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| qdb | ubuntu s usb creator fixed my problem (could not make quantal flashdrive with unetboootin ) | 06:13 |
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| qdb | liveusb worked, in eeepc, correct display size, wifi works. but installed system shows black screen | 07:37 |
| qdb | liveusb worked, in eeepc, correct display size, wifi works. but installed system shows black screen | 08:08 |
| qdb | liveusb worked, in eeepc, correct display size, wifi works. but installed system shows black screen. what can i do? i know i can enter recovery mode | 08:16 |
| astraljava | qdb: You can look into the relevant logs; dmesg, syslog and Xorg.0.log. | 08:17 |
| qdb | ok thank you | 08:17 |
| qdb | i will look at them later | 08:27 |
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| BluesKaj | hi all | 12:58 |
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| MrChrisDruif | Why does "Software Updater" need my password just to "check" for updates? | 13:40 |
| MrChrisDruif | Btw, good afternoon from Holland | 13:41 |
| Daekdroom | It requires your password just to check for updates the same way apt-get does. | 13:42 |
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| philinux | MrChrisDruif: It doesn't here. It only needs password now if new packages are being installed | 13:42 |
| BluesKaj | MrChrisDruif, apt-get and the software updater all use the dpkg system to updsate/upgrade and it requires user permission | 13:43 |
| philinux | BluesKaj: not now since 11.04 I think | 13:43 |
| philinux | Updater only requests password for new packages | 13:44 |
| MrChrisDruif | Please bare with me, need to wait for said program to finish before I can check stuff | 13:44 |
| philinux | MrChrisDruif: you've not changed any default settings have you | 13:45 |
| BluesKaj | philinux, I've never noticed any permission differences with apt-get in many yrs | 13:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | I might, but afaik not those for checking for updates | 13:45 |
| philinux | BluesKaj: not apt-get in terminal update manager which is now software updater | 13:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | I does check automatically, but I just clicked "Check" and it requested my password | 13:46 |
| philinux | MrChrisDruif: not here and this is a clean alpha install | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | philinux, i don't use update managers ..apt-get is sufficient | 13:46 |
| jbicha | MrChrisDruif: it works here without a a password, are you UID 1000? | 13:46 |
| philinux | BluesKaj: then how do you know how it behaves now | 13:47 |
| MrChrisDruif | BluesKaj; I agree, but it runs automatically, so I don't have to check manually every day | 13:47 |
| MrChrisDruif | (Or set a cron job) | 13:47 |
| philinux | BluesKaj: we are supposed to test guis too | 13:47 |
| BluesKaj | I assume since dpkg needs permissions , the so do update managers | 13:47 |
| BluesKaj | yeah i use muon once in a while , but I have it aliased and pwless with sudoer | 13:48 |
| MrChrisDruif | (It's only going as fast as it can...still waiting for it to finish) | 13:49 |
| philinux | BluesKaj: From the security team https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Update_Manager_doesn.27t_prompt_for_security_updates | 13:49 |
| jbicha | BluesKaj: no, policykit can allow for admin users to do stuff without being root and without needing to enter their password | 13:49 |
| philinux | BluesKaj: much better for user imo | 13:49 |
| MrChrisDruif | apt-get update requires sudo and therefor password indeed | 13:50 |
| philinux | jbicha: any idea why cracklib-runtime and libcrack2 got installed | 13:51 |
| BluesKaj | ok , I didn't see that ... I satnd corrected , but if they want security seems like an odd thing to pass by | 13:51 |
| MrChrisDruif | But I kind of remember "SU" not needing a password just to "Check"/update the repos | 13:51 |
| philinux | BluesKaj: not for an admin user updating already installed software | 13:51 |
| philinux | new policy less intrusive | 13:52 |
| jbicha | philinux: I think those are dependencies of libpwquality, which was pulled in by the latest gnome-disk-utility | 13:52 |
| philinux | jbicha: what do they do? | 13:53 |
| philinux | check for weak passwords I guess but why depend on disks | 13:53 |
| jbicha | I don't know, checks if your password is secure enough? | 13:53 |
| jbicha | libpwquality also will be required by gnome-control-center for the User Password panel | 13:54 |
| philinux | jbicha: Ah ok. That must come into play when setting up new users | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | not all users are admins ..in my case I am but , it doesn't matter much much | 13:55 |
| BluesKaj | much ;) | 13:55 |
| philinux | BluesKaj: Exactly so a non admin user would always get asked for paasword to update | 13:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | Not much more ;-) | 13:56 |
| qdb | hm now i have turned it on, i have forgotten that i should go to recovery mode, and it just started to work | 13:56 |
| philinux | qdb: why recovery | 13:57 |
| qdb | philinux, quantal showed only black screen. i wanted to look logs in recovery mode | 13:59 |
| philinux | qdb: ah so it now works ok? | 14:00 |
| qdb | yes | 14:00 |
| philinux | qdb: the joys of testing, marvellous | 14:00 |
| philinux | qdb: what graphics card are you running | 14:01 |
| qdb | thank you ) it is not mine. owner wanted correct screen resolution, +wifi. and also it wants gnome 2 and he is going to do that himself .. | 14:01 |
| qdb | gma 3600 | 14:01 |
| ikonia | you won't be able to use gnome 2 with 12.10 | 14:03 |
| ikonia | if you are suggesting he will - you need to advise him, he won't | 14:03 |
| philinux | Indeed | 14:04 |
| qdb | i said to him... but i and he were not sure that it is impossible | 14:04 |
| philinux | qdb: you would need to install gnome-panel and then select the correct session at login | 14:05 |
| qdb | gnome panel it sounds good ) | 14:05 |
| philinux | qdb I've not tried it here as I'm happy with unity. I think adding to panel needs a key combo not just right click | 14:06 |
| philinux | qdb: try it | 14:07 |
| qdb | i have updated, restarted, and again black screen | 14:32 |
| qdb | then recocvery - resume norm boo - ok | 14:32 |
| philinux | qdb: did you try gnome-panel | 14:34 |
| BluesKaj | qdb, try the recovery mode , but choose the repair dialog then you'll probly see a partial install wasn't finished updae /upgrade and reboot | 14:35 |
| qdb | not yet , am installing | 14:35 |
| qdb | ok | 14:35 |
| philinux | qdb: post back how it went | 14:36 |
| qdb | what if just update /upgrade now, not from recovery | 14:36 |
| BluesKaj | qdb, it has to do with graphics drivers and X , i've seen it aon several pcs now , X/gdm/kdm cannot be running for the install to finish | 14:37 |
| qdb | i do not see selection of gnome in login | 14:38 |
| BluesKaj | or light-dm | 14:38 |
| philinux | qdb: I quess you already seen this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1953734&highlight=intel+gma | 14:39 |
| qdb | update - command is not found | 14:39 |
| qdb | this is just in terminal | 14:39 |
| philinux | qdb: i'm installing it here to test | 14:40 |
| philinux | qdb: brb | 14:41 |
| qdb | yes i have seen that.. but do not rememeber ) ... | 14:41 |
| qdb | i have made update dist upgrade | 14:42 |
| qdb | i ll try just rebooting | 14:42 |
| BluesKaj | qdb, when I say update/upgrade , I mean sudo apt-get update, then , sudo apt-get upgrade ..since you're testing an alpha OS I assume you know what "update" and "upgrade" mean in the terminal. | 14:42 |
| qdb | yes i have understood | 14:43 |
| qdb | blank screen | 14:43 |
| philinux | qdb: from login screen two options show up Gnome classic and same but no effects | 14:43 |
| qdb | i do not see that options. where they are | 14:44 |
| philinux | qdb: on the login screen the little gear top right of password box | 14:48 |
| qdb | philinux, yes it works ! what key combo to add applets? | 15:39 |
| philinux | qdb: I think it's alt right click | 15:39 |
| philinux | qdb: does that do it | 15:42 |
| qdb | works | 15:42 |
| philinux | qdb: marvellous | 15:47 |
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| qdb | i had seen first and last pages of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1953734&highlight=intel+gma&page=7 . now i look it whole. seems there is no solution for black screen problem | 16:30 |
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| genii-around | Heh, from -kernel: <ricotz> hello, did someone here by mistake uploaded "linux-lts-quantal - 3.5.0-2.2~precise1" to ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa? | 16:36 |
| qdb | desktop is shown only if go to recovery and resume normal boot. also seems after recovery - console - shutdown -r now, i ll test it ... why ? recovery makes something good, then desktop makes something bad, in eeepc, gma3600 videocard | 16:36 |
| qdb | "going to recovery mode, then root console, then "shutdown -r now" makes it restart and grub boot menu appears, without timer. press enter and it also loads normally." | 16:50 |
| ikonia | qdb: why are you using a development version of ubuntu that is very unstable if you don't really know what you are doing in terms of how to manage and fault find ? | 17:00 |
| ikonia | qdb: if you are not confident with fixing issues or debugging them, I'd suggest using the stable 12.04 release | 17:00 |
| qdb | ikonia, this should be reported as bug? | 17:01 |
| ikonia | qdb: that's not what I said | 17:01 |
| qdb | ikonia, this is not for me, this netbook | 17:01 |
| ikonia | again, that is nothing to do with what I said | 17:01 |
| qdb | i think he will live with that bug | 17:02 |
| qdb | he managed to get correct resolution, but wifi did not work. i tried to compile a kernel, but video driver has not worked and internet disappeared. other option is to try debian and compile kernel | 17:03 |
| ikonia | qdb: if you are not confident resolving issues I suggest you use 12.04 | 17:03 |
| * genii-around makes more coffee | 17:04 | |
| qdb | ikonia, i have read kernel compiling manual in ubuntu site, it was not very well... i compiled quantal kernel from git for 10.10 | 17:06 |
| ikonia | that has nothing to do with what I said | 17:06 |
| qdb | ok but owner wants video driver, wifi, gnome 2. and he partially made it. i think if he wants that so much, he will use quantal | 17:07 |
| ikonia | sorry but that sounds like one of the most pointless and silly things to do | 17:07 |
| ikonia | please don't ask for support with that in here | 17:07 |
| ikonia | gnome 2 is dead and not available | 17:07 |
| qdb | but he is not used to use english sites | 17:07 |
| ikonia | quantal is unstable and in heavy development | 17:07 |
| qdb | gnome-panel looks quite like gnome 2 for me ) | 17:08 |
| qdb | that person already used alpha releases | 17:12 |
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| blackout | has anyone got a clue why there are the linux headers and image file in the repos but no kernel? 3.5.0.2.2 | 20:19 |
| Pici | blackout: looks like it was dropped into proposed for some reason. | 20:20 |
| blackout | I have to thank all ubuntu contributors, quantal is really fixed fast and is now really worth to be used @ the moment | 20:26 |
| MrChrisDruif | I guess "extra panes" is what is used for split-pane view in nautilus? | 20:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | Does anyone know if split-pane view is removed only in Ubuntu or in all of GNOME? | 21:11 |
| arand | MrChrisDruif: It's a GNOME change if you refer to it being delegated to the temporary extra pane toggle. | 21:14 |
| MrChrisDruif | The F3 which duplicated the current directory and made it (for me) easier to manage my files | 21:15 |
| MrChrisDruif | F3 option* | 21:15 |
| MrChrisDruif | It was called Split-pane view because that was what it did ^_^ | 21:15 |
| MrChrisDruif | A small vid of it in action (not screencaptured by me): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx0DrLAWRTQ | 21:17 |
| arand | Hmm, does F3 not work at all in quantal? | 21:18 |
| MrChrisDruif | Not anymore with the recent update | 21:19 |
| MrChrisDruif | (It was also in the "View" dropdown menu | 21:19 |
| arand | Ah, it's intentional, upstream https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676858 | 21:23 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 676858 in general "Remove extra panes" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 21:23 |
| arand | "Use side-by-side view in gnome-shell instead" "more discoverable and common in all pllications" | 21:24 |
| arand | Seems to be the argument, which is fair enough I guess, does Unity have similar side-split-snapping though? | 21:25 |
| MrChrisDruif | arand; yup, afaik. But I only use gnome-shell | 21:27 |
| MrChrisDruif | arand; if you are on quantal in unity, you could try [Super]+[arrow right] or left | 21:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | It should "toss" the current window to the selected side | 21:32 |
| arand | Ah no, I'm on Debian, on gnome-shell :) | 21:32 |
| MrChrisDruif | Ghehe ^_^ | 21:33 |
| MrChrisDruif | Sid? | 21:33 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well, then Super+arrow should work for you as well ;-) | 21:36 |
| MrChrisDruif | (Arrow up for maximising) | 21:36 |
| arand | Yeah (need to start using those more). | 21:39 |
| MrChrisDruif | Ghehe, yeah stop using Alt+F10 ;-) | 21:40 |
| MrChrisDruif | Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down for switching workspaces | 21:40 |
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