[09:32]  * jibel starting with LTSP on AMD64
[09:32] <jibel> and wubi on amd64
[09:34] <jibel> and alternate on mac
[09:46] <jibel> wubi amd64 is ok
[09:47] <jibel> next wubi i386
[10:01] <jibel> can anyone test alternate on hradware with a USB keyboard and tell if it works
[10:51] <xnox> I'm reading the legacy test cases
[10:52] <xnox> In particular http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerRAID1
[10:52] <xnox> am I missing something, or are the the 16 and 21 duplicates, with 16 being the one that should stay
[10:52] <xnox> ???
[11:56] <jibel> d-i based images (server and alternate) are broken
[11:56] <jibel> bug 1017879
[11:56] <jibel> oh bot is back, nice
[13:10] <jibel> Finally they arrived \o/
[13:20] <jibel> although they'll be respun soon. kernel fix on the way
[13:39] <jibel> stgraber, the bot that updates bug statuses on the tracker seems to be on vacations
[13:41] <stgraber> jibel: ah right, sorry, forgot to bzr pull the fix on limequat (as it's still running under the db user)
[13:41] <xnox> jibel: the bot is simply depressed, no job satisfaction updating bug statuses.....
[13:42] <xnox> =)
[13:42] <stgraber> jibel: branch updated, so should be working again in the next cron run
[13:44] <jibel> xnox, that's why it's a bot, can you imagine my state of mind when I was doing it, copying/pasting bug statuses between LP and the tracker all day long during the release week  ;P
[13:44] <jibel> stgraber, thank you!
[13:44] <xnox> jibel: some amount of coffee have been spilled by me =)
[13:45] <stgraber> jibel: np. Looks like cron just started updating all the bugs, so you should be good in a couple of minutes
[14:13] <jibel> french keyboard on a live session is working, long time no see, yay \o/
[14:17] <joris_> jibel, are you a fulltime ubuntu tester? :)
[14:21] <jibel> joris_, only on release week, otherwise I'm automating testing to make my day easier on release week :)
[14:23] <joris_> automated testing of what exactly? installation, desktop? what tools do you use?
[14:29] <jibel> joris_, installation, upgrades and package testing https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/
[14:39] <joris_> jibel, jenkins is automated building right? how does help with installation and upgrades? is that also done automated?
[15:03] <jibel> joris_, we use jenkins as a scheduler and report the results. External tools are developed to do the actual tests.
[15:03] <jibel> stgraber, there is no netboot on the tracker
[15:03] <jibel> does it need to be added manually ?
[15:07] <stgraber> jibel: oops, no, I just need to fix the script that adds it :)
[15:55] <jibel> balloons, desktop images need a test case for bug 1017991
[15:55] <balloons> jibel, I was JUST looking at that
[15:56] <balloons> yes, your right we're missing the "check disk" testcase
[15:56] <jibel> balloons, actually all the items from the boot menu should be covered
[15:56] <balloons> we should have a testcase that explores that whole menu
[15:56] <balloons> lol ^^
[15:57] <balloons> are you still getting scrollbars in your slideshow jibel?
[15:58] <jibel> balloons, no, I haven't seen them for a while
[15:58] <jibel> or I'm just hypnotized by the slideshow and don't see the scrollbars anymore
[15:58] <balloons> They come and go for me
[15:59] <balloons> but lol, I feel like I'm crazy sometimes too
[15:59] <balloons> I've seen them appear only at the beginning, and after a few minutes disappear
[15:59] <jibel> maybe randombars is a new super secret type of widget
[15:59] <balloons> I think I was trying to debug this once.. see what package install was causing the change
[16:01] <balloons> we seem to be missing the upgrades testcases btw
[16:02] <balloons> err builds I should say
[16:16] <jibel> jamespage, should we adjust the size wrt u-s-virtual-minimal tests or let it fail ? currently the test fails with 665748kB on 64bit and 616312Kb on 32bit
[16:17] <jamespage> jibel, yes - the installed kernel size is now resolved so lets bump the thresholds
[16:17] <jamespage> its less than ideal but....
[16:17] <jamespage> things appear to have grown over time...
[16:17] <jibel> jamespage, how much do you think is right ?
[16:46] <balloons> installs seem to be taking a bit :-(
[16:53] <balloons> meh.. the installer is just locked it seems.. let me see if it happens again
[16:58] <jibel> balloons, I get the scrollbars systematically when doing an oem installation
[16:58] <jibel> during the end user configuration
[16:58] <balloons> jibel, ohh really?
[16:59] <balloons> Interesting.. did you have any troubles getting the oem install to finish?
[16:59] <balloons> Mine hung for 10 mins on installing the kernel
[17:01] <jibel> balloons, no hang here.
[17:01] <balloons> I'm going to pull the logs once it finishes
[17:02] <joris_> that's what she said
[17:02] <stgraber> jibel: I've always seen the scrollbars for the oem install too, though not for standard installs (in Quantal that's).
[17:03] <balloons> hmm.. now it's stuck trying to restart
[17:03] <balloons> the oem install doesn't like me
[17:03] <jibel> balloons, is it on hardware ?
[17:04] <balloons> jibel, no, sadly..
[17:05] <jibel> balloons, which VM ? I tried kvm, vbox and vmware. They all work fine
[17:05] <balloons> vbox
[17:05] <balloons> I tend to use vbox + testdrive
[17:06] <balloons> weird, errors on boot now
[17:06] <balloons> err, well, after startup :-_
[17:13]  * jibel waves good night and hopes alternate and server will be published when he wakes up tomorrow morning
[17:14]  * balloons waves
[17:18] <Daviey> jfunk: it will :)
[17:18] <jfunk> Daviey?
[17:19] <Daviey> err, jibel
[17:19] <Daviey> sorry jfunk
[17:19] <jfunk> np
[17:46] <balloons> Daviey, jibel waved gnight
[19:05] <phillw> balloons: are the RC's for A2 at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/222/builds ?
[19:05] <balloons> phillw, indeed
[20:21] <AlanBell> balloons: have I reported bug #1016969 in the right place?
[20:22] <balloons> AlanBell, let's have a look
[20:23] <balloons> I didn't think orca worked in vbox.. I had trouble getting it to install properly
[20:23] <AlanBell> works perfectly
[20:23] <AlanBell> that is how most of our blind users test it
[20:23] <balloons> I did try high contrast mode today and found a little snafu :-)
[20:23] <balloons> it's in the right place tho
[20:23] <balloons> :-)
[20:23] <AlanBell> anyhow, not an orca or a11y bug, audio is pointing at devices that don't work
[20:24] <balloons> did you report the result on the tracker?
[20:24] <balloons> hmm.. must not have, I don't see the tracker bot on your bug
[20:25] <balloons> well, it's alpha 2 time as you know.. i'll give it a whirl on today's images. If it doesn't work, we'll need to fix, or release note it
[20:25] <AlanBell> I don't know how to do that, I go here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ and click report a bug, but that is to report a bug about the tracker or something
[20:25] <balloons> ahh, yes that's to report a bug against the website itself
[20:25] <balloons> never thought about the confusion that might cause
[20:26] <balloons> probably should "file a bug" for that to update the link so it doesn't confuse
[20:26] <balloons> anyways, you add your results on the tracker itself
[20:26] <AlanBell> ah, ok, so I file a bug on launchpad then link it on the tracker
[20:26] <balloons> so for instance, we're doing the alpha 2 testing right now, which is it's own milestone
[20:27] <balloons> AlanBell, yes.. you pick an iso from the tracker, run one of the testcases, and report your results. if you find a bug, you report it on launchpad and then add the bug number to your pass or fail report
[20:27] <balloons> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/222/builds/17814/testcases
[20:27] <balloons> that's the amd64 desktop build
[20:27] <AlanBell> url to hardware profile . . . what does that mean?
[20:27] <balloons> and you can see the 'Install (Screen Reader)' testcase
[20:28] <balloons> you can ignore it for the time being
[20:28] <AlanBell> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/222/builds/17814/testcases/990/results/33302
[20:28] <balloons> it's a WIP. It's intended to link to a description of your hardware, so we can know info about your machine if needbe
[20:29] <balloons> :-)
[20:29] <balloons> perfect
[20:29] <AlanBell> ok, would be nice to have "virtualbox/KVM/VMware" as easy options to select there
[20:29] <balloons> not a bad idea
[20:29] <balloons> AlanBell, btw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1017207
[20:56] <phillw1> balloons: is the release target for A2 still 28th?
[21:08] <stgraber> yes
[21:25] <phillw1> yikes!
[21:36] <balloons> phillwl, lol