[03:01] i read that lubuntu is the lightest ubuntu out there so i installed it.. and it is much faster and responsive than ubuntu but im not seeing what it is that im missing out on === bash is now known as superuser [03:02] Lubuntu attracts different people than Ubuntu. Ubuntu is a little more flashy, and *may* be a little easier to configure. [03:04] well im verry attracted to it seing as since ubuntu 8 my old pc is just unreasonably slow running it and its now obsolete [03:05] first i heard about xubuntu and its even clunky on my computer [03:06] i have some questions if any one has some answers [03:06] I may, or someone else here may also. [03:07] ok when i go to login it gives me options for the session.. netbook, lxde and lubuntu, whats the diffrences between these? [03:09] ive knoticed the netbook option is diffrent [03:09] Netbook was a trial interface, not sure how well it worked, LXDE and Lubuntu I don't personally remember, but if I'm right, LXDE doesn't have the theme and look of Lubuntu. [03:10] so its purely interface? not a diffrence in performance or sofware? [03:10] Nope. [03:10] is lxde the fastest? [03:11] im asumeing so because theres no theme [03:11] Might be a little, but there is still a theme, be it basic. [03:11] I wouldn't think there'd be enough of one. [03:16] unit193: thanks for the help im out [03:16] Sure, have a nice one. [03:16] unit193: yeah you too [05:18] Hi, I installed xbmcbuntu on my machine. Sadly I did something that is making it stop on "Checking for running unattached-upgrades" [05:19] What I did was try to install fglrx drivers, however I ended up with nvidia drivers [05:34] can anyone help me please? I am able to get into lubuntu with no gui [05:34] when I type startx I get no screens found [05:35] Mobil, what graphic card do you have? [05:36] I have a E-350 APU (has an amd 6300) I believe [05:36] was lubuntu worked before normally or? [05:37] ya it was working amazingly well, it's very light and fast and works great with xbmc [05:37] Something odd happend though, I tried updating the fglrx drivers and I ended up with nvidia window screen [05:37] Mobil, did you tried to upgrade fglrx (ati proprietary driver) [05:37] aah [05:38] because I was trying to solve a playback issue with xbmc [05:38] Mobil, give me the output of this command from terminal: fglrxinfo [05:39] fglrxinfo: command not found [05:39] ??? [05:39] Mobil, yes exactly that tells you that your drivers didn`t install [05:39] I'm putty'd into the machine [05:39] nice [05:40] sec [05:40] i tried installing the driver - apt-get install fglrx [05:40] it says it's gonna install [05:40] but it doesnt I guess? [05:40] no wait [05:40] you have to cleanup the mess 1st [05:41] ok [05:41] 1st step to try: sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh [05:41] sh: Can't open /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh [05:42] nice then you need only this: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev* [05:42] After this operation, 82.0 MB disk space will be freed. [05:42] I've seen this before [05:42] I put Y [05:42] it`s on we need to uninstall old drivers [05:42] *ok [05:42] look at this : pdate-alternatives: warning: skip creation of /usr/lib32/libvdpau_nvidia.so because associated file /usr/lib32/nvidia-current/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so (of link [05:43] why is it talking about nvidia ? [05:43] I'm gonna pastebin the output [05:44] I know nvidia is everywhare but don`t worry [05:45] http://pastebin.com/KJ4Rimf7 [05:45] leave that for now as we need just to give your system the proper drivers then ubuntu will take care of rest [05:45] ok [05:45] tell me when removal process ends [05:46] it's done [05:46] ok sec [05:46] I put up the pastebin if you'd like to read it [05:46] just to make sure i'm doing everything right... [05:46] is your 6300 hd series [05:46] ? [05:47] yes sir [05:47] well [05:48] ah sorry I see E-350 APU :) [05:48] yeah it should be 6300 [05:48] I'd like to add that I added this ppa:wsnipex/xbmc-xvba-eden [05:48] so I can update xbmc [05:48] tell me what returns when you type: uname -a [05:48] would that mess up the install ? [05:49] Mobil, one step after one please [05:49] Linux media-server 3.0.0-21-generic-pae #35-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 25 18:17:24 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [05:49] ok thnx [05:50] we are going to install drivers now [05:50] yes sir [05:51] in terminal type this: wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run [05:52] 20 seconds [05:52] np [05:52] ok done [05:53] now this: chmod +x drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run [05:53] then: sh ./drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run [05:54] I'm guessing drivers/linux gets replaced by whatever dir file is saved at? [05:55] just leave defaults [05:55] "chmod: cannot access `drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run': No such file or directory" [05:56] try it with sudo [05:56] same output [05:57] The file is saved in my home folder [05:58] yes it should be that way [05:58] ok let me try doing it again [05:58] ok (you don`t need to download it again) [05:59] then: sh ./amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run [05:59] (it was my error) [05:59] I could just do chmod +x amd.... no? [06:00] yes with chmod +x you make downloaded file executable [06:00] ok so let me try chmod +x amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run [06:00] and then run it with with sh./ [06:00] ok it's running [06:00] ;) [06:02] now after installation it is very important that you run: sudo aticonfig --initial-f (if it complains then just): sudo aticonfig --initial [06:02] ok now blue screen (install driver xxxx or generate Distro specific driver package) ? [06:02] I think it is better to install [06:03] but you can try to generate deb packages if you wish [06:03] it should be same [06:03] So I got the installer complaining that a previous install of fglrx driver has been detected. [06:03] if you generate deb packages install them with: sudo dpkg -i fglrx* [06:04] and that If I wanted to force an install i have to run --force, but it's not recommanded [06:04] Mobil, then try it again but this time let it generate deb packages [06:04] ok [06:04] dpkg will sort thing out for you [06:05] it will take some time [06:05] to generate dpkg but be patient [06:05] Where should I put the installation path? [06:06] in a same dir (home dir) [06:06] for debs [06:06] hello [06:07] so I should point the install path to /home/userame/? [06:07] freedomrun, I know I'm asking stupid questions, but I really don't want to fubar it :) [06:08] Mobil, yes /home/user [06:08] hi mi3 [06:09] hey freedomrun from whom are you running ? lol. [06:09] mi3, ? === jalcine is now known as Jacky [06:09] nothing hehe [06:09] freedomrun, I'm choosing "Build package for detected OS [06:09] mi3, ah :) [06:10] Mobil, yes [06:10] deb for ubuntu [06:12] .... I got a "There was errors during installation. Details can be found in /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log" I nano'd there and I got an empty file [06:13] mi3, sorry I didn`t get it at 1st .. but hey I can tell you my nich is based on getting away from windows and linux kernel at it`s core is made cuz of freedom (of code, of choice etc..) so .. there it is :) [06:13] freedomrun: LOL! I hate windows ! [06:13] * mi3 handshakes freedomrun . [06:13] Mobil, if you type "ls" at your home dir are there any fglrx*.deb files (it should be 3 of them there) [06:14] mi3, :) [06:14] freedomrun, no there isnt :( [06:15] should I run this maybe in root? [06:15] no [06:15] hmm [06:15] Mobil, thid you choose that installer generate packages for ubuntu or for detected os? [06:16] freedomrun: can I get a screenshot of your font settings, incase you are using the default fonts ? [06:16] freedomrun, I have 3 options : RedHat Packages, SuSE Packages, Detected OS: Ubuntu/oneiric [06:17] mi3, yes: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/108057971/Screenshot%20from%202012-06-20%2019%3A23%3A23.png [06:17] Mobil, chose manualy for ubuntu [06:18] * freedomrun asks who knows what amd detects hmm [06:18] freedomrun: the screenshot is not proper, sir. [06:18] freedomrun, I chose the 3rd option, which then complains about some error that it supposedly logged in fglrx-install.log [06:18] mi3, no? oh try to open attachment at the bottom of bug report here then: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1015712 [06:18] Launchpad bug 1015712 in unity "unity double application menus" [Undecided,New] [06:19] Mobil, hmm on what system are you now? [06:20] Windows 7, putty'd into the linux box [06:20] too bad [06:20] hmm [06:20] I can go to machine [06:20] I know [06:20] it is the same [06:20] freedomrun: that screenshot is not convenient at all, sir, can you give your a your font window's screenshot ? [06:20] as ssh [06:21] freedomrun: ?? [06:22] mi3, at that screenshot you can see how my screen renders it I am using default fonts as they came with install as I like them most all others don`t render very well on my screen [06:23] Mobil, what is your: sudo dkms status [06:23] freedomrun: means you cant take full screenshots ? [06:24] crystalhd, 0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19, 3.0.0-16-generic, i686: installed [06:24] crystalhd, 0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19, 3.0.0-21-generic-pae, i686: installed [06:24] nvidia-current, 280.13, 3.0.0-21-generic-pae, i686: installed [06:24] Mobil, ?! [06:24] freedomrun, I don't even know man [06:25] Mobil, how much graphic cards u have there .. ? [06:25] freedomrun, One [06:26] freedomrun, unless...It's not possible lubuntu is picking up my nvidia card from my windows 7 machine through..putty? [06:26] lol wut [06:27] that does not make sense haha [06:27] Mobil, nah .. do this for the sake of clarity: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current nvidia-settings [06:28] "After this operation, 94.9 MB disk space will be freed."... [06:28] nice [06:28] I never installed nvidia drivers [06:28] xbmc did [06:29] at least the one I got from this "Trusted source" [06:29] strange indeed [06:29] ok it's done. [06:29] crystalhd, 0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19, 3.0.0-16-generic, i686: installed [06:29] crystalhd, 0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19, 3.0.0-21-generic-pae, i686: installed [06:29] Now no Nvidia [06:30] Mobil, I see this is not ubuntu 12.04 .. hmm let me check something [06:30] it's 11.10 [06:30] (I think) and it's Lubuntu 11.10 [06:32] lets try again: sh ./amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run [06:32] ok [06:32] sudo sh? [06:32] yes [06:33] so Build? [06:33] or just try installing straight first? [06:33] try to build debs for ubuntu specific [06:34] failed [06:34] Did he try "Additional Drivers" ? I may have missed that though. [06:35] Unit193, How do you do that from terminal? [06:36] jockey-text, not as easy, but functional. [06:36] Unit193, Trust me, I'm not..I just got no gui [06:37] Mobil, did you select packages for ubuntu using space button? [06:37] freedomrun, yes sir, I pressed the down arrow to highlight the 3rd option then pressed space to get the little X [06:38] hmm [06:39] Mobil, Unit193 is right [06:39] freedomrun, ? [06:39] now when you have clean system you can install from repositories [06:40] just to get you working X on your system [06:40] soo...try sudo apt-get install fglrx? [06:40] Mobil, before that [06:40] try this [06:40] Should I just remove xbmc and the funny pcc or ppc that comes along with it? [06:41] sudo rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:41] that deletes your current X configuration [06:41] ok done [06:42] try to reboot system [06:42] maybe you can get opensource drivers to work at least you won`t depend on ssh only [06:42] funny..my samba and sab are working fine lol [06:44] oh holy sh!t [06:44] I got a desktop??? [06:44] ;) [06:44] what the..we didn't isntall any drivers [06:45] I`ll have to go but at least for now you have an opensource driver working, maybe someone here wakes up till then... regards Mobil [06:46] freedomrun, thanks a lot man [06:46] Mobil, np [06:46] freedomrun, Can I try to install the drivers? if I mess up I can just do all what we did and delete xorg? [06:46] haha [06:46] Mobil, you can but also remove purge all before [06:47] gtg === TheDrums_ is now known as TheDrums [09:13] hi guys [09:13] how can i manually configure DNS? [09:15] Yep, but it's a bit different in 12.04. [09:15] !resolvconf [09:15] resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ [09:17] i just want to changse DN server =) [09:18] You can either change it GUI style with the applet on the panel, or using that method. [09:19] My screeen is playing up again [09:20] i tried to change DNS with that GUI applet [09:20] It is setting the screen in the wrong(a horrible) resolutioin and only offers some others even more horrible resolutions, instead of the resolutions it would display normally. [09:20] also I seem to get 'load detected on head A ' when that happens [09:21] Did you look through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution ? [09:22] i got this last time and when I forced it the lubuntu session wouldnt start at all until I had it set in openbox to 1024'768' again(which isnt the right resolution but at least it displayed stuff [09:24] and then it would display the right options again in monitor settings so I'd just change manually to that one [09:25] xrandr can show you what you have as options. [09:26] yea great use to me [09:27] http://pastebin.com/J4cHrYcC [09:31] demsg keeps saying when ever I do sth like this that'load detected on head A' [09:32] As seen in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=624553 ? [09:32] Debian bug 624553 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: Monitor is not detected by driver: no EDID information is retrived" [Normal,Open] [09:36] whats edid information [09:43] http://pastebin.com/BbTy77PB [10:12] can I get some suggestions on how to make terminator default in lxde ? [10:15] you mean for keyboard shortcuts? [10:15] and sup mi3 [10:16] hey kanliot ! [10:16] yeah, for shortcuts. [10:16] i really donno [10:16] ... [10:16] ok [10:16] but i've edited the openbox config file [10:17] and ? [10:17] you can change it there [10:17] what happened after you changed the config file, dude ? [10:17] search for "C-A-T" [10:17] and then do openbox --reconfigure [10:17] what ? [10:18] I am on arch, man [10:18] arch linux [10:18] lol [10:18] LOL! [10:18] * kanliot facepalms [10:18] its hard hehe [10:18] e e e e e [10:18] but its worth it :D [10:18] there's still an openbox config file [10:18] it's in there [10:19] whats the path to it ? [10:19] ~/.config/openbox i think [10:19] ok, wait [10:20] what is the name of the file ? [10:21] archyarchyarcharch.xml [10:21] ... [10:21] what ? [10:21] i'm kiddin [10:21] I know, right ? [10:21] you want me to google it for you [10:22] :( [10:22] I will do it myself then! [10:22] :) [10:29] ...This isn't support for arch. [11:42] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010849 [11:54] ' [11:56] Hi Kanliot , I have got this resolution issue , do you have any idea how to solve it? [11:57] i can only guess [11:57] ok guess [11:57] was it IBM chipset? [11:58] for graphics? [11:58] yeah [11:59] it is nvidia geforce 2 [11:59] so a desktop? [11:59] and a monitor? [11:59] yes [11:59] were you having trouble installing drviers? [11:59] i post3ed a link to a forum post just above [12:00] just appeared all of a sardine [12:01] normally it used to have the normal 1152*864 [12:01] the highest it gets now is 1024*768 [12:01] but didn't you try messing with drivers for a while? [12:01] and a horrible refreshing rate [12:01] or was that someone else? [12:01] i didnt change any driver [12:02] i have just got the default nouveau [12:03] every time i do something on the resolution though it gives the message(in dmesg) ''load detected on head A' [12:04] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=262701 [12:04] i found that [12:04] but really i'm guessing [12:04] i've managed to fix stuff [12:04] but only because i'm lucky [12:08] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11717380&postcount=3 [12:08] this is interesting [12:08] you might try the livecd see if it starts working [12:09] i only have a 11.10 live cd [12:09] (or was it 11.04?) [12:10] also i don't have a nvidia driver(proprietary) as it is too old [12:12] did you try to add 1153*864 to your xorg.conf? [12:15] wait [12:16] can you paste output of xrandr [12:16] and look to see if it lists VGA [12:16] \or something else like VGA1 or CRT [12:23] i only have a xorg.conf.failsafe but I havent seen a xorg.conf file - but the xandr lists this Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096 [12:23] VGA-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm [12:23] 1024x768 60.0* [12:23] 800x600 60.3 56.2 [12:23] 848x480 60.0 [12:23] 640x480 59.9 [12:23] TV-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) [12:23] which isnt the normal set up === morrii is now known as morri [12:29] replace xorg output=vga ... with xrandr output=vga-1 (caps) [12:38] cu later mori [12:39] see you [12:39] hello. I played around with a lubuntu-desktop on a 4GB eeepc. It works cool, I was thinking if there was a way to slim it down, I was left with 180MB of free space on disk. [12:40] The needs are: connect to wifi, fire up a web browser, and play a youtube video with sound. [12:40] there is a limited install I thino [12:40] everything else is optional. [12:40] have a look on the lubuntu site for a specific small install [12:40] e.g. if I install lubuntu-desktop when skiping recommends? [12:41] * automaciej looks at the wiki [12:42] hmm [12:42] yo guys! [12:44] are yiou looking for arch support again? [12:52] no [13:20] Hey [13:20] hi [13:21] I just installed a Lubuntu on a somewhat old pc [13:22] problem is, kernel modesetting won't work, and grub doesn't seem to have an appropriate graphic driver either (i think?) [13:22] Xorg works fine though [13:22] apparently this thing runs a Nvidia Quadro4, and i'm using nouveau drivers [13:22] sounds newer than mine .. [13:23] is there some special steps to get grub to recognize vga output correctly? [13:23] how does your grub look like? [13:24] well [13:24] the thing is [13:24] it doesn't look like :p [13:24] but depending on the value i set for timeout in the conf, Lubuntu will take longer to boot [13:25] so my guess is the video output isn't working [13:25] only in grub or also at the splsh? [13:25] nope, splash works good [13:26] xorg too [13:26] what does the dmesg have to say on that? [13:26] but modesetting won't work though, and i get kernel errors about drm not working [13:26] oh lol i knew i forgot to check something [13:30] [ 130.971116] [drm:drm_crtc_helper_set_config] *ERROR* failed to set mode on [CRTC:6] [13:30] [ 130.971122] detected fb_set_par error, error code: -22 [13:31] nothing else seems weird [13:31] i don't quite get it [13:31] mayb ask the guys at #grub [13:32] although that is a bit late for grub 130? [13:32] is there a grub log somewhere? [13:33] don't know - but maybe the #grub peepsknow [13:34] well thanks, i'll ask them :p [13:41] morri: maybe my grub conf is just wrong. is lubuntu supposed to give you a grub prompt with default settings? [13:41] well mine does [13:41] :| [13:42] I think there was a short cut for if it doesnt go directly to grub [13:42] like if you by default don't go to grub, you can still go to grub by using the short cut [13:44] oh [13:44] so you think grub doesn't actually fire up at all? [13:45] I had that in ubuntu by default [13:45] it just skips grub (iot is there but doesnt show it) [13:45] as to boot faster if you always go on the same default [13:46] oh o_O [13:49] what does your grub lst say? [13:53] lst ? isn't the grub.cfg auto-genned by /etc/grub.d ? [13:53] & update-grub [13:54] /etc/default [13:54] ydea that must have been a ubuntu specific siote.. [13:55] ok that site is for 5.10 xD [13:55] /etc/default/grub ? what part ? [13:58] hm so yours doesnt say hide or anything like that huh [14:00] i poked around with random options, and now i have debian's grub theme splash showing up [14:00] but no menu [14:00] so yeah, it actually selects the default [14:04] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Hidden [15:14] bye :) === Mkaysi_ is now known as Mkaysi [15:55] http://pastebin.com/2rpMFGcH [16:38] hi [16:39] hi [16:50]