[01:45] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1017709] package kdm (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal sc... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1017709 (by jjinco33)
[02:40] <claydoh> Riddell: yes a ping does wonders near a release 
[02:41] <claydoh> jussi: what do i need to get back to you on?
[07:36] <Riddell> claydoh: fancy doing an alpha 2 announce page?
[07:36] <Riddell> claydoh: see kubuntu-devel for various seed changes in testing
[07:42] <Riddell> testers needed for plasma mediacentre! https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa/+packages
[07:42] <Riddell> !testers
[07:45] <soee> Riddell, im on 11.10 (12.04 home) here at work now, wan't to test it now?
[07:46] <Riddell> soee: you'll need 12.10
[07:47] <soee> Riddell, so ill try at home later
[07:53] <Riddell> uh oh live images broken from telepathy
[08:10] <Riddell> debfx: oops, you used 0.4.0ubuntu2 instead of 0.4.0-0ubuntu2 in meta-kde-telepathy
[08:12] <debfx> Riddell: yes, it's a native package
[08:12] <Riddell> I think I'll rename all the kde-telepathy packages to 
[08:12] <Riddell> 0.4.0a
[08:12] <debfx> ah that screwed up the dependencies
[08:12] <debfx> what?
[08:13] <debfx> no
[08:13] <Riddell> debfx: yeah but the debian/rules file there has some magic to make it depend on the same version of all the other packages
[08:13] <Riddell> dpkg-parsechangelog | grep '^Version: ' | sed 's/^Version: //' | cut -d'-' -f1
[08:13] <Riddell> maybe that should be altered
[08:14] <Riddell> dpkg-parsechangelog | grep '^Version: ' | sed 's/^Version: //' | sed "s,-.ubuntu.,," ?
[08:14] <debfx> yes, it's already fixed in Debian
[08:14] <Riddell> aah
[08:15] <Riddell> debfx: where, I see no meta-kde-telepathy in debian
[08:16] <Riddell> "KTP_VERSION=0.4.0" hah, easy workaround
[08:16] <debfx> I'll upload the fix
[08:17] <Riddell> actually that debian git version is a day older than the one in the launchpad PPA
[08:50] <Riddell> jjesse: can we get littlegirl added to ubuntu-core-doc?
[12:44] <jjesse> Riddell, yes i think i have rights
[12:49] <Riddell> jjesse: do add in littlergirl
[12:50] <jjesse> checking to see if i have rights to add a member
[12:51] <jjesse> ok added let me know if need more :)
[12:51] <jjesse> https://launchpad.net/~littlergirl
[12:51] <jjesse> right user?
[12:51] <Riddell> yes that's her
[12:51] <jjesse> cool she's added and all set
[12:51] <Riddell> she just made this nice page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/SystemDocumentation
[12:52] <jjesse> wow nice
[12:54] <Riddell> dantti: colord-kde, what is it and do we want it?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: it's a color calibration tool, needs a colorhug device to calibrate your screen
[13:20] <shadeslayer> ( or atleast that's what I think it is )
[13:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://dantti.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/colord-kde-0-2-released/
[13:25] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yeah I found that, I just wanted to hear it from the man himself :)
[13:25] <shadeslayer> oh .. ok
[13:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what's our new CD image size again?
[13:26] <Riddell> 1GB
[13:27] <Riddell> "The Qt 5 beta is getting closer, and I think we'll have something
[13:27] <Riddell> releasable within the next two weeks."
[13:27] <Riddell> says Lars of upstream
[13:47] <ScottK> |o/ - As of yesterday I'm officially an RFC author: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc6652/
[13:48] <ScottK> Riddell: The version of PyQt in New in Debian right now has Qt5 support (not sure how complete).
[13:50] <shadeslayer> ScottK++
[13:52] <Riddell> ScottK: elite!
[13:52] <Riddell> how do you get that?
[13:52] <Riddell> ScottK: presumably it's not compiled since there's no Qt 5 to load
[13:53] <ScottK> I think once Qt5 is packaged we'll have to build against it too, but I'm not sure.
[13:53] <ScottK> Phil said something about changing imports from PyQt4 to PyQt5 to change which you were dealing with.
[13:53] <ScottK> Porting will allegedly be trivial.
[13:54] <Riddell> packaging qt5 will be a fair sized job, nothing rockey science but there's a lot of it
[13:54] <Riddell> the canonical ones are a good start but they're entirely monolithic, needs a lot of splitting up
[14:02] <ScottK> I wonder if fabo started on it?
[14:35] <Riddell> afiestas_: do you know if akonadi-facebook, libkolab and/or webaccounts are in any state for distros to package?
[14:36] <afiestas_> libkolab is mandatory for 4.9, so it must work
[14:36] <afiestas_> akonadi-facebook kinda, Martin K is working on it and it works "for me" 
[14:36] <afiestas_> webaccounts should be, though not installed by defauilt
[14:37] <Riddell> you have the answers :)
[14:44] <Riddell> oxygen font was the other thing I was wondering about
[14:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: you said it wasn't at all ready?
[14:45] <Riddell> claydoh: skeat would like some headline items at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 too
[15:33] <shadeslayer> hah
[15:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ping
[15:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2012-June/003782.html
[16:15] <jussi> claydoh: kubuntuforums information...
[16:27] <jussi> so ladles and gents, i have bad news (or good depending on who you are :P )
[16:28] <jussi> I will be going to Akademy, However, I will only be able to attend the saturday - so feel free to come grab me on the saturday if you have time, and want to... :D
[16:40] <shadeslayer> !find libtelepathy-farstream.so
[16:41] <shadeslayer> that's weird
[18:04] <dantti> Riddell: well you don't actually need a colorimeter to calibrate your screen you can download icc profiles too, also it also drives color correction in cups too, it's default on gnome, and other distros are starting to use it too, I'm about to make a new release which fix some small issues but the current version is quite stable
[18:07] <claydoh> jussi: is that in regards to irc? No movement on that, we should just set it aside for now
[18:07] <jussi> whats darkwings nick nowadays? 
[18:07] <jussi> claydoh: wait
[18:08] <jussi> claydoh: staff had a request from kubuntuforums to register #kubuntuforums-* 
[18:08] <jussi> they wanted the council to clear that.
[18:08] <jussi> personally, I think its fine, but should go to the ircc to get the ok
[18:11] <jussi> but Riddell, ScottK, apachelogger and Jon need to weigh in.
[18:14] <ScottK> jussi: Since we don't have any oversight over Kubuntu Forums, I think they should just register it.
[18:17] <jussi> ScottK: I am pretty close to the same view, and I expect the ircc to be the same, but out of politeness, I think its a good idea to let them know and have the chance to have an opinion
[18:18] <jussi> perhaps Pici or Tm_T want to comment for the record now even. 
[18:20] <ScottK> Unless it's going to be an IRCC managed channel, I don't think it's neeeded.
[18:22] <jussi> ScottK: well that is the real question isnt it... whether it falls under Our, or IRCC areas. Personally, I think its neither, but as staff have asked, I think we have a duty to pass it on. 
[18:22] <ScottK> Who did staff ask?  KC or IRCC?
[18:27] <jussi> ScottK: its rather irrelevent to the question. What Im saying is simply, as a courtesy, to confirm with the IRCC that this does indeed fall outside of the area that they manage.
[18:28] <claydoh> I think that we (as in kubuntuforums) do not need a channel so much that we need to have to go through any councils
[18:29] <claydoh> I do not remember who requested to register the channel 
[18:29] <ScottK> jussi: ^^^ It's way, way too much bureaucracy.  First it's a courtesy check, then it's reviews and approvals and they just go elsewhere.
[18:31] <jussi> ScottK: its really not. all we wait for is one of the ircc to go "yeah, its no issue" then they go finish registration and are never bothered again. 
[18:31] <ScottK> Aren't you on the IRCC council?
[18:31] <jussi> no
[18:34] <claydoh> as the channel does have a *buntu name we can understand the process but as we are so small in number (3-5) a channel was just an option for quick communication 
[18:34] <jussi> claydoh: ahh, right, so you arent making a public channel like the #ubuntuforums? 
[18:34] <claydoh> I think it was Snowhog who must have made the request, I forwarded the info to him, I'll see if we want to pusue this
[18:53] <Riddell> jussi: do you know why they want to use #kubuntuforums-* ?
[18:53] <Riddell> what's missing from the existing kubuntu channels?
[18:54] <jussi> Riddell: as far as I understand, they just want a co-ordination channel 
[18:54] <claydoh> Riddell:  we just wanted to have a real-time meeting/discussion place mostly
[18:54] <shadeslayer> why not #ubuntu-meeting?
[18:54] <claydoh> ^^ yeah what jussi said :)
[18:55] <jussi> shadeslayer: its not for one meeting a week things, but more like what you have with the channel for ninjas
[18:55] <jussi> have/had? (I havent kept up)
[18:55] <shadeslayer> we have a channel for ninjas?
[18:56] <shadeslayer> deprecated iirc
[18:57] <claydoh> shadeslayer: kububtuforums is independent
[18:57] <Riddell> jussi, claydoh: all good with me anyway
[18:57] <shadeslayer> claydoh: I thought #ubuntu-meeting could be used as a meeting ground for anything related to ubuntu
[18:57] <Riddell> dunno if freenode will allow them to register it though, I registered #kubuntu* back in the day and it got stolen of my by ubuntu
[18:57] <Riddell> off me
[18:58] <Riddell> (which is fine)
[18:58] <jussi> Riddell: you are still GC for #kubuntu-*
[18:58] <Riddell> jussi: GC?
[18:58] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I think they want it for real time chat, not scheduled meetings.
[18:58] <shadeslayer> oh, like -offtopic, but a bit more official?
[18:58] <claydoh> ScottK: agreed
[18:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no for forum admin chat I think
[18:59] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No, I think for the people that run it.
[18:59] <ScottK> In that case, I think Riddell should just give his blessing and we move on.
[18:59] <jussi> Riddell: group contact, the person with control.
[18:59] <Riddell> jussi: how do you know that?
[18:59] <shadeslayer> that's what I meant, like -offtopic, for people who run the forums
[19:00] <shadeslayer> I hope I'm not blocking anything, just curious as to what's all this about
[19:00] <Riddell> I bless thee oh #kubuntuforums-*
[19:00] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:00] <jussi> Riddell: because I made damn sure it was like that when I was on the IRCC, after you complained the first time.
[19:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: -offtopic is random chatter, this is for discussing admin for those forums
[19:01] <jussi> right, Ill tell staff.
[19:01] <Riddell> jussi: mm, interesting
[19:01] <shadeslayer> ok
[19:01] <claydoh> shadeslayer: imo a bit too much focus on a very very minor thing 
[19:01] <claydoh> but much appreciated, jussi and Riddell
[19:02] <shadeslayer> claydoh: heh, yeah, like I said, my questions were not meant to block anything, just curious about what's happening
[19:04] <claydoh> shadeslayer: I know, let's just say we at kubuntuforums shy away from bureaucracy no matter how small or friendly ;)
[19:05] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:05] <claydoh> which has its positives and negatives
[19:06] <Riddell> !newversion calligra 2.4.3
[19:06] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion calligra 2.4.3
[19:07] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1018071
[19:07] <Riddell> nice :)
[21:56] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1010173] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: conffile './etc/xdg/Troll... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1010173 (by lacpsam89)
[23:59] <JontheEchidna> dohoho, a build-dep on libqapt-dev was added whilst I was away fishing on vacation? /me checks it out :>