[10:11] <ebel> hmm, we haven't had an irc meeting in a while. we should probably have another one shortly (see email)
[10:53] <tdr112> email saw +1
[10:53] <czajkowski> ello
[10:55] <tdr112> hey czajkowski
[10:55] <czajkowski> hows folks
[10:58] <puffisocks> y0 czajkowski
[11:13] <ebel> yo
[12:29] <automaciej> does anyone have experience with precise-based netbooks? I've got a eeepc with a 4GB hard drive. I installed lubuntu-desktop, and it left me with 180MB of free space on disk,lol.
[12:30] <automaciej> the needs are: connect to a wifi network, fire up a web browser and play a youtube video (html5 is enough, no flashplayer needed)
[12:31] <automaciej> I tried to fiddle with installing fluxbox and network-manager by hand, but it was generally unsuccessful. I didn't know what the right mix of packages is.
[12:31] <automaciej> networkmanager cli din't want to work, and the sound wouldn't work.
[12:32] <czajkowski> automaciej: hmm no chance of increasing the hd?
[12:33] <automaciej> hm. potentially yes, if that's the easiest option.
[12:33] <automaciej> I was kind of hoping for a known minimal set of packages.
[12:33] <automaciej> for example, I started with ubuntu-server which left about 2GB of disk free.
[12:33] <automaciej> I was thinking: How much more could a minimal desktop take? X.org is something like 60GB. A browser is another 60GB.
[12:34] <czajkowski> automaciej: have you askked in lubuntu channel
[12:34] <czajkowski> they may know how to tweak it
[12:34] <automaciej> no, this is the first channel I'm trying.
[12:34] <automaciej> I might try with passing --no-install-recommends
[12:34] <automaciej> I haven't tried that one yet.
[12:35] <czajkowski> ok
[12:36]  * automaciej joins the lubuntu channel
[12:37] <czajkowski> they may know more
[12:37] <czajkowski> automaciej: sorry I'm not more help
[12:38] <automaciej> redirection to #lubuntu is good help, thanks!
[12:52] <ebel> automaciej: odd that the default install takes ~ 3.8ishGB
[12:52] <ebel> maybe start removing packages. Remove openoffice/libreoffice?
[12:53] <puffisocks> automaciej: maybe try debian minimal? should be about 300mb or less
[12:53] <ebel> automaciej: The "dpigs" command line programme shows you what packages are using lots of disk space
[12:54] <ebel> Go through that and remove things?
[12:54] <ebel> You could try removing any music/video players?
[12:55] <slashbel> 'apt-get clean' may help
[14:19] <automaciej> ebel: libreoffice is not installed; the dpigs utility looks very useful, I'm removing some packages, let me see how much space I can free up.
[14:20] <automaciej> with the packages, it could be more of a long tail thing, it's the many small packages that amount for the most space taken
[14:22] <automaciej> ok, almost 800MB of free space now
[14:24] <czajkowski> yay
[14:24] <czajkowski> making progress
[14:27] <automaciej> 848MB. I declare it good enough for now.
[14:28] <automaciej> ebel++
[14:28] <czajkowski> brilliant
[18:38] <fivepoundnote> I can't open the Network Panel from the top panel, as advised in Help for connecting to wireless. I've used nm-tools and gone through troubleshooting. All was well on home wireless network, but couldn't select wireless networks in cafes, although nm-tools and diagnostics told me they were being detected. I just couldn't select by opening network panel as suggested. I (foolishly) removed
[18:38] <fivepoundnote> Network Manager, and tried to re-install. Now it is telling me it cannot access the internet to install. Surpise! Now no longer working on home wireless network. How will I tackle re-installing without a network connection? Accessing internet now through windows machine. Grrr...
[18:48] <fivepoundnote> download a .tar.gz and install? Is that a reasonable strategy?
[20:32] <automaciej> fivepoundnote: static configuration via /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:34] <automaciej> you'd have to look up how to configure wpa_supplicant.
[21:25] <fivepoundnote> thanks automaciej, I'll check that out.