[03:01] <bash> i read that lubuntu is the lightest ubuntu out there so i installed it.. and it is much faster and responsive than ubuntu but im not seeing what it is that im missing out on
[03:02] <Unit193> Lubuntu attracts different people than Ubuntu.  Ubuntu is a little more flashy, and *may* be a little easier to configure.
[03:04] <superuser> well im verry attracted to it seing as since ubuntu 8 my old pc is just unreasonably slow running it and its now obsolete
[03:05] <superuser> first i heard about xubuntu and its even clunky on my computer
[03:06] <superuser> i have some questions if any one has some answers
[03:06] <Unit193> I may, or someone else here may also.
[03:07] <superuser> ok when i go to login it gives me options for the session.. netbook, lxde and lubuntu, whats the diffrences between these?
[03:09] <superuser> ive knoticed the netbook option is diffrent
[03:09] <Unit193> Netbook was a trial interface, not sure how well it worked, LXDE and Lubuntu I don't personally remember, but if I'm right, LXDE doesn't have the theme and look of Lubuntu.
[03:10] <superuser> so its purely interface? not a diffrence in performance or sofware?
[03:10] <Unit193> Nope.
[03:10] <superuser> is lxde the fastest?
[03:11] <superuser> im asumeing so because theres no theme
[03:11] <Unit193> Might be a little, but there is still a theme, be it basic.
[03:11] <Unit193> I wouldn't think there'd be enough of one.
[03:16] <superuser> unit193: thanks for the help im out
[03:16] <Unit193> Sure, have a nice one.
[03:16] <superuser> unit193: yeah you too
[05:18] <Mobil> Hi, I installed xbmcbuntu on my machine. Sadly I did something that is making it stop on "Checking for running unattached-upgrades"
[05:19] <Mobil> What I did was try to install fglrx drivers, however I ended up with nvidia drivers
[05:34] <Mobil> can anyone help me please? I am able to get into lubuntu with no gui
[05:34] <Mobil> when I type startx I get no screens found
[05:35] <freedomrun> Mobil, what graphic card do you have?
[05:36] <Mobil> I have a E-350 APU (has an amd 6300) I believe
[05:36] <freedomrun> was lubuntu worked before normally or?
[05:37] <Mobil> ya it was working amazingly well, it's very light and fast and works great with xbmc
[05:37] <Mobil> Something odd happend though, I tried updating the fglrx drivers and I ended up with nvidia window screen
[05:37] <freedomrun> Mobil, did you tried to upgrade fglrx (ati proprietary driver)
[05:37] <freedomrun> aah
[05:38] <Mobil> because I was trying to solve a playback issue with xbmc
[05:38] <freedomrun> Mobil, give me the output of this command from terminal: fglrxinfo
[05:39] <Mobil> fglrxinfo: command not found
[05:39] <Mobil> ???
[05:39] <freedomrun> Mobil, yes exactly that tells you that your drivers didn`t install
[05:39] <Mobil> I'm putty'd into the machine
[05:39] <freedomrun> nice
[05:40] <freedomrun> sec
[05:40] <Mobil> i tried installing the driver - apt-get install fglrx
[05:40] <Mobil> it says it's gonna install
[05:40] <Mobil> but it doesnt I guess?
[05:40] <freedomrun> no wait
[05:40] <freedomrun> you have to cleanup the mess 1st
[05:41] <Mobil> ok
[05:41] <freedomrun> 1st step to try: sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[05:41] <Mobil> sh: Can't open /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[05:42] <freedomrun> nice then you need only this: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev*
[05:42] <Mobil> After this operation, 82.0 MB disk space will be freed.
[05:42] <Mobil> I've seen this before
[05:42] <Mobil> I put Y
[05:42] <freedomrun> it`s on we need to uninstall old drivers
[05:42] <freedomrun> *ok
[05:42] <Mobil>  look at this : pdate-alternatives: warning: skip creation of /usr/lib32/libvdpau_nvidia.so because associated file /usr/lib32/nvidia-current/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so (of link
[05:43] <Mobil> why is it talking about nvidia ?
[05:43] <Mobil> I'm gonna pastebin the output
[05:44] <freedomrun> I know nvidia is everywhare but don`t worry
[05:45] <Mobil> http://pastebin.com/KJ4Rimf7
[05:45] <freedomrun> leave that for now as we need just to give your system the proper drivers then ubuntu will take care of rest
[05:45] <Mobil> ok
[05:45] <freedomrun> tell me when removal process ends
[05:46] <Mobil> it's done
[05:46] <freedomrun> ok sec
[05:46] <Mobil> I put up the pastebin if you'd like to read it
[05:46] <Mobil> just to make sure i'm doing everything right...
[05:46] <freedomrun> is your 6300 hd series
[05:46] <freedomrun> ?
[05:47] <Mobil> yes sir
[05:47] <Mobil> well
[05:48] <freedomrun> ah sorry I see E-350 APU :)
[05:48] <Mobil> yeah it should be 6300
[05:48] <Mobil> I'd like to add that I added this ppa:wsnipex/xbmc-xvba-eden
[05:48] <Mobil> so I can update xbmc
[05:48] <freedomrun> tell me what returns when you type: uname -a
[05:48] <Mobil> would that mess up the install ?
[05:49] <freedomrun> Mobil, one step after one please
[05:49] <Mobil> Linux media-server 3.0.0-21-generic-pae #35-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 25 18:17:24 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[05:49] <freedomrun> ok thnx
[05:50] <freedomrun> we are going to install drivers now
[05:50] <Mobil> yes sir
[05:51] <freedomrun> in terminal type this: wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run
[05:52] <Mobil> 20 seconds
[05:52] <freedomrun> np
[05:52] <Mobil> ok done
[05:53] <freedomrun> now this: chmod +x drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run
[05:53] <freedomrun> then: sh ./drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run
[05:54] <Mobil> I'm guessing drivers/linux gets replaced by whatever dir file is saved at?
[05:55] <freedomrun> just leave defaults
[05:55] <Mobil> "chmod: cannot access `drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run': No such file or directory"
[05:56] <freedomrun> try it with sudo
[05:56] <Mobil> same output
[05:57] <Mobil> The file is saved in my home folder
[05:58] <freedomrun> yes it should be that way
[05:58] <Mobil> ok let me try doing it again
[05:58] <freedomrun> ok (you don`t need to download it again)
[05:59] <freedomrun> then: sh ./amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run
[05:59] <freedomrun> (it was my error)
[05:59] <Mobil> I could just do chmod +x amd.... no?
[06:00] <freedomrun> yes with chmod +x you make downloaded file executable
[06:00] <Mobil> ok so let me try chmod +x amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run
[06:00] <freedomrun> and then run it with with sh./
[06:00] <Mobil> ok it's running
[06:00] <freedomrun> ;)
[06:02] <freedomrun> now after installation it is very important that you run: sudo aticonfig --initial-f (if it complains then just): sudo aticonfig --initial
[06:02] <Mobil> ok now blue screen (install driver xxxx or generate Distro specific driver package) ?
[06:02] <freedomrun> I think it is better to install
[06:03] <freedomrun> but you can try to generate deb packages if you wish
[06:03] <freedomrun> it should be same
[06:03] <Mobil> So I got the installer complaining that a previous install of fglrx driver has been detected.
[06:03] <freedomrun> if you generate deb packages install them with: sudo dpkg -i fglrx*
[06:04] <Mobil> and that If I wanted to force an install i have to run --force, but it's not recommanded
[06:04] <freedomrun> Mobil, then try it again but this time let it generate deb packages
[06:04] <Mobil> ok
[06:04] <freedomrun> dpkg will sort thing out for you
[06:05] <freedomrun> it will take some time
[06:05] <freedomrun> to generate dpkg but be patient
[06:05] <Mobil> Where should I put the installation path?
[06:06] <freedomrun> in a same dir (home dir)
[06:06] <freedomrun> for debs
[06:06] <mi3> hello
[06:07] <Mobil> so I should point the install path to /home/userame/?
[06:07] <Mobil> freedomrun, I know I'm asking stupid questions, but I really don't want to fubar it :)
[06:08] <freedomrun> Mobil, yes /home/user
[06:08] <freedomrun> hi mi3
[06:09] <mi3> hey freedomrun from whom are you running ? lol.
[06:09] <freedomrun> mi3, ?
[06:09] <mi3> nothing hehe
[06:09] <Mobil> freedomrun, I'm choosing "Build package for detected OS
[06:09] <freedomrun> mi3, ah :)
[06:10] <freedomrun> Mobil, yes
[06:10] <freedomrun> deb for ubuntu
[06:12] <Mobil> .... I got a "There was errors during installation. Details can be found in /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log" I nano'd there and I got an empty file
[06:13] <freedomrun> mi3, sorry I didn`t get it at 1st .. but hey I can tell you my nich is based on getting away from windows and linux kernel at it`s core is made cuz of freedom (of code, of choice etc..) so .. there it is :)
[06:13] <mi3> freedomrun: LOL! I hate windows !
[06:13]  * mi3 handshakes freedomrun .
[06:13] <freedomrun> Mobil, if you type "ls" at your home dir are there any fglrx*.deb files (it should be 3 of them there)
[06:14] <freedomrun> mi3, :)
[06:14] <Mobil> freedomrun, no there isnt :(
[06:15] <Mobil> should I run this maybe in root?
[06:15] <freedomrun> no
[06:15] <freedomrun> hmm
[06:15] <freedomrun> Mobil, thid you choose that installer generate packages for ubuntu or for detected os?
[06:16] <mi3> freedomrun: can I get a screenshot of your font settings, incase you are using the default fonts ?
[06:16] <Mobil> freedomrun, I have 3 options : RedHat Packages, SuSE Packages, Detected OS: Ubuntu/oneiric
[06:17] <freedomrun> mi3, yes: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/108057971/Screenshot%20from%202012-06-20%2019%3A23%3A23.png
[06:17] <freedomrun> Mobil, chose manualy for ubuntu
[06:18]  * freedomrun asks who knows what amd detects hmm
[06:18] <mi3> freedomrun: the screenshot is not proper, sir.
[06:18] <Mobil> freedomrun, I chose the 3rd option, which then complains about some error that it supposedly logged in fglrx-install.log
[06:18] <freedomrun> mi3, no? oh try to open attachment at the bottom of bug report here then: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1015712
[06:19] <freedomrun> Mobil, hmm on what system are you now?
[06:20] <Mobil> Windows 7, putty'd into the linux box
[06:20] <freedomrun> too bad
[06:20] <freedomrun> hmm
[06:20] <Mobil> I can go to machine
[06:20] <freedomrun> I know
[06:20] <freedomrun> it is the same
[06:20] <mi3> freedomrun: that screenshot is not convenient at all, sir, can you give your a your font window's screenshot ?
[06:20] <freedomrun> as ssh
[06:21] <mi3> freedomrun: ??
[06:22] <freedomrun> mi3, at that screenshot you can see how my screen renders it I am using default fonts as they came with install as I like them most all others don`t render very well on my screen
[06:23] <freedomrun> Mobil, what is your: sudo dkms status
[06:23] <mi3> freedomrun: means you cant take full screenshots ?
[06:24] <Mobil> crystalhd, 0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19, 3.0.0-16-generic, i686: installed
[06:24] <Mobil> crystalhd, 0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19, 3.0.0-21-generic-pae, i686: installed
[06:24] <Mobil> nvidia-current, 280.13, 3.0.0-21-generic-pae, i686: installed
[06:24] <freedomrun> Mobil, ?!
[06:24] <Mobil> freedomrun, I don't even know man
[06:25] <freedomrun> Mobil, how much graphic cards u have there .. ?
[06:25] <Mobil> freedomrun, One
[06:26] <Mobil> freedomrun, unless...It's not possible lubuntu is picking up my nvidia card from my windows 7 machine through..putty?
[06:26] <Mobil> lol wut
[06:27] <Mobil> that does not make sense haha
[06:27] <freedomrun> Mobil, nah .. do this for the sake of clarity: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[06:28] <Mobil> "After this operation, 94.9 MB disk space will be freed."...
[06:28] <freedomrun> nice
[06:28] <Mobil> I never installed nvidia drivers
[06:28] <Mobil> xbmc did
[06:29] <Mobil> at least the one I got from this "Trusted source"
[06:29] <freedomrun> strange indeed
[06:29] <Mobil> ok it's done.
[06:29] <Mobil> crystalhd, 0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19, 3.0.0-16-generic, i686: installed
[06:29] <Mobil> crystalhd, 0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19, 3.0.0-21-generic-pae, i686: installed
[06:29] <Mobil> Now no Nvidia
[06:30] <freedomrun> Mobil, I see this is not ubuntu 12.04 .. hmm let me check something
[06:30] <Mobil> it's 11.10
[06:30] <Mobil> (I think) and it's Lubuntu 11.10
[06:32] <freedomrun> lets try again: sh ./amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run
[06:32] <Mobil> ok
[06:32] <Mobil> sudo sh?
[06:32] <freedomrun> yes
[06:33] <Mobil> so Build?
[06:33] <Mobil> or just try installing straight first?
[06:33] <freedomrun> try to build debs for ubuntu specific
[06:34] <Mobil> failed
[06:34] <Unit193> Did he try "Additional Drivers" ?  I may have missed that though.
[06:35] <Mobil> Unit193, How do you do that from terminal?
[06:36] <Unit193> jockey-text, not as easy, but functional.
[06:36] <Mobil> Unit193, Trust me, I'm not..I just got no gui
[06:37] <freedomrun> Mobil, did you select packages for ubuntu using space button?
[06:37] <Mobil> freedomrun, yes sir, I pressed the down arrow to highlight the 3rd option then pressed space to get the little X
[06:38] <freedomrun> hmm
[06:39] <freedomrun> Mobil, Unit193 is right
[06:39] <Mobil> freedomrun, ?
[06:39] <freedomrun> now when you have clean system you can install from repositories
[06:40] <freedomrun> just to get you working X on your system
[06:40] <Mobil> soo...try sudo apt-get install fglrx?
[06:40] <freedomrun> Mobil, before that
[06:40] <freedomrun> try this
[06:40] <Mobil> Should I just remove xbmc and the funny pcc or ppc that comes along with it?
[06:41] <freedomrun> sudo rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:41] <freedomrun> that deletes your current X configuration
[06:41] <Mobil> ok done
[06:42] <freedomrun> try to reboot system
[06:42] <freedomrun> maybe you can get opensource drivers to work at least you won`t depend on ssh only
[06:42] <Mobil> funny..my samba and sab are working fine lol
[06:44] <Mobil> oh holy sh!t
[06:44] <Mobil> I got a desktop???
[06:44] <freedomrun> ;)
[06:44] <Mobil> what the..we didn't isntall any drivers
[06:45] <freedomrun> I`ll have to go but at least for now you have an opensource driver working, maybe someone here wakes up till then... regards Mobil
[06:46] <Mobil> freedomrun, thanks a lot man
[06:46] <freedomrun> Mobil, np
[06:46] <Mobil> freedomrun, Can I try to install the drivers? if I mess up I can just do all what we did and delete xorg?
[06:46] <Mobil> haha
[06:46] <freedomrun> Mobil, you can but also remove purge all before
[06:47] <freedomrun> gtg
[09:13] <SAKKED> hi guys
[09:13] <SAKKED> how can i manually configure DNS?
[09:15] <Unit193> Yep, but it's a bit different in 12.04.
[09:15] <Unit193> !resolvconf
[09:17] <SAKKED> i just want to changse DN server =)
[09:18] <Unit193> You can either change it GUI style with the applet on the panel, or using that method.
[09:19] <morri> My screeen is playing up again
[09:20] <SAKKED> i tried to change DNS with that GUI applet
[09:20] <morri> It is setting the screen in the wrong(a horrible) resolutioin and only offers some others even more horrible resolutions, instead of the resolutions it would display normally.
[09:20] <morri> also I seem to get 'load detected on head A ' when that happens
[09:21] <Unit193> Did you look through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution ?
[09:22] <morri> i got this last time and when I forced it the lubuntu session wouldnt start at all until I had it set in openbox to 1024'768' again(which isnt the right resolution but at least it displayed stuff
[09:24] <morri> and then it would display the right options again in monitor settings so I'd just change manually to that one
[09:25] <Unit193> xrandr can show you what you have as options.
[09:26] <morri> yea great use to me
[09:27] <morri> http://pastebin.com/J4cHrYcC
[09:31] <morri> demsg keeps saying when ever I do sth like this that'load detected on head A'
[09:32] <Unit193> As seen in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=624553 ?
[09:36] <morri> whats edid information
[09:43] <morri> http://pastebin.com/BbTy77PB
[10:12] <mi3> can I get some suggestions on how to make terminator default in lxde ?
[10:15] <kanliot> you mean for keyboard shortcuts?
[10:15] <kanliot> and sup mi3
[10:16] <mi3> hey kanliot !
[10:16] <mi3> yeah, for shortcuts.
[10:16] <kanliot> i really donno
[10:16] <mi3> ...
[10:16] <mi3> ok
[10:16] <kanliot> but i've edited the openbox config file
[10:17] <mi3> and ?
[10:17] <kanliot> you can change it there
[10:17] <mi3> what happened after you changed the config file, dude ?
[10:17] <kanliot> search for "C-A-T"
[10:17] <kanliot> and then do openbox --reconfigure
[10:17] <mi3> what ?
[10:18] <mi3> I am on arch, man
[10:18] <mi3> arch linux
[10:18] <kanliot> lol
[10:18] <mi3> LOL!
[10:18]  * kanliot facepalms
[10:18] <mi3> its hard hehe
[10:18] <mi3> e e e e e
[10:18] <mi3> but its worth it :D
[10:18] <kanliot> there's still an openbox config file
[10:18] <kanliot> it's in there
[10:19] <mi3> whats the path to it ?
[10:19] <kanliot> ~/.config/openbox i think
[10:19] <mi3> ok, wait
[10:20] <mi3> what is the name of the file ?
[10:21] <kanliot> archyarchyarcharch.xml
[10:21] <mi3> ...
[10:21] <mi3> what ?
[10:21] <kanliot> i'm kiddin
[10:21] <mi3> I know, right ?
[10:21] <kanliot> you want me to google it for you
[10:22] <mi3> :(
[10:22] <mi3> I will do it myself then!
[10:22] <kanliot> :)
[10:29] <Unit193> ...This isn't support for arch.
[11:42] <morri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010849
[11:54] <kanliot> '
[11:56] <morri> Hi Kanliot , I have got this resolution issue , do you have any idea how to solve it?
[11:57] <kanliot> i can only guess
[11:57] <morri> ok guess
[11:57] <kanliot> was it IBM chipset?
[11:58] <morri> for graphics?
[11:58] <kanliot> yeah
[11:59] <morri> it is nvidia geforce 2
[11:59] <kanliot> so a desktop?
[11:59] <kanliot> and a monitor?
[11:59] <morri> yes
[11:59] <kanliot> were you having trouble installing drviers?
[11:59] <morri> i post3ed a link to a forum post just above
[12:00] <morri> just appeared all of a sardine
[12:01] <morri> normally it used to have the normal 1152*864
[12:01] <morri> the highest it gets now is 1024*768
[12:01] <kanliot> but didn't you try messing with drivers for a while?
[12:01] <morri> and a horrible refreshing rate
[12:01] <kanliot> or was that someone else?
[12:01] <morri> i didnt change any driver
[12:02] <morri> i have just got the default nouveau
[12:03] <morri> every time i do something on the resolution though it gives the message(in dmesg) ''load detected on head A'
[12:04] <kanliot> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=262701
[12:04] <kanliot> i found that
[12:04] <kanliot> but really i'm guessing
[12:04] <kanliot> i've managed to fix stuff
[12:04] <kanliot> but only because i'm lucky
[12:08] <kanliot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11717380&postcount=3
[12:08] <kanliot> this is interesting
[12:08] <kanliot> you might try the livecd see if it starts working
[12:09] <morri> i only have a 11.10 live cd
[12:09] <morri> (or was it 11.04?)
[12:10] <morri> also i don't have a nvidia driver(proprietary) as it is too old
[12:12] <kanliot> did you try to add 1153*864 to your xorg.conf?
[12:15] <kanliot> wait
[12:16] <kanliot> can you paste output of xrandr
[12:16] <kanliot> and look to see if it lists VGA
[12:16] <kanliot> \or something else like VGA1 or CRT
[12:23] <morrii> i only have a xorg.conf.failsafe but I havent seen a xorg.conf file - but the xandr  lists this Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
[12:23] <morrii> VGA-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[12:23] <morrii>    1024x768       60.0*
[12:23] <morrii>    800x600        60.3     56.2
[12:23] <morrii>    848x480        60.0
[12:23] <morrii>    640x480        59.9
[12:23] <morrii> TV-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[12:23] <morrii> which isnt the normal set up
[12:29] <kanliot> replace xorg output=vga ... with xrandr output=vga-1 (caps)
[12:38] <kanliot> cu later mori
[12:39] <morri> see you
[12:39] <automaciej> hello. I played around with a lubuntu-desktop on a 4GB eeepc. It works cool, I was thinking if there was a way to slim it down, I was left with 180MB of free space on disk.
[12:40] <automaciej> The needs are: connect to wifi, fire up a web browser, and play a youtube video with sound.
[12:40] <morri> there is a limited install I thino
[12:40] <automaciej> everything else is optional.
[12:40] <morri> have a look on the lubuntu site for a specific small install
[12:40] <automaciej> e.g. if I install lubuntu-desktop when skiping recommends?
[12:41]  * automaciej looks at the wiki
[12:42] <mi3> hmm
[12:42] <mi3> yo guys!
[12:44] <morri> are yiou looking for arch support again?
[12:52] <mi3> no
[13:20] <Fira> Hey
[13:20] <morri> hi
[13:21] <Fira> I just installed a Lubuntu on a somewhat old pc
[13:22] <Fira> problem is, kernel modesetting won't work, and grub doesn't seem to have an appropriate graphic driver either (i think?)
[13:22] <Fira> Xorg works fine though
[13:22] <Fira> apparently this thing runs a Nvidia Quadro4, and i'm using nouveau drivers
[13:22] <morri> sounds newer than mine ..
[13:23] <Fira> is there some special steps to get grub to recognize vga output correctly?
[13:23] <morri> how does your grub look like?
[13:24] <Fira> well
[13:24] <Fira> the thing is
[13:24] <Fira> it doesn't look like :p
[13:24] <Fira> but depending on the value i set for timeout in the conf, Lubuntu will take longer to boot
[13:25] <Fira> so my guess is the video output isn't working
[13:25] <morri> only in grub or also at the splsh?
[13:25] <Fira> nope, splash works good
[13:26] <Fira> xorg too
[13:26] <morri> what does the dmesg have to say on that?
[13:26] <Fira> but modesetting won't work though, and i get kernel errors about drm not working
[13:26] <Fira> oh lol i knew i forgot to check something
[13:30] <Fira> [  130.971116] [drm:drm_crtc_helper_set_config] *ERROR* failed to set mode on [CRTC:6]
[13:30] <Fira> [  130.971122] detected fb_set_par error, error code: -22
[13:31] <Fira> nothing else seems weird
[13:31] <Fira> i don't quite get it
[13:31] <morri> mayb ask the guys at #grub
[13:32] <morri> although that is a bit late for grub 130?
[13:32] <Fira> is there a grub log somewhere?
[13:33] <morri> don't know - but maybe the #grub peepsknow
[13:34] <Fira> well thanks, i'll ask them :p
[13:41] <Fira> morri: maybe my grub conf is just wrong. is lubuntu supposed to give you a grub prompt with default settings?
[13:41] <morri> well mine does
[13:41] <Fira> :|
[13:42] <morri> I think there was a short cut for if it doesnt go directly to grub
[13:42] <morri> like if you by default don't go to grub, you can still go to grub by using the short cut
[13:44] <Fira> oh
[13:44] <Fira> so you think grub doesn't actually fire up at all?
[13:45] <morri> I had that in ubuntu by default
[13:45] <morri> it just skips grub (iot is there but doesnt show it)
[13:45] <morri> as to boot faster if you always go on the same default
[13:46] <Fira> oh o_O
[13:49] <morri> what does your grub lst say?
[13:53] <Fira> lst ? isn't the grub.cfg auto-genned by /etc/grub.d ?
[13:53] <Fira> & update-grub
[13:54] <morri> /etc/default
[13:54] <morri> ydea that must have been a ubuntu specific siote..
[13:55] <morri> ok that site is for 5.10 xD
[13:55] <Fira> /etc/default/grub ? what part ?
[13:58] <morri> hm so yours doesnt say hide or anything like that huh
[14:00] <Fira> i poked around with random options, and now i have debian's grub theme splash showing up
[14:00] <Fira> but no menu
[14:00] <Fira> so yeah, it actually selects the default
[14:04] <morri> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Hidden
[15:14] <smile> bye :)
[15:55] <morri> http://pastebin.com/2rpMFGcH
[16:38] <leszek> hi
[16:39] <morri> hi
[16:50] <superuser> is there a way to have easy access to my windows shares in lubunu?
[16:51] <leszek> superuser: smb://<ip-of-your-windows-machine>
[16:51] <leszek> in adressbar of pcmanfm
[16:56] <superuser> ok ill try that
[16:58] <ikonia> superuser: please stop cross-posting your questions in #ubuntu channels
[16:58] <ikonia> you've asked in multiple channels - please stop
[17:00] <superuser> useing the address works
[18:36] <smile> bye :)
[18:57] <zleap> cya smile
[19:31] <rhodes> Lubuntu 12.04 network-manager won't start during boot-up, will start with command < sudo NetworkManager>  Please help!
[19:35] <rhodes> Umm, hello?
[19:35] <wxl> rhodes: is this a new install or an upgrade?
[19:36] <rhodes> upgrade from 11.10
[19:36] <wxl> has it ever worked?
[19:36] <wxl> since you've upgraded?
[19:38] <rhodes> yes, but not after upgrade
[19:38] <wxl> have you checked /var/log/syslog for NetworkManager entries?
[19:39] <wxl> i wonder if it's even trying to load it
[19:40] <rhodes> what should i look for?
[19:40] <wxl> grep NetworkManager
[19:41] <wxl> seems this may be a general canonical problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/151061/after-6-2-12-04-update-need-manual-networkmanager-start
[19:42] <rhodes> ok will try.  btw, during bootup messages displayed "Awaiting betwork\\
[19:42] <rhodes> disregard last
[19:43] <rhodes> will cgo to  url.  thanx bye
[19:43] <wxl> nuttin to see
[19:43] <wxl> except that it's not a lubuntu-specific problem
[19:43] <wxl> oddly though i don't have this same issue
[19:44] <wxl> you on a lenovo laptop?
[19:44] <rhodes> eee netbook
[19:45] <wxl> i have a 1005ha with 12.04 on it, though it was a new install
[19:46] <Italian_Plumber> is there something somewhere that would give the command line apt-get command to switch from regular ubuntu to lubuntu?  It sounds like just uninstalling unity and some other software, and installing lxde
[19:46] <rhodes> original partition before and during upgrade  lvm encrypted
[19:47] <wxl> well i'll say this, Italian_Plumber: my experience is that you don't exactly end up with lubuntu. seems like it, but not exactly.
[19:47] <wxl> despite that, you need to make sure to kill all the fluff
[19:47] <wxl> !purelxde | Italian_Plumber
[19:48] <wxl> you will need lubuntu-core at minimum
[19:48] <wxl> lubuntu-desktop if you want all the apps
[19:48] <Italian_Plumber> ah ok
[19:49] <wxl> or --no-recommends lubuntu-desktop for an intermediate
[19:49] <wxl> i'd personally suggest just installing lubuntu and migrating your /home over
[19:50] <Italian_Plumber> yeah I'm sure that's easier
[19:50] <Italian_Plumber> ok well thanks
[19:51] <wxl> np
[19:52] <rhodes> most of my important stuff is well backed up. perhaps also a clean full install for me also?
[19:52] <wxl> rhodes: well i can't guarantee that's a solution
[19:53] <wxl> there is a bug report that i'd subscribe to and say it affects you
[19:53] <wxl> offer further input
[19:53] <wxl> i'd also hunt around #ubuntu and see if they've had a simialr problem
[19:55] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/663735
[19:56] <rhodes> won't hurt to try new install.  I'll be no worse off.  be back to let you know,  thanks
[19:56] <wxl> looks like the bug report is finally getting activity
[19:56] <rhodes> on launchpad ?
[19:57] <rhodes> Sorry I did not get your bug # before sendin last
[19:57] <wxl> np
[19:58] <wxl> if you wouldn't mind chiming in and saying you have the same experience with lubuntu that would be great
[19:58] <wxl> thanks in advance for making lubuntu better rhodes ;)
[19:59] <wxl> it looks to me like they're on the right track to solving this
[19:59] <rhodes> ok thanks again
[21:23] <putkonen> hello
[21:23] <putkonen> anyone knows how to enable flash on lubuntu's chrome?
[21:25] <Unit193> Enable the partner repo, and install adobe-flashplugin
[21:25] <Unit193> !partner
[21:26] <putkonen> ty