screen you can download icc profiles too, also it also drives color correction in cups too, it's default on gnome, and other distros are starting to use it too, I'm about to make a new release which fix some small issues but the current version is quite stable18:04
claydohjussi: is that in regards to irc? No movement on that, we should just set it aside for now18:07
jussiwhats darkwings nick nowadays? 18:07
jussiclaydoh: wait18:07
jussiclaydoh: staff had a request from kubuntuforums to register #kubuntuforums-* 18:08
jussithey wanted the council to clear that.18:08
jussipersonally, I think its fine, but should go to the ircc to get the ok18:08
jussibut Riddell, ScottK, apachelogger and Jon need to weigh in.18:11
ScottKjussi: Since we don't have any oversight over Kubuntu Forums, I think they should just register it.18:14
jussiScottK: I am pretty close to the same view, and I expect the ircc to be the same, but out of politeness, I think its a good idea to let them know and have the chance to have an opinion18:17
jussiperhaps Pici or Tm_T want to comment for the record now even. 18:18
ScottKUnless it's going to be an IRCC managed channel, I don't think it's neeeded.18:20
jussiScottK: well that is the real question isnt it... whether it falls under Our, or IRCC areas. Personally, I think its neither, but as staff have asked, I think we have a duty to pass it on. 18:22
ScottKWho did staff ask?  KC or IRCC?18:22
jussiScottK: its rather irrelevent to the question. What Im saying is simply, as a courtesy, to confirm with the IRCC that this does indeed fall outside of the area that they manage.18:27
claydohI think that we (as in kubuntuforums) do not need a channel so much that we need to have to go through any councils18:28
claydohI do not remember who requested to register the channel 18:29
ScottKjussi: ^^^ It's way, way too much bureaucracy.  First it's a courtesy check, then it's reviews and approvals and they just go elsewhere.18:29
jussiScottK: its really not. all we wait for is one of the ircc to go "yeah, its no issue" then they go finish registration and are never bothered again. 18:31
ScottKAren't you on the IRCC council?18:31
jussino18:31
claydohas the channel does have a *buntu name we can understand the process but as we are so small in number (3-5) a channel was just an option for quick communication 18:34
jussiclaydoh: ahh, right, so you arent making a public channel like the #ubuntuforums? 18:34
claydohI think it was Snowhog who must have made the request, I forwarded the info to him, I'll see if we want to pusue this18:34
Riddelljussi: do you know why they want to use #kubuntuforums-* ?18:53
Riddellwhat's missing from the existing kubuntu channels?18:53
jussiRiddell: as far as I understand, they just want a co-ordination channel 18:54
claydohRiddell:  we just wanted to have a real-time meeting/discussion place mostly18:54
shadeslayerwhy not #ubuntu-meeting?18:54
claydoh^^ yeah what jussi said :)18:54
jussishadeslayer: its not for one meeting a week things, but more like what you have with the channel for ninjas18:55
jussihave/had? (I havent kept up)18:55
shadeslayerwe have a channel for ninjas?18:55
shadeslayerdeprecated iirc18:56
claydohshadeslayer: kububtuforums is independent18:57
Riddelljussi, claydoh: all good with me anyway18:57
shadeslayerclaydoh: I thought #ubuntu-meeting could be used as a meeting ground for anything related to ubuntu18:57
Riddelldunno if freenode will allow them to register it though, I registered #kubuntu* back in the day and it got stolen of my by ubuntu18:57
Riddelloff me18:57
Riddell(which is fine)18:58
jussiRiddell: you are still GC for #kubuntu-*18:58
Riddelljussi: GC?18:58
ScottKshadeslayer: I think they want it for real time chat, not scheduled meetings.18:58
shadeslayeroh, like -offtopic, but a bit more official?18:58
claydohScottK: agreed18:58
Riddellshadeslayer: no for forum admin chat I think18:58
ScottKshadeslayer: No, I think for the people that run it.18:59
ScottKIn that case, I think Riddell should just give his blessing and we move on.18:59
jussiRiddell: group contact, the person with control.18:59
Riddelljussi: how do you know that?18:59
shadeslayerthat's what I meant, like -offtopic, for people who run the forums18:59
shadeslayerI hope I'm not blocking anything, just curious as to what's all this about19:00
RiddellI bless thee oh #kubuntuforums-*19:00
shadeslayer:D19:00
jussiRiddell: because I made damn sure it was like that when I was on the IRCC, after you complained the first time.19:00
Riddellshadeslayer: -offtopic is random chatter, this is for discussing admin for those forums19:00
jussiright, Ill tell staff.19:01
Riddelljussi: mm, interesting19:01
shadeslayerok19:01
claydohshadeslayer: imo a bit too much focus on a very very minor thing 19:01
claydohbut much appreciated, jussi and Riddell19:01
shadeslayerclaydoh: heh, yeah, like I said, my questions were not meant to block anything, just curious about what's happening19:02
claydohshadeslayer: I know, let's just say we at kubuntuforums shy away from bureaucracy no matter how small or friendly ;)19:04
shadeslayer:)19:05
claydohwhich has its positives and negatives19:05
Riddell!newversion calligra 2.4.319:06
ubottuRiddell: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:06
Riddellkubotu: newversion calligra 2.4.319:06
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/101807119:07
Riddellnice :)19:07
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1010173] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: conffile './etc/xdg/Troll... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1010173 (by lacpsam89)21:56
JontheEchidnadohoho, a build-dep on libqapt-dev was added whilst I was away fishing on vacation? /me checks it out :>23:59

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